REINCARNATION
Olumba's teaching on reincarnation is one of the reasons he is reffered to as a Satanist by other Christians.He teaches that people never dies but translate to other realm of existence & later reborn into the world (much like the hindus). Infact,in one of my dream encounters he was sitting at a great white throne & i stood beside him where he said to me in a roaring voice, "DON'T BE AFRAID OF DEATH,DEATH DOESN'T EXIST"
Olumba claimed to be the reincarnated Adam,Melchizedek,Noah...Jesus. He took on the titles of Supreme Commander, Supernatural Teacher, Holy Spirit, Sole Spiritual Head of the Universe, Eternal Father. He claimed to come from the family line of Biblical Esau.
But i was yet to verify his divinity & claims during my one week at Ambo. So i humbly followed all directions of the fair guy standing at the alter up there. But something was wrong somewhere... KEEP READING

Kobojunkie:
Stop right there! There is absolutely nothing Christian of any of what you have said so far. What you described is a belief far away from what Jesus Christ taught and represents. So, understand it for what it is, a religion with absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ.

So, you joined religion in order to worship a man with one head just like the one on his neck, why again?

You are too forward. You are not even following his stories. You are just interested in seeing his wrongs.

OP, thanks for the insight.. Ever since I learnt about them, I have always had this negative feeling about them.. They do not represent christianity in any way, whatsoever.. Imagine one claiming his kingdom is here on earth, that is miles away from the foundation upon which christiandom was established.

LikeAking:


So, Make I'm dey fear?

If na occultism wetin com happen?

Religion is for mature minds.

That is your business. Not mine. I said what I said. When something is Occultic, I say it as it is. However you choose to understand it is your business.

Courz:


That is your business. Not mine. I said what I said. When something is Occultic, I say it as it is. However you choose to understand it is your business.

What is occultic?

DharmieDhrey:
OP, thanks for the insight.. Ever since I learnt about them, I have always had this negative feeling about them.. They do not represent christianity in any way, whatsoever.. Imagine one claiming his kingdom is here on earth, that is miles away from the foundation upon which christiandom was established.

At least that one was being honest that his own kingdom was here on earth. The same applies as far as your many pastors and mogs who acquire wealth and treasures here on earth using God's name to do it.

LikeAking:


What is occultic?

Google it.

Kobojunkie:
At least that one was being honest that his own kingdom was here on earth. The same applies as far as your many pastors and mogs who acquire wealth and treasures here on earth using God's name to do it.

Two wrongs don't make a right.. You should know better.. I'm not a dogmatic christian but that church is a putrid, atrocious distortion of what christianity truly represents.

DharmieDhrey:
Two wrongs don't make a right.. You should know better.. I'm not a dogmatic christian but that church is a putrid, atrocious distortion of what christianity truly represents.

The same applies to all churches out there though.
None of them in fact represent the teachings and goals of Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
The same applies to all churches out there though.
None of them in fact represent the teachings and goals of Jesus Christ.

I beg to differ.. That's a preposterous claim, I'm beginning to doubt you're a Christian after all.. Christianity, no doubt, has been infiltrated by the vices of the devil. But all the same, there are some denominations that stand only for Christ.. This shouldn't even be a bone of contention.. Byeee

DharmieDhrey:
I beg to differ.. That's a preposterous claim, I'm beginning to doubt you're a Christian after all.. Christianity, no doubt, has been infiltrated by the vices of the devil. But all the same, there are some denominations that stand only for Christ.. This shouldn't even be a bone of contention.. Byeee

What if instead, what you have always known, this since your childhood, was always the infiltrated Christianity, ruled over by the devil?

The fact is the very foundation of what you consider your churches were laid upon doctrines and traditions which Jesus Christ were lies and an abomination as far as God's Truth is concerned. So, if the foundation is laid on that which is not of Him, how can it be said to reflect His Truth in any way or form?

Kobojunkie:
What if instead, what you have always known, this since your childhood, was always the infiltrated Christianity, ruled over by the devil?

The fact is the very foundation of what you consider your churches were laid upon doctrines and traditions which Jesus Christ were lies and an abomination as far as God's Truth is concerned. So, if the foundation is laid on that which is not of Him, how can it be said to reflect His Truth in any way or form?

This will be my last response.. Most churches today are corrupted today because of the ongoing infiltration of the devil and his cohorts not that this happened by default.. Many were opportuned to learn of the true doctrines and principles of Christ while others are lost because of the new churches that are formed today as a result of the emergence of fake prophets as well as the distortion of God's word.. I hope you now get my point.. I quoted you because you made a hasty generalization as though all churches have been corrupted...

DharmieDhrey:
This will be my last response.. Most churches today are corrupted today because of the ongoing infiltration of the devil and his cohorts not that this happened by default.. Many were opportuned to learn of the true doctrines and principles of Christ while others are lost because of the new churches that are formed today as a result of the emergence of fake prophets as well as the distortion of God's word.. I hope you now get my point.. I quoted you because you made a hasty generalization as though all churches have been corrupted...

The problem isn't most churches but all your churches.

The very foundation of all your churches is built on doctrines and traditions of men, rules that have absolutely nothing to do with that Jesus Christ in fact taught and commanded of His followers. Your average Christian today cries out "heresy" when confronted with some of the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained right there in what are the 4 Gospels and for good reason. They have been raised and fed in your churches with doctrines and traditions that are of men and not of Jesus Christ. These doctrines and traditions were cast down as lies by Jesus Christ which deceive people away from following the Truth of God. What Jesus Christ said is that you cannot follow the rules of men and that of God at the same time, and so by following these ideas that are of your churches instead of God's Law as stipulated by Jesus Christ, you do not follow Jesus Christ but instead your pastors and mogs and their kingdoms here on earth.

UNDERSTANDING A TRUTH SEEKER
A truth seeker is someone who is tired of useless religious tradition & dogma & has decided to search without any bias
& find out what is real & true. A truth seeker doesn't accept stories & fairy tales, he looks for proves. A truth seeker is not looking 4 religion, he looks for God/ultimate reality. A truth seeker isn't satisfied with beliefs,he wants experience. During my adventure in the BCS, I was (still is) a truth seeker.

Hmmnnn...! I do believe that when christ returns, people will certainly be harvested by Him. There are still God's people. Its still the same as the time of Prophet Eliyahu (elijah) where he claimed to be the only true prophet left in Isra-el but GOD Told him there are thousands left.

Lighthouse50:
Hmmnnn...! I do believe that when christ returns, people will certainly be harvested by Him. There are still God's people. Its still the same as the time of Prophet Eliyahu (elijah) where he claimed to be the only true prophet left in Isra-el but GOD Told him there are thousands left.

King Saul was anointed by God, was he not? Also, Cyrus, a non-believer, was also anointed by God to do God's Will. Yet none of these men were "harvested" by God in the end. God used both men to do His work but they did not meet God's harvest criteria at the end.

Unfortunately, the problem with this idea of yours is you confuse God's selection-for-work criteria with God's harvest criteria. God will use even stones to accomplish His will here on earth but God will never lower His standard as far as what He wants of the Sons of God.

Kobojunkie:
King Saul was anointed by God, was he not? Also, Cyrus, a non-believer, was also anointed by God to do God's Will. Yet none of these men were "harvested" by God in the end. God used both men to do His work but they did not meet God's harvest criteria at the end.

Unfortunately, the problem with this idea of yours is you confuse God's selection-for-work criteria with God's harvest criteria. God will use even stones to accomplish His will here on earth but God will never lower His standard as far as what He wants of the Sons of God.

NB: THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. Saul was chosen by GOD But didnt OBEY But was so eager to sacrifice and went out of track. but before his disobedience he was a beloved. SAME Relates to someone who follows GOD AND JESUS CHRIST'S Commands now will counted holy if the end happens today.

Lighthouse50:
NB: THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. Saul was chosen by GOD But didnt OBEY But was so eager to sacrifice and went out of track. but before his disobedience he was a beloved. SAME Relates to someone who follows GOD AND JESUS CHRIST'S Commands now will counted holy if the end happens today.

Indeed, obedience is the key. Those who stand in obedience till the end will be saved, but those who refuse to obey, will not. The has been God's message from the beginning.

DharmieDhrey:
OP, thanks for the insight.. Ever since I learnt about them, I have always had this negative feeling about them.. They do not represent christianity in any way, whatsoever.. Imagine one claiming his kingdom is here on earth, that is miles away from the foundation upon which christiandom was established.

nice u, welcome

DharmieDhrey:




This will be my last response.. Most churches today are corrupted today because of the ongoing infiltration of the devil and his cohorts not that this happened by default.. Many were opportuned to learn of the true doctrines and principles of Christ while others are lost because of the new churches that are formed today as a result of the emergence of fake prophets as well as the distortion of God's word.. I hope you now get my point.. I quoted you because you made a hasty generalization as though all churches have been corrupted...

Reasoning with that lady is futile. She is eristic : someone who takes an opposing view - not because he/she has a conviction or belief - but rather for the sake of being contentious. Chances are that if you say she's a human being she'll argue with you. I've gone through some of her posts and it's pretty clear that she doesn't have a stable conviction. Many times she ends up countering herself.

Kobojunkie:
The problem isn't most churches but all your churches.

The very foundation of all your churches is built on doctrines and traditions of men, rules that have absolutely nothing to do with that Jesus Christ in fact taught and commanded of His followers. Your average Christian today cries out "heresy" when confronted with some of the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained right there in what are the 4 Gospels and for good reason. They have been raised and fed in your church's doctrines and traditions that are of men and not of Jesus Christ. These doctrines and traditions were cast down as lies by Jesus Christ which deceive people away from following the Truth of God. What Jesus Christ said is that you cannot follow the rules of men and that of God at the same time, and so by following these ideas that are of your churches instead of God's Law as stipulated by Jesus Christ, you do not follow Jesus Christ but instead your pastors and mogs and their kingdoms here on earth.

The audacity! smh... how many churches do you know?

Spiritually arrogant-cum-Religious contrarians like you have come and gone; your type have existed and will always exist. You all feel somewhat superior to other believers - correcting , countering and acting like you're the only ones that can read+understand the Bible. I pray you don't end up like the others - who were and are lone ranger Christians who think of themselves as if they are John the Baptist re-incarnated—a voice crying in the wilderness.

The thing is that they ultimately they end up creating a different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion & instead of being the sheep of Christs pasture they choose to become lone sheep and they end up as lone wolves. If everyone followed your I'm-the-one-who-is-always-correct and all-of-you-are-wrong-and-imperfect example, then local churches would not exist. Your little knowledge and big pride wont let you realize that you are defeating Christs aim & trying to alienate Him - and Christ hates that!!.

The church is the only organization instituted by Jesus for preaching the gospel and making disciples (Matthew 16:18; 28:18-20).
P.S - Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

khorsky:
Reasoning with that lady is futile. She is eristic : someone who takes an opposing view - not because he/she has a conviction or belief - but rather for the sake of being contentious. Chances are that if you say she's a human being she'll argue with you. I've gone through some of her posts and it's pretty clear that she doesn't have a stable conviction. Many times she ends up countering herself.
The audacity! smh... how many churches do you know?
Spiritually arrogant-cum-Religious contrarians like you have come and gone; your type have existed and will always exist. You all feel somewhat superior to other believers - correcting , countering and acting like you're the only ones that can read+understand the Bible. I pray you don't end up like the others - who were and are lone ranger Christians who think of themselves as if they are John the Baptist re-incarnated—a voice crying in the wilderness.
The thing is that ultimately they end up creating a different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion & instead of being the sheep of Christs pasture they choose to become lone sheep and they end up as lone wolves. If everyone followed your I'm-the-one-who-is-always-correct and all-of-you-are-wrong-and-imperfect example, then local churches would not exist. Your little knowledge and big pride wont let you realize that you are defeating Christs aim & trying to alienate Him - and Christ hates that!!.

The church is the only organization instituted by Jesus for preaching the gospel and making disciples (Matthew 16:18; 28:18-20).
P.S - Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

Again....The problem isn't most churches but all your churches.

The very foundation of all your churches is built on doctrines and traditions of men, rules that have absolutely nothing to do with that Jesus Christ in fact taught and commanded of His followers. Your average Christian today cries out "heresy" when confronted with some of the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained right there in what are the 4 Gospels and for good reason. They have been raised and fed in your church's doctrines and traditions that are of men and not of Jesus Christ. These doctrines and traditions were cast down as lies by Jesus Christ which deceive people away from following the Truth of God. What Jesus Christ said is that you cannot follow the rules of men and that of God at the same time, and so by following these ideas that are of your churches instead of God's Law as stipulated by Jesus Christ, you do not follow Jesus Christ but instead your pastors and mogs and their kingdoms here on earth.

Kobojunkie:
So, this religion is built around the worship of this OOO and his kingdom on earth or what?

It's so pathetic for you that you can't make a post without the useless imojì.
Must you be so sadistic?

Shior

GoodIsGod:
It's so pathetic for you that you can't make a post without the useless imojì.
Must you be so sadistic? Shior

Are you sane at all?

khorsky:
The audacity! smh... how many churches do you know?

Spiritually arrogant-cum-Religious contrarians like you have come and gone; your type have existed and will always exist. You all feel somewhat superior to other believers - correcting , countering and acting like you're the only ones that can read+understand the Bible. I pray you don't end up like the others - who were and are lone ranger Christians who think of themselves as if they are John the Baptist re-incarnated—a voice crying in the wilderness.

The thing is that they ultimately they end up creating a different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion & instead of being the sheep of Christs pasture they choose to become lone sheep and they end up as lone wolves. If everyone followed your I'm-the-one-who-is-always-correct and all-of-you-are-wrong-and-imperfect example, then local churches would not exist. Your little knowledge and big pride wont let you realize that you are defeating Christs aim & trying to alienate Him - and Christ hates that!!.

The church is the only organization instituted by Jesus for preaching the gospel and making disciples (Matthew 16:18; 28:18-20).
P.S - Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

Again....The problem isn't most churches but all your churches.

The very foundation of all your churches is built on doctrines and traditions of men, rules that have absolutely nothing to do with that Jesus Christ in fact taught and commanded of His followers. Your average Christian today cries out "heresy" when confronted with some of the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained right there in what are the 4 Gospels and for good reason. They have been raised and fed in your church's doctrines and traditions that are of men and not of Jesus Christ. These doctrines and traditions were cast down as lies by Jesus Christ which deceive people away from following the Truth of God. What Jesus Christ said is that you cannot follow the rules of men and that of God at the same time, and so by following these ideas that are of your churches instead of God's Law as stipulated by Jesus Christ, you do not follow Jesus Christ but instead your pastors and mogs and their kingdoms here on earth.

Kobojunkie:
You are no longer of the religion? Continue your story then so we realize where you are going with this...

I wonder how you call yourself a Christian with this behavior of yours. You are ever annoying on the Christian threads. With your useless imojì on senseless questions and attacks.

Someone is telling a story you have not allowed him to finish before judging him.

The Bible say you should learn to listen and never judge in haste.

Templee333:

sorry i'm not a brotherhood, neither am i hear to defend them. I was only explaining what i learnt from them. U can ask them abt their religion if u meet any of them

You should be able to conclude how stupid and unreasonable people are with one or two posts and questions. Ignore guys like Kobojunkie. They think weird like ....

GoodIsGod:
I wonder how you call yourself a Christian with this behavior of yours. You are ever annoying on the Christian threads. With your useless imojì on senseless questions and attacks.

Someone is telling a story you have not allowed him to finish before judging him.The Bible say you should learn to listen and never judge in haste.

Are you high or something?

terrezo2002:

You are too forward. You are not even following his stories. You are just interested in seeing his wrongs.

As if you were reading my mind. The guy claims to be a Christian but he behaves more like a sadist. The more annoying thing is the useless imojì at the end of all his posts.

Kobojunkie:
What if instead, what you have always known, this since your childhood, was always the infiltrated Christianity, ruled over by the devil?

The fact is the very foundation of what you consider your churches were laid upon doctrines and traditions which Jesus Christ were lies and an abomination as far as God's Truth is concerned. So, if the foundation is laid on that which is not of Him, how can it be said to reflect His Truth in any way or form?

Watch Tower robot.

The day people should take you guys serious as christians is when you start using your God given brains to understand the Bible. Not being under the influence of remote from New York.

GoodIsGod:


As if you were reading my mind. The guy claims to be a Christian but he behaves more like a sadist. The more annoying thing is the useless imojì at the end of all his posts.

Hmmm. He behaves like that in many of his posts. The best thing is to just ignore him.

DharmieDhrey:




This will be my last response.. Most churches today are corrupted today because of the ongoing infiltration of the devil and his cohorts not that this happened by default.. Many were opportuned to learn of the true doctrines and principles of Christ while others are lost because of the new churches that are formed today as a result of the emergence of fake prophets as well as the distortion of God's word.. I hope you now get my point.. I quoted you because you made a hasty generalization as though all churches have been corrupted...

Never argue with a Jehovah's witness. They have been remotely configured yo believe they are the only ones who is serving the true God.
No church. I repeat no church has God at the center of their beliefs. That is what the Watchtower taught them.

Arguing with them is a waste of time.

khorsky:


Reasoning with that lady is futile. She is eristic : someone who takes an opposing view - not because he/she has a conviction or belief - but rather for the sake of being contentious. Chances are that if you say she's a human being she'll argue with you. I've gone through some of her posts and it's pretty clear that she doesn't have a stable conviction. Many times she ends up countering herself.



The audacity! smh... how many churches do you know?

Spiritually arrogant-cum-Religious contrarians like you have come and gone; your type have existed and will always exist. You all feel somewhat superior to other believers - correcting , countering and acting like you're the only ones that can read+understand the Bible. I pray you don't end up like the others - who were and are lone ranger Christians who think of themselves as if they are John the Baptist re-incarnated—a voice crying in the wilderness.

The thing is that they ultimately they end up creating a different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion & instead of being the sheep of Christs pasture they choose to become lone sheep and they end up as lone wolves. If everyone followed your I'm-the-one-who-is-always-correct and all-of-you-are-wrong-and-imperfect example, then local churches would not exist. Your little knowledge and big pride wont let you realize that you are defeating Christs aim & trying to alienate Him - and Christ hates that!!.

The church is the only organization instituted by Jesus for preaching the gospel and making disciples (Matthew 16:18; 28:18-20).
P.S - Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

He is a JW. Never waste your time on such people. Every other men roaming the earth are sinners to them be they christians or not.

They are the only chosen people. The 144,000 going to heaven is from them alone.

You argue with them , you waste your precious time.