rvp20182:
I don't joke.This stuff that makes civil war.. deputy president has promised to do zuma on the exiting president..to investigate state capture by Kenyatta & moi families and the guy know Ruto doesn't joke either.Normally the gov would be controlling the election body but this time it's Ruto who does.So gov has little legroom in rigging except now brute force of seizing election technology.The numbers don't look good for them.So the only card left is to try sabotage the election and that what they are doing now.Ruto is going to respond to sabotage by waging war.

jl115:
great!! So you admit Kenya is just another fvcked up African sh1thole

Say what you will about SA but our elections are one of the most fair and free in the world.....this is why our problems like load shedding and state capture are only blips in our history and said party will be voted out no questions asked

Funny enough as well is the fact that both Raila and Ruto are corrupt motherfvckers.... So it really doesn't matter who wins your country is fvcked either way.... At least in 2024 our most likely president doesn't have a single blemish to his reputation

rvp20182:
South Africa is hellhole of runaway crime, racial divide, unemployment, immigration and now ANC corruption.The political risk of meltdown or civil war is low but xenophobia and looting remain.Kenya as promising as it see remain one of most fragile nation on account of it's ethnic politics and corruption. South Africa last had a transition in 1994..real transition..the rest has been Tanzania or China type ANC.Kenya is therefore slightly ahead.ANC is likely to rule for your entire lifetime

jl115:
cool story bro... The ANC has already lost just about every major metro and not once have we ever heard of vote rigging or unfair elections... Ever... In fact 95% of SAs believe our elections are fair and free... This is supported by WB research.

Secondly the ANC only got 45% in the previous elections.....they are polling less than 40% as we speak and basically losing and/or dropping significantly in every by election to date.... So yeah, they ain't going to be around after 2024 mate we ain't Kenya, you can't rig elections here... And as I said before our problems are mere blips, once the ANC is out of power SA will be on the path to becoming Africas South Korea

jl115:
cool story bro... The ANC has already lost just about every major metro and not once have we ever heard of vote rigging or unfair elections... Ever... In fact 95% of SAs believe our elections are fair and free... This is supported by WB research.

Secondly the ANC only got 45% in the previous elections.....they are polling less than 40% as we speak and basically losing and/or dropping significantly in every by election to date.... So yeah, they ain't going to be around after 2024 mate we ain't Kenya, you can't rig elections here... And as I said before our problems are mere blips, once the ANC is out of power SA will be on the path to becoming Africas South Korea

rvp20182:
Without ANC south Africa will go Kenya way ethnic and racial politics.We had KANU before and after competitive politics we went tribal completely.Democracy in heterogeneous society accentuate division.ANC might be corrupt & incompetent but it's holding together the fabric of South Africa black tribes . What might help is your parliament system but it will become very unstable because no part will command ANC figures..so it will be annual coalitions

jl115:
my bru SA ain't Kenya... They ANC ain't holding anything together, we have already seen coalition governments successfully running SAs major metros like Tshwane, Joburg, Ekurhuleni ect ect

rvp20182:
Withdraw ANC bogeyman such coalitions will not last.ANC is giving you stability but robbing you competent leadership.Small regional or tribal parties with secretarian interest will rob you stability.That is your future as parliamentary democracy in a divided country

jl115:
the ANC aren't part of those coalitions my bru... Those coalitions are run successfully by opposition parties.

Also all three of South Africas major parties are led by people from minority ethnic groups, Cyril is venda, Julias is pedi and John is English.... Our political parties are not tribalistic in anyway, in fact the only party that one could consider are more a traditional ethnic party is the IFP... And how many votes did they get? In fact there are much more Zulus voting ANC and that voted for a Xhosa or Venda president than for an IFP candidate.

South Africa is not Kenya bru... Hence we don't rank as low as you in the fragility index

rvp20182:
I know English can be a little confusing but I meant these parties unite against ANC.Once ANC is no longer a threat.They have nothing to unite against or coalesce against.Therefore you get endlessly catfights.Parliamentary systems are a dime a dozen.Kenya runs on presidential system like Nigerian or the US.Totally different systems.South Africa post ANC domination will be like Europe .. very unstable gov without the sophistry of a developed world or a kingdom

rvp20182:
South Africa is hellhole of runaway crime, racial divide, unemployment, immigration and now ANC corruption.The political risk of meltdown or civil war is low but xenophobia and looting remain.Kenya as promising as it is remain one of most fragile nation on account of it's ethnic politics and corruption. South Africa last had a transition in 1994..real transition..the rest has been Tanzania or China type ANC.Kenya is therefore slightly ahead.ANC is likely to rule for your entire lifetime

jl115:
No! What's confusing is that you think the ANC will dissappear after 2024....the fact is they will still be the largest party in SA, the opposition will still be united against the ANC until at least 2029.....what happens then is anybodies guess, either the ANC will be renewed under a new anti RET leader and will seriously challenge again in 2029 or will die a slow death if a RET leader is elected at the 2022(not likely) or 2027(very likely) national conference...

Imo if the ANC does fade into obscurity the two biggest parties in 2029 will the DA and ActionSA... Both have very economically progressive policies and either can lead SA to great things

rvp20182:
[b]Kikuyu, Kenya political risk of a meltdown just increased.[/b]You might want to evacuate your loved ones before it goes down.The economy unlike 2007 is limping so it won't survive a political crisis.It appears gov or uhuru aware that they losing are trying to sabotage the election.They know they are headed for a dog beating and then liquidation by Ruto.They don't have IEBC as Chair is Ruto guy and so are three other commissioners.This may go down into a civil war.Ruto is not one to backdown from a fight..he has crazy millions of young kalenjin warriors ready for war, Museveni and Salva kiir ready to assit.Within a week Kenya security forces will split into tribes.It could go down easily into civil war meltdown.We could join Ethiopia soon.Drunk Uhuru has to sober and realizes he has been beaten by smart Ruto.If he goes to ICC he will find Ruto lawyer Khan waiting for him.If you're in Kenya be careful this coming weeks and at least get a passport ready to escape to exile.https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-22-chebukati-police-confiscated-all-electronic-items-demanded-passwords-from-3-foreigners/

kikuyu1:

I refuse to believe it's that serious. Today I just heard from a reliable source Uhunye has been advised by NSIS he's losing. He's TWICE FKed as he's completely antagonised Ruto and MUST yet protect his dad's ill gotten gains without even minimum home ground support.
Meaning? He's yet to come to terms with the fact the cards he's holding are ishyt!
Also even the so called Deep State, who btw couldn't even head off the repeat election have largely sided with Ruto.

jl115:

- we are dealing with it, hence we back to almost no loadshedding as we speak.

- nope

- see

kwametut:
Foolish idiot sub sahara Africa has over 800million people over 600million of those live in Africa south of equator. That's excluding north African Arabs and Ethiopians. Your claim about the 200m Nigerian audience is Null and void. Other African countries are growing as well in population growth the likes of Congo, Ethiopia are closing the gap on the and will overtake you in future just like India is overtaking China in population next year. The likes of Algeria and SA are the future population giants of Africa as well.

jl115:
you can't spell Afrikaans so yeahhh...

jl115:
jezeez what a comeback

jl115:
only a small portion of your country actually has satellite TV bru.... And that market is dominated by DSTV

jl115:
Afrikaans not afrikaan....and you are the one going on about spelling

rvp2018:
Quick look of 2021 local election in South Africa
https://elections.timeslive.co.za/results?type=1091&mapType=results
It appears to me that apart from Eastern and Western Cape where Afrikaans & colored are the majority; ANC pretty much dominate South Africa - and will continue for the forseable future. EFF has better chance that DAF - because it can grow it support - the white party has no prospect amongst the majority black. But hope springs eternal.

rvp20182:
Why would anybody know the price of Kerosene?.And word of advice..try to use the English you understand.Try simple prose in old plain English until you master the language to string together something cerebral and readable

Shma:

Don't trade with feelings. English contest is not the bone of contention, old man. Take your feelings and shove into your rotten bum . If you can't stand the truth like a real man, just get the f*ck out of my mention. The HELL!

Mind you, the kerosene price has nothing to do with the submission I gave, listen before yelling like a deranged pee-brained kid. everybody knows kero is bought in a petrol station. & If you suffer from selective amnesia - or dementia, then take the pills and calm down your old age disease.


THE HELL!

samorobo:



Hahahaha shma ,I have always cautioned you about your blatant use of English. It’s often doesn’t correlate abd for the most part very incoherent. Good you are hearing it from your brother .

samorobo:


I genuinely don’t give a fvck about your language talk more or trying to actually spell it correctly. I just don’t care.

samorobo:


yeah cos people don’t really give a fvck about your SA enterprise that is half owned by Nigerians

samorobo:


yeah.
Do you have a problem with it.

samorobo:


Yeah because i dont speak it and genuinely dont give a fvck about it