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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:10pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:Your last question about why the IRS did not "tax" the first 1M? Bro, I ignored it because it showed you still did not understand what was being discussed. Maybe this will help your recollection. Edit: look at the citation. Compare it to what I showed you. 7 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:24pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:Just for shits and giggles. All that pre 2015 claptrap about inflation is voodoo stuff. Of course, with global oil prices serendipitously being at an all time high pre 2015, any govt in power at the time will look good (in terms of inflationary indices) since they are intertwined. When the inflation jumped in Buhari's first term can you remind us what happened to those oil prices? From your Premium Times article, the inflation contracted at certain points again under Buhari. Do you see how that coincided with oil prices going up again in line with production? GEJ could have partied all through 2012-2014 and the inflation would have still been better than whatever it was post 2015. Had nothing to do with him. My point. 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 3:51pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Abi all families of people that died from bomb blasts and BH attacks during GEJ time will remember him fondly. Android17: 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 3:53pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17:Sanusi was fired because PWC showed him to be a dangerous liar. https://guardian.ng/lead-story/nnpc-accuses-sanusi-of-mixing-up-figures-on-alleged-missing-20b/ |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 3:57pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Did Sanusi lie that money was missing? Theflint1: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:59pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: ![]() ![]() ![]() You have to go to Anambra to get accurate translation. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by homesteady(m): 4:00pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17: Aren’t your screenshots proving me correct? 1st screenshot- Nature of Suit - Drug related seizure of property. 2nd screenshot- The money is forfeited pursuant to 21 USC(a)(6) and 18 USC 981. Here is what 21 USC(a)(6) states - All moneys, negotiable instruments, securities, or other things of value furnished or intended to be furnished by any person in exchange for a controlled substance or listed chemical in violation of this subchapter, all proceeds traceable to such an exchange, and all moneys, negotiable instruments, and securities used or intended to be used to facilitate any violation of this subchapter. It is written there in black and white and also blue. So where does the tax evasion come into place? Or is there something that I’m not seeing?? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:00pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17:fact check: oil prices are currently at the highest in the past 10 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/2516/wti-crude-oil-prices-10-year-daily-chart |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:02pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
chrisooblog:or Chibok or Baga. People forget so soon. 8 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:03pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Theflint1:What should NNPCs auditor say? Okay, the issue is simple: PwC should publish the audit so that all of us can pore over it. hahaha. Since 2015, they refused to do so. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:05pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
chrisooblog:If you read the article on the link I posted you won't be asking this question. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:10pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17:Lol... you're lying again. PWC are not the auditors of NNPC, they were contracted by the Senate investigate the accusations by Sanusi and after their audit, Sanusi was proven to be a liar. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:11pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
raumdeuter:Was it a 50k or a 50m strong army ![]() ![]() ![]() Yea, agree with this position, even the US at some point had to change their approach to Afghanistan when they realized that pumping men and guns wasn't working. There's place for diplomacy and non-combative strategies in warfare. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:13pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:I am kind of being letdown. Let me ask a simple question. If ALL monies should be forfeited why did BAT keep 1M USD? This is exactly the argument you and Larride started with. I showed you provisions from the US Code that were all cited in the court paper. I want to keep it short and simple. Can't rehash the same arguments. If in doubt, provide a verdict stating that BAT is guilty of money laundering from narcotics. Thanks. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 4:20pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Like this one abi ![]() https://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2015/04/27/pwc-audit-confirms-sanusis-allegation-nnpc-deducted-18-53bn-oil-revenue/ Theflint1: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:22pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Theflint1:So the Auditor General of Nigeria is part of the senate? 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by homesteady(m): 4:28pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17: Okay. It was high price of oil that made inflation low and relatively stable abi? Oya, oil price has hit $123 this year. The highest it ever got to under Jonathan was $113. Yet inflation is still high and increasing. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:30pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
chrisooblog:You know if you rearrange words you can deceive the unsuspecting. Sanusi said they could not account for ~$20B. PwC report said yea between 2012-2013 around $18.5B was unaccounted for but in reality govt said they redistributed it to the states so only about $1.5B is truly missing. A report that was shoddily done and that even they accept is not reliable. ![]() I had to highlight it for people at the back. 7 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:38pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:Because unlike in GEJs time where only crude prices were on the up due to increased production and demand, today, the world is also battling with food and fertilizer shortages so what ever gains could have been made from high crude prices are being lost due to equally high CPI. I don't want to hold brief for Buhari but it is a global issue. Ask Pedo Biden and the west. 8 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:44pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17: What should NNPCs auditor say? Okay, the issue is simple: PwC should publish the audit so that all of us can pore over it. hahaha. Since 2015, they refused to do so. The bolded was what I responded to. At this point, your argument is starting to look somehow. Is the auditor general a staff of PWC or wetin you dey talk gan gan? ![]() Well, attached is PDF of the report by PWC, you lied again. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Audit-Report-on-NNPC.pdf |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 4:44pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Lol funny people and they will say GEJ was good yen yen yen. Android17: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:46pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
So in summary you lied that crude oil was at an all-time high pre 2015 abi? ![]() Android17: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by homesteady(m): 4:48pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17: You are now arguing with what you posted oh. I literally wrote down what was written in the screenshot you posted. Was it not the entire $460k dollars that couldn’t be claimed by Tinubu that was seized? I have posted screenshots of court papers explicitly stating that it was forfeited for been associated with drugs. You have posted screenshots explicitly stating that the money was associated with drugs. There are several court papers available, not even one paper explicitly stated anything about tax. The recurring statement made in all the papers is “Money associated with drugs”. With this, I think I will rest my fingers. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:51pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Theflint1:You are late to the party. Sanusi accused FGN of romancing with NNPC to cheat Nigerians. FGN trying to defend itself then hired PwC to audit NNPCs report to prove they did nothing wrong. That is why I asked you what you expected PwC to say? Those ones factoring their global brand now had to sneak in caveats like "we did not follow our usual standards" and then reduced the amount discussed without any hard facts. Abi minimum of $1.48B does not include even up to $20B? lol You people don't rate Nigerians. 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:53pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Theflint1:All-time high is contextual. It was all-time high at the time being discussed or did you honestly include 2022 in your thinking process? 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by homesteady(m): 4:56pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Android17: Lmao, I thought it was that simple? Let Buhari make merry with the high Oil price and keep inflation low. Let us pretend like vandals are not contributing to this mess. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:59pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
I knew you'd claim you were referring to before 2015 and not after but let's agree to disagree on that. Oya did you lie that PWC failed to provide a report of their audit? Android17: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:02pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:How am I still arguing with someone who still does not know what a court order is? Okay so if the court finds BAT in possession of 460K narcodollars the only punishment by the law is forfeiture? ![]() If Pablo Escobar sent a shoe seller money (even under the guise of truly buying shoes), and the seller cannot prove it with a genuine invoice, do you know the court is allowed to order that money to be confiscated as proceeds from narcotics? If that is the case, does it mean the shoe seller is a drug baron or an accomplice of the drug baron? Does it mean the shoe seller was convicted of money laundering? 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:05pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Theflint1:If I say President Obama did ABC in 2012 does it mean I lied that he is the current president? PwC did not provide any report. Buhari threatened that he will sanction its release after winning the elections then all of a sudden the document "leaked" with caveats about how they know they did not do a thorough job. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:09pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
homesteady:I should have added ceteris paribus so we won't go through this merry-go-round. Abi can you point to how UK and USA etc are handling the same global issue today differently? The US is currently undergoing a 40-year high inflation rate. In Nigerian history, that is almost as old as the country. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:13pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
chrisooblog:That is what makes me laugh. Let us call failure by its name. It is a spade not a big spoon. 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:13pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Some people came here to advane a false agenda in the face of compelling & overwhelming evidence contrary. Rating PMB's regime above GEJ's administration is a crime against humanity. Only hardcore Buharians like the vulture grillers will publicize & defend such opinion! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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