martinosi:
The Tithe is Not Only Old Testament it Belongs to the Lord for the Widow, Fatherless, Stranger !!!

Why is it that we refuse to read Gods word in Fullness

The Tithe and Offering is what Should be Layed up in store and Given to the Levites
for them to distribute to the

1 - The Widow (So that the community is healthy)

2 - The Fatherless (So that the Society is Safe and the orphans don't turn into vagabonds and criminals in society)

3 - The Stranger i.e Immigrants amongst us (So that they the strangers does not turn to vice, scams and illegal schemes to survive economically)

4 - The Levite (Government Workers in Israel) (So that they don't turn to bribes and graft as they had no land as inheritance in Israel)


Deuteronomy 26:12
“When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year—the year of tithing—and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled,

Deuteronomy 26:13
then you shall say before the Lord your God: ‘I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them.


The Church in Acts 2:43-45 & Acts 4:31-33 the Church at Jerusalem practiced the Community Tithe

Acts 2:43-45
New King James Version
43 Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. 44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and [a]sold their possessions and goods, and divided[b] them among all, as anyone had need.

Acts 4:31-33
New King James Version
32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all.

So this also applies to local churches, this is WHO THE tithe is Primarily for

The Widows (Single Mothers Included)

The Fatherless (Boys and Girls without a Male Parent in the House)

The Strangers (i.e migrants due to conflict, war, persecution, economic hardship etc)

The Levites or Pastors (Who should be on a fixed Salary plus free-will offering of People in the Church or they can work/do business part times as Paul and Timothy did)
See - 1 Corinthians 4:11-13


So the Tithe is not for Preachers to buy 3 Million Dollar Homes etc if the Preacher has his own business then he can do whatever he pleases with his month but the tithe belongs to the 4 main groups to support them, the Fourth being the Full time minister
due to the volume of the church work if its soo large that he has to focus on it 100%.

immortalcrown:
What percentage of it do Nigerian pastors give widows, orphans and strangers?

obyrich:
Try again. You could not proof your claim that Tithe is not old testament. You mixed up freewill donation in the New testament with Tithe giving in the old testament.

martinosi:


If a Church in Nigeria Collects N25 Million Naira in tithe every Sunday which is N100 Million every Month, which is N300 Million every 3 Months then they should have a programmer which has The Widows, The Fatherless and Strangers (Migrants or Non Natives)
in that Church and Area that are taken care of in terms of Rent, Food Provision, Housing Start up small business, School Fee's etc..

THIS IS WHAT THE TITHE IS FOR AND WHEN ITS NOT USED FOR ITS CORE PURPOSE THEN THE CHURCH IS OPERATING UNDER A CURSE AS THE LORD CANNOT BLESS A CHURCH THAT COLLECTS N300 Million Naira tithe every 3 months and it is being spent on only the Church Pastors-Ministers and for their Family and relatives and friends..

THATS WHY THEIR IS SO MUCH SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA BECUASE THE BILLIONS BEING COLLECTED
EVERY 3 MONTHS AS TITHE IN NIGERIA IN ALL THESE PENTICOSTAL CHURCHES IS BEING USED FOR THE WRONG PURPOSE...!!!

immortalcrown:
What percentage of it do Nigerian pastors give widows, orphans and strangers?

martinosi:


Read your Scripture well ....it says exactly in Deuteronomy who the Tithe is for below

Deuteronomy 26:12
“When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year—the year of tithing—and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled,

Deuteronomy 26:13
then you shall say before the Lord your God: ‘I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them.

martinosi:
To be honest maybe only 3% and maybe none at all to be honest..so church do PR Campaigns and distribute rich to widows and bring the TV Camera's to film it..WHICH IS 100% WRONG ACCORDING TO WHAT JESUS SAID IN MATTHEWS CHAPTER 6...

immortalcrown:
This is why the Tithe should go directly to those whom it is meant for. Stop paying tithes through pastors. Give directly to the widows, orphans and strangers around you.

43Ronin:
The only problem is that levites are not pastors & christianity is not a religion but spiritualism. 1st, 2nd & 3rd century Christians lived like Jesus and the apostles. They all shared what they had, meditated upon the teachings of Jesus and were in complete mastery of the spirit. Things like collecting tithe meant nothing to them cos they were already in gnosis

obyrich:
Is Deutronomy in the new testament?

martinosi:


They Practised tithing in the community as Jesus did that and said the poor you will always have with you...

See scripture below to see their socio-economic practice....

Acts 2:43-45
New King James Version
43 Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. 44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and [a]sold their possessions and gooos, and divided[b] them among all, as anyone had need.

Acts 4:31-33
New King James Version
32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all.

43Ronin:


Nothing like tithing is mentioned there. What was present was communalism. Where everyone one in their christian community owned nothing cos everything belonged to everyone. Meaning both pastor, evangelist, faithful all brought waht they had to support each other.
Notice how the scripture says in Acts 2:44-45 44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and [a]sold their possessions and gooos, and divided[b] them among all, as anyone had need. not that they sold and gave to the apostles. Stop collecting tithes oo. Stop putting yourself under the law of Israel cos you are a gentile abd is one with God through christ, nothing else

martinosi:
The Tithe is Not Only Old Testament it Belongs to the Lord for the Widow, Fatherless, Stranger !!!
Why is it that we refuse to read Gods word in Fullness

The Tithe and Offering is what Should be Layed up in store and Given to the Levites
for them to distribute to the

1 - The Widow (So that the community is healthy)
2 - The Fatherless (So that the Society is Safe and the orphans don't turn into vagabonds and criminals in society)
3 - The Stranger i.e Immigrants amongst us (So that they the strangers does not turn to vice, scams and illegal schemes to survive economically)

4 - The Levite (Government Workers in Israel) (So that they don't turn to bribes and graft as they had no land as inheritance in Israel)


Deuteronomy 26:12
“When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year—the year of tithing—and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled,

Deuteronomy 26:13
then you shall say before the Lord your God: ‘I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them.

martinosi:
Abraham Tithed to in Genesis 14 .....so its not only for the Nation of Israel....

martinosi:
Abraham Tithed to in Genesis 14 .....so its not only for the Nation of Israel....

24 Jesus and his followers went to Capernaum. There the men who collect the two-drachma Temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Does your teacher pay the Temple tax?”
25 Peter answered, “Yes, he does.”
Peter went into the house where Jesus was. Before Peter could speak, Jesus said to him, “The kings on the earth get different kinds of taxes from people. But who are those who pay the taxes? Are they the king’s children? Or do other people pay the taxes? What do you think?”
26 Peter answered, “The other people pay the taxes.” Jesus said, “Then the children of the king don’t have to pay taxes.
27 But we don’t want to upset these tax collectors. So do this: Go to the lake and fish. After you catch the first fish, open its mouth. Inside its mouth, you will find a four-drachma coin. Take that coin and give it to the tax collectors. That will pay the tax for you and me.” - Matthew 17 vs 24 - 27

immortalcrown:
What percentage of it do Nigerian pastors give widows, orphans and strangers? Stop paying your tithes to the pastors. Give the tithes directly to widows, orphans and strangers around you.