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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by uniquelyspecial(m): 11:23am On Jul 17, 2022
mightiersa:


A lot.

Supply their food, clothing, and surveillance. There are more.
Hahaha
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by Mercury12(m): 11:23am On Jul 17, 2022
SisterFire:
...I'm sorry I had to insult ur mum , but ur brothers n sisters are suffering humiliation in foreign lands it disturbs my soul. I av no black soul but I have no peace with this scenarios,
If u don't kill ur politicians they won't fear that word justice ...I was alive in Znerdæ( sodom deutsch) In late 13century when youths killed both church leaders n politicians ,their descendants in Switzerland Czech are enjoying it till date. Pardon my rudeness ,let's be friends.

Note: not that I am pained by ur word hag but I don't look like a hag in my nephilim form though I am 2.483billion years old ( but the body is in my H∞≈cocoon hibernating )

What is your father name and where is he at?
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by longview007: 11:25am On Jul 17, 2022
sorosoke101:
But dats very wrong of you to record someone's private life, even if it is paradise

He can't creat � for the nigerian citizen and leave to have peace in another man's country.

Let all of them experience crises when ever they travelers abroad.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by sorosoke101: 11:31am On Jul 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


When you see your Nigerian politicians out in public (and it isn’t election time), do they stop and offer you a seat so that they can hear your concerns?
not all eggs are and
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by Originalsly: 11:36am On Jul 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


Do you think it was a conference hall or hotel? To me, it looked like a conference hall or restaurant inside of a hotel, the kind where meals and maybe banquets are served throughout the day but I could be wrong. I know you called me Eatalian but now I’m hungry. grin


grin ... makes sense!... restaurant inside a hotel.... how can I disagree or argue with you when the topic is food related? I know when to stay in my lane... and not even drift out!

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by DWickedLandLord: 11:37am On Jul 17, 2022
maasoap:


Interesting! But you overlooked one important message in your comment: that guy recording him could could have been shot. Is that not your message? grin grin grin


While I do see your angle, that's not most likely to do it.

Nothing gets Americans emotional like children n property. N when someone is being emotional, they're not thinking rationally. Hence the possibility of gunplay
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by ibrishautos: 11:44am On Jul 17, 2022
That doesn't change the fact that the guy does not have the right to record aregbesola without permission, Nigerian are our own problem ! Why would you disgrace and publicly disrespect a minister representing your own country just to chase clout on social media and then we ask why other countries don't respect us? This Is a big shame!
SisterFire:
...Damn it ,sue your ass Harvey , in my world that aregbesola man would have been burnt to ashes but in ur cursed black world u still side him. You are wicked yes
We live in diaspora because of this wicked souls eating our nature given wealth , we suffer bitten cold , humiliation for peanuts and total shame ,we hid our faces in a whiteman land with resources ,when in Nigeria we have it bountifully.
Is paining my heart that man didn't slap rotten teeths outta his maggotted teeth
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by ibrishautos: 11:45am On Jul 17, 2022
That doesn't change the fact that the guy does not have the right to record aregbesola without permission, Nigerian are our own problem ! Why would you disgrace and publicly disrespect a minister representing your own country just to chase clout on social media and then we ask why other countries don't respect us? This Is a big shame!
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by DWickedLandLord: 11:51am On Jul 17, 2022
tsdarkside:


what do you mean you can....??

you think i will allow you to film me even in america....??

be happy when i no slapp you....


Rule #1 in America, KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF.

The day you violate that rule also means you're willing to accept the possible deadly consequences
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by olakan22: 11:53am On Jul 17, 2022
Not a fan of Aregbesola but this was very sheepish... Guy started using fake accent then he couldn't keep up. In America, it's not likely you're that close to the President not to talk of engaging him in such manner.
While I get the need to demonstrate the political elites' failures and irresponsibility, it shouldn't be at this level. Too low.

Aregbesola should press charges especially with regards to privacy and harassment. He should help our investigative journalist's village people catch up with him.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by DWickedLandLord: 12:00pm On Jul 17, 2022
Alajiki:


It was plain stupid and wrong for the guy to have recorded him without his permission. And asking him "...are you Aregbesola..." is disrespectful. You already know who he is, why ask that? Many of you support what you cannot take forming wannabe American "I know my right". If Aregbesola had smashed that phone, he would have been right, even in America.

Even with this evidence, Aregbesola can sue him.


Pure rubbish mixed with nonsense
You dey advise from your village

Somebody is telling you how things work here you still dey argue
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by stephenponti(m): 12:04pm On Jul 17, 2022
MikoB:
Even though, you are in america does not give you the right to record someone without his permission, Adeko dere Ode.

You know nothing. American law permits anybody to record anybody in any public space.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by drakeli: 12:04pm On Jul 17, 2022
wirinet:


As an American, are you insinuating that you can heckle me, invade my private space and disturb my peace and the police wouldn't do anything? Will a private business (the restaurant) allow one of their customers to be harrased and their security won't be able to throw the offending party out because the person broke no laws?

Of course the guy doing the recording was too much in aregbe’s face and that’s the only problem there. He could have recorded him like 8 feet away and that wouldn’t have been any problem whether the minister liked it or not as much as the guy doesn’t touch him. He was obviously in his personal space.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by assholemods: 12:11pm On Jul 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


He isn’t misinterpreting the law.
He his....let him come to Houston and try that A lot of people have being shot at Sunny side because of that.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by drakeli: 12:12pm On Jul 17, 2022
zedegit:


If the law in America was that he could record anyone he saw why didn't he stand up to it then?

There was a time C Ronaldo was walking after a bad match a Yeye fan was bringing his camera close. C Ronaldo simply stumped on it and walked away.

You think he didn't know the law?

What an opportunity to milk C Ronaldo. I’m sure that didn’t happen in America. That’s why American law is different because he would be sued to cash out. If it happened in America, C Ronaldo would pay hundreds of thousands dollars.

I’m very sure lawyers took advantage of that for the boy and C Ronaldo settled him behind closed door
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by MiaBeer(m): 12:13pm On Jul 17, 2022
KingAzubuike:

Oga keep quiet and stop forming woke when you actually know nothing. I'm not a fan of aregbe but that dude was plainly constituting nuisance. Someone asked you to stop recording him yet you remained adamant and forming this is America nonsense. If aregbe had smashed that phone, he would have won in court. I've seen similar situations. What the guy did was no longer recording, it was becoming an harassment.
Shut up! There’s no harassment there because you don’t know how pissed most of us are about Nigerian politicians who mess up our Country.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by drakeli: 12:14pm On Jul 17, 2022
assholemods:

He his....let him come to Houston and try that A lot of people have being shot at Sunny side because of that.

That still doesn’t make recording illegal whether people were shot or not in as much I’m not in your personal space . The shooter too has a law that will throw his behind in jail for life
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by obailala(m): 12:16pm On Jul 17, 2022
aribisala0:
NO .

You are in public and there is no privacy as long as they keep a reasonable distance . Does not make any difference that he is a public official that is irrelevant.
Anything that is in your visual field that you can record with your eyes in a public space you can record with your phone.
Why not invest a little time and do some research?
The legal positions is that is you are in public you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy

So why not Google

REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY
If a person did not undertake reasonable efforts to conceal something from a casual observer (as opposed to a snoop), then no subjective expectation of privacy is assumed

Apparently there's no law against videoing a person in public. But it's important to keep a 'reasonable' distance. The man videoing Aregbe obviously wasn't keeping a 'reasonable' distance, he was right in his face and literally harrassing him - public official or not, that was wrong!

I believe while the law doesnt prohibit videoing a person without their consent, the law doesnt permit you to audio record a person without their permission. So in this context, I guess 'reasonable distance' may be defined as 'a distance far enough to catch an audio recording of whatever the person is saying'.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by drakeli: 12:18pm On Jul 17, 2022
tsdarkside:


what do you mean you can....??

you think i will allow you to film me even in america....??

be happy when i no slapp you....

I will be happy to be slapped and cash out big. You don’t put your hands on someone in America without paying since I didn’t put my hands on you
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by drakeli: 12:21pm On Jul 17, 2022
Alajiki:


It was plain stupid and wrong for the guy to have recorded him without his permission. And asking him "...are you Aregbesola..." is disrespectful. You already know who he is, why ask that? Many of you support what you cannot take forming wannabe American "I know my right". If Aregbesola had smashed that phone, he would have been right, even in America.

Even with this evidence, Aregbesola can sue him.
Whether it was stupid and wrong is one thing and whether is legal is another thing. The thing is, the recording is not illegal in America in as much as the guy was not in aregbe’s personal space or in his face
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by obailala(m): 12:22pm On Jul 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


No invasion of privacy occurred. The police would’ve calmly explained that there’s no privacy in a public space.
The law doesnt prohibit video recording a person in a public space, as long as you keep a 'REASONABLE DISTANCE'.

The laws also doesnt permit audio recording a person without their permission. So in this context, 'reasonable distance' may just be defined as 'a distance far enough for you not to capture an audio recording of the person's private conversation in your video'.

Imagine for one second that that was a young lady with a child, and then the man walks up to her, right in her face and starts videoing. You really think the law would permit such invasion simply because it's a public place?

That man was in Aregbe's face literally, that was a clear case of invasion and the police would have dragged him away to at least 10 metres away.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by Originalsly: 12:25pm On Jul 17, 2022
wirinet:


And you think the most sensible way to get common international passport or get the country on the right path is by heckling government officials overseas?

If you are not ashamed of Nigerians always causing nuisance in foreign lands, I am. We should not be fighting our political dirty fights in other people's lands.


It may not be the most sensible way... but it is an effective way. Politicians say and do as they please because there are no consequences. Nigerians at home cannot freely express how they feel about them ... or do anything to them because there will be serious consequences. Abroad... it's a different story... the politician and the common man are on the same level. I fully support the heckling... and filming and shaming and embarrassing and roughing up and even stoning (if it's safe to do so) of any of these crooked politicians abroad. They must not know peace abroad. Politicians can't do without traveling abroad... if the bad ones are mobbed on their travels.... I can guarantee you they will be trying to do the right thing at home and the country will be better.
In this case.... I don't agree with the guy making all that noise in the venue. That kind noise is for outside. He should have sat down with him ... filmed even the woman which... yea which .... witch may not even be his wife.... aired some of his grievances... like is the money spent on this rendezvous our taxpayers money? ... and madam you look familiar... wasn't it you that approached my car late one nite at the red light few weeks back in Abuja wanting to ask me something?... and shout him down if he goes outside.

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by obailala(m): 12:26pm On Jul 17, 2022
aribisala0:
Following you around is another matter which may be unlawful
The principle is that it is lawful to make a video recording. Doing so in an intrusive manner e.g shining bright lights on a person's face, invading personal space making abusive or inappropriate remarks etc may be a public order offence but if I am not in your personal space I can record even the police.
If you are in public you cannot assert "privacy" violation. Smashing phone?? Well are you King Kong.? You go look face before you smash. No matter how hard you are there is always a harder man.
This is the US where people carry guns so that approach might get you some surprises . You have no right to smash anyone's phone but could lose your life trying to do that. Violence as tempting as it is solves few things
Was exaggerating when I said "smashing his phone". But the point is that the man was clearly invading another person's privacy. No crime in recording a person in public, but you have to keep a reasonable distance. That man was literally in Aregbe's face and following him around.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:27pm On Jul 17, 2022
assholemods:

He his....let him come to Houston and try that A lot of people have being shot at Sunny side because of that.

It’s not illegal to record anyone out in public in any of the 50 states. Good day
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by obailala(m): 12:27pm On Jul 17, 2022
drakeli:
First of all, remember that nobody knows you. You are not a public figure. Aregbe is a public figure in public space. In America, he can be recorded. The only problem I have with the guy recording is that he’s too close. He could do that 8 feet’s away with no problem
You're correct, whether he's a private or public figure doesnt matter in this case. Videoing a person in public isnt also the issue; the issue here is that he didnt keep a reasonable distance, and that already constitutes an invasion of private space/harassment.

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:31pm On Jul 17, 2022
obailala:
The law doesnt prohibit video recording a person in a public space, as long as you keep a 'REASONABLE DISTANCE'.

The laws also doesnt permit audio recording a person without their permission. So in this context, 'reasonable distance' may just be defined as 'a distance far enough for you not to capture an audio recording of the person's private conversation in your video'.

Imagine for one second that that was a young lady with a child, and then the man walks up to her, right in her face and starts videoing. You really think the law would permit such invasion simply because it's a public place?

That man was in Aregbe's face literally, that was a clear case of invasion and the police would have dragged him away to at least 10 metres away.

I’ll ask you kindly to please stop attempting to educate me on the law, especially when you don’t have a good understanding of those very laws.
You’re misinterpreting the law and conflating wiretapping and recording laws with videotaping and it’s like comparing mangoes to garden eggs. Even with wiretapping and recording phone conversations, some states don’t require advance permission.
Video Recording and taking photos of people in public spaces, whether it includes sound or not, is legal in all 50 states.
You continue to beat a dead horse because Aregbe was in a public space and there is no privacy within public spaces. Regardless of how you twist it, the man recording him committed no crime.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by MikoB: 12:35pm On Jul 17, 2022
stephenponti:


You know nothing. American law permits anybody to record anybody in any public space.

America law permits you to record and film someone provocatively?
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:36pm On Jul 17, 2022
obailala:
You're correct, whether he's a private or public figure doesnt matter in this case. Videoing a person in public isnt also the issue; the issue here is that he didnt keep a reasonable distance, and that already constitutes an invasion of private space/harassment.

“A reasonable distance” can be argued in any court of law. What you consider reasonable May not be reasonable to me. You’re trying to move the goalposts and it’s not working. The police wouldn’t have done anything which is why the politician didn’t call them. He knows that he is only out of the public’s reach in Nigeria.
Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:36pm On Jul 17, 2022
MikoB:


America law permits you to record and film someone provocatively?

You guys keep trying to put conditions on the law. “Acting Provocatively” is subjective.

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by aribisala0(m): 12:37pm On Jul 17, 2022
obailala:
Apparently there's no law against videoing a person in public. But it's important to keep a 'reasonable' distance. The man videoing Aregbe obviously wasn't keeping a 'reasonable' distance, he was right in his face and literally harrassing him - public official or not, that was wrong!

I believe while the law doesnt prohibit videoing a person without their consent, the law doesnt permit you to audio record a person without their permission. So in this context, I guess 'reasonable distance' may be defined as 'a distance far enough to catch an audio recording of whatever the person is saying'.
Which law does not permit audio recording without permission?.
Whether or not he was keeping a reasonable distance is debatable. I do not know and neither do you. You say he was "in his face" ? Did he kiss him? We did not even see the guy's face or body and can only infer from the video
At some point in the video it was Aregbesola that moved TOWARD the guy to block recording. So one could argue they were in each other's faces. There is in some US states a principle of stand your ground .

Let us not comment on things we are not witnesses to as if we were.
I am only talking about the legal principles IN GENERAL.
You say he was "harassing" him. Well that is an opinion. others might say he was trolling .I do not want to get into debates about opinions. What is a fact is that at some point Aregbesola invited him to sit with him so if harassment occurred at what point did an invitation to sit change to a harassment experience. I do not know the law for that particular jurisdiction but generally harassment would indicate actions OCCURRING AT LEAST TWICE. on two or more separate occasions

The legal principle of concern is what are the redress options to harassment.
In approaching any debate it is important to clarify what the issues are to avoid being all over the place.

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:37pm On Jul 17, 2022
Originalsly:


It may not be the most sensible way... but it is an effective way. Politicians say and do as they please because there are no consequences. Nigerians at home cannot freely express how they feel about them ... or do anything to them because there will be serious consequences. Abroad... it's a different story... the politician and the common man are on the same level. I fully support the heckling... and filming and shaming and embarrassing and roughing up and even stoning (if it's safe to do so) of any of these crooked politicians abroad. They must not know peace abroad. Politicians can't do without traveling abroad... if the bad ones are mobbed on their travels.... I can guarantee you they will be trying to do the right thing at home and the country will be better.
In this case.... I don't agree with the guy making all that noise in the venue. That kind noise is for outside. He should have sat down with him ... filmed even the woman which... yea which .... witch may not even be his wife.... aired some of his grievances... like is the money spent on this rendezvous our taxpayers money? ... and madam you look familiar... wasn't it you that approached my car late one nite at the red light few weeks back in Abuja wanting to ask me something?... and shout him down if he goes outside.

I agree. They deserved to be shamed.

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Re: "You Can Not Record Me" Aregbesola Spotted "Arguing" With Nigerian In America by EgunMogaji2: 12:42pm On Jul 17, 2022
Felimax:
Some Nigerians in diaspora are just plain stupid. The man from the video was not constituting any nuisance so why the video?

Yes, it's America a free country but I will smash your phone then we end it in court. Fool!

He’ll get arrested for causing a public disturbance and you’ll get arrested for attempted robbery, assault and battery.

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