Mikee19:

I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this.
Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist
Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else?
Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging!
Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered.

Mikee19:


Hebrew scriptures!

(when i keep asking for GREEK SCRIPTURES relevant to the new covenant to show that's how we're to address him in this day and age when he's our Father, smh. You call your father by his own first name?)

cornelboy:


I was asking how KJV got their 1 John 5 7 from, you never responded to that.

You want me to respond to all your epistles here.
Keep it short abeg.

Mikee19:


I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this.

Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist

Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else?

Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging!

Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered.

achorladey:


They like to repeat and merry go round over their doctrines hoping you will accept it eventually even when you have presented strong evidence that shows no basis for you to accept it.

The image below they have seen posted here repeatedly but they will look away in order to repeat their doctrines hoping will fall for it.

When reading becomes difficult atleast diagrammatic representation will be of help.

Janosky:


Did Jesus read & quote Deuteronomy 6:4 @ Mark12:29 and said:" Lord"?

John 17:6,26 what name did Jesus make known at Mark12:29?

Hypocrites against the use of Letter "J, for God's name,is "Jesus" in the Greek scriptures?
Is John James,Jude, in the Greek scriptures?

Oga, continue deceiving yourself.

Emusan:


See painment of this worshipper of lying 8 old men



So Catholic didn't formulate Jehovah bah



This thing just dey pain this JaNosenses well well :

If not because dust full your empty skull, where did I talk about letter J here?

Oponu Mr Gebbrish typer

Continue to insult yourself,Mr LIENUS.
They come online be throwing tantrums "the name is not in the new testament", the name is not God's name blah blah blah...
Tomorrow Sunday,all of them go enter their business centers singing. "Jehovah is your name, Jehovah is your n....a....m.....e".
3 deities worshippers and their HYPOCRISY.
D

achorladey:


Me I know your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING and your SHAMELESSNESS won't allow see........


READ and QUOTE

Janosky:

Mike and 4 mumu, Hebrew and Greek were spoken during Jesus time on Earth.
Did Jesus read & quote Deuteronomy 6:4 @ Mark12:29 and said:" Lord"?

Janosky:
John 17:6,26 what name did Jesus make known at Mark12:29?

Mikee19:
If i tell you, your dad has a good name, do i mean that his name "Jeff" (or whatever it is) is a good name, or i mean what he has done, his person, his character? The word "name" DOES NOT only mean a literal name, it is also all that a person is! So on what grounds do these Jesus was saying "your name JEHOVAH" instead of "all that you are"? Isn't it even more correct to say "say, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be your person" and "I have made manifest to them all about who you are and represent"?

The way he "made manifest to them his name" was in teaching them about God, who he is, and what he represents. You cannot prove this otherwise, no such thing exists

Janosky:
Did Peter read "Lord" @ Psalm 110:1 & used it @ Acts 2:34?
NEVER!

achorladey:


Me I know your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING and your SHAMELESSNESS won't allow see........


READ and QUOTE

To show more about your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING in your NWT John 17 Jesus said the word FATHER (6 times) and name (4 times). That's how important calling God Father is

Janosky:

Continue to hide yourself in the kingdom Hall as if you love Jehovah.
Coward deceiving himself.

Continue to hide yourself in the kingdom Hall as if you love Jehovah.

Coward deceiving himself

Janosky:


Go and find goggles to read the screenshot proof of Mark 12:29 that Achorladey is LYING on this public forum.

Janosky:

Continue to insult yourself,Mr LIENUS.
They come online be throwing tantrums "the name is not in the new testament", the name is not God's name blah blah blah...
Tomorrow Sunday,all of them go enter their business centers singing. "Jehovah is your name, Jehovah is your n....a....m.....e".
3 deities worshippers and their HYPOCRISY.
D

Tomorrow Sunday,all of them go enter their business centers singing. "Jehovah is your name, Jehovah is your n....a....m.....e".

Mikee19:


What if he did? What actual evidence do you have otherwise?



I have responded in FULL to this earlier:






And you know this how?

Actually it's up to you to accept very sound points I've made on this topic. You say things with no actual proof. But that's fine by you. You can call your dad by his name ba? God cannot protect his word from changes by random ppl ba? Yet this makes sense to you, and you have confidence that only that one was changed, he was powerless to protect it from changes in that one, but all others, no problem. You cannot see how you're really challenging the power of God Almighty. How maybe other parts were also changed undetected. No problem, suit yourself

Janosky:

Read the screenshot proof or continue in your folly.

achorladey:



And your HYPOCRISY alongside that of MaxInDHouse comes in the form of saying Jehovah’s witnesses are the ONLY one using God's name in their WORSHIP. Yet see your words below.....




NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER you see your SHAMELESSNESS? Later you will deny you didn't call the God you serve DOGHEADS . All are the WORKS of NO GET SENSE PEDDLER.

Shhuuuuoooo !!!!!!
In screenshot evidence Achorladey is against use of Jehovah as God's name.
Why is Achorladey so DECEITFUL & DUBIOUS ?

Suddenly, within an interval of less than 10 minutes, Achorladey's memory reversed and he he believes his 3 deities worshipping Crew singing

Mikee19:


That's the best you can do? Using a TRANSLATION by somebody else rather than the original manuscript?

It's official. You have NO proof, but will rather chase shadows. Suit yourself!

Taken from jw own website:

"Elias Hutter was born in 1553... In 1587, Hutter produced a Hebrew edition of what is called the Old Testament... Hutter also printed what is commonly called the New Testament, with the text in 12 languages. This edition was published in Nuremberg in 1599 and is often referred to as the Nuremberg Polyglot. Hutter wanted to include a Hebrew-language translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. But he said that even if he “had been willing to pay a fortune” for such a Hebrew translation, the search would have been in vain. * So he decided to translate the New Testament from Greek into Hebrew himself."

1599 translation Smh!

Even in that pic, they said "the divine name as it appears in different TRANSLATIONS"!

As in TRANSLATIONS of the original thing!

It does NOT appear in the original manuscript!

Only in translations by others! But sure, chase shadows...

Mikee19:


That's the best you can do? Using a TRANSLATION by somebody else rather than the original manuscript?

It's official. You have NO proof, but will rather chase shadows. Suit yourself!

Taken from jw own website:

"Elias Hutter was born in 1553... In 1587, Hutter produced a Hebrew edition of what is called the Old Testament... Hutter also printed what is commonly called the New Testament, with the text in 12 languages. This edition was published in Nuremberg in 1599 and is often referred to as the Nuremberg Polyglot. Hutter wanted to include a Hebrew-language translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. But he said that even if he “had been willing to pay a fortune” for such a Hebrew translation, the search would have been in vain. * So he decided to translate the New Testament from Greek into Hebrew himself."

1599 translation Smh!

Even in that pic, they said "the divine name as it appears in different TRANSLATIONS"!

As in TRANSLATIONS of the original thing!

It does NOT appear in the original manuscript!

Only in translations by others! But sure, chase shadows...

Various evidences abound but you pretend to ignore them.

Go to NWT appendix A5 or continue deceiving yourself and throw more tantrums.

Is Hallelujah in your Bible at Revelation 19:3-6?
Is "Hallelujah" praising you,Mikee19?

Abeg shift!

Janosky:
Various evidences abound but you pretend to ignore them.
Is Hallelujah in your Bible at Revelation 19:3-6? Is "Hallelujah" praising you,Mikee19?
Abeg shift!

Janosky:

Shhuuuuoooo !!!!!!
In screenshot evidence Achorladey is against use of Jehovah as God's name.
Why is Achorladey so DECEITFUL & DUBIOUS ?

Suddenly, within an interval of less than 10 minutes, Achorladey's memory reversed and he he believes his 3 deities worshipping Crew singing

. "Jehovah is your name, Jehovah is your n....a....m.....e".
Is Achorladey evidence they use God's name.

Achorladey, Chameleon numero uno alias "Snake man".
Rozz did not LIE.

Suddenly, within an interval of less than 10 minutes, Achorladey's memory reversed and he he believes his 3 deities worshipping Crew singing

Mikee19:
You asked ME? ? ? WHERE? ? ?

Mikee19:
I have responded in FULL to this earlier:

Janosky:

Achorladey, alias "Snake man". Rozz did not LIE.

Mikee19:


Hebrew scriptures!

(when i keep asking for GREEK SCRIPTURES relevant to the new covenant to show that's how we're to address him in this day and age when he's our Father, smh. You call your father by his own first name?)

johnw47:


nothing snakey about him, you just love lies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

however brocab was right in calling you sewer mouth, wasn't he
there are plenty of your posts to show it
smile, those false jw's are so confused, it comes from their habitual lying.

achorladey:

5:35am ,17th July,2022.
We wait when you and your only TRUE CHRISTIANS crew come running and peddle your WAILINGS that you are the only ONE using the name JEHOVAH in your worship to God.

That SONG you talked about is it in your song book called SING TO JEHOVAH? Abi na u teach them how to sing using the name JEHOVAH

Janosky:

Read the screenshots evidences and continue in your folly.

... did the screenshot of Mark 12:29 NWT REFUTE his claim about Jehovah in the Greek Scriptures & New World Translation?

Ordeh !!!!![/b]

Mikee19:


Can I ask you just one favour?

Please please please and please, just gimme only ONE time where it is recorded in the entire gospels that Jesus called God "Jehovah" to "manifest the name" to his disciples? Only one pls! We are trying to test your hypothesis that Jesus "made manifest the name JEHOVAH", instead of the person of the Father?

Wait...

Not even a single place?

Can u now see just how weak your argument is! Not even a single place Jesus used the word "Jehovah"! I'm not talking of any place where Jesus quoted scripture and the JW translators helped him to change it to "Jehovah" there like they did in this place o:

Mat 21:9 NWT As for the crowds, those going ahead of him and those following kept crying out: "Save, we pray, the Son of David! Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name! Save him, we pray, in the heights above!"

Because this sort of thing is trickery. The people at that time were NOT using the name JEHOVAH, they even had the tetragrammar in their scrolls to ensure they didn't pronounce that name! So how come the translators now put it in here by trickery?

I want no such trickery. Just ONE place Jesus is using the name "Jehovah" with his disciples in "making manifest the name to them", while not quoting scripture

It doesn't exist. Because Jesus did no such thing. The way he "made manifest to them his name" was in teaching them about God, who he is, and what he represents. You cannot prove this otherwise, no such thing exists

immaculatesense:

Lol... finally he (Janosky) goofed...he thought about how he could accuse me but found nothing...glory to God in the highest. Unfortunately for him...I am not a trinitarian...go into my comments in other thread...u will see my take on the topic Trinity.
Janosky...since u failed this one...can u keep trying to guess wat I believe in except Christ and the scriptures?...I am a Christian...keep guessing wat ORGANIZATION I belong to.

Trinity? Constantine? Council of Nicae Creed?

None is my conviction.
Can u see u can't know who I am except being a CHRISTIAN. I am proud to not be an association fanatic that will make people not to see Christ in me but Organization...I am a Christian...all u can see is christ.

Keep trying ooo...people are reading ur FAILURES

[b]Immaculate LYING & deceiving 3 gullible mumu on 18th June,2022 (screenshots evidences).
@ Philippians 2:6, is "Although he was God" in that verse?
NEVER !
The forgery of your Trinity mentors is not holy scriptures.
Correct rendition: "Although he was in the form of God".

4th LIE :" I am not a Trinitarian"
ImmaculateSense is a mentee of Trinitarians, inventors of the man made scam of the Council of Nicene

Your Trinity mentors made forgeries in 1Jn5:7, Revelation 1:11, John 10:33,1 Timothy 3:16 & Philippians 2:6 & more.
Deceitful lots

Janosky:


For the record:
The same Achorladey saying Jehovah is not God's name now saying his 3 deities devotees "sing using God's name JEHOVAH"

Mikee19:


Sigh...

Ayam tired. My tired is tired. I can't be repeating myself over and over again now. Some ppl just want to win argument at all cost. Did you really read what i have been saying or you're just reading to reply so that you "win"? This is the last time I'll respond to you on this matter cos you're not reading, you just want to reply and "win". Doesn't matter to you that you're clearly wrong!

Lemme again quote myself:



Let me explain my quote, for the last time, in plain English:

Shey you see that scripture i quoted ehn, we know that the ppl at that time DID NOT pronounce the name Jehovah! They had tetragrammar in their scrolls! Not a single one of them ever called God using that name "Jehovah" in their whole life before! Even when quoting scripture! So who "helped" them to put that name "Jehovah" inside for them? The Nwt translators! They changed what they said and helped them put "Jehovah" inside even tho we know they didn't pronounce God's name themselves! Because this is a quoted scripture from the old Testament, the translators reckoned that the name Jehovah belongs inside it. So the translators THEMSELVES are the source of "Jehovah" inside that passage, not the ppl themselves who spoke!

This will also therefore hold for ANYBODY quoting old Testament scripture as well! The translators will help them put in "Jehovah" even if that's not what the original person said, reasoning that it belongs there as it is a quoted scripture!

Because of this trickery (that's what it really is, trickery), I made sure to SPECIFY that I WANT NO QUOTED SCRIPTURE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT that the JW translators preformed such trickery with their words. Yet that's exact what you brought again, ANOTHER QUOTED SCRIPTURE from the old Testament!

This will be my last response to you on this matter. You have no proof, and aren't reading my responses. I can't be repeating myself. Cheers

They must be ready follow directions even when those directions don't make sense.

JESUS READ and QUOTE

Janosky:

Immaculate LYING & deceiving 3 gullible mumu on 18th June,2022 (screenshots evidences).
@ Philippians 2:6, is "Although he was God" in that verse?
NEVER !
The forgery of your Trinity mentors is not holy scriptures.
Correct rendition: "Although he was in the form of God".

Immaculate 2nd Lie:
ImmaculateSense, Did Jesus Christ or John 14:28 & John 20:17 claim equality with God his Father?
NEVER !

3rd Lie..
The man claimed Jesus lived inside God.
Lazarus was in the bosom of Abraham, did Lazarus live inside Abraham?
NEVER !
John 8:38 Jesus is in the presence of his Father.
When you are in the presence of your Father,are you living inside your Father?
NEVER!
4th LIE :" I am not a Trinitarian"
ImmaculateSense is a mentee of Trinitarians, inventors of the man made scam of the Council of Nicene

Your Trinity mentors made forgeries in 1Jn5:7, Revelation 1:11, John 10:33,1 Timothy 3:16 & Philippians 2:6 & more.
Deceitful lots [/b]

Janosky:

All your quotes of John 8:44 and the curse of Isaiah 5:20 fall on your deluded head.
Deluded , LYING John W con artist, did the screenshot of Mark 12:29 NWT REFUTE his claim about Jehovah in the Greek Scriptures & New World Translation?
Ordeh !!!!!