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Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by maestroferddi: 4:26pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
ArewaNorth:You are making ridiculous assertions! If Muhammad were to wake up today, chances are that he wouldnt recognized the current over-redacted version of the Quran in use today. You cannot claim not to know the various inconsistencies in various versions of the Quran. Dont let me expose you.... |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Haakeem:You are more dumb. Price the person you quoted is lying |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by maestroferddi: 4:42pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
ArewaNorth:You are making me laugh with your straw man assertions... |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Omoslim26: 5:27pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Idiko1: No no no I disagree. Infact the Quoran teaches that one should deny one's parents and even one's self to ensure that equity is attained. Islam is peace while Jihad is war. It is not every Muslim faithful that stands with Jihad. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by limeta(f): 9:35pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
naija4life247: I will insult your false prophet like never before Your Muslim brothers will tell you that you brought it on your prophet |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Spy360(m): 10:22pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Treepower2000:First we must accept that God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. Also God is infinite, that is He can take infinite forms and still remain the same. Jesus always referred to God as Father. This is because He proceeded from Him. As in God became man in the person of Jesus with the intention of establishing the strongest relationship with mankind and also to serve as an example for man to follow. That person He became is Jesus- totally striped of His powers but yet maintaining His divinity. Let's see a little illustration though not perfect. Take the number 1, square it, you still get one. As in 1x1= 1. You can even take an infinite square and still get the same thing. It's not a perfect illustration but can still serve. See the following... John 10:28-30, 38 John 14:8-11 1Timothy 3:16 |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Haakeem(m): 5:46pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Sweetplum:Another sapheaded fellow quoted me. get outtaf my men. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Haakeem:Alaye baje |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Entprys: Your choice bro. Its your life! |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Haakeem(m): 7:37pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Sweetplum:Don't quote me that your felon infested finger again. Or i'll cut it off. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Haakeem:Or your hands ll rather be cut off. Very foolis h simp of a boy! |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Haakeem(m): 8:22pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Sweetplum:Say that to your papa, you thickheaded lowbudget harlot. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by limeta(f): 9:17pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
ArewaNorth: |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Haakeem:Talakanaire, can you maintain an expensive chick? Your brokeness is highly noticed. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Haakeem(m): 10:44pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
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Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Nobody: 11:04pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Haakeem:Na you be HIV. Odelomo, mumuman. Elenu run. Obunhakeem. Na your type dey filled with gonorrhea, staphylococcus, syphilis, HIV/AIDS and you come dirty join. Idio t wearing one boxer for a week. Anuofia! Ebinna, elebi, onigbo! |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 4:43pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
ArewaNorth: Hold on. What am I reading in the bolded here? You guys believe Mary the mother of Jesus was same with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses? ![]() Compton11, Antichristian Come thou and see what I saw in the hilly Quran |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by compton11(m): 7:08pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
Ojuntana:who told u na Bible Miriam of Moses and Aaron? In the olden days,It was common to use "sister of" or "son of" to refer to people, especially if the people they referred them to are righteous people,that was the reason why Mary was called sister of Aaron there plus Mary is related to Aaron through Levites and u are doing as if the same isn't in the Bible. In Matthew 1:20, Joseph the carpenter was called son of David. In Matthew 1:16, Jacob was called the father of Joseph the carpenter again. And also Jesus was called son of David in Matthew 21:9 and in many other verse And NB my nigga ojutana, Miriam or whatever wasn't recorded as biology sister to Moses and Aaron in the Qur'an. 1 Like |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by NigerianAngelo(m): 7:44pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
Entprys: God bless your mother. But wait... are you baptised? May the grace of God sustain all of you in the true faith. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 8:58pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
compton11:Keep quiet there with your taqiyya. Son of David refers to the fact that David is his patriarch. The patriarchal system has stays been used to identify people since time immemorial even up to now. Jacob referred to in Matthew 1:16 is different from Jacob of Genesis. That Jacob has Eliezer as his father and Jacob of Genesis has Isaac as his father. And for your information, Mary is of the bloodline of David so why wasn't she referred to as daughter of David but sister of Aaron? When did sisterhood become a means of identify genealogy? Can you give other examples from the Quran of such genealogy through sisterhood? Is it not obvious that Muhammad will plagiarizing got confused and misinterpreted Mary mother of Jesus to be one and the same with Miriam sister of Aaron? Is it a coincidence that he misspelt Mary as Maryam when it is obvious Miriam is not mentioned at all in the quran? For your information, Mary"s father in the quran is Imran while Miriam and Moses father in the Bible is Amram. It is thus obvious that Muhammad plagiarized the OT and couldn't even do so competently. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by compton11(m): 10:34pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
Ojuntana:so u know that and your dumbass refused to accept that of Mary. Ojuntana:keep deceiving yourself there ![]() ![]() Luke 3:23 Even called him son of Eli ![]() ![]() Ojuntana:Which David? ![]() ![]() No be only David,put davido join. Where is the evidence she is the bloodline of David? Ojuntana:that is how they have been using it in the olden day just like how Joseph the carpenter is son of David. Ojuntana:Qur'an came to unveil the lies of the unknown writers. Ojuntana:hehehe shukẹ U feel tell me the father of Mary in OT? Ojuntana:it is obvious all Muhammed came to unveil all the lies. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by MissLeslie(m): 11:03pm On Jul 22, 2022 |
[quote author=BornKiller post=114884795]Are you not a grown up married man? Go back to knacking your brain on the ground and worshipping "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW). [/qu Werey |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 7:14am On Jul 23, 2022 |
compton11:She's a Bethlehemite and Bethlehem is the town of David. Read Luke 3 for her genealogy. Stay on the topic. Why did Quran mix Mary mother of Jesus with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses? Did the Angel make a mistake here? Or it's Muhammad who misheard? ![]() Note that he then went and called Mary's father Imran which is the name of Moses, Aaron and Miriam's father. So if Quran is the truth and the Bible was lying about the father of Moses, Aaron and Miriam, can you give us the name of their father different from Imran according to the "truthful" Quran? |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by compton11(m): 7:38am On Jul 23, 2022 |
Ojuntana:so because she was Bethlehemite make her automatically a lineage of David? ![]() ![]() Be deceving yourself there. Ojuntana:read it out for me and show me where her geneology was mentioned. ![]() ![]() Ojuntana:when did Quran tell that Miriam of B OT and Mary are same thing? Ojuntana:nigga,let your Bible story be to u and let my Qur'anic story be to me. Ojuntana:Qur'an never mentioned the name of father of Musa and Aaron just like Bible never mentioned the name of Mary's father's name. And why u acting as if the name amran is not common among the Jews? U are the one that told me that the Jacob mentioned as father of Joseph the carpenter wasn't the same as Joseph of Egypt,so why u acting as if multiple people can't bear same name? |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 9:05am On Jul 23, 2022 |
compton11:Bethlehem is the city of David. Anyone from there is from David's lineage. If you don't know how Jews count their genealogy go and find out. Anyway, since she's from Bethlehem, she can't be sister to Aaron as your Quran points out. Her genealogy is in Luke. I can't read it out for you cause your badly copied Quran already filled your head with lies. It's obvious it was a mistake. The copycat mistook Miriam sister of Aaron for Mary mother of Jesus which is why he took Miriam's father's name for Mary's. Mary's father's name is Hiel. It's in Luke 3. Quran copycats mixed both up due to their poor knowledge of both characters. It is also obvious that a lot of the so-called revelations in the Quran are actually hearsay which were prevalent in that time about Jewish history. It is for example why Quran claims that Jesus was not crucified but someone else was used to replace him on the cross. It's one of the Jewish apologetics he adopted. Do you then imply that both Miriam and Mary's fathers have same name? ![]() It's not the same and the evidence is there in Matthew. Jacob father of Joseph in OT has Isaac as his father while Jacob father of Joseph in NT has Eliezer as his father. Except you mean Isaac, a well known character in OT also bears Eliezer ![]() |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by compton11(m): 11:43am On Jul 23, 2022 |
Ojuntana:arindin,is like saying anybody from Oyo must be lineage of alaafin ![]() ![]() U ain't making sense at all. Where did u even see the rubbish u are spewing? Ojuntana:Mr counter, how do they count it? Ojuntana:and what makes your dumb ass think the sister there is blood sister? And pathetic thing is u are lying upon lies, where is evidence that Mary was from Bethlehem or was born there? Ojuntana:nah nigga im learning from u, quote the verse out where her geneology was stated. Ojuntana:the lies of Jews was exposed in the Qur'an ![]() ![]() Ojuntana:quote it out where Mary father was called hiel In the Bible. Ojuntana:in Islamic perspective I don't know cos Qur'an never mentioned name of Musa sister or name of their father just like Bible never mentioned name of Mary's father. Ojuntana:ok Explain why Joseph the carpenter was called son of David. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 3:26pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
compton11: Lol. See mumu trying diversion. Mary is a Bethlehemite from the city of David. Levites don't have city in the Bible. There were never given any portion of land as theirs. A levite is usually referred to as Levite from Ephraim for example. Nobody refers to a Levite as an Ephraimite. So your stupid reason is a capital lie. Mary is not from the Levite tribe. She is a Bethlehemite of the lineage of David. Mr counter, how do they count it?What do you want to do with it? and what makes your dumb ass think the sister there is blood sister?Explain what kind of sister it is then. Jews don't identify themselves based on familial ties. They identify based on patrilineal lines. So to claim Mary is a descendant of Aaron by sisterhood whatever that nonsense means is to fabricate your own genealogy that does not conform with Jewish standards. So you have to show proof that such genealogy exists or else na another taqiyya nah nigga im learning from u, quote the verse out where her geneology was stated.Luke 3. Go and read the lies of Jews was exposed in the Qur'anLol. The same Quran that says Mary mother of Jesus is Aaron's sister ![]() ![]() quote it out where Mary father was called hiel In the Bible.Luke 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli, in Islamic perspective I don't know cos Qur'an never mentioned name of Musa sister or name of their father just like Bible never mentioned name of Mary's father.That's because the quran badly copied the Bible. There's no way a copycat will copy perfectly you have to agree. Another fable is the absurd claim that Jesus was replaced by someone else on the cross. When Roman records clearly shows that Jesus' crucifixion indeed happened. The historicity of the crucifixion of Jesus in the Bible is not in doubt as it is well detailed and clear while that of Quran seems like a badly rehearsed fable that is incomplete and unverifiable. For example, the person who was said to replace Jesus on the cross, what is his name and where does he come from? ok The term son of David is to imply that he is of the lineage of David and not that he is biological son. Jews trace their genealogy through the male line and the descendants are always direct. No sister or brother or cousin or uncle in genealogies. That is why it is easy to spot Mary sister of Aaron as a mistake because it makes no sense whatsoever to refer to Mary as sister of Aaron, moreso when she was not from Aaron's line. Aaron was a levite. Mary was from Judah. So how will you call someone from Judah "sister" to a Levite when all the children of Israel are actually brothers and sisters to one another. You cannot ever be able to explain it. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Sunday2021: 3:43pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
ArewaNorth:you don't know what is Christianity. What is the meaning of Christian? When and where was the name Christian first mentioned |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by ArewaNorth: 6:22pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
Sunday2021: Christianity isn't a divinely revealed name given to the religion but a name created by the people of that time and given to the religion. There is no where in the Bible where your religion is named Christianity. The analogy is just like a University founded by Yakubu Gowon and named after somebody after he left office by other regimes.... |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Sunday2021: 6:32pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
ArewaNorth:hahaaaa, just tell me you don't know. The meaning of Christian is =CHRIST LIKE. The disciple of Jesus Christ were the first to be called Christian. Christianity start in the new testament. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by compton11(m): 9:39pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
Ojuntana:Your nigga ass still keep lying,give me the evidence that says Mary is from Bethlehem or born In Bethlehem, u are the using diversion for your lying ass. So it is about Levites don't have city now? ![]() ![]() So because Levites don't have a City,they can't father children again? Ojuntana:no be u say I should know how Jews count their geneology? Ojuntana:then how come Joseph the carpenter was called son of David? Ojuntana:and where did u see me identify Mary based on matrilineal line?. I still asking u since and u still ignore the question, quote the verse from the Bible that Said Mary is from Judah Tribe. Pathetic thing is that,u said Jew identify based on patrilineal line and Jesus was called son of David through his fake father ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ojuntana:your lying ass ain't telling any truth,Luke 3 was talking about geneology of Joseph the carpenter the non -real Father of Jesus. Ojuntana:sister based on geneology. Just line son based on geneology. Ojuntana:keep exposing your dumbass ass there. ![]() ![]() Joseph the carpenter was called the son of heli there. And u saw the word "son" and u still referred it to Mary? Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli Luke 3:23 Jacob or heli, which one is Joseph the carpenter father? ![]() ![]() Ojuntana: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And why would a sane man expecting the death of another man especially a good man? Ojuntana:then why is it hard for u to agree that the term so imply that she is of the lineage of Aaron and not that that she is biological sister? Ojuntana:and Aaron is a female? Ojuntana:and the one i quoted say it is biological sister? In the sense "omobinrin" or "arabinrin" if u understand Yoruba language. Ojuntana:What makes u think Mary is not From Aaron line? Do u know her relative called Elizabeth was a Levite? Ojuntana:Your dumb ass hasn't still show me where Mary from the tribe of Judah. |
Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by ArewaNorth: 10:05pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
Sunday2021: I fully well know all hose fabricated stories which arose after Jesus's death. Tell me what they call the religion before his crucifixion not after. 1 Like |
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