Ellexy:
So we got scammed

No. You played yourself. There was no scamming involved. The stats and facts were there but you couldn’t interpret them.

By you I mean the powers that be at the club.

kizolo:
United should probably just allow those contracts to run down then offer them a reduced contract. If they reject then let them go for free. Players no dey finish

If they had half a sense, this is what they should do for the guys on big wages like Rashford, shaw, Martial and co. Offer them reduced wages with a lot of performance related bonus attached.

Such that if man Utd ended up paying them big salaries, it means they've performed well and won the club trophies.

afrodoc2:


Cos of living at Old Trafford is higher than the cost of living across the road at Etihad. And much higher than in London.

LMAO.

This angle had me in stitches.

Leyqute:


So the cost of living in UK is x3 the cost of living in other European countries?

Or 1GBP = 3 EUR?

It could be - because of the tax codes in different countries.

For instance, Pogba’s salary at Juventus is €8m. His net salary in Italy is more than earning €14m in England.

Pogba wanted €20m salary in England, United offered him €14m salary but he settled for €8m in Italy.

Many people laughed at him at the downgrade but his take home pay in Italy is slightly more than what United offered him.

Karleb:


People need to understand that working in a certain country automatically improves your wage even if you are very poor at what you do.

You can't be on a $250/month on Nigeria and earn $500/month in US.

Getting x3 of his salary is a very good deal from united end.

Cost of living in countries defer abeg.

Surely, agents/players do consider cost of living when negotiating transfers, but I don't think that's a good example for this Teles deal.

Our ridiculous salary range is out there, so you don't expect players to demand low wages.

patrickmuf:
Go and check what his peers in Valencia, Sevilla, and co earn then come back and edit your post...

See you saying 70k a week isn't huge...No be every club gets money like Manchester United oh!

Lol, this is Manchester United.

I am sure Everton, West Ham, and Leicester will have higher wage bills than Valencia and maybe Sevilla.

Expert17:


Lol, this is Manchester United.

I am sure Everton, West Ham, and Leicester will have higher wage bills than Valencia and maybe Sevilla.

What is your point exactly?

patrickmuf:
What is your point exactly?

You don't expect Nairaland IT guys to receive the same pay as Twitter tech guys.

Expert17:


You don't expect Nairaland IT guys to receive the same pay as Twitter tech guys.

Isn't it the reason we are struggling to offload a lot of players?

Can you compare Telles to Zinchenko? Definitely not so, why is Telles earning more than Zinchenko? Man City are a big club too and equally rich yet they aren't stupid...

Christian Eriksen: "Before I came, I spoke to [Ten Hag] about how he sees me as a player and where he sees me. He didn't mention any players. It definitely helped [speaking to him], how he sees football."

Christian Eriksen: "Obviously, he [Ten Hag] puts the team out and picks who's gonna start, and then from there on you adapt to whoever you're playing with. But I can't see any problem playing with Bruno, no."

Christian Eriksen: "I'll be happy wherever [I play], I've always been like that. I try to adapt to the position I'm playing in and always from the outside, you play as a 10 you have to stay in the middle. It's not like that anymore, luckily."

Christian Eriksen: "It's been good, I've been taken good care of by the group and I've been getting my minutes in midweek [against Wrexham]. I'm really trying to slot in as quickly as possible to the first-team."

Tom Heaton on Lisandro Martínez: "I think he will be a top, top player for the club, I thought he was outstanding today [against Rayo Vallecano] and I'm sure everyone is looking forward to watching him play this year."

Expert17:


You don't expect Nairaland IT guys to receive the same pay as Twitter tech guys.

Does this apply to only Manchester United or other top clubs too?

afrodoc2:


He was on 25k weekly at Porto. Why did we multiply his salary by 3 just like that. He should not be getting anything more than 50k so those potential buyers are being smart. He is at best a squad player for a top team or a starter for mid-level team, and he is a full back not a striker.

Zinchenko was on 59k weekly at City with their Arab money and Telles is siphoning 78k at United.

it will always be like that when you sign for a huge club... 70k isn't huge, they just see united as maga..

patrickmuf:
Go and check what his peers in Valencia, Sevilla and co earn then come back and edit your post...

See you saying 70k a week isn't huge...No be every club get money like Manchester United oh!

premier league clubs will pay that money.. spanish and Italian clubs don't like to pay.. Brighton are about to sell cucurella, they can collect him on loan and pay his salary.. man united isn't sevilla, when you upgrade from those teams to a big club, you're salarybwill always get a huge boost. Show me a big club that signed a player from a team such as sevilla porto and earn below 70k..

afrodoc2:


He was on 25k in his former club and it was not like there was a bidding war for him. Double his salary and give him 50k. not 78k. Supposed to be is still a risk. Give him 50k and after 2 years of balling you can upgrade him to 100k sef if he is worth it.

He is not the only one. Our squad is littered with mediocre players on huge salaries. That is why we always struggle to offload players, it is not because other clubs have a conspiracy against United.

if his salary was 50k these loan clubs will still tell you to cover the salary.. we are the maga of Europe.

patrickmuf:
Bro, the team that played yesterday have not played together before so, you don't expect them to be fluid...It's not that hard to figure out that the play was going to ve disjointed but then, you jist want to drive an agenda that doesn't exist...

it's not an agenda.. eriksen will never give you the defensive work bruno will give you.. bruno has made a lot stupid passes when playing for this team, but I've maintained that he does it out of desperation when d team is not creating anything.. you guys will jump on his neck for attempting a through ball if it gets intercepted, even when he was trying to create.. it's d same thing with rashford currently, he's overthinking things hence why he's finding it hard to beat players.. he's always thinking should I pass or run. If you don't let players play their ball they will lose form and confidence

ovoP:
premier league clubs will pay that money.. spanish and Italian clubs don't like to pay.. Brighton are about to sell cucurella, they can collect him on loan and pay his salary.. man united isn't sevilla, when you upgrade from those teams to a big club, you're salarybwill always get a huge boost. Show me a big club that signed a player from a team such as sevilla porto and earn below 70k..

Can you compare Telles to Cucurella?

Telles won't earn up to 70k weekly playing for any mid-table EPL team...

TeslaFC:


Are you guys sure this guy can function as a CB in EPL?

Everything about this club is just based on Hope.

The manager has worked with him in the past, we will see how well he does in the EPL...

ovoP:
it's not an agenda.. eriksen will never give you the defensive work bruno will give you.. bruno has made a lot stupid passes when playing for this team, but I've maintained that he does it out of desperation when d team is not creating anything.. you guys will jump on his neck for attempting a through ball if it gets intercepted, even when he was trying to create.. it's d same thing with rashford currently, he's overthinking things hence why he's finding it hard to beat players.. he's always thinking should I pass or run. If you don't let players play their ball they will lose form and confidence

It's in his head already. Mark my words till Bruno leaves he's never dropping any of those nice passes with confidence even if the manager wants him to. Except he's stronger mentally than I think he is.

There's something sinister about our fanbase. There's a difference if it's your manager telling you to do something and if it's millions of Zombie-like fans parroting about how he's affecting the team adversely by his gameplay. You win games by goals and assists but somehow one dreads any comments section on any post that talks about how many Bruno's had in a year or how many chances created or what not.

Player no fit enter poor form for this club, na almost depression straight. Every popular player has a large number of fans running agendas against him. Enter poor form like this, they come out in full force.

If I was FDJ, I'd stay far away.

ChristoBam:
Player no fit enter poor form for this club, na almost depression straight. Every popular player has a large number of fans running agendas against him. Enter poor form like this, they come out in full force.

If I was FDJ, I'd stay far away.

Saying a player is erratic in possession is not being too hard on him. The players who still pose good numbers yet are not so erratic, no be human beings them be?

You can point out the flaws in players or managers you don't like but you're quick to label a fan base as toxic just because it about your favorite...

Go and see how Madrid fans behave...Bale was at the receiving end...

Visit Chelsea thread and see how they take Jorginho to the cleaners whenever he plays back...

If you know any Liverpool fan, ask him about Hendo when he was first signed and the reaction of Liverpool fans to his early horrible displays...

patrickmuf:
Saying a player is erratic in possession is not being too hard on him. The players who still pose good numbers yet are not so erratic, no be human beings them be?

You can point out the flaws in players or managers you don't like but you're quick to label a fan base as toxic just because it about your favorite...

Go and see how Madrid fans behave...Bale was at the receiving end...

Visit Chelsea thread and see how they take Jorginho to the cleaners whenever he plays back...

If you know any Liverpool fan, ask him about Hendo when he was first signed and the reaction of Liverpool fans to his early horrible displays...

I'm definitely not talking about those talking about the weakness oh his game.

You probably need to check Twitter, Instagram, Reddit. It's fvcking everywhere. I remember a question being asked on United Reddit about how terrible a player Saul(not sure) is. And first answer was 'He's just as bad as Bruno'. Even EPL reddit that's for general fans.

I think Arsenal has a toxic fanbase as well but it's still a joke compared to ours. The only player that's even relatively as slandered and attacked as Bruno in Arsenal is Xhaka. That says a lot.

patrickmuf:
Saying a player is erratic in possession is not being too hard on him. The players who still pose good numbers yet are not so erratic, no be human beings them be?

You can point out the flaws in players or managers you don't like but you're quick to label a fan base as toxic just because it about your favorite...

Go and see how Madrid fans behave...Bale was at the receiving end...

Visit Chelsea thread and see how they take Jorginho to the cleaners whenever he plays back...

If you know any Liverpool fan, ask him about Hendo when he was first signed and the reaction of Liverpool fans to his early horrible displays...

He has a point though. Our fans take it to the next level and are unnecessarily divisive.

Most Martial fans then used to attack Rashford for any little mistake and vice versa.
When Bruno got here most Pogba fans automatically hated him and most Pogba critics immediately became his Stans.

It might exist to a certain level at other clubs but we take it to pantomime levels. Hatred for the sake of hatred.

ovoP:
it's not an agenda.. eriksen will never give you the defensive work bruno will give you.. bruno has made a lot stupid passes when playing for this team, but I've maintained that he does it out of desperation when d team is not creating anything.. you guys will jump on his neck for attempting a through ball if it gets intercepted, even when he was trying to create.. it's d same thing with rashford currently, he's overthinking things hence why he's finding it hard to beat players.. he's always thinking should I pass or run. If you don't let players play their ball they will lose form and confidence

This is bullshit. Same thing Ole told the players to go out there and enjoy themselves without a proper game plan.

Every good manager out there has a system and every player under plays to the system and plan drafted by the manager.

afrodoc2:


He has a point though. Our fans take it to the next level and are unnecessarily divisive.

Most Martial fans then used to attack Rashford for any little mistake and vice versa.
When Bruno got here most Pogba fans automatically hated him and most Pogba critics immediately became his Stans.

It might exist to a certain level at other clubs but we take it to pantomime levels. Hatred for the sake of hatred.

It's gotten to the point even England fans are booing Maguire but they don't know why.

There's one popular Harry Maguire chant popular on TikTok. One of the most popular chants used for flop compilation on Tik Tok.

Ellexy:
This is bullshit. Same thing Ole told the players to go out there and enjoy themselves without a proper game plan.

Every good manager out there has a system and every player under plays to the system and plan drafted by the manager.

There's a system, but you are still allowed to express yourself.. players are not robots you program.. you play d system According to your strengths as a player..

Salah, kdb, mahrez, bernado, mane, all played their game albeit in a system, but they are allowed to express themselves..

Rashford had back to back 34+ goal and assist season for us, until last season where he never looked the same after injury.. but this fanbase, is one with favorites.. I reckon if rashford played as many games a sancho had on the left last season, he would have scored more goals self, but watch this fanbase crucify him.. coaches have a system, but you have to build a system to fit the players available at your disposal also.. ETH did not play d same type of system that got him into the champions league semi final in last season champions league, because of the players at his disposal.. he formulated a different system to suit what he had. The main thing is have a system.. under ole we didn't have one at all.. whether for the players at his disposal or not.. klopp isn't using the same system, he used at dortmund.. but 1 thing is common which is high intensity press.. the only purist currently is pep.. and he has d luxury of shipping in an out if the players don't work out..

TrebleChamp:
The manager has worked with him in the past, we will see how well he does in the EPL...

Well, hope it works out fine. The Burnley’s of this world with them tall attackers give me second thoughts.

ChristoBam:
Player no fit enter poor form for this club, na almost depression straight. Every popular player has a large number of fans running agendas against him. Enter poor form like this, they come out in full force.

If I was FDJ, I'd stay far away.

The bias