Who Is Actually Right Between Daddy Freeze And Other Nigerian Pastors When It Comes To The Issue Of Tithes In The New Testament?

Let's settle this once and for all.

For decades in Christendom, tithing has always emerged as one of the hottest topics. Its understanding and application especially as far as the New Testament is concerned has always been a matter that generates diverse views and numerous controversies.

Reasons responsible for these can be traceable to ignorance about the tithing topic, non-diligent or dishonest study and interpretation of the scriptures, twisting the scriptures to hijack the tithing pack for financial and material gain by ministers who have chosen to work unworthy of their calling, and so on.

The word tithe simply means 'a tenth part' of something. That is one part out of the ten equal parts something has been divided into.

Tithing is a practice that is relevant and is practised all through the Old Testament. But in the New Testament, the practice may not really be as seen in the old. Some who try to talk against tithing in the New Testament attempt to put tithing as part of the practices commanded under the law of Moses, which practices to a large extent have already been fulfilled by Christ and done away with in the New Testament, however, this is not the case.

Tithing was commanded under the Law of Moses, but the practice has been mentioned a few hundreds of years before the law of Moses as shown in the scriptures.

This was done by Abraham at first in his meeting with priest Melchizedek as he returns from a war he has just won.

Genesis 14:19-20 (KJV) And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

It was also promised to God by Jacob, based on some conditions.

Genesis 28:20-22 (KJV)  And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,

So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:

And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

These showed that the tithing-giving practice precedes the Law, and therefore, nullifying it in the New Testament on the basis of it being an Old Testament Law practice does not hold water.

The crux verse of the tithing practice in the Old Testament that has been the focus of many who advocate for the practice in the New Testament is from the book of Malachi.

 Malachi 3:8-11 (KJV) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

From the above scripture, Old Testament tithe advocates emphasise that you are under some sort of curse if you don't pay your tithe, and you are blessed if you do.

The problem with this theology however is that it puts the believers earning goodwill and blessings from God on the basis of the believer's tithing good performance.

This nullifies the crux point of the New Testament which is the belief that all we earn from God are gotten by Grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not on the basis of our works.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

In the New Testament books, the tithe was mentioned in 3 scenarios.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 18:12 (KJV) I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Hebrews 7:5-9 (KJV)  And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

The interesting thing to note in these 3 instances is the fact that tithing was not the crux of the matter being dwelled on in those scripture portions but was just mentioned in passing, in an attempt to make another point.

The reality is that tithing is not a topic that is given much attention in the New Testament. Giving is. We see the saints in the book of Acts selling their properties and bringing all the price of the purchase to the church to be distributed. (Acts 4:32-37)

There are a lot of instances where the apostle Paul talks about giving. (1Corinthinas 16, 2Corinthians 8, 9,) Giving to the church of God, giving to Ministers of the gospel, giving to the brethren, and so on. However, the percentage to give is not really stipulated. It is giver determined. If you choose to give ten percent, it is okay. If you choose to give more, it is good. That you give 10% or more does not mean God will love you less or more. He loves you all the same.

If you chose to call it tithe, offering, giving or whatever tag you chose to call it, whatever the percentages or amount you chose to give, it is your decision. You should just try to leverage the direction of the Holy Ghost in deciding what and how to give too.

Giving does not make God love you more or less, but it takes care of the brethren’s needs, is a token of love walk and shows your commitment to the business of the kingdom. You are blessed to bless, not the other way round.

Source: https://stm.com.ng/tithe-and-giving-in-the-new-testament/

Those of you who pay tithes/taxes in the name of Jesus Christ deny yourselves sonship with God by your acts of disobedience

24 Jesus and his followers went to Capernaum. There the men who collect the two-drachma Temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Does your teacher pay the Temple tax?”
25 Peter answered, “Yes, he does.” Peter went into the house where Jesus was. Before Peter could speak, Jesus said to him, “The kings on the earth get different kinds of taxes from people. But who are those who pay the taxes? Are they the king’s children? Or do other people pay the taxes? What do you think?”
26 Peter answered, “The other people pay the taxes.” Jesus said, “Then the children of the king don’t have to pay taxes - Matthew 17 vs 24 - 26

As Jesus Christ made clear, the Children of God do not pay taxes/Tithe in His name. So, do we ignore Jesus Christ so we can instead follow the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) instead?

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Jesus died for everything!


He does not need your money!


You can support God ministry with money, but isaying you giving God money while a mere man is spending it, is scam

Any human who believes that whoever made this universe will need ANYTHING from a human is a Big he-goat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TryP_z07aU

Only a fool will give MONEY to a human being and think in his mind that he has given the money to the creator of the universe.

Don't fall for those thieves who go about telling you the creator of the universe needs a certain percentage of your income, those thieves who claimed to be called by God to do his "WORK"

Please ask them who they are to work for GOD ?
Ask them what work they did for God when he made the universe ?

God doesn't need "shishi" from any being.

The thieves are the ones who need your money for private jets and exotic cars. And to build expensive schools and hospitals.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Jesus died for everything! He does not need your money! You can support God ministry with money, but it’s silting saying you giving God money while a mere man is spending it

What ministry did Jesus Christ specifically ask any of you to support with your money though?

Jesus Christ never asked any such of any of His followers to fund any of what you call ministries, yet you all believe that by giving free money to your pastors and mogs who are businessmen, the same men who fed you lies that God said this, and whose kingdoms on this earth you fund with your support money, you somehow do God's work. Isn't that foolishness?

Kobojunkie:
What ministry did Jesus Christ specifically ask any of you to support with your money though?

Jesus Christ never asked any such of any of His followers to fund any of what you call ministries, yet you all believe that by giving free money to your pastors and mogs who are businessmen, the same men who fed you lies that God said this, and whose kingdoms on this earth you fund with your support money, you somehow do God's work. Isn't that foolishness?

The church will pay bills.

They have electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry e.t.c

If the members don’t fund, how will a church survive?

I am against tithing, but supporting the church is not a sin and it’s not mandatory.

CoronaVirusRelo:
The church will pay bills. They have electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry e.t.c
If the members don’t fund, how will a church survive? I am against tithing, but supporting the church is not a sin and it’s not mandatory.

1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

Kobojunkie:
Those of you who pay tithes/taxes in the name of Jesus Christ deny yourselves sonship with God by your acts of disobedience
As Jesus Christ made clear, the Children of God do not pay taxes/Tithe in His name. So, do we ignore Jesus Christ so we can instead follow the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) instead?

The passage you quoted is about Taxes, not Tithes. And here is the next verse after the one you quoted:

Mat 17:27 KJV Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

You can make your point without trying to twist scriptures to say what it didn't say. If we are to go buy by your logic, then Jesus later paid the tithe regardless of the motivation.

You see why you should never lift scriptures out of context to fit into your own beliefs?

Blessings!

Kobojunkie:
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

Every religion on Earth as a gathering. And such gathering will always require funds.

Even Sango and Ogun worshippers need funds to worship

unstoppable51:
1. The passage you quoted is about Taxes, not Tithes. And here is the next verse after the one you quoted:
Mat 17:27 KJV Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

2. You can make your point without trying to twist scriptures to say what it didn't say. If we are to go buy by your logic, then Jesus later paid the tithe regardless of the motivation.You see why you should never lift scriptures out of context to fit into your own beliefs?

1. God's Tithing system is the Tax system that He set up for the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan.

2. The problem isn't me but your lack of understanding of what it is you cling so much to.

The Tithing system was set up by God as a way for the people to pay their taxes in His Name, and the temple tax is one of the taxes that was paid by the people in God's name. As Jesus Christ explained clearly in Matthew 17 vs 24 - 27, only those who are not Children of the King pay taxes/Tithes in God's Name.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Every religion on Earth as a gathering. And such gathering will always require funds.
Even Sango and Ogun worshippers need funds to worship

Did Jesus Christ tell you somewhere in His Gospel that He called you to set up a religion of any kind in His name? Did Jesus Christ explain anywhere that He needs your funds in much the same way Sango and Ifa needs your funds or something?
Again....
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ tell you somewhere in His Gospel that He called you to set up a religion of any kind in His name? Did Jesus Christ explain anywhere that He needs your funds in much the same way Sango and Ifa needs your funds or something?
Again....
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

Matthew 18:20

For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”


Hebrew 10:24-25

And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.



Acts 2:46-47

Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.




1 Corinthians 3:17


If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Matthew 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

The above does not say anything about building a place to gather in the Name of Jesus Christ, does it? Nor does it indicate permission to pay bills in Jesus Christ's name. Neither does it assign any man permission to use Jesus Christ's name in soliciting funds for paying any bills.

Please carefully examine the questions I asked. You all claim Jesus Christ is your savior and that your worship only Him, so I don't expect you to have a hard time pointing out clear answers to the questions asked.

Again...
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

4. Did Jesus Christ tell you somewhere in His Gospel that He called you to set up a religion of any kind in His name? Did Jesus Christ explain anywhere that He needs your funds in much the same way Sango and Ifa need your funds or something?

BMC zombies and Tinubu urchins need deliverance from many Nigerian pastors

Kobojunkie:
The above does not say anything about building a place to gather in the Name of Jesus Christ, does it? Nor does it indicate permission to pay bills in Jesus Christ's name. Neither does it assign any man permission to use Jesus Christ's name in soliciting funds for paying any bills.

Please carefully examine the questions I asked. You all claim Jesus Christ is your savior and that your worship only Him, so I don't expect you to have a hard time pointing out clear answers to the questions asked.

Again...
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

4. Did Jesus Christ tell you somewhere in His Gospel that He called you to set up a religion of any kind in His name? Did Jesus Christ explain anywhere that He needs your funds in much the same way Sango and Ifa need your funds or something?

I shared scriptures with you about gathering in the name of God. Do you still dispute any of those verses?

When people gather? Won’t they need funds required for such gathering?

In a world of today, a gathering of people will DEFINITELY require funds.

You cannot worship anything without expenses.

Witches and wizards require funds, Confraternity's require funds.

So it’s a basic to use funds to set up a place of worship. Is their any religion in the world that does not have a place of worship?

I don’t even get the point you trying to emphasize here. Are you saying people should not worship in one accord? Meaning you have a problem with every religion in the world.

CoronaVirusRelo:
1. I shared scriptures with you about gathering in the name of God. Do you still dispute any of those verses?
2. When people gather? Won’t they need funds required for such gathering? In a world of today, a gathering of people will DEFINITELY require funds. You cannot worship anything without expenses. Witches and wizards require funds, Confraternity's require funds. So it’s a basic to use funds to set up a place of worship. Is their any religion in the world that does not have a place of worship?

3. I don’t even get the point you trying to emphasize here. Are you saying people should not worship in one accord? Meaning you have a problem with every religion in the world.

1. Posting random verses that mention something about gatherings answers none of the specific questions which I asked you, and I am sure you are quite aware of this yourself even though you seem to feign ignorance of this.

By the way, Jesus Christ did command a gathering of His church but this in order to resolve disputes among members - Matthew 18 vs 15-20 - nothing like your typical church gatherings, and He certainly said nothing about building anything or paying bills in His name. Nor did He say anything about soliciting funds using His name. So, why do you do all these things that you do today pretending you do it for God when God never asked any of you to do these things in His name?

2. So because you assume you need funds, you then believe it is oK, this without permission from God, to use God's name for your funds-gathering campaigns?

Don't you know it is a sin against God to use His name for any of that which He never gave you permission for?

3. My point is in your desire to be like every other group and religion out there - witches and wizards, confraternities, sango, etc. - these acts you undertake in your churches and assemblies are in direct violation of God's own Law to you and that is a sin against God.

Righthussle:
I have just two things to comment.



Only a fool will give MONEY to a human being and think in his mind that he has given the money to God.

Forget tithe....
..Matt 25v35-40

In the Old Covenant the Tabernacle and Temple were built by humans so the monetary tithing was introduced to maintain the worship in the system but in the New Covenant that was not built by humans the tithing God demanded is not monetary! John 2:19

Christ is the New temple and members of the congregation are his BODY or BUILDING {Ephesians 4:12} so the maintenance of the temple doesn't need monetary tithing, it has been CHANGED! Hebrews 7:11-12

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

This is one of the matters wey no fit end in Christianity!

Cos it involves money!

When pro-tithers are ready to show us where God specifically mentioned money as part of the items to be tithed, then they should know that monetary tithing is unscriptural.




When God required money for the needs of the Temple, He specifically mentioned where all Israelite males should be levied a temple tax of half a shekel every year. That was an instance of God clearly asking for money.

Refer to Exodus 30 v 13-16 for where God gave the instruction through Moses;

13 This shall every man give, that goeth into the number, half a shekel, after the [a]shekel of the Sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs) the half shekel shall be an offering to the Lord.
14 All that are numbered from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering to the Lord.
15 The rich shall not pass, and the poor shall not diminish from half a shekel, when ye shall give an offering unto the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.
16 So thou shalt take THE MONEY OF THE REDEMPTION of the children of Israel, and shalt put it unto the use of the Tabernacle of the Congregation, that it may be a memorial unto the children of Israel before the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.

BASED ON THE ABOVE, IT WAS CLEAR WHEN & HOW GOD ASKED FOR MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPLE...




NOW LET US EXAMINE GOD'S REQUIREMENT FOR TITHES BELOW;

Refer to Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

22 Thou shalt give the tithe of all the increase of thy seed, that cometh forth of the field year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God (in the place which he shall choose to cause his Name to dwell there) the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstborn of thy kine, and of thy sheep, that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it, because the place is far from thee, where the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name, when the Lord thy God shall bless thee,
25 Then shalt thou make it in money, and take the money in thine hand, and go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose.
26 And thou shalt BESTOW THE MONEY FOR WHATSOEVER THINE HEART DESIRETH, WHETHER BE IT OX, OR SHEEP, OR WINE, OR STRONG DRINK OR WHATSOEVER THINE HEART DESIRETH and shalt eat it there before the Lord thy God, and rejoice, both thou, and thine household.
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates, shalt thou not forsake: for he hath neither part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt [e]bring forth all the tithes of thine increase of the same year, and lay it up within thy gates.
29 Then the Levite shall come, because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, and shall eat, and be filled, that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Based on the above verses, God clearly mentioned what is titheable, and money was not part of the items to be tithed.

IN CONCLUSION:
Any fraudster that comes with the excuse that money was not in use because the Israelites were predominantly farmers and cattle rearers...should read Exodus 30 v 13-16 and explain to us why God demanded money from these same Israelites...but specified crops and livestock as tithes in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

Also, I'll be waiting for scriptural references where God made tithing mandatory for gentiles as well.

Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Kobojunkie:
1. Did Jesus Christ command any of His followers to build what you call your churches in His name, to begin with?

2. Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers out to pay electricity, water, rent, transport, maintenance, laundry, etc., using His name to solicit money to do so?

3. Did Jesus Christ give any of His followers permission to use His Name in soliciting donations of any kind from others, even those who belong to His flock?

I will be glad if I know the religion you belong to of which I assume it is JW.

Nigerian pastors are wrong

Tithe is a simple issue

Why do you all pro tithers avoid Deuteronomy 14 which is the only we were Instructed on how to pay tithe in details


Why Una no dey quote that part

...

Freeze is right.

Freezer is WRONG

It is specifically stated in the new testament that giving tithe is not a sin, instead Jesus condemned those that prefer to tithe when their heart is not pure and there are other weightier issues, HE specifically said "you cannot focus on one aspect and neglect the other"

Matthew 23:23 (KJV) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 18:12 (KJV) I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Hebrews 7:5-9 (KJV) And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:


Jesus specifically said that HE did not come to abolish the LAW nor condemn it, but to fulfill it.

If you truly encountered God and you are genuine follower of Jesus without having hope in anything else, then you will know that you must give a portion to your God to show love and sustain relationship.

Daddy Freeze reads bible like a story book and a deviated a lot of young ones astray. Check the fruits of freeze and all his steps till date, you will not see the seed of God in him. Be careful with such men. Personally get close to the holy spirit.

The scriptures was authored by the holy spirit and as God spake unto those men, so it is the spirit that can bring interpretation.

Tithing is not as important as your faith, mercy, love and justice as spoken by Jesus in Luke 11.42, but he required us to do it also. At least for the babes. If you get higher in God you will submit more than that.

I can't pay 10 percent of my earning to God and I have been running like that for more than 10 years and I earn less than 100k in Lagos. But God has been very faithful.

The last time I visited an hospital for any treatment, or even ordinary malaria was 2007 June and he has removed many leakages from my life process and entire family.

By Grace, God enabled me to set a pillar for my entire family and even clan.

I did this because I want to be just in my business and my place of work. I don't have any other hope than Jesus. I am a disciple.

The Standard of the new testament is that we should drop all at the feet of the master to become a disciple.

Peter said we have forsaken all followed thee what shall we have therefore. . Matt 19.27

The apostles(that Freeze usually refer to) shared all the had amongst themselves that was why they wrought signs in the measure and manner of Jesus.

I don't have a church. . But I am speaking as a witness and a seasoned intercessor. A man has to be broken, for God to elivate him.

A man that does not have Jesus in him cannot disciple any man coz Jesus is discipler. Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ.

Do you know how much followers of priests of darkness pay to as homage on a monthly basis to sustain their evil gods.

Just 10 percents, Christians will still be debating. . Be holy, they will still not want to hear, and they want to work in power. LOL.

Alms and lendings have their sperate place.

May God expand these things.

unstoppable51:


Source: https://stm.com.ng/tithe-and-giving-in-the-new-testament/

Why do you all avoid Deuteronomy 14 when talking about tithe

That is the only place in the Bible with clear instructions on how to pay tithe ...very very detailed explanation of what tithe is but you all suspiciously ignore it

Bible says gather your produce divide by 10 and take one part to the house of the lord you choose ,if the goods are too heavy sale it convert it to money use it to buy what so ever you desire come to the house of God and eat ... anything including strong wine ...yes strong wine ,as you eat remember the pastor's and the poor

Never never no where did it say hand your tithe over to your preacher

After 7 years you use the tithe to buy food keep outside your gate so the poor can eat

But no you ignore this whole instruction and read what you feel like