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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by davefurn: 10:21am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99:Yh no pics apart from a vid of them destroying a ship with harpoon missile |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by davefurn: 10:23am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99: Exactly bro 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 11:11am On Jul 19, 2022 |
I took the discussion to nemesis4u's thread. Let's go there and enjoy ourselves 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:16am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99:Iran self sufficient? My bru all there major equipment is imported.... However only difference is Egypt has imported some of the latest and most advanced equipment on the market and Iran has mostly cold War era equipment that have been obsolete for decades..... They have 0 modern fighters(Mig29s are from the late 80s), 0 modern gunships, 0 modern tanks,0 modern artillery(besides the G5 which they only have 50), 0 modern ships..... They literally have nothing P.s there tanks are frankenstein monsters, just old T72s mated to M60s.... 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NTSA: 11:35am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Left foot, right foot repeat. 11 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Bloodofthelambo: 12:49pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Odunayaw:link pls |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:16pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99: Egypt relies on import?! Egypt that ensures it haves a domestic factory for most equipment purchased?! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Buschlaid: 1:22pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
jl115: Facts! I'd say Iran is capable of making very impressive weapons and I wouldn't underestimate them. We cannot also say that either Egypt or Iran is stronger, because A) different doctrine and tactics (e.g. Iran puts a lot of emphasis on drones and ballistic missiles, something Egypt doesn't do as much and rather focuses on conventional weapon systems) B) luck (under this term I imagine a lot of things that are not entirely based on "luck", such as bad choices of enemy) C) different weapon system we often know little about because, and this might be surprising to many, most militaries keep specifications secretive. In fact look at Ukraine x Russia right now. No matter on whose side you are, you have to admit Ukraine is putting up hell of a fight for a country, that most predicted, would fall in 3 days. Contrary to this, many predicted Afghanistan would last a lot longer than it actually did. So unless this conflict happens, we might never know and let's hope we never find out. We can of course guess, but with questionable result. However, despite Iran producing some weapon systems they mostly built on their own, majority of weapon systems come from abroad or are reverse engineered. For example tank force compromises mostly of T-72S tanks (export version of T-72B1), Safir-74 (T-55 with upgrades like 105mm gun, new engine and Kontakt-1 derivative ERA - i.e. something Egypt also did with T-55E MkII Ramses), Chieftains (upgraded with T-72 engine), M60 tanks... There are of course many prototypes like Karrar, T-72 Rakhsh (only in a few pieces in service) and Zulfiqar. None of which entered service in greater numbers or at all. And this is common phenomenon in many fields, where most of the equipment is license copy/reverse engineered/old and upgraded to some extent/prototype that didn't enter service. Of course I'm not denying that there is some very succesfull and mass produced fully Iranian equipment, like Safir Jeep or Mohajer-6 UAV. On the other hand, Egypt is either procuring from abroad, building under license production (most of the quipment), upgrading old stuff or producing some of the local equipment, though only a portion compared to other approaches. Egypt is though, just like Iran, capable of producing some of the technologies/equipment on their own without any/with little help from outside. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Exnavyboy62: 1:25pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
jl115: Although Egypt's equipments outnumber that of Iran's but yet Iran has its own ideginious weapons which puts them off the hook of lack of spare parts in a scenario of sanctions or arms embargo being placed unlike Egypt that imports almost all their weapons. Speaking of modern weapons, they have; Iranian made Moudge class frigates, Bavar 373 SAM system, modern UCAVs, just to mention a few. But all the same, Egypt and Iran butting heads is not likely to occur. Let's set our sight on a more probable Israel/Iran stand-off |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 1:56pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Buschlaid:- Iran makes frakenstein weapons out of left overs from old soviet and American systems, don't get me wrong it is impressive what they have been able to achieve wrt their defence industry despite sanctions however those weapons just by looking at them one can see they are not world beaters. A) Actually its very easy to see that Egypt has the superior force not just in terms of quality but quantity as well. B) .... C) Don't know which people expected Ukraine would fall in 3 days but I for 1 didn't.....I've seen Russian tactics, weapons and Doctrine get Destroyed by much smaller forces during the border war |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 2:00pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Exnavyboy62:- that is an advantage yes, however even their own systems are just recycled cold war era weapons - The Moudge class frigate might be knew but it isn't modern and still uses very outdated systems, Iran have decent missile tech I would agree!! - Israel will demolish Iran |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NTSA: 3:04pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Looking at this map what is the likelihood of conventional, state-to-state conflict between Israel and Iran.?... Where would be the point of contact? There are so many variables in play that are being ignored. 4 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 3:12pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
jl115: First no doubt that most of Iran military equipments are old, but when it comes to war Egypt got nothing on Iran..I mean nothing at all. 1. Egypt despite it modern fighters can't get 1km near Iran airspace without getting shot down. 2. Egypt clear lacks the navy power to go against Iran with ships and subs armed with antiship- cruise missile. 3. Iran have ballistic missiles with 2000km range that can hit Egypt, and Egypt have no counter for even cruise missiles. How do you fight N enemy that can hit you without even getting close, while you are completely restricted from it own airspace. But I may be wrong though. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 3:51pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
NTSA: May never or will never happen If Israel decides to take the fight to Iran then they are on a suicide mission Iran proxy alone in the middleeast are more than some nations army, Israel will be fighting alone and isolated. Highest they can do is proxy, and that is where is Iran takes the lead. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 4:26pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 5:36pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
How would Egypt fight Iran when they're both located at both end of the Middle East map? But an interesting fight would be Turkey Vs Egypt 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 5:39pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Meanwhile Israel is retaliating against a bullet with airstrikes Israel is one mean no-nonsense country 6 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NTSA: 6:15pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99:True use of proxies and Missiles is where we are at ...and as we stand Israeli missile technology and air defenses have the upper hand .....but what do we know. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:59pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omofaye99:1. How did you get to that conclusion? 2. How did you get to that conclusion? 3. Iran isn't just going to nuke Egypt... That would be suicide for them....please be realistic You are wrong |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:04pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
lionel4power:It is this hell-hath-no-fury stance of Israel I have tried to communicate to Omofaye99 The USS Liberty is a stark reminder of how loco these guys can be 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Exnavyboy62: 8:18pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
lionel4power: Oh wow Israel retaliated at just a single bullet hit on an industrial building with airstrikes. How I wish Palestine could have retaliated at the bullet shot at Al-Jazeera journalist, Shireen Abu-Akleh. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Exnavyboy62: 8:24pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
NTSA: Look at how tiny Israel is. I even got to know that Borno state of Nigeria is two times the size of that country. Seems there won't be a possibility Iran and Israel butting heads after all |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 9:25pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
jl115: Iran possess different kind of SAM including S300 and it home built Bavar missile similar to the S300. Khordad missile defence can also intercept stealth jet and cruise missiles. Egypt jets won't survive Iran airspace. jl115: Iran have Ships armed with antiship cruise missiles and are capable of confronting Egypt ships heads on, their subs are well armed with subsurface to surface missiles which will make Egyptian ships an easy prey the missile capability of Iran is enough to make Egypt think twice. jl115: Iran won't nuke Egypt, they don't have nuclear warhead yet. But they can hit Egypt with ballistic missiles if there is war between both nation. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 9:37pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
NTSA: Non of Israel air defence system have encounter advance missiles yet. But i agree with then having the upper hand for now. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 9:45pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Odunayaw: Yes..Israel are very mean when it comes to retaliation, but we all saw what happened in 2006 against Hezbollah where they were targeting civilians in the name striking Hezbollah. Hamas is a weak adversary to Israel, Iran is on another level..strike them and watch the middleeast burn. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:55am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Omofaye99:- Egypt have some of the most advanced fighters in the world including Rafael, su35, mig29m, f16s.... And the s300 is from the cold War, you think modern fighters can't beat the S300? There are even reports that old SAAF impala were able to stay undetected from the s300 just by flying low. - i'm guessing you think Egypts ships and subs are unarmed hey? ..... My bru just Google Egypts fleet and then Google Irans fleet..... No comparison, Egypt has them beat in quality and quantity - and then Egypt will bomb the sh1t out of them with there much more advanced Airforce 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Segun2222: 8:53am On Jul 20, 2022 |
davefurn:thats not the s400, it's a 1.5m dollars missile it'll never be used against himars rockets unless if the himars was firing an atacms missile |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by davefurn: 8:55am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Segun2222:Yh, I found out latwr5; remember each himars missile cost close to 1m dolls too |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Omofaye99: 10:45am On Jul 20, 2022 |
jl115: You mean same s35 that are been shot down in Ukraine even f35 got hit by Syria s200 but Israel denied it which they are known for, mig29 are not invincible either they will be shot down by Iranian Sam systems. The f16 have not confronted s300 yet in combat, until it does..the f16 is not better and won't survive Iran airspace. impala common I will shoot down those impala with Ak47 rifle jl115:. Egypt has no submarine armed with subsurface or ballistic missiles, Iranian subs will rape Egyptian subs samr with ships. jl115: How will Egypt do that? Iran can hit Egypt with a distance of 1000+km, Egypt on the other hand will have to fly close to Iran to achieve that and they will be overwhelm and shot down by Iranian SAMs. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 11:55am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Omofaye99: Is it the same Isreal that destroyed Iraqi nuclear reactors you're talking about!!?! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:58am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Omofaye99:-You act as if the S300 is some kind of juju weapon that can't be defeated, the reports of 2 Su35s being shot down by S300 are unconfirmed even by Ukraine itself....the S300 has failed many times and has been evaded by much less advanced aircraft like the Impala....Also let me just remind you that Iran doesn't have the latest version of the S300 like Egypt. - you cant sink subs with ballistic missiles bru you need torpedoes or depth charges to do that!! - Iran don't have nearly enough radar coverage or SAM systems to protect there entire airspace....be realistic bru!! however this is hypothetical since neither country poses the necessary power projection to invade one another. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 12:00pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11:People don't know Israel 1 Like |
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