Ellexy:
Eric Bailly is set to quit #mufc for Sevilla. He has been told he can leave and has been offered the chance to join Sevilla - he is open to making the move to La Liga. [@alex_crook]

This deadwood should have been sold long ago. Injury prone player who has only played 39 games in the last 3 seasons. There's zero value for the club in keeping him around. Jones and Tuan should follow suit.

afrodoc2:


Haba. How did you understand from that report? Elanga was not mentioned. Una dey extrapolate gan an o.

ETH rates Garnacho but he is unsure whether loaning him out or using him as a squad player would be best for his development. Rashford is even the first choice LW not Elanga.

If Elanga is not been considered for a loan, it means the Manager rate him more. The only player i see Garnacho displacing this season is Elanga...

Ellexy:
McFred scares me, I have PTSD already from that pair

Maybe Ten Hag will perform magic with McTom, you know like how Fergie made otu players like O'Shea very useful...

Illimitable:


You wouldn’t say that if Bailly has a British passport.

Luke Shaw has been useless for 7.5 years at United and he’s still there. Baring a period of 3-5 months that Shaw really improved his game because Telles was signed, Shaw has been awful for United.

He’s almost always injured. He cannot attack or defend. There was a time the young Brandon Williams was benching Shaw. However, at no point in his United career has he been pencilled down for a transfer either because of his incompetence or injury history.

However, Bailly is the scapegoat. United fans would rather have Bailly sold or loaned out.

Phil Jones too, United keep pampering useless British players...

ChristoBam:

Shaw was one of the players of the season just last year. What has Bailly given us in years? Not sure he can even start 5 games back to back without getting injured.

Btwn, we've got Maguire, Martinez, Varane and Lindelof all available as options. Wtf do we still need Bailly for. One of the problems we actually have is not realizing when to let go of some players.

You dey mind the guy?

Shaw won player of the year 2014 and 2021. Was in epl team of the season '21 and '14. But he's comparing him with Bailey. Some people na comedian for here.

Illimitable:


Shaw has never been one of the best players at United.

8 years of failure at United.

Robertson in two seasons has eclipsed Shaw’s entire PL career(2 years at Southampton, 8 years at United).

Maybe you just start following united. He has been recognized twice for his "Useless contributions".

When people dey move on to better things wey dey keep deadwoods.

In as much as I like Shaw, I want Malacia to take his spot. We need to move to the new generation. And we have only Shaw and Malacia left.

Main man don leave sha. Nawa.

Ellexy:
Erik ten Hag believes Fabián Ruiz can dictate play with his range of passing and provide a link between defence and attack #mulive [@jamesalanrobson]

it seems his eyes don dey Clear

Ellexy:
Wayne Rooney: “I think #mufc should let Cristiano Ronaldo go. It’s not that Ronaldo can’t play in a Ten Hag team. He can play in any team. But my personal view is that United aren’t ready to challenge for the title now…” [@TimesSport]

He go soon comot say Rooney dey jealous toxic king

Santos07:
it seems his eyes don dey Clear

Maybe

Ellexy:
#mufc are eyeing Napoli's Fabián Ruiz as a move for Frenkie de Jong continues to be held up. Erik ten Hag is determined to secure a top-quality holding midfielder and sees him as an ideal alternative if De Jong cannot be secured #mulive [@jamesalanrobson]

good. He's a proper baller. FDJ is not even better than him

Ellexy:
#mufc are eyeing Napoli's Fabián Ruiz as a move for Frenkie de Jong continues to be held up. Erik ten Hag is determined to secure a top-quality holding midfielder and sees him as an ideal alternative if De Jong cannot be secured #mulive [@jamesalanrobson]

glad there's an alternative and should have made this move a month ago. Ten Hag better moves on already. this isn't helping the preparations for the new season.

I just hope napoli doesn't play hard to get and start quoting high transfer fee

Santos07:
I just hope napoli doesn't play hard to get and start quoting high transfer fee

I expect them to. Season has started already, it will be difficult to start looking for a replacement. United will have to pay top fee, unless the player is very interested in moving to United

TrebleChamp:
If Elanga is not been considered for a loan, it means the Manager rate him more. The only player i see Garnacho displacing this season is Elanga...

Garnacho might be better rated. Playing or loaning a player is not always about rating but about giving a player games in order not to wreck his development. Some players depending on where they are in their development curve might need regular game time rather occasional minutes.

Case in point Laird is being considered for loan while AWB might be staying as back up. The manager believes Laird will benefit more from playing games rather than rotting on the bench behind Dalot. He might also think Garnacho will benefit more from regular games time elsewhere than rotting on the bench behind Rashford or Sancho.

Nobody that has seen both players will rate Elanga over Garnacho. Argentina called Garnacho to their senior camp at 17 before he had played a single senior club minute. However he MIGHT be at a critical point in his development where playing against grown men weekly is better than sitting on the bench waiting for Rashy and maybe even Sancho to get injured.

Not like I agree with the manager sha but I can see what his process is. If I were in charge I would give Laird and Dalot 50/50 game time cos with some many games this season PLUS World Cup in between there should be enough games for both of them. I honestly believe that by the end of the season Laird would have won that competition.
Garnacho just turned 18 so I would give him a full Under-23 season while he plays all Europa and League Cup games and makes EPL match day squad about half of the time.

You have to remember one last thing. What is best for the player long term might not be what is best for the club right now. It might be better for us this season to keep Garnacho in case of first team injury but better long term for him (and ultimately for us as well) to go on loan and get regular minutes.

Santos07:
I just hope napoli doesn't play hard to get and start quoting high transfer fee

Napoli plays hard to get at the best of times. Their owner get brain touch.

odizeey:

Maybe you just start following united. He has been recognized twice for his "Useless contributions".

When people dey move on to better things wey dey keep deadwoods.

In as much as I like Shaw, I want Malacia to take his spot. We need to move to the new generation. And we have only Shaw and Malacia left.

As a result of his British passport.

Any left back that has 15 career PL assists in 9 years is a useless player.

Trent makes 15 PL assists in a season when he feels like it. Shaw cannot defend, he cannot attack. Just a beefy burger body and he gets to win player of the year?

Make it make sense, please.

Ellexy:
Eric Bailly is set to quit #mufc for Sevilla. He has been told he can leave and has been offered the chance to join Sevilla - he is open to making the move to La Liga. [@alex_crook]

Eric Bailey is nt our problem.Besides injuries he always put up good performances.phil Jones v been on sick leave for number of yrs yet he still with us.Except for a little recklessness sometimes he is better dan dt slowpoke Mcquire n lindelof combine

Seems he's gonna be part of first Team this Season. I hope Iqbal is giving a chance too.

Oasis007:


Seems he's gonna be part of first Team this Season. I hope Iqbal is giving a chance too.

I hope he gets regular minutes. The Europa League and League Cup and even 5-10 league starts should be okay. If he seizes the opportunity who knows what could happen.

Right from the first week of training the reports were that ETH really liked Iqbal. It will be interesting to see what he decides cos he was our best central midfielder in pre-season but real competition might be different PLUS there are a number of senior players jostling for minutes in his preferred position.

afrodoc2:


I hope he gets regular minutes. The Europa League and League Cup and even 5-10 league starts should be okay. If he seizes the opportunity who knows what could happen.

Right from the first week of training the reports were that ETH really liked Iqbal. It will be interesting to see what he decides cos he was our best central midfielder in pre-season but real competition might be different PLUS there are a number of senior players jostling for minutes in his preferred position.

I think we need to start trusting our young players. Rashford got his chance as a Teen same as Greenwood and McTom.

I'll rather play Iqbal in Midfield than McTom though. I enjoyed him at the Preseason and honestly hope he can even give more in the League.

As for Garnacho, I'll keep him and loan/sell Elanga if I'm the Manager.

afrodoc2:


Napoli plays hard to get at the best of times. Their owner get brain touch.

The same Fabian that is going to PSG?

Funny enough, most of the midfielders we were linked to ended up in PSG

Vitinha
Renato
Now, Fabian

Illimitable:


You wouldn’t say that if Bailly has a British passport.

Luke Shaw has been useless for 7.5 years at United and he’s still there. Baring a period of 3-5 months that Shaw really improved his game because Telles was signed, Shaw has been awful for United.

He’s almost always injured. He cannot attack or defend. There was a time the young Brandon Williams was benching Shaw. However, at no point in his United career has he been pencilled down for a transfer either because of his incompetence or injury history.

However, Bailly is the scapegoat. United fans would rather have Bailly sold or loaned out.

Unfortunately Baily isn't British, I no really see why this epistle is necessary.
He is surplus to requirements and isn't British, he is injury prone, erratic, impulsive, and unpredictable. I prefer our other CBs (bar Jones who is even worse than Bailey in these things but unfortunately British) tbh.

ChristoBam:

Lol you know that's not what I said.
I said he was the best in a recent season. That 2020/21 season.

That season aside, he'd have been sold by now. But that season along with the Euros performance bought him at least one more year.

Didn't he win player of the season?

afrodoc2:


Garnacho might be better rated. Playing or loaning a player is not always about rating but about giving a player games in order not to wreck his development. Some players depending on where they are in their development curve might need regular game time rather occasional minutes.

Case in point Laird is being considered for loan while AWB might be staying as back up. The manager believes Laird will benefit more from playing games rather than rotting on the bench behind Dalot. He might also think Garnacho will benefit more from regular games time elsewhere than rotting on the bench behind Rashford or Sancho.

Nobody that has seen both players will rate Elanga over Garnacho. Argentina called Garnacho to their senior camp at 17 before he had played a single senior club minute. However he MIGHT be at a critical point in his development where playing against grown men weekly is better than sitting on the bench waiting for Rashy and maybe even Sancho to get injured.

Not like I agree with the manager sha but I can see what his process is. If I were in charge I would give Laird and Dalot 50/50 game time cos with some many games this season PLUS World Cup in between there should be enough games for both of them. I honestly believe that by the end of the season Laird would have won that competition.
Garnacho just turned 18 so I would give him a full Under-23 season while he plays all Europa and League Cup games and makes EPL match day squad about half of the time.

You have to remember one last thing. What is best for the player long term might not be what is best for the club right now. It might be better for us this season to keep Garnacho in case of first team injury but better long term for him (and ultimately for us as well) to go on loan and get regular minutes.

You wrote it very well Doc....

Oasis007:


I think we need to start trusting our young players. Rashford got his chance as a Teen same as Greenwood and McTom.

I'll rather play Iqbal in Midfield than McTom though. I enjoyed him at the Preseason and honestly hope he can even give more in the League.

As for Garnacho, I'll keep him and loan/sell Elanga if I'm the Manager.

This might be the way to go.

Iqbal has real potential. His long term injury and small size obviously initially worked against him in the academy but it is about 3 years since the injury now and his size is no longer an issue. Even then his academy performance are way better than anything McTom ever served us there.

Elanga has an uphill task to climb. Garnacho plays his position and is better. Academy products usually have about 2 years to stake their claim to a position before the next generation comes knocking on the door but Garnacho is not even allowing him his usual 2 years.

....

TrebleChamp:
You wrote it very well Doc....

It is important that the transition is handled well cos it is a critical time.

Another important decision is what to do with Iqbal, Savage, Garner, Hannibal. Apart from Savage who might benefit from 1 more year in the reserves in order to develop a bit more physically i don't think there is any benefit to giving them a few minutes here and there. It is either they are loaned out to get regular minutes or they are given the chance to play regularly for the senior team.

Benching them and waiting for McFred, Eriksen, VDB, Bruno to get injured will lead to stagnation.