68816419:
mazze, u are a professor of politics, I must confess

You are far much behind. Both candidates are at 49% each. Remember Ruto strongholds leads in submitting their results compared to Raila's. If you look at the top five counties that has submitted their presidential results, four are from Rift Valley and one from Nyeri.

GeneralDae:

Same thing happened with metering in 2020. Government spent money to ensure free metering, but what do we have instead? It's been sold all over at very huge profits.

The problem is also the Government. When there is no system or accountability in anything, that's what you get. Government have also given several loans to people at low interest rates to start their businesses in agriculture, and what did they do with them? Your guess is as good as mine, they japaed to expensive schools in the West where they now pay tuition fees.

Government should have controlled things strictly and there should have been systems and laws preventing these things. But no, they just release money or products and that's all. You don't do things that way.

A part of the reason why the naira is skyrocketing today as well as inflation is that the amount of naira pumped into the economy since 2020 COVID to kickstart the economy from the pandemic recession is not commensurate with the economic growth. Growth is just at an average of 3% yearly and doesn't justify the naira pumped into the economy to create more goods and services. So there is a massive naira cash in the economy more than before, meant to create more goods and services, but a lot of the citizens are not using the cash to do the needful due to corruption and there is no system in place by Government for check and balances, what you then get is high inflation.

bros, which day are we going to hold ourselves responsible for once, just once? Like, let's reflect on our very own doings and undoing? Why can't we ask ourselves why the market woman selling tomato in the market inflate price of her tomato and put the blame on dollar rise? Why should a landlord increase rent and claim prices of building materials are now expensive when he's not doing any renovation on the house? Let's ask ourselves why we chose to bribe an officer to make way way for us instead of going through the right process? See, all these things do not need government intervention but our conscience. We put the blame on the government a lot even when the fault is our. We put garbage into gutters and waterways, when rain fall and flood fills everywhere, we still blame the govt, why? Is it illiteracy or sheer wickedness?

Govt gives loans to the people, people didn't invest the monies on intended purposes and japaed, is it the govt fault? highest, govt won't do such interventions again if there's no headway on it and we'll still turn around to blame the govt.

Now , u still blame the govt on lack of accountability and that govt should strictly control things. Look, govt need the people for accountability too and govt can't control thing the way u put it unless we're in north Korea.

If govt pump out money for any intervention, they're pumping the money to us, if the officials are corrupt the same way we're corrupt, bros, nothing go show.

You're watching Macharia's Citizen trying to delay the inevitable - hoping the deep state can figure out something.Meanwhile the deep state are trying to figure out how to escape with their money abroad. Once Mt Kenya broke for Ruto at 80 percent - and then Ruto is doing well in Western, Ukambani and Coast...then it's over for Raila.

This wont be close.

Wuoche:


You are far much behind. Both candidates are at 49% each. Remember Ruto strongholds leads in submitting their results compared to Raila's. If you look at the top five counties that has submitted their presidential results, four are from Rift Valley and one from Nyeri.

theenchanter:
bros, which day are we going to hold ourselves responsible for once, just once? Like, let's reflect on our very own doings and undoing? Why can't we ask ourselves why the market woman selling tomato in the market inflate price of her tomato and put the blame on dollar rise? Why should a landlord increase rent and claim prices of building materials are now expensive when he's not doing any renovation on the house? Let's ask ourselves why we chose to bribe an officer to make way way for us instead of going through the right process? See, all these things do not need government intervention but our conscience. We put the blame on the government a lot even when the fault is our. We put garbage into gutters and waterways, when rain fall and flood fills everywhere, we still blame the govt, why? Is it illiteracy or sheer wickedness?

Govt gives loans to the people, people didn't invest the monies on intended purposes and japaed, is it the govt fault? highest, govt won't do such interventions again if there's no headway on it and we'll still turn around to blame the govt.

Now , u still blame the govt on lack of accountability and that govt should strictly control things. Look, govt need the people for accountability too and govt can't control thing the way u put it unless we're in north Korea.

If govt pump out money for any intervention, they're pumping the money to us, if the officials are corrupt the same way we're corrupt, bros, nothing go show.

My bro, when you know the citizens are so unpatriotic and corrupt, what do you do as a Government? you systematically create checks and balances.
If for instance, one or two people get arrested by local community police, when they throw thrash into gutters, others would think twice before doing it, and slowly it becomes a culture not to throw garbage into gutters. When you disburse cash, you should also have data and consequences for defaulters, that's how it should be done. The citizens are to blamed of course, but Government have allowed certain things to happen.

rvp2018:
You're watching Macharia's Citizen trying to delay the inevitable - hoping the deep state can figure out something.Meanwhile the deep state are trying to figure out how to escape with their money abroad. Once Mt Kenya broke for Ruto at 80 percent - and then Ruto is doing well in Western, Ukambani and Coast...then it's over for Raila.

This wont be close.

If it's so then why are UDA minions crying about Nyanza votes not streaming in as first as the ones from Rift Valley and Central? Even Itumbi has gotten some fear and that's why he has stopped updating results in his timeline.

GeneralDae:

My bro, when you know the citizens are so unpatriotic and corrupt, what do you do as a Government? you systematically create checks and balances.
If for instance, one or two people get arrested by local community police, when they throw thrash into gutters, others would think twice before doing it, and slowly it becomes a culture not to throw garbage into gutters. When you disburse cash, you should also have data and consequences for defaulters, that's how it should be done. The citizens are to blamed of course, but Government have allowed certain things to happen.

I know all these measures have been put in place by subsequent governments, but where we dey? Here in Lagos, Kai dey, lastma dey, operation this, operation that dey.... Na lie, those ones sef go collect bribe still dey look defaulters.

As for indescriminate dumping of refuse in waterways, abeg, dem need tell person that one? when person no be animal ntori oloun. If u know the number of people doing community services because of these petty mess, u'll begin to question the sanity of some people, but na lie, another goat go still commit the same offense the following day.

No be Nigerians?

theenchanter:
my brother, the government is one hell of an entity, but we the masses are also hellish in nature, omo, our profiteering tendency is of huge magnitude, we don't care whose ox is gorged and we're all the same but have different or no opportunity. If some of us are to be at the helm of national affair, omo, country go dabaru pass like this.

Why I'm i saying this?

Around February, we went to inspect some shipment of wheat, a special kind of wheat that the FG, through CBN imported from Mexico, to be planted across some northern states, because that's where the wheat will grow. These wheat is said to give 10x production of what we produce. This is not them say them say matter, I used my korokoro eyes see am, na 3 ships bring am for here, I climb to the base of the ships to see the seeds. We spent 5 days going to and from apapa when the shipment landed.

Loro kan, 400 trucks of wheat seeds found their way to be distributed to wheat farmers across the northern states to be planted and Nigeria should be easing itself of wheat issue. Omo, recently, I asked my oga about the wheats, he shook his head and said the farmers sold the seeds to some wealthy men over there and the wealthy men are exporting it to neighboring countries to be sold at profit. Omo, wheat wey FG bought expensively, wealthy men took advantage of the poor farmers and bought most in bulk from them at a cheaper price.

So I asked, sebi government know about this? they can't say they don't know.... Omo, las las, na dem dem dey do d runs.

Baba, naija don cast, I comot my hand for anything naija. So don't blame the govt on most things, they're doing their possible best but we, the citizens consciously or unconsciously constitute majority of the problems we face.

You just buttressed my point, bro. How can a government import expensive seeds and give it to hungry illiterate farmers without any form of monitoring. And no punishment for misbehavior. It's not done that way in sane climes. Even in the past in Nigeria it wasn't done that way. There used to be government agencies taking data from time to time to monitor the farmer's progress. Another option is to let a bank handle it. They know what they are doing. They just wanted to use national resources to enrich some poor northern farmers.

GeneralDae:

Same thing happened with metering in 2020. Government spent money to ensure free metering, but what do we have instead? It's been sold all over at very huge profits.

The problem is also the Government. When there is no system or accountability in anything, that's what you get. Government have also given several loans to people at low interest rates to start their businesses in agriculture, and what did they do with them? Your guess is as good as mine, they japaed to expensive schools in the West where they now pay tuition fees.

Government should have controlled things strictly and there should have been systems and laws preventing these things. But no, they just release money or products and that's all. You don't do things that way.

A part of the reason why the naira is skyrocketing today as well as inflation is that the amount of naira pumped into the economy since 2020 COVID to kickstart the economy from the pandemic recession is not commensurate with the economic growth. Growth is just at an average of 3% yearly and doesn't justify the naira pumped into the economy to create more goods and services. So there is a massive naira cash in the economy more than before, meant to create more goods and services, but a lot of the citizens are not using the cash to do the needful due to corruption and there is no system in place by Government for check and balances, what you then get is high inflation.

Exactly. You don't just throw money at problems. You have to monitor it and reward or punish people accordingly for how they use the government's resources.

rvp2018:
Azimio idiots who were saying they have only met 5 kalenjin in Nairobi - here is sixth and 7th you should met.
Generali Korir retain Karen seat and Sakaja move from senate to Governorship
And Ruto become PORK.

And all of them are young - because post-Moi kalenjin decided to go for young and educated leadership.

And below is my rural Mp - childhood friend - who just got re-elected for his second term.

DUMP ODINGA MEDIOCRITY LIKE WE DID MOI - and embrace new leadership.

Elect young and educated leaders with passion for public service

Seem you rely on social media that it's full of fake news

obaaderemi:
You just buttressed my point, bro. How can a government import expensive seeds and give it to hungry illiterate farmers without any form of monitoring. And no punishment for misbehavior. It's not done that way in sane climes. Even in the past in Nigeria it wasn't done that way. There used to be government agencies taking data from time to time to monitor the farmer's progress. Another option is to let a bank handle it. They know what they are doing. They just wanted to use national resources to enrich some poor northern farmers.

It's not really about enriching Northern farmers, it's the irresponsibility of the CBN and Federal Government. This is not the first time something like this is happening and even in the Jonathan Government.
For instance, I heard from a close friend how early on in this Government, some farm equipments and other goodies were disbursed to poor farmers in some communities in Anambra by the Federal Government. These stuffs didn't get to the farmers but were diverted by the local councils who were to direct them to the farmers. What did the federal Government do about it? Does the federal Government even know that those resources were diverted?

How do you release money to your wife or children even as a responsible father and not monitor how it's being disbursed or monitor the progress with data, and holding culprits accountable?

I have run projection - based few results released - I am projecting 15 million voted -
Ruto will win 8.3M - 55%
Raila will get 6.7M - 44%
Waja & Mwaura - 1%

Itumbi is about to go live. I have heard from Chirchir folks saying it about 57.5%. Azimio have called for presser.

Wuoche:


If it's so then why are UDA minions crying about Nyanza votes not streaming in as first as the ones from Rift Valley and Central? Even Itumbi has gotten some fear and that's why he has stopped updating results in his timeline.

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theenchanter:
bros, which day are we going to hold ourselves responsible for once, just once? Like, let's reflect on our very own doings and undoing? Why can't we ask ourselves why the market woman selling tomato in the market inflate price of her tomato and put the blame on dollar rise? Why should a landlord increase rent and claim prices of building materials are now expensive when he's not doing any renovation on the house? Let's ask ourselves why we chose to bribe an officer to make way way for us instead of going through the right process? See, all these things do not need government intervention but our conscience. We put the blame on the government a lot even when the fault is our. We put garbage into gutters and waterways, when rain fall and flood fills everywhere, we still blame the govt, why? Is it illiteracy or sheer wickedness?

Govt gives loans to the people, people didn't invest the monies on intended purposes and japaed, is it the govt fault? highest, govt won't do such interventions again if there's no headway on it and we'll still turn around to blame the govt.

Now , u still blame the govt on lack of accountability and that govt should strictly control things. Look, govt need the people for accountability too and govt can't control thing the way u put it unless we're in north Korea.

If govt pump out money for any intervention, they're pumping the money to us, if the officials are corrupt the same way we're corrupt, bros, nothing go show.

Why won't landlords increase rent anyone when government doesn't care about affordable housing for the poor? Why won't the woman selling tomato inflate prices when government is not doing anything about agricultural production? In Oyo and Osun state I am familiar with the governments do not even care at all about agriculture.
So the woman selling tomato is at the mercy of tomato farmers from the north who are also at the mercy of terrorists in the north that the government has allowed to have a field day. No matter how we look at it the buck stops at the table of the government. If they don't provide good leadership it is going to be a free for all. That's why they're paid so we'll with a lot of perks.

People throwing refuse in rivers and gutters is still the fault of government. How come we don't have waste management like they have elsewhere? If all houses are billed per month wether you give government agencies your waste or not, let me see how people will throw refuse in gutters. Makinde proposed this when he came in in Oyo state only for him to forget about it all because he wants to appear nice to electorates. Citizens bear part of the blame too but let the government play its part well for all the huge money it gets for doing nothing.

Agreed. Lot of fake news. Very good that UDA folks are conceding defeat. This something strange in Raila and his camp.

StivoH2022:


Seem you rely on social media that it's full of fake news

obaaderemi:
You just buttressed my point, bro. How can a government import expensive seeds and give it to hungry illiterate farmers without any form of monitoring. And no punishment for misbehavior. It's not done that way in sane climes. Even in the past in Nigeria it wasn't done that way. There used to be government agencies taking data from time to time to monitor the farmer's progress. Another option is to let a bank handle it. They know what they are doing. They just wanted to use national resources to enrich some poor northern farmers.

there's a monitoring team from CBN with regards to those seeds. And yes, a bulk of our agricultural products come from those hungry illiterate farmers and yes of course, the seeds should go to them.

But the problem is that these same hungry illiterate farmers sell these seeds to some group of people. u know, these same group of people or wealthy men have link with government. They know people at high places so the matter will just die down.

So the issue trickles down from the top but can be stopped at the bottom by the people, the hungry illiterate farmers.... if they refuse to sell. Just if they have an idea of the catastrophic effect they're causing themselves and the nation at large.

rvp2018:
Agreed. Lot of fake news. Very good that UDA folks are conceding defeat. This something strange in Raila and his camp.

Who is leading now bros?

rvp2018:
Itumbi is about to go live. I have heard from Chirchir folks saying it about 57.5%. Azimio have called for presser.

Continue hearing, that's why you declared Nixon Korir the winner of Lang'ata constituency even before checking what's happening on the ground. Your guy has been floored by a first timer.

rvp20182:
Mainstream media are cheating you. Ruto has won this. I have reviewed randomly the forms 34A in half the counties. Ruto has won this.
Ruto has only underperform in Garissa, Kakamega and Kilifi - everywhere else exceeding my predictions.
Mt Kenya is strongly Ruto - play 80% worse case (Kiambu) - otherwise he is 90% elsewhere
And turnout is impressive in Mt Kenya and Kalenjin.
It' over

I'm very meticulous in my research. I don't drop guesswork.
98% of form 34A puts a clean win for Azimio.
Ruto should prepare his way to sugoi.

On the other hand, my Mp, Korir is going home. That is the only UDA supporter I was vouching for.

Baba the 5th.

obaaderemi:
Why won't landlords increase rent anyone when government doesn't care about affordable housing for the poor? Why won't the woman selling tomato inflate prices when government is not doing anything about agricultural production? In Oyo and Osun state I am familiar with the governments do not even care at all about agriculture.
So the woman selling tomato is at the mercy of tomato farmers from the north who are also at the mercy of terrorists in the north that the government has allowed to have a field day. No matter how we look at it the buck stops at the table of the government. If they don't provide good leadership it is going to be a free for all. That's why they're paid so we'll with a lot of perks.

People throwing refuse in rivers and gutters is still the fault of government. How come we don't have waste management like they have elsewhere? If all houses are billed per month wether you give government agencies your waste or not, let me see how people will throw refuse in gutters. Makinde proposed this when he came in in Oyo state only for him to forget about it all because he wants to appear nice to electorates. Citizens bear part of the blame too but let the government play its part well for all the huge money it gets for doing nothing.

at this juncture, I'll have to agree with that suffering guy that many Nigerians are illiterate, but not illiterate per se but dumb, stupid and dull! And to say the least, ignorant.

Do u really think government can provide housing for 200m Nigerians? Nah, no government on earth can provide housing for all it's citizens. So, there'll always be landlords and tenants everywhere, so the excuse by landlord increasing rents on the basis of inflation and dollar rise is lame. Abeg, when dollar and inflation drops, will rents decrease?

It'll be understandable if the market woman in osun talks about insecurity as the cause of price increase but MOST TRADERS will rather put it on dollar rise, all u'll hear is dollar ti rise.

Here in Lagos, refuse vans pick household refuse once a week, the roam around the area and we pay every month. I don't know how it's been done in Oyo. But people living very close to canals won't hesitate to pour their refuse into the canals when rain is falling, what will u call that? Stupidity or craziness?

Rvp....

Come and defend the man from sugoi. It's now clear that Baba is taking this.

This a recap of 2017 when Raila folks cooked data and presented as official results; They made maDVD read it.

The DEAD GIVE AWAY - Turnout. That 12.6M was turnout as 4pm - by devices that were online and reporting - with one 1hour to go.

This rubbish I have seen Azimio pushing on twitter. The entire Azimio is run by bunch of morons who cannot add or substract...

The real turnout is around 15m...this based on projecting based on ACTUAL RESULTS

Shma2022:

I'm very meticulous in my research. I don't drop guesswork.
98% of form 34A puts a clean win for Azimio.
Ruto should prepare his way to sugoi.

On the other hand, my Mp, Korir is going home. That is the only UDA supporter I was vouching for.

Baba the 5th.

rvp2018:
This a recap of 2017 when Raila folks cooked data and presented as official results; They made maDVD read it.

The DEAD GIVE AWAY - Turnout. That 12.6M was turnout as 4pm - by devices that were online and reporting - with one 1hour to go.

This rubbish I have seen Azimio pushing on twitter. The entire Azimio is run by bunch of morons who cannot add or substract...

The real turnout is around 15m...this based on projecting based on ACTUAL RESULTS

You're forgetting one thing: system interference.
In 2017, we hijacked the system and formulated the 54/44 algorithm. MDVD and his team were so certain about the win- until midnight when the system was confiscated from IEBC.

This year, things are different. Election integrity was IEBC's top priority.

Shma2022:
Rvp....

Come and defend the man from sugoi. It's now clear that Baba is taking this.

Tell him to check if Itumbi is breathing.
UDA propagandists declared Aisha Jumwa the winner at midnight but what's happening now is surprising them.

Their results were fakery - from IEBC data. Charles Hornsby http://www.charleshornsby.com/kenya-blog -
Right now I see entire Azimio brigade are pushing the same nonsense.

Again real data should have turnout nearly or about 15m - turnout is 68% or about

Shma2022:

You're forgetting one thing: system interference.
In 2017, we hijacked the system and formulated the 54/44 algorithm. MDVD and his team were so certain about the win- until midnight when the system was confiscated from IEBC.

This year, things are different. Election integrity was IEBC's top priority.

Itumbi is excellent in his work because the first thing a propagandist need is CREDIBILITY.
Without credibility - you're just online hornbill.
He is finished doing the numbers.
He will soon go live and will present facts.
I am waiting to hear him.

Now Azimio is run by idiots like Alai and Mutai

Wuoche:


Tell him to check if Itumbi is breathing.
UDA propagandists declared Aisha Jumwa the winner at midnight but what's happening now is surprising them.

Let me repost this again ;

theenchanter:
at this juncture, I'll have to agree with that suffering guy that many Nigerians are illiterate, but not illiterate per se but dumb, stupid and dull! And to say the least, ignorant.

Do u really think government can provide housing for 200m Nigerians? Nah, no government on earth can provide housing for all it's citizens. So, there'll always be landlords and tenants everywhere, so the excuse by landlord increasing rents on the basis of inflation and dollar rise is lame. Abeg, when dollar and inflation drops, will rents decrease?

It'll be understandable if the market woman in osun talks about insecurity as the cause of price increase but MOST TRADERS will rather put it on dollar rise, all u'll hear is dollar ti rise.

Here in Lagos, refuse vans pick household refuse once a week, the roam around the area and we pay every month. I don't know how it's been done in Oyo. But people living very close to canals won't hesitate to pour their refuse into the canals when rain is falling, what will u call that? Stupidity or craziness?

It is very sad when an educated person agrees with a Stark illiterate like the suffering guy. I am sure you can't go that low. Did you know it was only in 2011 that private housing surpassed government and social housing in the UK? In Netherlands it's about 34%. Lagos hardly has any new low cost housing after the ones jakande and Gowon did in the 70s. And can you kindly point out where I typed that government should provide housing for 200m people?!!!

There are rent controls in sane countries that are strictly monitored by the government. You think if Oyinbo is left to his own devices by the government, they will also not raise rent anyhow or throw rubbish in gutters? The government needs to be upbeat about these things. In India they have the rent control edict. In states in America they have tenant landlord laws that prevent you from raising rent anyhow. And government sets the example by providing government assisted housing. And again, there's no way housing rents will not go up when there's inflation. That's standard practice. If the government runs the economy well inflation will be managed and prices and rent will go down. Some of those landlords have no other means of income. They also buy expensive food, their children go to school. Government doesn't pay old people benefits here. A woman was complaining that the 400 euro the government pays her in Germany is too small. Our own old people here, who pays them anything, abeg? So look at it properly. If a society is failing, the fault lies with the government and its policies. It's only in Africa here that you'll hear such nonsense as, 'The people are the government, let's blame ourselves first.'

Why do you think they impeach their leaders in Europe and America over what we consider as flimsy in Africa? Because the leaders are the moral compass. Not the people.

Enjoy your day,Sir.

And you have some guys who still want to play with old man emotion. I read he has gone offline - and is being hidden in house in Karen. The family need to protect the old man otherwise they are playing with emotions before they shout - Chebukati stop the count

NTSA:
Let me repost this again ;

GeneralDae:

My bro, when you know the citizens are so unpatriotic and corrupt, what do you do as a Government? you systematically create checks and balances..

Thank you. We will rather throw money at problems here. Look at the school feeding program for example.

NTSA:
Let me repost this again ;

Why post this again when its the opposite of what has happened bro? Ruto took an early lead, my good friend Rvp was celebrating overnight. Now the ground has shifted and baba is headed for a clear win.

rvp2018:
Their results were fakery - from IEBC data. Charles Hornsby http://www.charleshornsby.com/kenya-blog -
Right now I see entire Azimio brigade are pushing the same nonsense.

Again real data should have turnout nearly or about 15m - turnout is 68% or about

What are the absolute numbers from 98 % of the vote so far my statistician friend?