rvp20182:
That is vodoo.Nakuru Raila had I think 20 percent mostly from Luhya,Luos ,Gusii and few Maasai.Nakuru is 55 percent Kikuyus,35 percent kalenjin.Laikipia is 80 percent Kikuyus,15 percent maasai and 5 percent kalenjin.Kajiado is 50 percent Maasai,35 percent Kikuyus and other tribes.Narok is 55 percent maasai and 35 percent kalenjin..10 percent Kikuyus.If you assume in Nakuru Raila will be getting 25 percent of Kikuyu and will lose half luhya...that about 13 percent minus 5 percent..he will improve by only 7 percent in Nakuru.Lee as governor is gone,so is Natembeya and Kenta because kalenjin will give solid 35 percent headstart to Ruto candidates meaning they only need 15 percent fr their tribes.Look for tribal data for each county and you can predict the election with high precision.

I pray Ruto wins, Raila is too old to lead a failed country such as Kenya.

68816419:

Wow...is this the same RVP of those dayz?

What changed.. Jubilee was okay when Ruto was working hard to deliver.That is why they won reelection with bigger mandate.

68816419:

I pray Ruto wins, Raila is too old to lead a failed country such as Kenya.

To avoid Kenya sliding to Nigeria type zoo I agree we can't afford a 80yr old sloth like Buhari

NTSA:

On the debate issue am sure the guys will catapult Wajackoya to share the same stage with Raila and Ruto just like they did during Kenya kwanzas manifesto launch where they were sharing the screen/airtime .Raila can't take on Ruto 1on 1 .

The mainstream media are owned by Raila friend Macharia, Kenyattas,Mois and Agha Khan..they are in dilemma now as their candidate has bailed out.Citizen will likely split screen with Raila town hall.The rest may have show Ruto alone.It will be hard to change the rules because Wajackoyah didn't make 5 percent threshold

Saddamochieng00:
I don't know where our azimio friends in here will hide come August 9th.

Interesting

rvp20182:
Nope, I need my laptop to check the data against racial configuration.I know Pretoria has lot of white population.How are constituncies delimited..mamelodi slum � large white suburbs..is population the key or the area

My bru I gave you the exact racial make up of all the metros controlled by the DA.... Now stop crying and take your L

Kazikazi:
Yes SA is not exactly like Kenya. But kenya is your closest twin I ever seen in africa.

stfu....go post some photos of your one city country before I demolish you as well

68816419:

Wow...is this the same RVP of those dayz?

Let me digest it for you, Uhuru kenyatta decided to support Raila odinga the opposition candidate at the expense of his deputy Ruto. My guy Rvp comes from the same tribe as Ruto called kalenjins (marathoners). Suddenly everything about Uhuru turned bad including the ones he was praising him for here on Nairaland. You can dismiss him as a jilted lover who has refused to move on.

MzeeMwenyewe1:

Let me digest it for you, Uhuru kenyatta decided to support Raila odinga the opposition candidate at the expense of his deputy Ruto. My guy Rvp comes from the same tribe as Ruto called kalenjins (marathoners). Suddenly everything about Uhuru turned bad including the ones he was praising him for here on Nairaland. You can dismiss him as a jilted lover who has refused to move on.

We know uhuru abilities.He cannot run things.We were electing Ruto to help him.You can tell from where we are that Jubilee in 2nd term has failed.Big 4 is epic failure.BBI epic failure.Raila project has failed and now they are desperately trying to mess IEBC and possibly invite a civil war.Ruto abilities are well known.That is why he has taken Uhuru state machinery n Raila combined..and nailed them on the wall.Uhuru has very low popularity in his own village because he has failed.Are his own Kikuyu jilted too? A failure is a failure

jl115:

My bru I gave you the exact racial make up of all the metros controlled by the DA.... Now stop crying and take your L

You can't wait..I want you to overlay white settlement and DA popularity versus black &ANC.The metro DA got votes.. have white population in significant number including Pretoria.Your politics is as ethnic as Kenya if we call you a white African.

rvp20182:
We know uhuru abilities.He cannot run things.We were electing Ruto to help him.You can tell from where we are that Jubilee in 2nd term has failed.Big 4 is epic failure.BBI epic failure.Raila project has failed and now they are desperately trying to mess IEBC and possibly invite a civil war.Ruto abilities are well known.That is why he has taken Uhuru state machinery n Raila combined..and nailed them on the wall.Uhuru has very low popularity in his own village because he has failed.Are his own Kikuyu jilted too? A failure is a failure

Big 4 agenda failled even before it kick started because it was hot air. The first term of Jubilee was a reminiscence of moi days, the levels of corruption and state capture were that of a typical Shithole failed state.

1. Jubilee didnt built a single stadium.

2. Jubilee built a jointed Sgr with 1960 diesel trains at inflated cost to Nowhere.

3. Galana kulalu failed miserably, just setting up an irrigation scheme was too much for Ruto. Why?! Because he wanted to import maize at higher price.

4. Our economy was at the verge of recession.

5. We were losing 2B daily which Uhuru said his hands were tied. You already know by who because all the scandals eminated from parastatals headed by kalenjins.


I can go on and on but i dont want to expose too much for the sake of this thread. Your only re- battle will be, "but but they won by 54% in 2017" forgetting the Supreme court ruling.

NTSA:

It's amusing that Raila has never quoted infotrack or TIFA in his campaigns probably because he knows the results are manipulated....when he was lamenting on how he has lost ground in Bungoma he was quoting Intel Research Solutions (IRS) which not many know about.

Raila doesn't have to worry about opinion polls. That is the work of desperate Kenya kwisha goons - who uses everything to have an opinion. Raila didn't bother about it even when UDA was at the Top. That shows the highest level of confidence within the winning team( AZIMIO).

rvp2018:
You can't wait..I want you to overlay white settlement and DA popularity versus black &ANC.The metro DA got votes.. have white population in significant number including Pretoria.Your politics is as ethnic as Kenya if we call you a white African.

How is 15% a significant white population in any of those Metros?? Even if they got all the white votes in those metros(which they didn't because the FF+ and ActionSA got at least 20-30% of the white vote between them) then at least 50% of their vote had to be none white..... In reality around 75% of the DAs voters are none white

68816419:

I pray Ruto wins, Raila is too old to lead a failed country such as Kenya.

Raila has a team of intellectuals --- who will help him run the country.
Raila is still sober-minded, with Kenya's best interest at heart.
Raila will not allow looting spree to happen in the country.
Raila will build this country, both economically and infrastructurally... By the time you sort out your legal requirementt, which resulted to your deportation, you'll find a safe haven for yourself.

In other news, I'm hearing that Ruto wants a 54% win as he did in 2017. He's planning to rig the votes. But this time around, he's tickling the balls of a lion. The deep state won't allow this to happen.

68816419:

I pray Ruto wins, Raila is too old to lead a failed country such as Kenya.

Raila fought for Multi- partism during when Ruto was in bed with dictator Moi, Moi is also kalenjin like Rvp.

Raila fought for the second liberation of our country while Ruto and Uhuru were hiding behind the balls of Moi.

Raila brought the New constitution to Kenya which is touted as one of progressive ones in the WORLD.

Raila was the Prime Minister when we experienced an economic boom as a country.

You cant compare Raila to your old drug lord Bola Tinubu.

68816419:

Kaz, you are a genius!

I was busy educating those fellaz

Polemics.
Let agree on some basic facts.
Jubilee 1.0 was a coalition gov btw URP(Ruto) and TNA(50)
Jubilee 1.0 delivered.
UhuRuto defended it's track record and it 2017 increase it's mandate from 51 to 55 percent.
Most people voted Jubilee for 10K rural paved roads (that Ruto made it happen by working on new road standard for low seal volume)
and world fastest electrification (from 2.4M connection Kibaki left to now 8.1M) - again through Ruto effort.
A million tablets were delivered to all public schools including them providing electricity coverage.
Ruto stood tall in 2017 and defended Jubilee 1.0 impressive record.
It's scored almost 90% - only failure was maybe Stadias.

Let move to Jubilee 2.0
Uhuru decided to run things alone - or with help of Raila.
You now do not want us to talk about Jubilee last 5yr record or even Uhuru.
Because it's been an epic failure.
Yet Azimio is coalition btw ODM and Jubilee principally.
How do you want kenya to take you seriously if you cannot defend your last 5yr record?

People know Ruto was the brains and muscle of Jubilee 1.0 and that Uhuru was mostly drunk.
If Uhuru had controlled is inferiority complex - and agreed to allow Ruto to run things - we would be far ahead.

Ruto has said no problem - we will do Big 4 again - lets talk in 3yrs when it will be nailed.

That is why Ruto and his party UDA are now most popular in Kenya.
Uhuru is less popular than weed man Wajackoyah.
Raila is slow punctured on all the four wheels - cant move forward or backward.

In two weeks time - Kenyans will decide!

Do they go for someone who is brilliant, effective, efficient go-getter like Ruto or an old tard who can barely stay awake like Raila.

All we pray is that desperados now trying to frustrate IEBC will realize they cannot win and start running to exile before Ruto gets them.

MzeeMwenyewe1:


Big 4 agenda failled even before it kick started because it was hot air. The first term of Jubilee was a reminiscence of moi days, the levels of corruption and state capture were that of a typical Shithole failed state.

1. Jubilee didnt built a single stadium.

2. Jubilee built a jointed Sgr with 1960 diesel trains at inflated cost to Nowhere.

3. Galana kulalu failed miserably, just setting up an irrigation scheme was too much for Ruto. Why?! Because he wanted to import maize at higher price.

4. Our economy was at the verge of recession.

5. We were losing 2B daily which Uhuru said his hands were tied. You already know by who because all the scandals eminated from parastatals headed by kalenjins.


I can go on and on but i dont want to expose too much for the sake of this thread. Your only re- battle will be, "but but they won by 54% in 2017" forgetting the Supreme court ruling.

His usefulness ended in 2010 with enactment of new constitution.
That is why in 2013 he got beaten by two ICC indicted people - despite being PM with half cabinet and being supported by US/EU.
It was a very shameful drubbing.

We are now on the 2nd republic - and the issues we faces - Raila is least qualified or prepared to deal with.

Governance issues are now secondary - the main issue is the economy, poverty, employment .

Tanzania can do with a Raila. Otherwise it's like ANC of South Africa - useful when they were fighting for majority rule - now useless and incompetent in face of new challenges in RSA.

MzeeMwenyewe1:


Raila fought for Multi- partism during when Ruto was in bed with dictator Moi, Moi is also kalenjin like Rvp.

Raila fought for the second liberation of our country while Ruto and Uhuru were hiding behind the balls of Moi.

Raila brought the New constitution to Kenya which is touted as one of progressive ones in the WORLD.

Raila was the Prime Minister when we experienced an economic boom as a country.

You cant compare Raila to your old drug lord Bola Tinubu.

rvp20182:
Kenyans are very resilient and hardworking.Unless Raila wins don't hope Tanzania will see Kenya soon.Ruto has the antidote for our economic morass and in three years we will be roaring like never before

Stop those stories of hardworking,no one starves while working hard
For now you should try by all means to avert the looming economic hard
crash landing since you are the next srilanka.remember your other friend Mr Ecuador is crash landing as we speak.

Shma:
In other news, I'm hearing that Ruto wants a 54% win as he did in 2017. He's planning to rig the votes. But this time around, he's tickling the balls of a lion. The deep state won't allow this to happen.

Its coming home my brother.

jl115:
stfu....go post some photos of your one city country before I demolish you as well

Why Son why u cry? Did I touch wrong nerves?

We could crash if only we dont manage our political transition. That I agree. We are limping. Ghana will probably go down before we do.

Once we elect Ruto - in two weeks time - we will avoid IMF kind of mess - by employing unorthodox methods to get out of the last three economic turbulences (COVID-19, Ukraine & Politics). I imagine many countries are similarly limping.

As for Tanzania - I havent checked lately - but did you stop cooking economic data. Magufuli was trying to manufacture growth after realizing running up and down like headless chicken was not transforming TZ but scaring everyone (investors, citizen) away.

Kazikazi:
Stop those stories of hardworking,no one starves while working hard
For now you should try by all means to avert the looming economic hard
crash landing since you are the next srilanka.remember your other friend Mr Ecuador is crash landing as we speak.

Tanzania
Busy busy with electric stuff

MzeeMwenyewe1:


Raila fought for Multi- partism during when Ruto was in bed with dictator Moi, Moi is also kalenjin like Rvp.

Raila fought for the second liberation of our country while Ruto and Uhuru were hiding behind the balls of Moi.

Raila brought the New constitution to Kenya which is touted as one of progressive ones in the WORLD.

Raila was the Prime Minister when we experienced an economic boom as a country.

You cant compare Raila to your old drug lord Bola Tinubu.

“…the quest for democracy was all just a way to acquire power or share in it”. John michuki
. We have no delusions about the political class’
It started during 1982coup attempt
Multiparty movement
2010constitution
BBI

How can bag seals be used to rig election? IEBC is the deep state. The rest are desperation. Chebukati is the guy who will announce the winner - and he has only one name - William Ruto.

What is clear - desperate Uhuru deep state - are trying to scare away Smartmatic - technology provider- so the biometric identification doesnt happen. This is Museveni playbook but Kenya is not Uganda.

I think if election goes manual - Ruto has more organizational ability to outrig the drunk Uhuru and his lackey Raila. In fact its for their best interest to have IEBC do a thorough job so their loss can be less embarrasing.

Shma:
In other news, I'm hearing that Ruto wants a 54% win as he did in 2017. He's planning to rig the votes. But this time around, he's tickling the balls of a lion. The deep state won't allow this to happen.

Tanzania
Ordinary folks

Kazikazi:
Why Son why u cry? Did I touch wrong nerves?

nope, just wondering why you are spewing your nonsense with me

rvp2018:
His usefulness ended in 2010 with enactment of new constitution.
That is why in 2013 he got beaten by two ICC indicted people - despite being PM with half cabinet and being supported by US/EU.
It was a very shameful drubbing.

We are now on the 2nd republic - and the issues we faces - Raila is least qualified or prepared to deal with.

Governance issues are now secondary - the main issue is the economy, poverty, employment .

Tanzania can do with a Raila. Otherwise it's like ANC of South Africa - useful when they were fighting for majority rule - now useless and incompetent in face of new challenges in RSA.

Thank you for admitting that Raila was once useful to this country, i cant say the same for your candidate. Kenyans will never make the same mistake of electing a kalenjin president or deputy, tried and tested.

The reason why UhuRuto won 2013 election is not because they were the most competent, or because they had the best track record or because they were the cleanest NO!! Its because of Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.

As long as Kikuyus vote unanimously, they can make any one the president even murderers and thieves like UhuRuto. This time like 1997 the tyranny of numbers will be broken and Ruto will suffer the consequences.

Kalenjins alone cant make Ruto president because they dont have numbers, i personally have only met less than 10 kales in my life.

Ruto has elevated Kenya politics into a semblance of issue-based campaign with a coherent national message and coalition of the poor - Hustler Nation or Revolution.

Anyway I see you're really angling to get tribal.

When it come to Kalenjin. I think you underrate us despite the fact that Kalenjin has been president or vice/deputy president for a combined period of almost 50yrs out of 60yrs Kenya has been independent. Moi did 10yrs as Vice and 24 as deputy. Ruto is just finishing his 10yrs.We are 2nd to Kikuyus when it come to being political force - we have a say in about 11 counties - we will have deputy governor or governor in those 11 counties - kikuyus come 2nd with 9 I think. The rest struggle with 4-5 or 1. We have about 50 Mps - Kikuyus are about 5 more than us. Kalenjin and Kikuyu dominate gov circles - so called systems and deep state. Raila become something - PM - because of Kalenjin.

Luos are down and out...now Kalenjin are a million plus them demographically - because of HIV-AIDS and Odinga messed up politics lead to under-development.

Once in 2009 - Kalenjin and Kikuyu decided to make peace - realpoltik I dont see how you can beat such a twin force. Uhuru has tried to undo the peace/power pact - but majority of Kikuyus - both elite and esp the masses - have refused to board.

So basically prepare for Kikuyu-Kalenjin power pact for quite sometime

MzeeMwenyewe1:

Thank you for admitting that Raila was once useful to this country, i cant say the same for your candidate. Kenyans will never make the same mistake of electing a kalenjin president or deputy, tried and tested.

The reason why UhuRuto won 2013 election is not because they are the most competent, or because they have the best track record or because they are the cleanest NO!! Its because of Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.

As long as Kikuyus vote unanimously, they can make any one the president even murderers and thieves like UhuRuto. This time like 1997 the tyranny of numbers will be broken and Ruto will suffer the consequences.

Kalenjins alone cant make Ruto president because they dont have numbers, i personally have only met less than 10 kales in my life.

rvp2018:
How can bag seals be used to rig election? IEBC is the deep state. The rest are desperation. Chebukati is the guy who will announce the winner - and he has only one name - William Ruto.

What is clear - desperate Uhuru deep state - are trying to scare away Smartmatic - technology provider- so the biometric identification doesnt happen. This is Museveni playbook but Kenya is not Uganda.

I think if election goes manual - Ruto has more organizational ability to outrig the drunk Uhuru and his lackey Raila. In fact its for their best interest to have IEBC do a thorough job so their loss can be less embarrasing.

vote rigging, involves illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both - stop pretending you don't know. We must allow IEBC to stay independent and do their work. Ruto is too desperate for this seat, hence why he's trying all means to secure it. IEBC is not a deep state - commander in chief is. Uhuru knows all the gangways where elections fraud happens. He will use his power to seal all the hiatus that will result to unfair game.

No vote will be stolen, no war will happen, nothing will happen past 10th August - just celebration of Raila amolo and Martha inauguration.

The lameduck is gone. He will be jobless in a fortnight. Only Chebukati will annnounce the winner and hand over the certificate. Unless Uhuru kills him btw now and 8th August - Chebukati and four commissioners are firmly in team Ruto. Uhuru has 3. Chebukati is the presidential RO.

Election will be rigged by both sides whenever possible. Rigging probably underway now with recruitment of CRO, ROS and name it. Who then recruit POS who are pliable. Uhuru the drunkard slept - and woke up - to find Ruto owns IEBC. They are now having loose bowel movements as they race against time to beat IEBC.

I am sure both sides are racing to influence the POS to rig for them whenever possible, to bribe agents to look the other way, and name it.Technology - will help eliminate some of the rigging.

Uhuru has been outfoxed and outstmarted. Now his remaining card is to sabotage election - which will lead to civil unrest if not war.

Shma:

vote rigging, involves illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both - stop pretending you don't know. We must allow IEBC to stay independent and do their work. Ruto is too desperate for this seat, hence why he's trying all means to secure it. IEBC is not a deep state - commander in chief is. Uhuru knows all the gangways where elections fraud happens. He will use his power to seal all the hiatus that will result to unfair game.

No vote will be stolen, no war will happen, nothing will happen past 10th August - just celebration of Raila amolo and Martha inauguration.