VargasVee:


Well, this is not true.

Your agent cannot agree personal terms without your own approval.

The problem is Brighton playing hardball. They insisted about Colwill to even open talks. Chelsea want to loan him or sell with a buy back clause, but Brighton is insisting on a first refusal clause, same as the one Palace bought Guehi with.

Android17:
Your agent 100% can. Why do you think FIFA/UEFA had been looking for means to break the influence and power of agents over players? Agents are there to look for the highest bidder for their clients and they will agree with any offer that matches what they want for their client. Agreeing to personal terms does not mean any document was signed. It just means Cucu will accept the wages, bonuses, perks that Chelsea are proposing in the event Brighton accepts Chelsea's bid. Simple.

VargasVee:



You disagreed with me only for your point to agree with me lol.

It all means Cucu is open to the move. If he wasn't, there'd be no agreement

Android17:
Your agent 100% can. Why do you think FIFA/UEFA had been looking for means to break the influence and power of agents over players? Agents are there to look for the highest bidder for their clients and they will agree with any offer that matches what they want for their client. Agreeing to personal terms does not mean any document was signed. It just means Cucu will accept the wages, bonuses, perks that Chelsea are proposing in the event Brighton accepts Chelsea's bid. Simple.

Expert17:


Those useless Nigeria agents that exports Nigeria Premier League players will agree personal terms and even split your wages 60 /40 or 50 /50 for like 1 - 2 years before you finally break through.

Android17:
I disagreed with you that the agent cannot accept terms without Cucu's approval. I said the agent can. If Chelsea contacted the agent and said "we know your client earns £30k/week right now but we are willing to pay him £120k/week if he signs with us. Do you agree with this term?" The agent can say yes even if same agent may have accepted £100k/week proposal from Manchester City. Frenkie DeJong's agent agreed personal terms with United since 2 months ago.

Disclaimer: the figures here are fictitious.

BlueMann:
Chelsea are seriously working on Cesare Casadei deal. He’s the next top young target after Carney and Slonina, Chelsea want to try again after opening bid rejected by Inter.

Negotiations will continue but Inter will try to keep him this summer.

#CFC

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@FabrizioRomano
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VargasVee:


Then why isn't he in Man Utd already even after they agreed a fee with Barca or his agent isn't among his camp?

How exactly is he representing the player then if he can agree personal terms without the player knowing or getting a verbal approval?

I've met agents IRL, and if you think somehow they can agree personal terms without the player's agreement, it's not true at all.

Android17:
Agreeing personal terms is an agent v Club thing. It is like asking the agent if Cucu will accept say 150K a week and the agent says yes. That is personal terms. The rumors are claiming that Brighton want add-ons to the 50M (which I agree could be a ploy to find a replacement first) but relating personal terms as proof that things are progressing means nothing. Kane agreed personal terms with City for e.g.

Android17:
We are talking past each other. I am not discussing what should be, I am saying what is. Then I also said agreeing personal terms is not tantamount to signing anything. It is an agreement. It means you like the terms. There is nothing much to it.

The reason FDJ has not left Barca is because he wants concrete assurances that Barca will pay him what he is owed before he leaves. To hide the scandal, Barca are pretending they don't want to sell the player or want more from United. We all know that.

kingBolton:

I thought agreeing personal terms means you are willingly to join the club if they can reach an agreement with your current club ? Correct me if I am wrong . I know that agreeing personal terms does not mean the current club of the player are willingly to sell like in the case of Kane and city.

kingBolton:

I thought agreeing personal terms means you are willingly to join the club if they can reach an agreement with your current club ? Correct me if I am wrong . I know that agreeing personal terms does not mean the current club of the player are willingly to sell like in the case of Kane and city.

BlaqFaze:
Even when Man Utd have assured him of paying the deferred wages Man U fans are using that wage issue to console themselves from the embarrassing pursuit of the player

BlaqFaze:
Simple... agreeing of personal terms means the player agrees to terms(salary) with his potential club...the agent is just the players representative

VargasVee:


Then why isn't he in Man Utd already even after they agreed a fee with Barca or his agent isn't among his camp?

How exactly is he representing the player then if he can agree personal terms without the player knowing or getting a verbal approval?

I've met agents IRL, and if you think somehow they can agree personal terms without the player's agreement, it's not true at all.

VargasVee:


Then why isn't he in Man Utd already even after they agreed a fee with Barca or his agent isn't among his camp?

How exactly is he representing the player then if he can agree personal terms without the player knowing or getting a verbal approval?

I've met agents IRL, and if you think somehow they can agree personal terms without the player's agreement, it's not true at all.

Android17:
Personal terms is between agent and the bidding club. The selling club plays no role in it and when it is agreed is different from when it is signed. And yes, agreeing with it means if the bidder matches what the seller wants for the transfer, the player will accept the personal terms offered by the bidder.

Android17:
Manchester United did not assure him of that as no club will do so unless Barca reduce the transfer fee which Barca refused to do.

CAPdan21:

Correct... Elruditor is capping nonsense as usual, accepting wages without consent of the player...Lmao

BlaqFaze:
You said De Jong agent agreed personal terms

Ibime:


Vieira and Petit are the runners not the sitting DM.

Dem no born Deschamps well to compare with Makelele. Na just senior man thing like how Harry Maguire dey oppress all upcoming England centrebacks no mean say na him better pass. Both Deschamps and Makelele played for Chelsea and we know the difference

kingBolton:

I think the agent will know what his client will be willingly to take and both the agent and the client would have discussed the region of his next wages when he wants move.

kingBolton:

I think the agent will know what his client will be willingly to take and both the agent and the client would have discussed the region of his next wages when he wants move.

Android17:
Players don't set wage terms for their agents it is the other way around. An agent convinces a player they can get more money for them and the player signs with the agent. Of course, in actuality, the player has more power than his agent but the negotiator is the agent. So Cucu can tell the agent if Barca ask for me I'll take 15K from them a week. He has the power to do that. But if the agent tells the player Chelsea are offering 120K for you and I agreed with it, Cucu also stays happy. Remember I said the agent can AGREE without the player's approval I did not say he can SIGN without the players approval.

kingBolton:

Basically, the agent is the players lawyer and finds the best deals for him

Android17:
Ask yourself where the bias of that article is leaning towards and there, you'll have your answer. There is no way on earth ETH keeps going after FDJ except the player is privately giving him assurances that he wants to come. Once you have that baseline you can easily decipher what is fake news and what seems more likely.

CAPdan21:

Yep... Elruditor is either ignorant or just plain lying, agents work for the player not the other way around...if it is the case of the agents commission or percentage, that is different

BlaqFaze:
Dude has publicly rejected Man U several times and you're telling me about private discussions...lol Man U has agreed with Barca, the only thing holding up the deal is just personal terms...De jong nor want Man U and he's likely to become a Chelsea player

CAPdan21:

Yep... Elruditor is either ignorant or just plain lying, agents work for the player not the other way around...if it is the case of the agents commission or percentage, that is different

Android17:
If you believe that, time will tell. I just gave you an unbiased take on events in my own honest opinion. I don't believe everything I read. I try to discern who is BSing me and who is telling the truth. From where I stand, I do not believe any news story that claims Frenkie is rejecting ETH consistently. ETH has too much pride to keep going at it. The issue is 100% on Barcelona and time will prove if I am right.