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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 1:11pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


On the contrary you're the robot here because you keep throwing away God's word for no just reason.
Jesus is not the Almighty God and Moses WAS God {Exodus 7:1} since you have no objections to that fact other than blind arguments then there's no need calling me your brother.

Worshipers of creatures are idolaters not believers! Exodus 20:4-5
That's why Jesus said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

According to God's word all servants of God have the same father and God whom Jesus referred to as OUR father and OUR God, note that Jesus didn't say "go to my worshipers" rather he said "go to my BROTHERS" God has never called anyone "BROTHER"

‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines Mark 7:6-7

So worshiping something simply because you see others worshiping it when God's word didn't ask you to do so, what does that makes you?
Simple answer: IDOLATER! smiley

Ok, if you are not brainwashed tell us why there has been an explosion of churches worshiping Lord Jesus.
Or are you an atheist believing there's nothing God can do about people breaking His number one commandment??

In Matthew 3:17 and Luke 3:22 Jesus is called the Son of God by the voice from above.

In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
    make straight paths for him.’”...

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well please"

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:13pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


So if you are not a robot, tell us what makes Moses God-like
* Did Jesus Christ perform miracles?
Moses did the same. He performed miracles.

*Is Jesus Christ a mediator ?
Moses was a mediator between God and God's people.

*
Oga,Is Moses included in Psalms 82:6 , Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16?
Yes, definitely.


Verdict: Moses was a god. Divine. Godlike
If you can't comprehend that check the screenshot
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grin

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:22pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


Ok, if you are not brainwashed tell us why there has been an explosion of churches worshiping Lord Jesus.
Or are you an atheist believing there's nothing God can do about people breaking His number one commandment??

In Matthew 3:17 and Luke 3:22 Jesus is called the Son of God by the voice from above.

In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
    make straight paths for him.’”...

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well please"

Emphasis on the bold print in your post.

Mark 12:29-30
29Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' “ 30“'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment”

Oga,are you & those Churchgoers obedient to the first Commandment which Jesus Christ and all faithful servants are OBEYING @ Mark 12:29-30, John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?

Is Jesus Christ brainwashed or those Churchgoers are brainwashed?

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:28pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


On the contrary you're the robot here because you keep throwing away God's word for no just reason.
Jesus is not the Almighty God and Moses WAS God {Exodus 7:1} since you have no objections to that fact other than blind arguments then there's no need calling me your brother.

Worshipers of creatures are idolaters not believers! Exodus 20:4-5
That's why Jesus said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

According to God's word all servants of God have the same father and God whom Jesus referred to as OUR father and OUR God, note that Jesus didn't say "go to my worshipers" rather he said "go to my BROTHERS" God has never called anyone "BROTHER"

‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines Mark 7:6-7

So worshiping something simply because you see others worshiping it when God's word didn't ask you to do so, what does that makes you?
Simple answer: IDOLATER! smiley
Well said!
Whoever worship 3 deities or other deities not spoken of in Mark 12:29-30, John20:17 & Acts 3:13 is in fact an IDOLATER.

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:36pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My brother you've been so brainwashed. See, this is what happens when you let people program you to the extent you are no longer able to think for yourself, no longer able to open your own eyes and observe what's ACTUALLY going on. You've been told repeatedly not to isolate things, to take everything together. We are thousands of years from those times, so we have perspective of time. If you weren't robotic you'd ask what has time borne out, what has proved to be true. Unless you believe God is completely powerless, incapable of affecting human affairs - in which case you might as well be an atheist!

You keep parsing the word "worship", funny thing is, Jeus is being worshiped TODAY! Or would you also parse that it is "obeisance"?! There's an explosion of churches dedicated to His worship, and it has grown continuously over the centuries. Time has shown us what is true, what God supports.

As for Moses, so why didn't he also "continue to exist after death" since he is equally God?
Look, in physical world terms there's no comparison between Moses and Jesus. One was a mighty warrior, leader and director of a whole nation. The other was a carpenter with no money or connections, and a very small group of followers.
The big difference was, one was God, one was NOT!
Is Revelation 2:18,27 & Revelation 3:5,12 in your Bible?

Please DELETE THEM & have peace.

In the spiritual realm,Your deity says himself is the Son of God,his Father.

Your deity is a worshipper too.
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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:39pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


You are the one following dogmas instead of common sense. A non-robot person will not be comparing Moses to Lord Jesus
Both are mediators, your Bible compares them.
John 1:17.
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:45pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

Well said!
Whoever worship 3 deities or other deities not spoken of in Mark 12:29-30, John20:17 & Acts 3:13 is in fact an IDOLATER.

He has been carried away by the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14

So instead of concentrating on what is WRITTEN in God's word he's following what men are doing!

No wonder Jesus referred to suchlike ones as WORKERS OF INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS) {Matthew 7:23} he thought it's whatever the majority does or wants that matters forgetting that majority perished in Noah's days and Jesus said history will surely repeat itself! Luke 17:26-27
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:49pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
    make straight paths for him.’”...

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well please"

The highlighted says it all!

Jesus is God's Son not GOD so if the scriptures say anything is God apart from the Almighty it simply means powerful creatures and they are many as in MANY! 1Corinthians 8:5

Lest i keep you in the dark, we are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES members of God's organization {Hebrews 12:1 compare to Isaiah 43:10-12} Jesus is one of us {Revelations 1:5} our eldest BROTHER {Matthew 12:46-50} it's after the mission he successfully accomplished that our God made him both Lord and Christ {Act 2:36} so we don't worship him but do OBEISANCE to him that's why we're the world's number one preaching and teaching team! Act 1:8 smiley
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 1:57pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My friends ALL major prophets and teachers and angels, whenever someone tried to worship them, rebuked the person that only God was to be worshipped. Among the many things throughout the Bible that confirm His divinity.
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of or like God or a god.
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Divinity does NOT mean God Almighty.
Divinity confirm Jesus Christ is a god.

"Of God", belonging to God,1 Corinthians 3:23.
Let's get this point very clear.

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 1:58pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

In your Bible,God calls each of his sons a god.
Jesus Christ concurs.
His sons collectively are gods. 1 Cor 8:5.
Oga, is Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-36 in your Bible?
Pls DELETE THEM & have peace.


My friend you are making the same mistake as the other guy: isolating verses, failing to take everything together.
Which of the "gods" did anything like the following happen to? Which was ever worshipped by anybody? Which is being worshipped today?

In Matthew 3:17 and Luke 3:22 a mighty prophet was sent to prepare the way for Lord Jesus who is called the Son of God by the voice from above:

In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
    make straight paths for him.’”...

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well please"
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:07pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

* Did Jesus Christ perform miracles?
Moses did the same. He performed miracles.

*Is Jesus Christ a mediator ?
Moses was a mediator between God and God's people.

*
Oga,Is Moses included in Psalms 82:6 , Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16?
Yes, definitely.


Verdict: Moses was a god. Divine. Godlike
If you can't comprehend that check the screenshot
.
grin


My friend are you slow or something? How many people performed miracles in the Bible? You know full well Moses is no meduator the way it's meant. He is no siritual mediator, which is what is meant. Infact there is no "is" about him - he is DEAD!
Lord Jesus IS THE ETERNAL MEDIATOR and He is eternally ALIVE!
Stop making a fool of yourself
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:15pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

Emphasis on the bold print in your post.

Mark 12:29-30
29Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' “ 30“'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment”

Oga,are you & those Churchgoers obedient to the first Commandment which Jesus Christ and all faithful servants are OBEYING @ Mark 12:29-30, John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?

Is Jesus Christ brainwashed or those Churchgoers are brainwashed?

See this one. He's asked a question, instead of answering it he is blabbing nonsense.
Sir, you are asked:
Are you an atheist believing there's nothing God can do about people breaking His number one commandment??
If not, then WHY HAS THERE BEEN AN EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS and why is it they've been growing continuously century to century??
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:15pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My friend you are making the same mistake as the other guy: isolating verses, failing to take everything together.


Your error, not mine.

Your quote of Matthew 3:16 & Luke 3:22 calls Jesus Christ son of God.
The same son of God in Psalms 82:6 & John 10:34-36 , Jesus Christ quoted from Psalms 82:6.
Abeg don't argue.
Oga, pls believe cheesy
.

PoliteActivist:

Which of the "gods" did anything like the following happen to? Which was ever worshipped by anybody? Which is being worshipped today?

In Matthew 3:17 and Luke 3:22 a mighty prophet was sent to prepare the way for Lord Jesus who is called the Son of God by the voice from above:

In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
    make straight paths for him.’”...

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well please"
Acts 3:23 Jesus Christ is a prophet.

Oga, in your Bible,God calls each of his sons a god.
Jesus Christ concurs.
His sons collectively are gods. 1 Cor 8:5.
Oga, is Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-36 in your Bible?
Yes !


Acts 2:36 God ,his Father made Jesus Christ "Lord" & "Messiah".
Hebrews 1:5,God NEVER gave that privilege to His other sons whether in heaven or earth.
Na Jesus Christ take pass every creature.
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:17pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


My friend are you slow or something? How many people performed miracles in the Bible? You know full well Moses is no meduator the way it's meant. He is no siritual mediator, which is what is meant. Infact there is no "is" about him - he is DEAD!
Lord Jesus IS THE ETERNAL MEDIATOR and He is eternally ALIVE!
Stop making a fool of yourself

Arrogant idolater!

I'm sorry for you! cheesy

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:20pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:

WHY HAS THERE BEEN AN EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS?
Because Satan blindfolded them {2Corinthians 4:4} and he is carrying them through the BROAD road leading off to DESTRUCTION! Matthew 7:13-14 smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:21pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


See this one. He's asked a question, instead of answering it he is blabbing nonsense.
Sir, you are asked:
Are you an atheist believing there's nothing God can do about people breaking His number one commandment??
If not, then WHY HAS THERE BEEN AN EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS and why is it they've been growing continuously century to century??
Oga, pls I have 2 questions I need your response.
*1
Jesus quote the first Commandment @ Mark12:29-30.
Did Jesus Christ say you must worship him?

*2
Those "EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES " you say,"WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS",did they receive that command from Jesus Christ?
One sentence statement for each question would suffice.
God bless.
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:23pm On Aug 11, 2022
Acts 2:36 God ,his Father made Jesus Christ "Lord" & "Messiah".
Hebrews 1:5,God NEVER gave that privilege to His other sons whether in heaven or earth.
Na Jesus Christ take pass every creature.
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Now you are getting close. You'll soon get there, let's keep going;

Is Lord Jesus Son of God the same way you or anyone else is son of God. If not, what's the difference?
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

Oga, pls I have 2 questions I need your response.
*1
Jesus quote the first Commandment @ Mark12:29-30.
Did Jesus Christ say you must worship him?

*2
Those "EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES " you say,"WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS",did they receive that command from Jesus Christ?
One sentence statement for each question would suffice.
God bless.

Abeg leave am nah small pikin jàre that's why he's throwing abusive speeches up and down yet he called himself "polite" smiley
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:27pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:
Acts 2:36 God ,his Father made Jesus Christ "Lord" & "Messiah".
Hebrews 1:5,God NEVER gave that privilege to His other sons whether in heaven or earth.
Na Jesus Christ take pass every creature.


Now you are getting close. You'll soon get there, let's keep going;

Is Lord Jesus Son of God the same way you or anyone else is son of God. If not, what's the difference?

Hen nah! smiley

Sebi he earned it by being obedient to our God nah! cheesy
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:28pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Because Satan blindfolded them {2Corinthians 4:4} and he is carrying them through the BROAD road leading off to DESTRUCTION! Matthew 7:13-14 smiley

So you are confirming you are an atheist, believing there is nothing God can do about people disobeying His number one commandment. He can only helplessly watch and see the churches go from strength to strength
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:30pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

Oga, pls I have 2 questions I need your response.
*1
Jesus quote the first Commandment @ Mark12:29-30.
Did Jesus Christ say you must worship him?

*2
Those "EXPLOSION OF CHURCHES " you say,"WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS",did they receive that command from Jesus Christ?
One sentence statement for each question would suffice.
God bless.

See this one. He won't answer the question he's asked. Because he knows honestly answering it will mark him an atheist!
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:34pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Hen nah! smiley

Sebi he earned it by being obedient to our God nah! cheesy

So stop comparing Lord Jesus to Moses. It is RIDICULOUS! Moses was a man! Lord Jesus is of a different substance - the same substance of which His father is made!
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:35pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:

So you are confirming you are an atheist, believing there is nothing God can do about people disobeying His number one commandment. He can only helplessly watch and see the churches go from strength to strength
Matthew 24:11
2Timothy 3:13

Did Jesus say anything will happen to those on the about the broad road apart from destruction on judgment day? Matthew 7:13-14

Ọmọ do not be misled that is the BROAD road! wink
smiley

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:35pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:
Acts 2:36 God ,his Father made Jesus Christ "Lord" & "Messiah".
Hebrews 1:5,God NEVER gave that privilege to His other sons whether in heaven or earth.
Na Jesus Christ take pass every creature.


Now you are getting close. You'll soon get there, let's keep going;

Is Lord Jesus Son of God the same way you or anyone else is son of God. If not, what's the difference?
John 3:16 Jesus is called " the only begotten son of God."
No other human is addressed in such manner.

Also, Jesus Christ is his Father's "first born son of every creature".
The beginning of his Father's creation.
Genesis 49:3 = Mark 13:19 & Colossians 1:15.

At issue here is the meaning of " Beginning".

@ Mark 13:19, Colossians 1:15 & Genesis 49:3, should we TWIST the meaning of "Beginning"?
No,Definitely !!!!

Romans 11:35-36, Jesus Christ came through his Father.
Oga, did Adam come through his Father?

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:37pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


See this one. He won't answer the question he's asked. Because he knows honestly answering it will mark him an atheist!
Oga, your delusion is luminous.
You evaded 2 questions I asked you.
. cheesy

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Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:38pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


So stop comparing Lord Jesus to Moses. It is RIDICULOUS! Moses was a man! Lord Jesus is of a different substance - the same substance of which His father is made!

Blasphemy!
The Almighty was never MADE!
Jesus was made in the image of God that's why the scriptures called him "Firstborn" of all creations {Colossians 1:15} there's no difference between firstborn and other they're all creatures made in God's image! Genesis 1:26
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:39pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Arrogant idolater!

I'm sorry for you! cheesy
Janosky

What you perceive as arrogance is simply enthusiasm of knowing 100% I am right, and frustration of you not seeing something so obvious:

WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS DOES NOT OFFEND HIS FATHER!!!
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:40pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


So you are confirming you are an atheist, believing there is nothing God can do about people disobeying His number one commandment. He can only helplessly watch and see the churches go from strength to strength
ALL THE CHURCHES DISOBEYING Mark 12:29-30 instructed by Jesus Christ.

Re: How Is Jesus God ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:43pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


What you perceive as arrogance is simply enthusiasm of knowing 100% I am right, and frustration of you not seeing something so obvious:

WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS DOES NOT OFFEND HIS FATHER!!!

"I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images" Isaiah 42:8

Compare to Revelations 4:11 smiley
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by PoliteActivist: 2:44pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Blasphemy!
The Almighty was never MADE!
Jesus was made in the image of God that's why the scriptures called him "Firstborn" of all creations {Colossians 1:15} there's no difference between firstborn and other they're all creatures made in God's image! Genesis 1:26

There you go, making a fool of yourself again. Everybody knows I don't mean "made" in that sense. How can God be made. I obviously mean He is of same substance as the Father
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:45pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


What you perceive as arrogance is simply enthusiasm of knowing 100% I am right, and frustration of you not seeing something so obvious:

WORSHIPPING LORD JESUS DOES NOT OFFEND HIS FATHER!!!
In your Bible, which believers worshipped Jesus?

Jesus spoke @John 9:4. John 12:49 & Mark 12:29-30.
Oga, pls don't deceive yourself.
Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Janosky: 2:46pm On Aug 11, 2022
PoliteActivist:


There you go, making a fool of yourself again. Everybody knows I don't mean "made" in that sense. How can God be made. I obviously mean He is of same substance as the Father
What do you understand by "substance"?
Please explain,Sir.

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