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Note that i am antichristian because i am opposed to Christianity! I am not your Antichrist that have 666 or do false miracles!

What is this one saying, anyone opposing Christianity is opposing Christ. Therefore you’re Antichrist. Who knows, you might even be the one anointed by satan in the time of great tribulation to give the 666. I mean, at this rate.

Ken4Christ:


But the same word kurios is where the word Lord is translated from in the verse below. So, you just help to confirm that Jesus and God are one.

Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, which was, and is, and is to come.

Was Jesus ever mentioned in revelations?
Seems you guys will never accept the truth even when it's being thrown at you like this!

More expositions on Kurios translated as Lord!

Kurios as Master
A disciple is not above the teacher, nor a slave above the master [kurios] (Matthew 10:24).

Kurios as Husband
Thus Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him master [kurios] (1 Peter 3:6).

Kurios as gods
Indeed, even though there may be so-called gods [kurios] in heaven or on earth-as in fact there are many gods and many lords (1 Corinthians 8:5).

Do you think the name of God will ever be used for an Idol at any point in time?

madegreatbygrace:
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What is this one saying, anyone opposing Christianity is opposing Christ. Therefore you’re Antichrist. Who knows, you might even be the one anointed by satan in the time of great tribulation to give the 666. I mean, at this rate.

So by this you mean Jesus created Christianity before he left?
Okay show me the verse where Jesus created Christianity in the Bible as a religion for you?

madegreatbygrace:
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What is this one saying, anyone opposing Christianity is opposing Christ. Therefore you’re Antichrist. Who knows, you might even be the one anointed by satan in the time of great tribulation to give the 666. I mean, at this rate.

You guys have very poor knowledge of your own good book. It's funny how antiChristian has more grasp of the Bible.

1john 4:3
...and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
But antiChristian never said biblical Christ didn't come in flesh. How does Antichrist concern him?

What does it mean to come in the flesh?

You certainly have a very shallow understanding of the Bible

It’s easy to see because you do read on the surface

Explain to us what it means or you want me to break it down for you

The fact is, he doesn’t believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh and so he’s an Antichrist

Note that i am antichristian because i am opposed to Christianity! I am not your Antichrist that have 666 or do false miracles!

If you think this guy that goes by the moniker antichristian has a better grasp of the Bible, then you must have your head examined.

The Bible clearly defines an Antichrist in 1 John 4:3.

He doesn’t believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh so he’s an Antichrist.


Due to his poor knowledge of the Bible, and from what he stated above, he doesn’t seem to know the difference between an Antichrist and the man of sin referred to in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

madegreatbygrace:
What does it mean to come in the flesh?

You certainly have a very shallow understanding of the Bible

It’s easy to see because you do read on the surface

Explain to us what it means or you want me to break it down for you

The fact is, he doesn’t believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh and so he’s an Antichrist

Lol continue deceiving yourself. You know you have been found wanting. A typical Muslim who believes Jesus is a prophet should also believe he came in flesh. Are prophets that immortal? Lol...
My point is, your argument that because he is antiChristian makes him Antichrist, holds no water.

You’ve been found wanting instead.

If you can’t explain what it means to come in the flesh.

Obviously, you took that text literally.

It has a deeper meaning and this was the mind of John when he wrote that epistle.

AntiChristian:

Moses never mentioned Jesus's name so how and where did he write about Jesus

Moses wasn't the only person that prophesied about Christ. Isaiah, David, Malachi and others prophesied his place of birth, what he would do, his death etc
Moses and other prophets didn't mention any name but they gave relevant description of him via prophecy.

Jesus is unique as well as any other Prophets. Is that not why God appoints them?

Every prophet in the Bible played different roles. Jesus specific mission was to take the sin of people away and provide salvation for all.

Jesus never claimed he had any preexistence in the Bible.

He did. Many times.

God has the power to create whatever he wills from even nothing! By this your analogy then Adam should have been superior to Jesus since he even needs no mother to be born!

Adam was the first man the true Allah, Jehovah created. Through Adam everyone of us got our lifes. God didn't need to create us individually from dust/clay again.
How Jesus would be born and place of birth were already prophesied by the prophets.

madegreatbygrace:
You’ve been found wanting instead.

If you can’t explain what it means to come in the flesh.

Obviously, you took that text literally.

It has a deeper meaning and this was the mind of John when he wrote that epistle.

I had already told you that if Muslims believe that biblical Jesus is a prophet, then they should believe he came in flesh, because prophets are visible and can be touched.

I was expecting you to twist the English language, but you are so scared to tell me what it meant by coming in flesh, since I have made my point ; being antiChristian isn't Antichrist

AntiChristian:

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The topic is about God particular "Elohim" being used for Humans, Angels, Satan, gods and God. It also includes how the Hausa Bible uses Allah which the Christians reject as their God

Well, the topic says "saying Jesus is a prophet is not blasphemy".

The word "god" can simply be used to refer to anything that's mighty or considered mighty.

And the history you are introducing has no relevance to the topic. Allah was known in Arabia as other tribes has a name for the supreme being not represented by an Idol. Have you ever heard of an Idol called Oluwa in Yoruba culture

Interesting!

Before God revealed himself to Abraham, people were worshipping different gods made with stones, wood and metals. They have no knowledge of the true god, the creator of the universe.
For example, the Yorubas believe that Eledumare is the supreme god (ọlọrun) while gods like Sango (god of thunder), Ogun (god of iron), eesu, orunmila and other several gods could lead them to him.
Those above mentioned gods including eledumare believed to be the supreme god are obviously demons. False gods. Their believe doesn't matter.
Your indeed right that every tribes has thier own beliefs and version of god and Arabia is not an exception. They worship different gods and they believe "Allah" which means "the-god" is the supreme god.

or Allah in Hausa?

No Allah is Arabic. God in Hausa is ubangiji or something.

Similarly many traditionalists believe in the existence of God yet they worship the gods as a means to God.

The true GOD is JEHOVAH and he revealed himself to Abraham and made covenant with him.
Jehovah God brought a nation out of Abraham. He was only God to the people of Israel alone. He gave them his laws and commandments.

cornelboy:



Well, the topic says "saying Jesus is a prophet is not blasphemy".

The word "god" can simply be used to refer to anything that's mighty or considered mighty.

Using Elohim for Yahweh, Angel, gods, Satan and even humans is a big mistake from the Bible.

Interesting!

Before God revealed himself to Abraham, people were worshipping different gods made with stones, wood and metals. They have no knowledge of the true god, the creator of the universe.
For example, the Yorubas believe that Eledumare is the supreme god (ọlọrun) while gods like Sango (god of thunder), Ogun (god of iron), eesu, orunmila and other several gods could lead them to him.
Those above mentioned gods including eledumare believed to be the supreme god are obviously demons. False gods. Their believe doesn't matter.
Your indeed right that every tribes has thier own beliefs and version of god and Arabia is not an exception. They worship different gods and they believe "Allah" which means "the-god" is the supreme god.

Allah was never known as "the god" in Arabia. The god is Al-Illah not Allah.

No Allah is Arabic. God in Hausa is ubangiji or something.

Ubangiji is related ti Hausa idols hence Muslims seldom use it. Allah is God in Hausa and Arabic. And this is used in the Arabic and Hausa Bibles.

The true GOD is JEHOVAH and he revealed himself to Abraham and made covenant with him.
Jehovah God brought a nation out of Abraham. He was only God to the people of Israel alone. He gave them his laws and commandments.

Jehovah is the creation of someone centuries ago. The correct name is YHWH. I don't know how this became Jehovah.

Can you explain how the name came about from being unpronounced to becoming Jehovah?

AntiChristian:

Using Elohim for Yahweh, Angel, gods, Satan and even humans is a big mistake from the Bible.

To you it's a mistake.
"God" (English)/ "Elohim" (Hebrew) is not the personal name of Jehovah. It's a title.

Before the true God Yahweh revealed himself to Abraham, every nation had their own god.
For example when the children of Israel were in Egypt in bondage, the Egyptians had different idols they worshiped as God.
At that time throughout the entire universe only the descendants of Abraham know the true God.

Allah was never known as "the god" in Arabia. The god is Al-Illah not Allah.

What's the meaning of Allah and Al-illah in English?

Ubangiji is related ti Hausa idols hence Muslims seldom use it. Allah is God in Hausa and Arabic. And this is used in the Arabic and Hausa Bibles.

Elohim is God, Allah is God, ọlọrun is God, Theo (Greek) is God. This just language difference.

Jehovah is the creation of someone centuries ago. The correct name is YHWH. I don't know how this became Jehovah.
Can you explain how the name came about from being unpronounced to becoming Jehovah?

Transliteration.

cornelboy:



To you it's a mistake.
"God" (English)/ "Elohim" (Hebrew) is not the personal name of Jehovah. It's a title.

Before the true God Yahweh revealed himself to Abraham, every nation had their own god.
For example when the children of Israel were in Egypt in bondage, the Egyptians had different idols they worshiped as God.
At that time throughout the entire universe only the descendants of Abraham know the true God.

Oh! God's name was a title. God didn't reveal his name...? Of what sense does that make? So only Abraham and his descendants know the true God. How do they know him? So others before him know a false God? Of what importance is the name that was revealed?

What's the meaning of Allah and Al-illah in English?

Allah is Allah and some may translate it as God. Al-Illah does not exist in isolation as a translation. Illah can be God or deity.

Elohim is God, Allah is God, ọlọrun is God, Theo (Greek) is God. This just language difference.

Yahweh and Adonai are what then? And Adonee and Kurios!

Transliteration.

How does Jehovah become a transliteration of YHWH?

It was a creation of someone named Tyndale.

Broveens42:

You guys have very poor knowledge of your own good book. It's funny how antiChristian has more grasp of the Bible.
1john 4:3
...and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. But antiChristian never said biblical Christ didn't come in flesh. How does Antichrist concern him?

They are not CHRISTIANS but misinformed Churchgoers!

Through arguing with me often AntiChristian has learnt a lot on PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what Jesus stands for so common churchgoers can't stand him when it comes to critical thinking in line with what the man called Christ taught in the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:


They are not CHRISTIANS but misinformed Churchgoers!

Through arguing with me often AntiChristian has learnt a lot on PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what Jesus stands for so common churchgoers can't stand him when it comes to critical thinking in line with what the man called Christ taught in the Bible!

You just have to mention my moniker!
You are right! I learnt a little about the brand of Christian created by one Jesus in 1914.

I also learnt that you were ill-knowledged about Islam when you were a Muslim.

AntiChristian:

You just have to mention my moniker!
You are right! I learnt a little about the brand of Christian created by one Jesus in 1914.
I also learnt that you were ill-knowledged about Islam when you were a Muslim.

You may deny the fact but it's obvious you've learned a lot from me as you no longer argue blindly as you used to do when you first came to Nairaland but now raising points that even the churchgoers can't refute with the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:


They are not CHRISTIANS but misinformed Churchgoers!

Through arguing with me often AntiChristian has learnt a lot on PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what Jesus stands for so common churchgoers can't stand him when it comes to critical thinking in line with what the man called Christ taught in the Bible!

I think you are having identity crisis; bearing the name given to you by random people (Christian) while answering JW.

MaxInDHouse:


You may deny the fact but it's obvious you've learned a lot from me as you no longer argue blindly as you used to do when you first came to Nairaland but now raising points that even the churchgoers can't refute with the Bible!

So you are the only one i've been communicating with on Nairaland. When did you become my instructor?
I have been communicating with tens of people here of which you remain a microcosm!

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Oh! God's name was a title.

The word "God" is not a personal name for the true God. You should see yourself that it's just a title. Many things are called God all over the world even till date.

When God spoke with Moses, he asked his name and God said "YHWH".

God didn't reveal his name...? Of what sense does that make? So only Abraham and his descendants know the true God. How do they know him?

Even Abraham, before the true God revealed himself to him didn't know GOD. He worship idols as God together with his family.
People were just doing what pleased them.
Though some people before Abraham knew the true GOD but during the time of Abraham, nobody knew him. That was why God had to reveal himself to Abraham.

God revealed his name, YHWH to Moses when he asked.

So others before him know a false God? Of what importance is the name that was revealed?

Noah, Enoch and some others knew GOD.

Of what important is your own name to you?

How does Jehovah become a transliteration of YHWH?
It was a creation of someone named Tyndale.

Did you know that that there's no letter j in the ancient Hebrew alphabet?
Actually Jesus was transliterated from Yehoshua just like Jehovah from Yahweh.
We have words like Jews, Jerusalem, Joshua etc. They were all transliterated.

Yahweh and Adonai are what then? And Adonee and Kurios!

Yahweh is the proper name of GOD. Adonai is Lord like rabb is Lord in Arabic.

When you see the word lord and God, it doesn't refer to a particular person.

Allah is Allah and some may translate it as God. Al-Illah does not exist in isolation as a translation. Illah can be God or deity.

Allah is Arabic. God is English.
I understand how Abdullah is translated to servant of Allah.
It's obvious that Allah could be translated as God. The right translation is even God.

So why did you complain that Arab Christians and Hausa Christians use Allah in their Bible?

You should that using Allah in their Bible as word for God doesn't mean they believe in the Muslim god.

Broveens42:

I think you are having identity crisis; bearing the name given to you by random people (Christian) while answering JW.

I love the highlighted!
So learn now that the given group name is not what our God intended calling us because our God doesn't want His true worshipers to be confused for misinformed Churchgoers that's why He began calling us by another group name in the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

AntiChristian:

So you are the only one i've been communicating with on Nairaland. When did you become my instructor?
I have been communicating with tens of people here of which you remain a microcosm!

I can see it in your arguments with them when you start quoting the same scriptures i often quote for you!

MaxInDHouse:


I love the highlighted!
So learn now that the given group name is not what our God intended calling us because our God doesn't want His true worshipers to be confused for misinformed Churchgoers that's why He began calling us by another group name in the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

Stop playing to the gallery.
When you say "they are not christians but misinformed church goers"
What do you actually mean?
Ok let's say some christians share an aspect of your teachings, who would be doing the correct thing?
The ones called christians as can be traced to Antioch or yours JW as revealed in 1931 as you said?

MaxInDHouse:


I can see it in your arguments with them when you start quoting the same scriptures i often quote for you!

Who dey read your scripture wey you dey quote?

Broveens42:

Stop playing to the gallery.
When you say "they are not christians but misinformed church goers"
What do you actually mean?
Ok let's say some christians share an aspect of your teachings, who would be doing the correct thing?
The ones called christians as can be traced to Antioch or yours JW as revealed in 1931 as you said?

You can only grasp these things when you're calm, aggressive approach will not let you understand anything in this matter.

Isaiah's prophecy talks about a time when pure worship will be restored but Satan's agents will adopt a name given to God's faithful servants by observers, but since Satan's agents have adopted the name it will then become a curse to the earth in general then the true God will begin calling His own true worshipers by another group name after separating them from among Satan's agents!

Now let's take it one by one:

Jesus came to establish pure worship! Matthew 28:18-20
Satan's agents overshadowed the pioneers of pure worship after the killing of faithful servants of God! Matthew 13:25
God's Holy Spirit began a separation work towards the endtime when God is about to destroy all evildoers! Matthew 13:30 compare to Revelations 18:4
But since the fine WORKS of the pioneers of pure worship has been heard both near and far Satan's agents will hide under their adopted name to perpetrate evil, that's why most people often blame religion for killings of innocent people through the dark ages when false religions were going about claiming crusaders with Cross forcing their religion on people everywhere they go.
That's what the Arabs noticed that led to their use of force to propagate their own religion as well claiming they're also related to Christ who taught his own followers never to force people in believing what he taught! Matthew 26:52

All these happened through the dark ages until 1931 after Jesus has returned in 1914 to restructure his team in preaching and teaching towards the destruction of this system of things. Jesus couldn't find any group practicing what he laid down in the first century again as Satan has done a perfect job in derailing all the religions claiming Christians! Luke 18:8
So the only group available was a team called International Bible Students Association who are willing to make amendments in everything they learned from the Catholic Church as they could sense that something is wrong somewhere but they can't just figure it out on their own.
So when Jesus noticed this group he began using the Holy Spirit to direct them so that they started making amendments gradually, all other religions claiming denominations in Christendom were mocking the Bible students but they kept working on the correction.
By the year 1931 they have made enough change that pleased the true God so He began calling them by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Today you and i can testify that only this group stood out in practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught!

AntiChristian:

Who dey read your scripture wey you dey quote?

No wahala keep doing what you're doing!

MaxInDHouse:


You can only grasp these things when you're calm, aggressive approach will not let you understand anything in this matter.

Isaiah's prophecy talks about a time when pure worship will be restored but Satan's agents will adopt a name given to God's faithful servants by observers, but since Satan's agents have adopted the name it will then become a curse to the earth in general then the true God will begin calling His own true worshipers by another group name after separating them from among Satan's agents!

Now let's take it one by one:

Jesus came to establish pure worship! Matthew 28:18-20
Satan's agents overshadowed the pioneers of pure worship after the killing of faithful servants of God! Matthew 13:25
God's Holy Spirit began a separation work towards the endtime when God is about to destroy all evildoers! Matthew 13:30 compare to Revelations 18:4
But since the fine WORKS of the pioneers of pure worship has been heard both near and far Satan's agents will hide under their adopted name to perpetrate evil, that's why most people often blame religion for killings of innocent people through the dark ages when false religions were going about claiming crusaders with Cross forcing their religion on people everywhere they go.
That's what the Arabs noticed that led to their use of force to propagate their own religion as well claiming they're also related to Christ who taught his own followers never to force people in believing what he taught! Matthew 26:52

All these happened through the dark ages until 1931 after Jesus has returned in 1914 to restructure his team in preaching and teaching towards the destruction of this system of things. Jesus couldn't find any group practicing what he laid down in the first century again as Satan has done a perfect job in derailing all the religions claiming Christians! Luke 18:8
So the only group available was a team called International Bible Students Association who are willing to make amendments in everything they learned from the Catholic Church as they could sense that something is wrong somewhere but they can't just figure it out on their own.
So when Jesus noticed this group he began using the Holy Spirit to direct them so that they started making amendments gradually, all other religions claiming denominations in Christendom were mocking the Bible students but they kept working on the correction.
By the year 1931 they have made enough change that pleased the true God so He began calling them by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Today you and i can testify that only this group stood out in practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught!

Lol. You still didn't answer my question. Instead, you settled for common biblical events juxtaposed with the founding of other religious groups. For instance; Peter was eating with the gentiles but separated from them when people sent by James came, because he was afraid of those in support of circumcision. So biblical Paul says he rebuked Peter cus he was wrong. So let's assume Peter was wrong while Paul was right; between Paul's group and jw, who do you think is doing the right thing, Since your previous lines seem to differentiate Christianity from uninformed church goers and lately trying to differentiate Christianity from Jw on your second thought?

Broveens42:

Lol. You still didn't answer my question. Instead, you settled for common biblical events juxtaposed with the founding of other religious grops. For instance; Peter was eating with the gentiles but separated from them when people sent by James came, because he was afraid of those in support of circumcision. So biblical Paul says he rebuked Peter cus he was wrong. So let's assume Peter was wrong while Paul was right; between Paul's group and jw, who do you think is doing the right thing, Since your previous line seem to differentiate Christianity from uninformed church goers and lately trying to differentiate Christianity from Jw on your second thought?

Note that Peter was with Jesus when he said:
But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. John 14:26

So Peter could quickly sense that what Paul said there is not just Paul but the Holy Spirit {Matthew 16:17} Jesus promised that's going to bring back what he taught them that's actively operating on Paul at that point in time!

The JWs themselves has been misguided along with other religions all claiming denominations in Christendom but by the time Jesus arrived in 1914 something strange happened among the Bible students back then because lots of things they formerly believed were changed within just few years!
For your information JWs do celebrate Christmas before and after 1914 but gradually all such pagan traditions were dropped one by one until most of those who couldn't cope left the organization.

So had it been Peter tried to argue with Paul that faithful day he could have been forgotten as part of the Christians that endured all the things Jesus promised they will encounter later! Matthew 24:13

MaxInDHouse:


Note that Peter was with Jesus when he said:
But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. John 14:26

So Peter could quickly sense that what Paul said there is not just Paul but the Holy Spirit {Matthew 16:17} Jesus promised that's going to bring back what he taught them that's actively operating on Paul at that point in time!

The JWs themselves has been misguided along with other religions all claiming denominations in Christendom but by the time Jesus arrived in 1914 something strange happened among the Bible students back then because lots of things they formerly believed were changed within just few years!
For your information JWs do celebrate Christmas before and after 1914 but gradually all such pagan traditions were dropped one by one until most of those who couldn't cope left the organization.

So had it been Peter tried to argue with Paul that faithful day he could have been forgotten as part of the Christians that endured all the things Jesus promised they will encounter later! Matthew 24:13

There is no difference between you and politicians. Why can't you just answer my questions...
Check the question mark in my submission and answer directly.

Broveens42:

There is no difference between you and politicians. Why can't you just answer my questions...
Check the question mark in my submission and answer directly.

Well according to Jesus true Christians are more than politicians that's why we are campaigning for another Government: God's government (Kingdom) Matthew 24:14

Well you may simplify your question and try to be more specific on what you want to know!

Your believe about anyone within your religion should be limited to the scope of your religion . Its an ill act to carry your believe in your religion and substitute it i. another faith you only know the letters about to prove a point .. keep that point to yourself and see at the end of time if it will save you... as you name implies keep hating and countering christ and christians , you will still believe Jesus as the Lord but I hope by that time it wont be too late.

AntiChristian:
I read a post where Rev. Yinka Yusuf claimed President Muhammad Buhari blasphemed by calling Jesus a Prophet. He continued in the video that Jesus is too big to be a Prophet, Jesus never called himself a Prophet, The Jews called him a Prophet, etc. https://www.nairaland.com/7130683/blasphemy-rev-yinka-yusuf-faults

But mind you, Jesus didn't call himself God anywhere in the Bible. The fact that Jesus worshiped God many times in the Bible buttresses this point.

More so, Muslims believe Jesus to be a Prophet according to the Islamic Books. So how is that blasphemy?

The Reverend also said in the video " How can Jesus be a Prophet? A Prophet is a messenger. Who would he be a messenger to?"

But on the contrary we found the verses below:

1. Jesus said, "I was sent only to the people of Israel! Matthew 15:24

2.Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

3. “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” Matthew 24:36

4. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32

This is a definite proof that the Final Hour is unknown to any but God, thus Jesus’ knowledge is imperfect like all other men; God Alone is All-Knowing, Omniscient.

5. “And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, ‘O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt.’ “ Matthew 26:39

We note here that the person speaking is unaware of God’s Will and realizes the fact that he is a servant of God. He (God) Alone can cause the change.

6And finally the Prophecy of Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 where Yahweh says:
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

If Jesus fulfilled this Prophecy how is Jesus not a Prophet?
So what was the Reverend saying?

Beyhiodie:
Your believe about anyone within your religion should be limited to the scope of your religion . Its an ill act to carry your believe in your religion and substitute it i. another faith you only know the letters about to prove a point .. keep that point to yourself and see at the end of time if it will save you... as you name implies keep hating and countering christ and christians , you will still believe Jesus as the Lord but I hope by that time it wont be too late.

I don't hate anyone. I just share knowledge as far as i know. And about keeping that point to myself, do Christians keep their points to themselves? No! So lets continue!