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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:32am On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet: If Obi was not there, I would have voted Atiku. My campaign point is that parties that failed should be changed. Anybody but APC is my goal. Obi left PDP because he was hinted that Atiku won't pick him, and maybe he had an idea of the New electoral law that may not let him be vice if Atiku chooses him. If Obi was passionate about Nigeria, and if he had such integrity, he would have gone to Labour even before now. He left barely few days to the PDP and APC primaries Let's just agree that we welcome this third force. He's almost the same as them. No difference 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:33am On Aug 10, 2022 |
the glossing over saint Obis obvious character flaws is almost cultish. 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:35am On Aug 10, 2022 |
BATIFIED LOGIC. Bat hand dey shake, leg dey shake, memory dey shake...e does not matter , he dey shout emi lokan cox FDR & Wilson ruled America 4rm d hospital bed & dey did wonders. Peter Obi is a 3rd class graduate.... Tell me d certificate wey Bill Gate, Mark Zukerberg, Elon Musk graduate with u begin turn amala. If you're not empty upstairs you should ve known that Franklin never left American soil to seek medical attention. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:37am On Aug 10, 2022 |
izzou: Anything that rocks your boat bro. so far as the end you're voting Peter Obi, you are a comrade I stan. Collect 5. 3 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 11:39am On Aug 10, 2022 |
Nigeria needs someone that has passed test of times, that has handled people and positions.. That has impacted in the lives of people around him and places he managed.. Compare Lagos and anambara Compare people that is/has been around tinubu and people that is/has been around obi If they give you a lifetime opportunity, who would you want to be under? Who would benefit you much better between the 2? Honestly if I'm told to serve either obi or tinubu for 4 years, I'll choose to serve tinubu because I know he'd mentor me and brought me up in all ramifications.. People lie Numbers don't 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:40am On Aug 10, 2022 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: These people are brainless and heartless folks. Devious BATstards that want nigeria to continue to suffer. E no go well for them. 1 Like
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibukzy: 11:41am On Aug 10, 2022 |
seankafor: 1 Like
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 11:41am On Aug 10, 2022 |
seankafor:there is nothing bad in saying the truth https://www.nairaland.com/7273589/chimaroke-nnamani-tinubu-most-successful |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:45am On Aug 10, 2022 |
seankafor: Of course criminals attract each other. This one decided to support Tinubu the day he found out Tinubu was a drug baron. The escoBAT of our time. While he himself goes around defrauding innocent americans and ripping of their hard-earned money. Such a shameless criminal. Meanwhile the supposed people that the criminal bat helped, how did these people help nigeria? Are all of them not part of nigerias problem today?? From his wife in the Senate, to his stooge as VP, to the minister of darkness and the likes. Are all these men not the class of men that have raped Nigeria in the last 8 years? And more than 20 years of looting the western states treasuries like their fellow counterparts across nigeria? How do we keep supporting these thieves that have ruined us? 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 11:46am On Aug 10, 2022 |
One thing I like jagaban is his ruggedity and master plan strategy.. He's always got his position on lock.. Obj couldn't sway him Gej couldn't bulky him with military in 2014/15 election Buhari couldn't stand his way If this man can handle Nigeria and puts it on lock.. I think I will be happy I like him for his smartness and ruggedity 8 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:47am On Aug 10, 2022 |
PendragonVII, I'm still asking, where do you lean towards? Are you OBIdient to your country? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:47am On Aug 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: The man that said power is not rocket science...hence, a serious government will solve power insufficiency in 6months lmfao... 7yrs don pass we never get steady power supply. joke is on you bro. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:48am On Aug 10, 2022 |
seankafor: If you believe all you wrote there, you have clearly fallen sway to their devious propaganda. You have let your gullible mind be made a caricature of and that's not surprising. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joezinho: 11:49am On Aug 10, 2022 |
Ebeano has spoken. https://www.nairaland.com/7273589/chimaroke-nnamani-tinubu-most-successful It is obvious Obituary's cult-like supporters, who are majorly active biafran apologists & IPOB terrorist supporters have no respect for their elders.. The Obi's fanatic and cult-like supporters won't shut every dissenting voice or hold this country to ramson solely because Peter Obi is vying for the office of the presidency. Even here on NL, the sane and likeable ones are izzou and few others... 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:51am On Aug 10, 2022 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: I also fell prey to that deceit. God knows how highly I regarded fashola in 2015. All these people have been tainted badly by the failure of their party. I sincerely belived that witg fashola taking over from Barth nnaji then, Nigeria's power supply was bound to increase double folds, never would I know that were about to lose half of power generation. From 11000mw to barely 5000mw. They took us backwards. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:54am On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet:These days he's a crime scene investigator 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:57am On Aug 10, 2022 |
Joezinho: So we should respect our "elders" even if these elders are 70 year old thief's that have looted and wasted the destinies of an entire generation?? We should be slavish to an elite class that have kept our regions and states in penury for donkey years? How do you not understand that Peter Obi supporters are a pan Nigerian group of young people who are desperately crying for a new Nigeria and a new way of doing things in our politics. .how do you not see that we don't want politicians using state funds to run campaigns that they now use their times in office recouping that money and stealing our money? How can you not see that Obi supporters simply desire the very best of leadership. Not old recycled men. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:58am On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet: Fashola did not take over from Barth Nnaji. The ministry was dead when Fashola came on board Barth resigned in 2013 or so. PDP was still in power then 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:01pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:08pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
izzou: but agent Fash gave us the impression that they will fix power under 6months... National grid just dey collapse dey go.. What happened? Care to explain.. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:11pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: Yes he did. And I have dragged him for that here. Let's just stick with facts instead of twisting. After Barth resigned, the power ministry was in shambles already before APC came on board. Fashola did not take over from Barth 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:15pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet: https://www.thecable.ng/senate-passes-electricity-bill-to-address-power-sector-challenges The senate has passed the electricity bill 2022 that would allow states to generate and distribute power as well as solve the sector’s challenges. the real issue with Power in Nigeria is legislation. the above bill should have been passed years ago. without this, there is not that much that could be done. i will spell it out as simply as a i can Power is generation, transmission and distribution we have private gencos, transmission managed by FG, and discos an analogy is the generator in your house as generation the cable to your distribution board from the gen as transmission and your distribution board as distribution the gencos are fine and generating more power than they can sell tranmission infrastructure dates back to the 60s and upgrading is very slow. especially because it is very expensive. my first job out of uni was in a company working on transmission line protection. we were upgrading their relays from electromechanical to electronic. each relay was 5 million naira . and relays had to be installed in every nepa transmission station. thats was a world bank funded project if i recall imagine if you will an old, cut and joined, cable from your generator to your DB. constantly failing, constantly being patched. that is our transmission network. which is always having system collape then the discos, are the part of power everyone knows. they are the ones who power you. thsi has traditionally been teh most corrupt part of power, as they have no competition and they intreface directly with customers by law, once your are generating above 2mw [if i recall] you have to inject it into the national grid. this si like saying once you have a generator where you live, once you have a gen over 10kva, you must share your power with everybody. this has severly hampered local power generation. i could say i want to set up a power plant in lagos - but i would have to inject my power into the national grid - the 60 year old transmission infrastructure that is always crashing. with this law, you can now connect your gen directly to your db, without thsi law, there is little fashola could have done technical professionals know when politicians are just talking. Bola ige said the same thing which is why engineers were just laughing at obis egypt photo op. good enough for laymen - but obvious BS but the blame for power REALLY is on PDP because, after bola ige failed, obj actually studied the situation, and built several power plants. however the plants needed transformers to evacuate the power, so obj ordered injection transformers. but they could not be instated during his term. they have been abandoned at the ports all this time, and are now probably rotted. this is where all the shouting about obj and x billion comes from. neither yardua, nor gej saw fit to finish what obj had started. they simply abandoned it. now that anyone can generate power, we will start to see local gencos come on line. EKEDP, IKEDC will not have to rely on allocation from national grid. effectively, the sector has been liberalised. however, it will still need investors with deep pockets as returns on power investment can take decades 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:29pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
So it took a Senior Advocate of Nigeria close to 8yrs...to realise that the REAL issue in power generation in Nigeria is LEGISLATION. wondament! product of BAT... nice one. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:30pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: What you said is true. But then, the onus lies on the government to rehabilitate the TransCo. You as an entry level staff knew the problem, so why should a Minister not know? That is why I am just looking at Obi as he is running his mouth. When e reach there now, we go hear say Buhari scatter Nigeria kpata kpata, so him need 16 years The New Bill is quite okay, and also an easy way out for the FG. A very welcome development for everybody. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:51pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
izzou: this is why this bill may be a real game changer. i think Fashola was trying to push for it in his first term. the bill allows you to bypass the dilapidated transmission infrastructure and supply power to the DISCO directly. but the whole first term was spent fighting bukola saraki the usurper and his gang Lagos, Incidentally already has at least one such power station in marina. in 2002, a long distance protection relay was N5 million. there were nepa transmission stations in every state. some states have two or three. there are also power stations [kainji, jebba, egbin] . we were in kainji in late 2003 and i think we installed three, not sure anymore. i am saying there may have been over a hundred to install. this is only one single component in a very complicated and intricate system . those cables you see on transmission towers are gigantic. rehabilitating this would take billions. one of the biggest problems with anything govt is inertia. you talked about it when you discussed civil servants. NEPA was more of the same. go in collect your salary, collect your promotion every three years - do absolutely nothing. most of the time when we came into a station to work, was the most action those engineers had seen in years. now take this attitude and carry it all the way to the top. no one is under any real pressure to improve. we were a private company and the boss had worked in the oyibo companies that put up the tranmission lines in the 80s. the man had been an engineer in private sector all his life. so we worked with drive - even though na one man biz with one man biz wahala. there is a story of how barth nnaji went to a station and some equipment was offline. the story was the manual is in chinese. this had been the story for years. and the man just touched a few switches here and there and put it on. the attitude of your guy who came up in govt paraststal is find an excuse and call it a day. of course that is only one part of the problem - the other is a new admin can fk whatever the previous one did. so investors are also wary. you will be suprised, if the niger bridge is not finished before buharii ends his term and obi wins - it may be abandoned for a project with obis name on it. No be so we dey do? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 12:58pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet:how has obi helped Nigeria bro? I can name you people that has progressed or advanced under tinubu, Name people that has elavated under obi.. People lie Numbers dont 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:58pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: https://www.channelstv.com/2011/12/09/power-sector-%E2%80%9Cgovts-private-companies-should-be-allowed-free-entryexit%E2%80%9D-fashola/ even in 2011, Fashola already understood the issues try again. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:03pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
donjazet:oh boy. your vex just weak me. 2 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:04pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Yes, Lagos state has one of such My cousin attends King's college, and they always have power (his guardian said). I think it's because they are the next compound after the Court of Appeal So with this new bill, what's the fate of existing Discos? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:21pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
izzou: to reiterate Power is generation transmission distribution what has been happening is that power transmission has been centralized basically like police or military now ekedp does not have to get power from national grid. they can get power from anywhere. from lagos state, from Izzou Power co, who can be within a 20km radius. the people who may lose are the gencos because now there will be competition to supply the discos. at the barest minium, it will reduce demand on our transmission infrastructure, which may now become a supplier of civil service states that cannot get local power stations built. Barth Nnaji can also start to hammer, as i think he also has a power station in enugu. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:30pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Maybe I'm thinking in another direction But, we have both identified the Transcos as the major problem. So with the new bill, anybody generating, has to worry about transmission And if I can generate and transmit, why don't I just distribute myself? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 1:35pm On Aug 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Obi in thjs video said he lives in Nigeria and doesn't need to buy house in America cos its only costs him $200 to get there. Americans should live in Nigeria, Obi said. Nigerians should live in Nigeria. Foreigners don't buy house in Nigeria. Why should nigeriams buy house Abroad Same Obi is in another video talking about how he bought his house in London back in 1996. He probably use 200 dollars to buy flight ticket there and purchased the property in cowries. Scam 6 Likes 1 Share
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