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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 7:56pm On Aug 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
And when Jesus Christ arrived, He made it abundantly clear that He is not the Father but He is one with the Father. So, should we not believe Jesus Christ, who after all, is the Father's contract to us? undecided

As told by the early church fathers.
Why do you believe early church fathers but not nowadays church fathers?

And hope you know you are practicing nicene Christianity CREATED by church fathers cheesy

Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:00pm On Aug 09, 2022
PoliteActivist:

What I don't understand is why you people can't acknowledge that Lord Jesus is like no other major religious figure except God himself. That he has the "God essence". Which other religious figure told people he'd come into their hearts, or that when they're gathered he'd be in their midst, or a mighty prophet was sent to prepare people for his coming, or that was conceived without sperm, or that a voice from heaven spoke to people to follow him, etc.

And the guy talking about what kind of worship he received. How come everyone else always rejected that kind of worship, saying it was only for God. Why? Because they're afraid of the wrath of God. How come Jesus never once rejected worship. He was a carpenter without money or connections. Was it because he had a massive ego and power hungry?? No. He accepted worship simply because it was right! And he's being worshipped to this day. Don't you think God would have wiped all that out if it were offensive to Him? Imagine the wrath of God if it were so. Infact it is the first commandment. That's how important it is. But instead people are visibly blessed worshipping Lord Jesus.
Read the Bible yourselves then, taking everything together, use your own COMMON SENSE!
Stop regurgitating things said by people with an agenda, or people trying to win long-running arguments!

Just a question for you!

Since the Bible called Moses "God," {Exodus 7:} and Jesus "God" {Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} is Jesus the Almighty God?
YES or NO!
Choose one before typing another epistle! smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:37pm On Aug 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Just a question for you!

Since the Bible called Moses "God," {Exodus 7:} and Jesus "God" {Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} is Jesus the Almighty God?
YES or NO!
Choose one before typing another epistle! smiley

My friend, TAKE THE ENTIRE BIBLE TOGETHER! Don't isolate statements and passages here and there. That's the trick preachers with agendas use! Viewing the whole thing, the truth will EASILY emerge.
We all know the Bible was written and translated over thousands of years under all sorts of conditions by people with all sorts of biases. Yes they can tweak a sentence here and there to win arguments. But looking at the entirety of it, the truth ALWAYS emerges!

(Jesus also said "Don't call me good. Only God is good"!)

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44pm On Aug 09, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My friend, TAKE THE ENTIRE BIBLE TOGETHER! Don't isolate statements and passages here and there. That's the trick preachers with agendas use! Viewing the whole thing, the truth will EASILY emerge.
We all know the Bible was written and translated over thousands of years under all sorts of conditions by people with all sorts of biases. Yes they can tweak a sentence here and there to win arguments. But looking at the entirety of it, the truth ALWAYS emerges!

(Jesus also said "Don't call me good. Only God is good"!)

Stop deceiving yourself!

Jesus WAS God just as Moses WAS God. Exodus 7:1; John 1:1

But regarding the Almighty God it's the father of all not Jesus! John 20:17 wink

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 8:48pm On Aug 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Stop deceiving yourself!

Jesus WAS God just as Moses WAS God. Exodus 7:1; John 1:1

But regarding the Almighty God it's the father of all not Jesus! wink

With all due respect, are you retarded?? Mention 3 aspects of moses that were God-like. Did Moses ever say he was the way to God or he'll abide in people's hearts, or stayed a powerful spirit working in people's lives after his death? Please stop making STUPID comparisons!

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Jokerman(m): 8:59pm On Aug 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Well Michael is the ARCHANGEL the angel that is above all other angels! smiley

You are here again with your antichrist message even after opening your eyes to a lot on my thread

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 9:04pm On Aug 09, 2022
Jokerman:


You are here again with your antichrist message even after opening your eyes to a lot on my thread

It's almost like he's a programed robot incapable of seeing or reasoning beyond his programing!

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 9:11pm On Aug 09, 2022
PoliteActivist:


It's almost like he's a programed robot incapable of seeing or reasoning beyond his programing!

He is programmed to follow his masters no matter what they say.

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12pm On Aug 09, 2022
PoliteActivist:

With all due respect, are you retarded?? Mention 3 aspects of moses that were God-like. Did Moses ever say he was the way to God or he'll abide in people's hearts, or stayed a powerful spirit working in people's lives after his death? Please stop making STUPID comparisons!

This is WRITTEN in the Bible:
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exodus 7:1 NIV

I believe in God's word! wink

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14pm On Aug 09, 2022
Jokerman:

You are here again with your antichrist message even after opening your eyes to a lot on my thread

Go and preach what you know then hold fast to the result! Matthew 7:17-18 smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:15pm On Aug 09, 2022
PoliteActivist:

It's almost like he's a programed robot incapable of seeing or reasoning beyond his programing!
Follow God's word instead of dogmas!

Jesus is a messenger of God! smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by cornelboy(f): 9:26pm On Aug 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Just a question for you!
Since the Bible called Moses "God," {Exodus 7:} and Jesus "God" {Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} is Jesus the Almighty God?
YES or NO!
Choose one before typing another epistle! smiley
Even Satan self is called God.

God himself called some humans Gods.

It's obvious that the word "God" is nothing but a title.

According to Jesus, the Father whose name his Jehovah is the true God. John 17:3. Paul explained that at 1 Corinthians 8:5&6


God bless the Jehovah witnesses for making the Bible clear to me. Pure TRUTH.

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 9:28pm On Aug 09, 2022
Beware of Fallen Watchers

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Kobojunkie: 9:37pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Even Satan self is called God. God himself called some humans Gods. It's obvious that the word "God" is nothing but a title.

According to Jesus, the Father whose name his Jehovah is the true God. John 17:3. Paul explained that at 1 Corinthians 8:5&6
God bless the Jehovah witnesses for making the Bible clear to me. Pure TRUTH.
Where do you read this claim of yours that Jesus Christ said The Father's Name is Jehovah? undecided

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Maynman: 9:48pm On Aug 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Where do you read this claim of yours that Jesus Christ said The Father's Name is Jehovah? undecided

Forgotten The jewish and Christian book was not written in English? “God” is an English word grin

Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 4:04am On Aug 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


This is WRITTEN in the Bible:
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exodus 7:1 NIV

I believe in God's word! wink



1) Many things are written in the Bible. We have already determined that the Bible was written and translated over thousands of years under all sorts of conditions and by all sorts of people

2) Which is why you have to take everything together and not isolate verses

3) There is nothing that supports the view that Moses was God. He had no God attributes whatsoever

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:28am On Aug 10, 2022
PoliteActivist:

1) Many things are written in the Bible. We have already determined that the Bible was written and translated over thousands of years under all sorts of conditions and by all sorts of people

2) Which is why you have to take everything together and not isolate verses

3) There is nothing that supports the view that Moses was God. He had no God attributes whatsoever

God's word has spoken not me so go and edit what God's word says:
Moses WAS God! Exodus 7:1
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31am On Aug 10, 2022
cornelboy:

Even Satan self is called God.

God himself called some humans Gods.

It's obvious that the word "God" is nothing but a title.

According to Jesus, the Father whose name his Jehovah is the true God. John 17:3. Paul explained that at 1 Corinthians 8:5&6


God bless the Jehovah witnesses for making the Bible clear to me. Pure TRUTH.

TRINITY is their problem even when they know it's not found in the Bible they are looking for scriptures to back it up that's why you only need to ask them the simple question:

Is Jesus the Almighty God?
The answer is NO! smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by AntiChristian: 5:18am On Aug 10, 2022
PoliteActivist:




What I don't understand is why you people can't acknowledge that Lord Jesus is like no other major religious figure except God himself. That he has the "God essence". Which other religious figure told people he'd come into their hearts, or that when they're gathered he'd be in their midst, or a mighty prophet was sent to prepare people for his coming, or that was conceived without sperm, or that a voice from heaven spoke to people to follow him, etc.

And the guy talking about what kind of worship he received. How come everyone else always rejected that kind of worship, saying it was only for God. Why? Because they're afraid of the wrath of God. How come Jesus never once rejected worship. He was a carpenter without money or connections. Was it because he had a massive ego and power hungry?? No. He accepted worship simply because it was right! And he's being worshipped to this day. Don't you think God would have wiped all that out if it were offensive to Him? Imagine the wrath of God if it were so. Infact it is the first commandment. That's how important it is. Instead it has grown and grown, and people are visibly blessed worshipping Lord Jesus.
Read the Bible yourselves then, taking everything together, use your own COMMON SENSE!
Stop regurgitating things said by people with an agenda, or people immersed in long-running arguments!

Those people i mentioned was worshipped, where did they reject the worship? Abi you dey lie?

Jesus said he is going to his father and to your father, to his God and to your God.

Jesus had a God! Does a God have another God? Does a God worship another God?

Can the father too have a God?

How insane is Christianity!

God is free from all this mess!
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 1:33pm On Aug 10, 2022
AntiChristian:


Those people i mentioned was worshipped, where did they reject the worship? Abi you dey lie?

Jesus said he is going to his father and to your father, to his God and to your God.

Jesus had a God! Does a God have another God? Does a God worship another God?

Can the father too have a God?

How insane is Christianity!

God is free from all this mess!

Which MAJOR religious figure accepted worship, said he'll come into people's heart, said he'll be amidst them when they gather in his name, kept spiritually working in people's lives after death?

He's of the same substance as God, more reason why He'd worship Him. Tell us why God the son of God can't worship God His father
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:10pm On Aug 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Follow God's word instead of dogmas!

Jesus is a messenger of God! smiley

You are the one following dogmas instead of common sense. A non-robot person will not be comparing Moses to Lord Jesus

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:13pm On Aug 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


God's word has spoken not me so go and edit what God's word says:
Moses WAS God! Exodus 7:1

So if you are not a robot, tell us what makes Moses God-like

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32pm On Aug 10, 2022
PoliteActivist:

So if you are not a robot, tell us what makes Moses God-like

As the writer of Exodus 7:1 smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 4:09am On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


As the writer of Exodus 7:1 smiley

So it's now confirmed, you are a robot. You robotically keep quoting the same verse. TAKE THE ENTIRE BIBLE!!!
Moses WAS a man and died at 120 as God had set for man
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:29am On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:

So it's now confirmed, you are a robot. You robotically keep quoting the same verse. TAKE THE ENTIRE BIBLE!!!
Moses WAS a man and died at 120 as God had set for man
Jesus served as God just as Moses served as God and they both relied on the Almighty God who sent them, that's what the scriptures say.

The only difference between the two is their origin, Moses came through reproduction by humans but Jesus is not from this source! John 8:23

So both of them delivered the message their Creator (GOD) sent them! John 3:16

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by AntiChristian: 5:20am On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


Which MAJOR religious figure accepted worship, said he'll come into people's heart, said he'll be amidst them when they gather in his name, kept spiritually working in people's lives after death?

He's of the same substance as God, more reason why He'd worship Him. Tell us why God the son of God can't worship God His father

Why are you just diverting from all the responses given?

Seems your own form of Holy spirit is full of diversion? I think I've answered you well enough!
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 10:10am On Aug 11, 2022
AntiChristian:


Why are you just diverting from all the responses given?

Seems your own form of Holy spirit is full of diversion? I think I've answered you well enough!

Diversion what? What did I divert?? You were asked pointed questions and you couldn't answer because you know the honest answer negates your thesis
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 10:19am On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus served as God just as Moses served as God and they both relied on the Almighty God who sent them, that's what the scriptures say.

The only difference between the two is their origin, Moses came through reproduction by humans but Jesus is not from this source! John 8:23

So both of them delivered the message their Creator (GOD) sent them! John 3:16

So whoever worshipped Moses? Did Pharaoh or anybody ever act like Moses was their God? Did Moses have any presence after his death? Did Moses keep working as a Spirit after his death. Did Moses say he'd enter any person's heart or answer when called upon or be amongst them when they gather in his name, etc. THINK! Stop robotically regurgitating a nonsense comparison put into your head!

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52am On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:

So whoever worshipped Moses? Did Pharaoh or anybody ever act like Moses was their God? Did Moses have any presence after his death? Did Moses keep working as a Spirit after his death. Did Moses say he'd enter any person's heart or answer when called upon or be amongst them when they gather in his name, etc. THINK! Stop robotically regurgitating a nonsense comparison put into your head!

I've told you that the reason why Jesus continue to exist after his death is because he has accomplished his earthly mission and returned to his former abode as a spirit creature so he's not dead like all other humans but living.
As for worship nobody worshiped Jesus!
It's the custom of Asians to do obeisance to a unique person and that's done to all the prophets of God in Bible times {2kings 2:15} it's sign of reverence not worship.
According to Jesus himself there is only one true God and himself is just a servant as in SERVANT of the true God! John 17:3

So if God's word say both Moses and Jesus lived and served as God it simply means they both had supernatural powers given to them by the Most High God! Psalms 83:18
Moses and Jesus are nothing before the Most High God, He elevated them so don't jump the protocols by spewing gibberish about Jesus he is a SERVANT of God! smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 11:56am On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


I've told you that the reason why Jesus continue to exist after his death is because he has accomplished his earthly mission and returned to his former abode as a spirit creature so he's not dead like all other humans but living.
As for worship nobody worshiped Jesus!
It's the custom of Asians to do obeisance to a unique person and that's done to all the prophets of God in Bible times {2kings 2:15} it's sign of reverence not worship.
According to Jesus himself there is only one true God and himself is just a servant as in SERVANT of the true God! John 17:3

So if God's word say both Moses and Jesus lived and served as God it simply means they both had supernatural powers given to them by the Most High God! Psalms 83:18
Moses and Jesus are nothing before the Most High God, He elevated them so don't jump the protocols by spewing gibberish about Jesus he is a SERVANT of God! smiley

My brother you've been so brainwashed. See, this is what happens when you let people program you to the extent you are no longer able to think for yourself, no longer able to open your own eyes and observe what's ACTUALLY going on. You've been told repeatedly not to isolate things, to take everything together. We are thousands of years from those times, so we have perspective of time. If you weren't robotic you'd ask what has time borne out, what has proved to be true. Unless you believe God is completely powerless, incapable of affecting human affairs - in which case you might as well be an atheist!

You keep parsing the word "worship", funny thing is, Jeus is being worshiped TODAY! Or would you also parse that it is "obeisance"?! There's an explosion of churches dedicated to His worship, and it has grown continuously over the centuries. Time has shown us what is true, what God supports.

As for Moses, so why didn't he also "continue to exist after death" since he is equally God?
Look, in physical world terms there's no comparison between Moses and Jesus. One was a mighty warrior, leader and director of a whole nation. The other was a carpenter with no money or connections, and a very small group of followers.
The big difference was, one was God, one was NOT!

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:36pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My brother you've been so brainwashed. See, this is what happens when you let people program you to the extent you are no longer able to think for yourself, no longer able to open your own eyes and observe what's ACTUALLY going on. You've been told repeatedly not to isolate things, to take everything together. We are thousands of years from those times, so we have perspective of time. If you weren't robotic you'd ask what has time borne out, what has proved to be true. Unless you believe God is completely powerless, incapable of affecting human affairs - in which case you might as well be an atheist!

You keep parsing the word "worship", funny thing is, Jeus is being worshiped TODAY! Or would you also parse that it is "obeisance"?! There's an explosion of churches dedicated to His worship, and it has grown continuously over the centuries. Time has shown us what is true, what God supports.

As for Moses, so why didn't he also "continue to exist after death" since he is equally God?
Look, in physical world terms there's no comparison between Moses and Jesus. One was a mighty warrior, leader and director of a whole nation. The other was a carpenter with no money or connections, and a very small group of followers.
The big difference was, one was God, one was NOT!

On the contrary you're the robot here because you keep throwing away God's word for no just reason.
Jesus is not the Almighty God and Moses WAS God {Exodus 7:1} since you have no objections to that fact other than blind arguments then there's no need calling me your brother.

Worshipers of creatures are idolaters not believers! Exodus 20:4-5
That's why Jesus said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

According to God's word all servants of God have the same father and God whom Jesus referred to as OUR father and OUR God, note that Jesus didn't say "go to my worshipers" rather he said "go to my BROTHERS" God has never called anyone "BROTHER"

‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines Mark 7:6-7

So worshiping something simply because you see others worshiping it when God's word didn't ask you to do so, what does that makes you?
Simple answer: IDOLATER! smiley
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:01pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


So it's now confirmed, you are a robot. You robotically keep quoting the same verse. TAKE THE ENTIRE BIBLE!!!
Moses WAS a man and died at 120 as God had set for man
In your Bible,God calls each of his sons a god.
Jesus Christ concurs.
His sons collectively are gods. 1 Cor 8:5.
Oga, is Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-36 in your Bible?
Pls DELETE THEM & have peace.

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