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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 12:13am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Mikee19:Oh it wasn't you I asked no vex. I like it short and precise. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 12:25am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Mikee19: To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity..Why didn't the earlier manuscripts have it but the later ones have it? Which one is authentic? The ones KJV use or the one some other translations use? You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same.Alright. Go for it. First, who were the first people to believe in the trinity? When was the doctrine established? |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 12:40am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Janosky: Isa 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! lost fraud jw janosky when christians talk about the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit they are talking about the Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible you false jw call the Christians Holy Spirit of the bible: "the ole demon ghost" when i quote scripture saying you are of your father the devil, and a liar i am quoting the truth: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. woe to you oh lost blasphemer janosky, for calling good evil: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Mikee19: The Jewish Rabbis decided to stop using God's personal name centuries before Jesus Christ but by the time Jesus walked the earth most Jews still know the name that's why Jesus only mention it in few instances since his listeners knows the name of their God: Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4 But most translators erroneous substitute the divine name with the title "LORD" that's why you will see verses like Psalms 23:1 say: The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. Psalms 23:1 If the divine name is restored back to it's place this is what David said: Jehovah is my Shepherd. I will lack nothing. Those translators had serious issue when under inspiration David later talked about what will happen in heaven when the Messiah (Christ) complete his earthly mission {John 19:30} and return to heaven. David said: Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet" Psalms 110:1 Let's read the same verse in most versions that the divine name has been removed: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalms 110:1 Can the upper or lower case be noticed in the reading if you're preaching to someone who feel like giving you a audience? The answer is NO! 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 5:42pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
johnw47: Achorladey posted a screenshot made FALSE about Jehovah in the Greek scripture but you saw the screenshot of Mark12:29 in NWT & Aramaic Bible & you John W LYING, deluded slave of Trinity so desperate to provide proof of your delusion. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 5:54pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
johnw47:John W LYING on this forum, ALL your quotes of John 8:44 and the curse of Isaiah 5:20 fall on your deluded head. Deluded , LYING John W con artist, did the screenshots 1&2 of Mark 12:29 NWT REFUTE your MALICIOUS LIES about Janosky & about Jehovah in the Greek Scriptures? Ordeh !!
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:38pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Janosky: NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER read your post very well and carry your SHAMELESSNESS comot for my mentions stop manipulating my SCREENSHOT into your....... Greek scripture but you saw the screenshot of Mark12:29 in NWT & Aramaic Bible And returned replying with your READ and QUOTE . Awon NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 11:44pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 12:08am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. oh so confused lost fraud jw janosky if you have a problem with something acholadey said then ask him about it and what is the delusion you talk about, quote it, because i cannot hear them voices you have in your head 1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 12:32am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Janosky: lost and so deluded blasphemer janosky you didn't get it the firse time, so once again you call the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit "the three dogheads" and you call the Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost" when i quote you as being "of your father the devil and a liar" i am quoting the truth Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. those voices in your head have you so confused oh lost one, the screenshot: "The Lord our God, the Lord is one" is a nice verse, just what is it you want me to tell you about it, and post the malicious lies you claim i said about you oh deluded one, and i will show yet again how it is the truth. all those voices in your head, you don't know who is saying what, so funny, it comes from all your lying and blaspheming 1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints you false jw's call out names and post your lies and confusion because you have nothing else, of course except blasphemy, paranoia etc. rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 1:13am On Jul 20, 2022 |
paranoia of thinking persons are also other persons and the confusion of posting to someone in reply to what others say is having demons in your head lost fraud jw janosky and co 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 7:59am On Jul 20, 2022 |
[quote author=Janosky post=114900664][/quote] That's what NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER does in company of his colleagues who call themselves the THE only TRUE CHRISTIANS By their FRUITS you shall indeed know them when they start calling PEOPLE MAD it is a common denominator they share with one another when discussion don't dance to their tune. . Other fruits include LABELS, INSULT, NAME CALLING e.t.c Your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING and your SHAMELESSNESS is visible and bright as the day. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 8:17am On Jul 20, 2022 |
johnw47: lost and so deluded blasphemer janosky you didn't get it the firse time, so once again Many problems for Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER you call the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit "the three dogheads" He wants to deny and lie his way out of his NO GET SENSE PEDDLING. Yet he said christendom used JEHOVAH(one of those he called DOGHEADS) in their worship to God on Sunday. All I see his delusion when I quote you as being "of your father the devil and a liar" I am quoting the truth He has learnt the art and act from his taskmasters. 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 9:42am On Jul 20, 2022 |
achorladey: janosky's voices have him so confused, paranoid, and dum that he looks in a mirror and say's: "what you lookin at" 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 9:57am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Janosky: Typing nonsense and ranting as usual. Did Catholic formulate the name Jehovah or not? Talk true and let your father the Devil ashamed for once 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 6:02pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Nice job guys! These JW minions keep looking stupid consistently. Even Watchtower disgraced them further by admitting that they are connected to IBSA in their own publications. No wonder they want to get rid of old publications. In fact, they said the work of IBSA is the work of Watchtower. They also said where you see IBSA, you see Watchtower same way Jesus said if you have seen him you have seen his Father. I hope these JW minions won't have sleepless nights over this because this is one awesome blow. They are denying IBSA for Watchtower but Watchtower is saying "Mbanu, we are IBSA" thus proving them wrong. Watchtower = IBSA. Pics below from Watchtower magazine 1914. Their connection to IBSA was also repeated in Watchtower magazine of 1917 pp 327-330.
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 6:08pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Watchtower also repeated the same IBSA connection in another publication you can find in their website below. Watchtower even says its corporations in New York and Pennsylvania work harmoniously together with IBSA and all 3 of these corporations are organised for Identical Purposes which tallies with similar information found in their Wikipedia page. Watchtower acknowledges IBSA as part and parcel of the History of Jehovah's witnesses. Oh,how painful it must be to realise that you have been dedicating your life to a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one! For a One True religion to keep running a Freemason Cult that meet in Masonic Lodges!How painful! What a Scam! So, when I said Watchtower is running IBSA and JWs at the same time, I was absolutely correct as Watchtower proved me right. Awesome right? Watchtower has always been upfront about who they really are but JWs don't pay attention or rather Watchtower doesn't permit JWs to pay attention.
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 6:56pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Damn JWs! SMH. You guys are Fukked! IBSA Masonic lodge known as Eastern Star Temple in 1920 in 1st and 2nd pics as shown in their Convention Pamphlet. You can see IBSA boldly shown on the building. IBSA in Masonic Lodge Today in 3rd and 4th pics. So according to Watchtower, in these pics where IBSA is, is also where Watchtower is? Got it! Thanks Watchtower!
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 9:53pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Jesus is not an important personality in the JW Cult at all! Antichristlike! Watchtower was at least honest from the Chart below that they don't receive directions from Jesus who is supposed to be the Head of the Church and the One in charge of Heaven and Earth right now. The authority of Jesus matters not. Watchtower is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to God Almighty except through Watchtower. Pitiful! No wonder Russell felt he was better than Jesus. Watchtower also showcased their beloved Cross and Crown in their 2016 documentary. They are proud of their Masonic heritage. 1 Like
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 11:26pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
I'll be back pls bear with me cornelboy: MaxInDHouse: |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Nobody: 8:26am On Jul 21, 2022 |
johnw47:Na Janosky dey do that rubbish, maybe he's scared of Trinitarians 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 6:59am On Jul 25, 2022 |
people can see Christ in Christians people can see false jw org. in false jw's thanks poster, so true 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:26am On Dec 07, 2023 |
johnw47:
Courz: Deluded devotees of POLYTHEISM and Courz IBERIBEIST, according to the screenshots of OLAADEGBU (slave of Kumuyi) did your church fathers receive direction to interpret scriptures from Jesus? HYPOCRITES from their mother's womb.
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:07pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
Courz: Good question. I trust them to run away from answering this question. Courz may be the Jws greatest nightmare. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:13pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: Is the Watchtower Organization a Trustworthy Interpreter of Scripture? by Luke Wayne | May 20, 2016 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions The Jehovah's Witnesses identify their governing body, the Watchtower Organization, as the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matthew 24:42-46. They believe that only with this organization's Spirit-guided help can one properly understand the Bible. As one Watchtower publication put it: "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the 'greatly diversified wisdom of God' can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. 8). They have identified themselves collectively as God's prophet but have made many false prophecies, and have admitted that if people were to study the Bible on their own, they would arrive at traditional Christian beliefs like the Trinity rather than at the distinctive teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses. We are, therefore, asked to abandon the obvious meaning of the Bible and instead accept the Watchtower's interpretation as authoritative. The Watchtower Organization, however, has proven itself to be a completely untrustworthy interpreter of the Bible. One clear proof of this comes to us from the fact that the Watchtower system of interpretation consistently produces specific predictions. When they use their approach to the Bible to predict future events (which they have done on many occasions), they fail every time. The Watchtower writers admit that this is a perfectly fair test, having themselves said: "Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!" (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8) The problem is not only that they make false predictions on the authority of God's word and are thus false prophets. That is certainly a huge problem and is more than sufficient reason to reject them, but there is more. The problem is also that the system of interpretation that leads them to these false predictions betrays the fact that they have no clue how to read and understand the Bible properly, and therefore have absolutely no grounds to insist that their own failed interpretations must be believed over against the plain meaning of the text. Such false predictions are the result of their particular method of interpretation. This is clear evidence that this interpretation is, to use their own words, "false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!" |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 1:38pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: What about Kumuyi the Reformer of OLAADEGBU deeper life Church? What about OLAADEGBU'S Church fathers misinterprete holy scriptures in the screenshot OLAADEGBU opened a thread for? HYPOCRITE WAILING about JWs dwelling in his head rent free 24/7.
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 1:42pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU ,You are on Nairaland to DECEIVE YOURSELF. Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus transmitted to OLAADEGBU. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:48pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
Janosky: The fear of Courz is the beginning of JWs wisdom. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 2:12pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU manifest Symptoms of Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus.
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 8:43pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool very dum lost fraud jw janosky how exactly is that a reply to my post oh very confused false jw: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand johnw47: |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 10:14pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
idiot noun a stupid person "I feel like a idiot who swallowed every lie I was told" archaic a person of low intelligence ^^^ sounds like those belonging to false jw org. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 11:11pm On Dec 07, 2023 |
Janosky: lost fraud jw janosky false jw's never ending paranoia is from the devil: paranoia is fear rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. 1 Like |
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