TheSuperNerd:
Chidera Ejuke at training with Hertha Berlin in UK.

Karlovich:
Is he still SE best midfielder with eye for passes? He rejected FC Zurich for Ponferrofina in Segundo league, SMH.

TheSuperNerd:
Darwin Nunez Hattrick vs RB Leipzig today.

In the light of the Haaland vs Nunez debate that will rage throughout 22/23 in the EPL pitching Man City folks vs Liverpool folks on this thread.... well... I can imagine this is......

...Danielnino00 right now:

Karlovich:
Is he still SE best midfielder with eye for passes? He rejected FC Zurich for Ponferrofina in Segundo league, SMH.

TheGoodJoe:


You do not know the circumstances behind it, and cannot be the better judge. It is he who wears the shoe that knows where it pinches.

Karlovich:
Zinedine Nwakali at 24 has been playing low level football yet he is the best thing since the inception of the game, not even a Ligue 1 club or Eredivisie team could sign him. Seems the shoe keeps pinching him in Segundo 2

charlesemeka85:

Karlovich:
Zinedine Nwakali at 24 has been playing low level football yet he is the best thing since the inception of the game, not even a Ligue 1 club or Eredivisie team could sign him. Seems the shoe keeps pinching him in Segundo 2

TheGoodJoe:


This is you just attacking the young man for no reason because no one called him the best.

Karlovich:
A quick question, are there no clubs outside of Segundo 2 where his natural skills can be replicated? I mean like clubs in Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland that are not even top leagues. This is you vouching for his wonderful skills suited only for Segundo

Karlovich:
A quick question, are there no clubs outside of Segundo 2 where his natural skills can be replicated? I mean like clubs in Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland that are not even top leagues. This is you vouching for his wonderful skills suited only for Segundo

daveP:
This is no more about hating. If division 2 is where you think he deserves call up from, then you don't like the SE. If na skillset, clubs should be after him, but he's not the only one with that skillset. So down the preference ladder. No analysis can sideline this. I hope he shocks all of us. Is it true he rejected Zurich?

Hmmm
Okay.

Once again, the afcon issue is not the reason he didn't get good deals. Infact it was a good noise to help get deals. Yet. ..yet.


Hype is mentioning him more than he should be. It makes it look like playing there is sweet.

daveP:
This is no more about hating. If division 2 is where you think he deserves call up from, then you don't like the SE. If na skillset, clubs should be after him, but he's not the only one with that skillset. So down the preference ladder. No analysis can sideline this. I hope he shocks all of us. Is it true he rejected Zurich?

Hmmm
Okay.

Once again, the afcon issue is not the reason he didn't get good deals. Infact it was a good noise to help get deals. Yet. ..yet.


Hype is mentioning him more than he should be. It makes it look like playing there is sweet.

Kog45:
FACTS....Kelechi Nwakili doesn't really deserve much mentions here but some still believe in him based on his U17 exploits, fact remains he is struggling and only sentiment will give him national team invitation just like Eguavoen did,nothing more......really surprised he turned down Swiss move and preferred to remain in Segunda,well to some bad decision but we need to accept that he is adult and know what suit him.Hope to see him having good performance that would attract good clubs.

daveP:
This is no more about hating. If division 2 is where you think he deserves call up from, then you don't like the SE. If na skillset, clubs should be after him, but he's not the only one with that skillset. So down the preference ladder. No analysis can sideline this. I hope he shocks all of us. Is it true he rejected Zurich?

Hmmm
Okay.

Once again, the afcon issue is not the reason he didn't get good deals. Infact it was a good noise to help get deals. Yet. ..yet.


Hype is mentioning him more than he should be. It makes it look like playing there is sweet.

Cecco90:
How far with Fabian Senninger?

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with this notion. You can find a good player in whatever league. I do not like the assumption that the position of a player determines quality.

Like it or not, Kelechi Nwakali was not stellar at the AFCON, but he definitely showed class.

The only reason he showed that class was because we had a manager who believed in his quality and was ready to overlook his situation.

If you do not get the chance, you keep falling down the ladder. It does not mean the player is not quality.

A good example is Mikel and Stephen Keshi. If Stephen Keshi did not come into the picture at that particular time, we might never have believed Mikel could play the creative midfield role with such a class. In such was that he stood out when compared to classy African midfield players at the AFCON.

If Keshi had just looked at Mikel's situation, and the history of his club football, he would have denied one of the best midfield performances of an African at the AFCON.

I prefer looking at quality, with respect to tactics and making decisions, not looking at the decisions of foreign coaches to dictate our paths.

TFLASHOGEE:
rest on this issue already blue font we have better things to talk about than dragging nwakali talks he can't seems to move pass the division 2 level with his special skill set for now,the positive thing now is that he is in a club that will probably contend for promotion this coming season and we get to see what he gives as contribution and hope for better day's for the young man

TheGoodJoe:


Which one is drag?

I am replying someone's train of thought, you are talking drag. I disagree with the idea that a player's position determines quality. That is the point.

TheGoodJoe:


Which one is drag?

I am replying someone's train of thought, you are talking drag. I disagree with the idea that a player's position determines quality. That is the point.

Kog45:
FACTS....Kelechi Nwakili don't really deserves much mentions here but some still believe in him based on his U17 exploits,fact remains he is struggling and only sentiment will give him national team invitation just like Eguavoen did,nothing more......really surprised he turned down Swiss move and preferred to remain in Segunda,well to some bad decision but we need to accept that he is adult and know what suit him.Hope to see him having good performance that would attract good clubs.

5inchdick:

Boss, I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge Jose Peseiro

TheGoodJoe:


It is even clearly stated in what you are quoting.

A natural skillset. Not hype. It is his natural talent. He dictates play from deep with long balls. Just like a player is good at final through passes. It is not hype.

TheGoodJoe:


That is pointing out Nwakali's attribute. It is a unique quality that a coach wanted. The problem is poor comprehension.

He has a unique quality. It is with respect to fitting into the plans of the coaches. I know what I type and I am sure you a lot of you misunderstand the point. You people see that as hyping the player. It is not hype. It is pointing out a uniqueness.

Saying a child has a unique gift of solving puzzles is not hyping the child. It is telling you what is good about the kid.

There is nothing in what you are posting there. No hype. It is with respect to tactics.

I want a winger that drifts into midfield.

I love a full back that has spatial awareness.

I want a defender that can play long balls from deep.

These are unique. Other players have their gifts too. It does not mean because Nwakali is good at dictating play from deep, that means he is higher than Onyeka who is good at breaking the lines with his runs.

A coach who likes his midfielders breaking lines with runs over a dictator will pick Onyeka over Kelz Nwakali.

A coach who likes midfield control will pick Kelz Nwakali over Onyeka.

It goes as far as team selection with respect to dealing with the oppositions shape, strategy and tactics.

Gerrit?

Kog45:
FACTS....Kelechi Nwakili don't really deserves much mentions here but some still believe in him based on his U17 exploits,fact remains he is struggling and only sentiment will give him national team invitation just like Eguavoen did,nothing more......really surprised he turned down Swiss move and preferred to remain in Segunda,well to some bad decision but we need to accept that he is adult and know what suit him.Hope to see him having good performance that would attract good clubs.

Karlovich:
So those without unique gift are getting better outcomes than one with the unique gift, Onyeka moved from Denmark to England in less than 4 years. Is dictating of play only done in Segundo 2?

Karlovich:
As usual he refuses to answer the question