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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by marti198(m): 1:34pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
Valverde played RW in UCl final and we know the team that won

If they told you Madrid with a front line of Vincius, Benzema and Valverde would win UCL would u believe it?

The same Gallagher we watched in EPL can only either get better or get forgotten like Odoi and RLC
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Valverde wey be beast na who u Dey compare to mount and Gallagher?. Chai. When u look at Liverpool’s previous front line of Diaz, salah and mane do u see any back passer there? Or u see man city’s frontline of Mahrez , foden, debruyne or even Gabriel Jesus do u see any back passer or someone who is afraid of facing their marker and beating them?. WE DONT HAVE THAT AT CHELSEA PERIOD!!!!.
Havertz go face person, Oya dribble make u go score….na lie. What of mount? The same thing. Werner nkor?…..ziyech go do 1 million step overs only to be bodied off the ball…..as bad as we may make sterling to be, he is Miles ahead of our attackers. You cannot teach a player if he doesn’t have the raw materials. Pull our stats from last season, how many counter attacks did we score?. Tuchel Dey suffer oo no go there.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:35pm On Jul 26, 2022
According to sources ,ancelotti is planning to play rudiger at LB cheesy

Not too sure sha ,they said man don’t wanna change his winning CB pair of militao and alaba

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:38pm On Jul 26, 2022
forgiveness:


I think we need players for each positions especially If we are to revert to 4 at the back else we have to continue with 3 at the back.

Who will deputies for Reece and Chilwel? We don't have.

No DMF.

Raheem is the only LW in the team.
Pulisic and Odio are RW but Tuchel had to use dem as RWB because of limited players to execute the 4 at the back formation.

We have world class CMFs.

We have good AMFs in Mount and Ziyech but they are forced to play on the wings sometimes.

We have Timo, Brajo and Bat as strikers.

What do we expect?
you forget Chelsea have Emerson, Kennedy and even Sarr to play LB, Pep used Delph a midfielder at lb one season and still won, Pep and Klopp's squad no too deep self.

When James was injured and Cesar could play RB, and Sarr LB, anyway we can buy back one of our ex cohbam RBs.

Pulisic and Odoi are wingers, they can play right but great on the left. Ziyech is an attacking midfielder, goo at RW. We have many midfielders to occupy a 3man midfield but Kovacic and Kante na prayer point. We have no consistent world class midfielder, but Mount can play in a 3 man midfield

Strikers? Which ones did Liverpool and City have last season? Even Arsenal became more of a threat with Saka and Martilleni.


What attackers need is to develop an understanding, a chemistry, so there runs, passes look timed and coordinated.

Sometimes buying players is just a waste of money and time. Madrid bought Vinicius very young, yet he is benching 100m Hazard, Fati who plays LW is far better than the 500m Barca wasted on that position. Chelsea had Abraham but buying Havertz and Lukaku seemed like a great plan, 170m. Some fans don't like Mount never did, but even if we spent 200m probably never get anyone better for the team than he is, what of Saka and Pepe, the list goes on. Buying players is good but not all the time and not soo many especially when they are not top quality.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 1:39pm On Jul 26, 2022
Bombblacks:

In my opinion there's nothing like talent or more talented in football.
Don't let Messi fanboys catch you grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 1:40pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
personnel available? We had injuries, true... But there were times when even the commentor would ask if such experiment or change was called for. Players obviously disappointed him but how many of those players were consistent in a any particular position to recover their form.

Pulisic played wing back, attacking midfield, wing, even center forward... Is that because Pulisic is versatile or Tuchel is clueless on how best to use him

Don't forget Tuchel brought out the best in Pulisic at Dortmund.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 1:42pm On Jul 26, 2022
Ellexy:
He didn't dive.
There was no contact my chief
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 1:48pm On Jul 26, 2022
Pulisic does not have any best. He was riding the bench at Dortmund under Tuchel. He was benched by every young talented winger at Dortmund ( Dembele, Sancho ). How we paid €64million for a Bench warmer with 18 months left on his contract is something I will never fully understand.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kingBolton: 1:49pm On Jul 26, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Walai

Werner under pep will stat pad at man city
How na?
Werner with his lose first touch?
I don't think pep will use a player without close control of the ball.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:53pm On Jul 26, 2022
raumdeuter:




There was contact

https://twitter.com/_Mousco/status/1551572028905373696?t=Lf5eTwY8y4GU7S6UGZEMtA&s=19

No contact go and get a proper video - close shot. Divemar is his name.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:54pm On Jul 26, 2022
Trevor012:

This one is still capping nonsense comparing goal conceded of different teams in different leagues. Tell me what makes koli koli better than Maguire or Varane using their respective career.



you literally listed almost all d manure defenders ...ranking dem above koulibaly when in reality a 12th placed Crystal Palace in d epl last season conceded just 46goals BUT worldclass UNITED defenders swallowed 57 goals in 38 matches. imagine say Palace get Ronaldo?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 1:57pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
you forget Chelsea have Emerson, Kennedy and even Sarr to play LB, Pep used Delph a midfielder at lb one season and still won, Pep and Klopp's squad no too deep self.

When James was injured and Cesar could play RB, and Sarr LB, anyway we can buy back one of our ex cohbam RBs.

Pulisic and Odoi are wingers, they can play right but great on the left. Ziyech is an attacking midfielder, goo at RW. We have many midfielders to occupy a 3man midfield but Kovacic and Kante na prayer point. We have no consistent world class midfielder, but Mount can play in a 3 man midfield

Strikers? Which ones did Liverpool and City have last season? Even Arsenal became more of a threat with Saka and Martilleni.


What attackers need is to develop an understanding, a chemistry, so there runs, passes look timed and coordinated.

Sometimes buying players is just a waste of money and time. Madrid bought Vinicius very young, yet he is benching 100m Hazard, Fati who plays LW is far better than the 500m Barca wasted on that position. Chelsea had Abraham but buying Havertz and Lukaku seemed like a great plan, 170m. Some fans don't like Mount never did, but even if we spent 200m probably never get anyone better for the team than he is, what of Saka and Pepe, the list goes on. Buying players is good but not all the time and not soo many especially when they are not top quality.

I don't regard Emerson (who was brought in as a LWB), Kennedy (average player) and Sar (inexperience though improving) as quality and competitive back up for Chilwel. We need competition in the team to bring out the best in the regular players.

Apzi gassed out several times he played there.

No doubt they are wingers but we need one more.

We are not Mancity neither are we Arsenal. Besides, these players played regularly in their position.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 1:59pm On Jul 26, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:




you literally listed almost all d manure defenders ...ranking dem above koulibaly when in reality a 12th placed Crystal Palace in d epl last season conceded just 46goals BUT worldclass UNITED defenders swallowed 57 goals in 38 matches. imagine say Palace get Ronaldo?
You are still be beating around the bush. Just tell me what koli koli has done in his career that makes him better than Varane, Maguire or even Lindelof. You can pick any one you want.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:59pm On Jul 26, 2022
marti198:
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Valverde wey be beast na who u Dey compare to mount and Gallagher?. Chai. When u look at Liverpool’s previous front line of Diaz, salah and mane do u see any back passer there? Or u see man city’s frontline of Mahrez , foden, debruyne or even Gabriel Jesus do u see any back passer or someone who is afraid of facing their marker and beating them?. WE DONT HAVE THAT AT CHELSEA PERIOD!!!!.
Havertz go face person, Oya dribble make u go score….na lie. What of mount? The same thing. Werner nkor?…..ziyech go do 1 million step overs only to be bodied off the ball…..as bad as we may make sterling to be, he is Miles ahead of our attackers. You cannot teach a player if he doesn’t have the raw materials. Pull our stats from last season, how many counter attacks did we score?. Tuchel Dey suffer oo no go there.
you want a player that does everything abi. Hope you know Valverde was a ordinary risk by Zidane that worked perfectly into what you think he is now, "beast". By question was did you ever think that a CM would still boss at a RW, honestly that guy na just one weird freak, not because he is skillfull or dazzling but because he does simple things best. Something Mount does as well, difference is Madrid fans love Valverde. Lol, u mention Daiz, Salah, Mane whether they pass back, of course they do, but they have so many long balls, or through balls to run to and attack. No matter how many times those passes are intercepted they are still played. Question now is, apart from Ziyech who risks it and passes why have other dropped their level of risky passes.. maybe because of defense or Tuchel tactics

And u are comparing Salah and Mane who have played together regularly to whom, Salah met a front line that already understood each other,Mane, Coutinho, Firmino. The same players who were less careful lossing the ball under Lampard became to conservative, why? Maybe na why Tuchel wan buy better defenders

Lol they are not afraid not because they are the best dribblers, but they are not afraid to lose the ball. Counter attackers, is that Tuchel's forte? Isn't it possession? If players prepare for counter attackers they get better at it, it's not magic. The same team that conceeded a lot in freekicks conceeded fewer under a different manager??

Mount is not fast for a counter, dude is never a winger ever, same with Havertz, you want to play counter and have quick players on the bench, Werner, Pulisic, Odoi even if they miss chances all counters are not 100%

Shey Tuchel has Sterling now, let's see what will happen. Very soon the mount haters would appear, then the Havertz haters.

As for Werner, if Tuchel wants to play counter, why can't he let Werner believe he trusts him, play Werner LW I never wanted that guy as a forward for Chelsea, Sterling RW, it cannot be worse than Pedro and Willian or Havard, those two miss chances but have seasons they have 20+ G&A in all competitions

Then push Mount to midfield and Havertz plays CF at least his ball control is world class and he passes well, if Kante or Gallagher or Kovacic pair with Mount, with a world class DM, you think our attack will not shine. Look at what west ham is enjoying and they know it, they have played Rice to the ground
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:00pm On Jul 26, 2022
swiz123:


Never knew our euphemism loving brother will ever use the word "stuck" on popizaino 's favourite player, Azpilicueta.


Shouldn't you be more concerned about Alonso than Azpilicueta, i thought the former is not more deserving.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:00pm On Jul 26, 2022
forgiveness:


I don't regard Emerson (who was brought in as a LWB), Kennedy (average player) and Sar (inexperience though improving) as quality and competitive back up for Chilwel. We need competition in the team to bring out the best in the regular players.

Reece gassed out several times he played there.

No doubt they are wingers but we need one more.

We are not Mancity neither are we Arsenal. Besides, these players play regularly in their position.
the Emerson Tuchel is using as LCB in preseason grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:01pm On Jul 26, 2022
Trevor012:

I pray Chelsea continue their trophyless form for two seasons in a row. Having a Bad season does not make one a bad player.
having two ncur
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 2:03pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
having two ncur
2021/2022 trophies are the league, Fa cup and Champions league. Which of those three did you win?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 2:03pm On Jul 26, 2022
Capaldi:
Pulisic does not have any best. He was riding the bench at Dortmund under Tuchel. He was benched by every young talented winger at Dortmund ( Dembele, Sancho ). How we paid €64million for a Bench warmer with 18 months left on his contract is something I will never fully understand.

Not true. He started all games consistently for 2 seasons before he got injured in the 3rd season which limited his game time.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 2:12pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
the Emerson Tuchel is using as LCB in preseason grin

I saw it the other day. It's understandable because Rudiger has left and we need replacement. Player that can play both LCB to LB.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dostr4(m): 2:20pm On Jul 26, 2022
Dumfries news de turn belle, why is tuchel panicking with the CB of a thing when window closes at September, no matter who u purchase now, not until october till they are fully implemented into the team. Again should we blame TT for his targets/judgements or the board with their poor targets.Na tuchel sell zouma de find zouma pro max.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:21pm On Jul 26, 2022
So Frenkie would prefer a move to Chelsea

Interesting.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jpmoriarti(m): 2:22pm On Jul 26, 2022
Chaii grin cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:25pm On Jul 26, 2022
drisham:
Season go soon start and we never drop away kit,squad numbers or even offload players

Bluemann wetin dey sup bayii undecided

Why u dey ask me? grin

But we suppose get pesin for the board, just like Oga Nitrogen for Manure grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by marti198(m): 2:35pm On Jul 26, 2022
BlueAngel444:
you want a player that does everything abi. Hope you know Valverde was a ordinary risk by Zidane that worked perfectly into what you think he is now, "beast". By question was did you ever think that a CM would still boss at a RW, honestly that guy na just one weird freak, not because he is skillfull or dazzling but because he does simple things best. Something Mount does as well, difference is Madrid fans love Valverde. Lol, u mention Daiz, Salah, Mane whether they pass back, of course they do, but they have so many long balls, or through balls to run to and attack. No matter how many times those passes are intercepted they are still played. Question now is, apart from Ziyech who risks it and passes why have other dropped their level of risky passes.. maybe because of defense or Tuchel tactics

And u are comparing Salah and Mane who have played together regularly to whom, Salah met a front line that already understood each other,Mane, Coutinho, Firmino. The same players who were less careful lossing the ball under Lampard became to conservative, why? Maybe na why Tuchel wan buy better defenders

Lol they are not afraid not because they are the best dribblers, but they are not afraid to lose the ball. Counter attackers, is that Tuchel's forte? Isn't it possession? If players prepare for counter attackers they get better at it, it's not magic. The same team that conceeded a lot in freekicks conceeded fewer under a different manager??

Mount is not fast for a counter, dude is never a winger ever, same with Havertz, you want to play counter and have quick players on the bench, Werner, Pulisic, Odoi even if they miss chances all counters are not 100%

Shey Tuchel has Sterling now, let's see what will happen. Very soon the mount haters would appear, then the Havertz haters.

As for Werner, if Tuchel wants to play counter, why can't he let Werner believe he trusts him, play Werner LW I never wanted that guy as a forward for Chelsea, Sterling RW, it cannot be worse than Pedro and Willian or Havard, those two miss chances but have seasons they have 20+ G&A in all competitions

Then push Mount to midfield and Havertz plays CF at least his ball control is world class and he passes well, if Kante or Gallagher or Kovacic pair with Mount, with a world class DM, you think our attack will not shine. Look at what west ham is enjoying and they know it, they have played Rice to the ground
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I’m not saying We should be a counter attacking team for God sake. But our players should still be able to score from counter attacks for Christ sake……we do not have up to 5 goals last season in the league from counter attacks and that is just not good enough. Guardiola plays possession football too but when they counter attack u know they have a higher chance of scoring than if Chelsea were to do the same. Our players don’t have to be all rounders, but they have to be able to do the essentials of forwards to be able to take the team to the next level. We don’t even have technical players in front my guy!!!!!! We don’t have who to rely on for goals or who we know has that X factor going forward…..our attack is just there. Only havertz missed 19 big chances last season for Christ sake. You cannot deny our attack needs to be upgraded if we hope to challenge for anything properly. Pep has built his team, same with klopp but una no want tuchel to do the same? Nawa o. Tuchel knows this attack is not good enough……there is too much deadwood in this Chelsea team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:35pm On Jul 26, 2022
Trevor012:

You are still be beating around the bush. Just tell me what koli koli has done in his career that makes him better than Varane, Maguire or even Lindelof. You can pick any one you want.


Typical strawman argument... From what has Varane, Maguire & Lindelof done last season that you ranked them above Koulibaly? next you're asking me what makes Koulibaly better than Maguire or Varane using their respective career? lmfao!

clever by half...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 2:38pm On Jul 26, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:



Typical strawman argument... From what has Varane, Maguire & Lindelof done last season that you ranked them above Koulibaly? next you're asking me what makes Koulibaly better than Maguire or Varane using their respective career? lmfao!

clever by half...
I have asked you the same question ever since. You have typed nothing sensible that makes or shows your koli koli being better.


Trevor012:

This one is still capping nonsense comparing goal conceded of different teams in different leagues. Tell me what makes koli koli better than Maguire or Varane using their respective career .

Trevor012:

Koli koli in his entire career has done nothing or shown anything that makes him better than Varane, Maguire, Lindelof etc. Una go just dey hype player you barely watched all through his career. If koli koli is world class then immobile is world class as well cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 2:52pm On Jul 26, 2022
grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2022
marti198:
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I’m not saying We should be a counter attacking team for God sake. But our players should still be able to score from counter attacks for Christ sake……we do not have up to 5 goals last season in the league from counter attacks and that is just not good enough. Guardiola plays possession football too but when they counter attack u know they have a higher chance of scoring than if Chelsea were to do the same. Our players don’t have to be all rounders, but they have to be able to do the essentials of forwards to be able to take the team to the next level. We don’t even have technical players in front my guy!!!!!! We don’t have who to rely on for goals or who we know has that X factor going forward…..our attack is just there. Only havertz missed 19 big chances last season for Christ sake. You cannot deny our attack needs to be upgraded if we hope to challenge for anything properly. Pep has built his team, same with klopp but una no want tuchel to do the same? Nawa o. Tuchel knows this attack is not good enough……there is too much deadwood in this Chelsea team.
and Tuchel preferred Havertz to Lukaku grin

Attack needs upgrade again and Todd bought Sterling, how many more do you want for Tuchel? Well for me 1 more as long as Werner and Ziyech leave
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:12pm On Jul 26, 2022
popizaino:



Shouldn't you be more concerned about Alonso than Azpilicueta, i thought the former is not more deserving.

I am concerned for both. But then, you can't force any club to buy your deadwoods.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:18pm On Jul 26, 2022
andrewbaba44:
According to sources ,ancelotti is planning to play rudiger at LB cheesy

Not too sure sha ,they said man don’t wanna change his winning CB pair of militao and alaba
e go be like 3 at the back cheesy, Carvajal will push up more often then
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:20pm On Jul 26, 2022
dostr4:
Dumfries news de turn belle, why is tuchel panicking with the CB of a thing when window closes at September, no matter who u purchase now, not until october till they are fully implemented into the team. Again should we blame TT for his targets/judgements or the board with their poor targets.Na tuchel sell zouma de find zouma pro max.
lol, too many mumu decisions. Why sell Zouma with a longer contract and keep two players who may leave free. Na so we chase ball playing keeper land one season wonder Kepa

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