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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Spandau: 2:04pm On Aug 13, 2022
Amodi470:
This should serve as a lesson to other people who blasphemous Insult the Messenger of Allah (S.W.T).
You can abuse God (That's between you and Him) but not his messenger (S.A.W)
This is all you should know.

Invariably, the messenger is greater than the sender. Is that not madness? What exactly are you guys trying to hide that you get so desperate anytime that lying bastard is criticized? I mean, you say all kinds of shit about Jesus and the Bible and about Christians and Israel but nobody gets mad or loose his peace. Why is it that you guys loose your minds anytime your faith is examined or criticized?

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by hahn(m): 2:31pm On Aug 13, 2022
Make him no go rush die o
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aariwa(m): 2:49pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Yes i wil behead you with facts and evidences that xtianity is nvr d true path to salvation....it was only a creation of Paul years after the departure of jesus...he fabricated evrtn for you pools to bliv...

The jews laugh at ur stupidity...if u want us to get deep...am ready to expose you
Islam is a religion of piss and poo because Mohamid is a dead god who can’t fight for himself that why all this rubbish continue happening
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aariwa(m): 2:51pm On Aug 13, 2022
Throwback:
I remember the Nairaland member who borrowed that name for his Username.

I hope this attack is not an attempt to execute the Fatwa placed on him?

Human life means nothing to some people.

It reminds me of a certain Mauritanian who wants to become Nigerian Vice President. His greatest achievement as Senator was to advocate for genocide of Nigerian gays and lesbians, while his fellow Senators were fighting for the rights of Nigerians.



I hope zombiedients can see why we will never allow IPOBocrazy to overshadow our Democracy.

That disease that cannot tolerate dissent and divergence, must be quarantined to the SouthEast that it has already ravaged.
slam is a religion of piss and poo because Mohamid is a dead god who can’t fight for himself that why all this rubbish continue happening.Continue living in a dream with your moslem-muslim ticket fantasy

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 4:40pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
Muhammid read or heard about the stories in the Christian and Jewish story book and then adopted them for Arabs because Arabs always felt inferior to Jews.
The starting point is the The Jewish Story book is fiction and therefore everything Mohammed came up with is equally fictional
Black Africans have no business with Islam or Christianity because they are base on the same fiction Muhammed COPIED the Torah and Bible and then appropriated it to make Arabs feel good
Originally when Muhammid was in Mecca he prayed facing Jerusalem and tried very hard for Jews to recognize him. They dismissed him as a fraud an years later when in Mecca he carried out a genocide against them whilst operating as a bandit and kidnapper.
He then came up with the idea of facing Mecca.
Also the pilgrimage to Mecca and so called stoning of devil are based on the Arab idolatry practice in Mecca. To return from Medina Mohammed did a deal with the people of Mecca that he would continue the Pilgrimage and replace their deities with Allah. The people of Mecca have made money for centuries before Muhammid was born with their rituals and continue to do so from brainwashed foreigners
Christian apologists, especially the less
educated ones, often times accuse the Quran of having copied from the Bible. This, they argue, shows that Islam is not from God butis rather a man-made religion.

But this argument can be very easily refuted.
brainless Christian apologist
uses this argument, just give him/her the
following history lesson:

1. The Bible refers to the ruler of Egypt in the times of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them) as "Pharaoh" (Genesis 12, 37).

2. Both the Bible and the Quran refer to the Egyptian ruler during the time of Moses (peace be upon him) as "Pharaoh".

3. While the title was used in the time of Moses (peace be upon him), it was NOT used to refer to the Egyptian king in earlier times, such as those of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them), which means that the Bible's use of the
term in Genesis is an anachronism.

4. If the charge of "plagiarism" is accurate, then we should expect that the Quran would repeat the error in the Bible when recounting the story of Joseph (Surah 12). And yet, we find that the
Arabic word "firaun" is ONLY used to describe the Egyptian king in the time of Moses (peace be upon him) but NEVER in the time of Joseph (peace be upon him).

5. How could the author of the Quran, assuming He was copying the Bible or other Jewish stories in 7th century Arabia, have known NOT to use the title "firaun" when referring to the Egyptian ruler in the time of Joseph (peace be
upon him)? The "plagiarism" argument
immediately breaks down!


The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors. For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:
"..And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE
(Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)

Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didnt Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom... etc.

Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses..or
"Moses went to that place....", etc... We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial. Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!

The Bible is a history book. It is not the perfect Word of GOD Almighty. Both the Bible's theologians and the Noble Quran fully recognize that the Bible had been altered and corrupted, and its original manuscripts had been lost.
Therefore, it is not rational nor fair to judge the Noble Quran and Its Divinity using the Bible, especially when the Noble Quran had been proven beyond doubt (as shown above) to be a Miraculous Holy Book with many Prophecies that had been fulfilled.
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 4:48pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Christian apologists, especially the less
educated ones, often times accuse the Quran of having copied from the Bible. This, they argue, shows that Islam is not from God butis rather a man-made religion.

But this argument can be very easily refuted.
brainless Christian apologist
uses this argument, just give him/her the
following history lesson:

1. The Bible refers to the ruler of Egypt in the times of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them) as "Pharaoh" (Genesis 12, 37).

2. Both the Bible and the Quran refer to the Egyptian ruler during the time of Moses (peace be upon him) as "Pharaoh".

3. While the title was used in the time of Moses (peace be upon him), it was NOT used to refer to the Egyptian king in earlier times, such as those of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them), which means that the Bible's use of the
term in Genesis is an anachronism.

4. If the charge of "plagiarism" is accurate, then we should expect that the Quran would repeat the error in the Bible when recounting the story of Joseph (Surah 12). And yet, we find that the
Arabic word "firaun" is ONLY used to describe the Egyptian king in the time of Moses (peace be upon him) but NEVER in the time of Joseph (peace be upon him).

5. How could the author of the Quran, assuming He was copying the Bible or other Jewish stories in 7th century Arabia, have known NOT to use the title "firaun" when referring to the Egyptian ruler in the time of Joseph (peace be
upon him)? The "plagiarism" argument
immediately breaks down!


The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors. For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:
"..And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE
(Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)

Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didnt Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom... etc.

Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses..or
"Moses went to that place....", etc... We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial. Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!

The Bible is a history book. It is not the perfect Word of GOD Almighty. Both the Bible's theologians and the Noble Quran fully recognize that the Bible had been altered and corrupted, and its original manuscripts had been lost.
Therefore, it is not rational nor fair to judge the Noble Quran and Its Divinity using the Bible, especially when the Noble Quran had been proven beyond doubt (as shown above) to be a Miraculous Holy Book with many Prophecies that had been fulfilled.
I am a proud Ogun worshipper. You like most Muslims are programmed to talk your usual rubbish about Christians. Well I am not a Christian.

The truth is that Muhammid copied the bible and modified it for Arabs

Both the Bible and the Quran are not for Africans

There is nothing noble about the Quran .It is total fiction
According to the Quran Allah ordered Muhammid's adopted son to divorce his wife so that Muhamid could marry her

That will work in an Arab mind

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 6:29pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
I am a proud Ogun worshipper. You like most Muslims are programmed to talk your usual rubbish about Christians. Well I am not a Christian.

The truth is that Muhammid copied the bible and modified it for Arabs

Both the Bible and the Quran are not for Africans

There is nothing noble about the Quran .It is total fiction
According to the Quran Allah ordered Muhammid's adopted son to divorce his wife so that Muhamid could marry her

That will work in an Arab mind
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan


Why must you lie?

Idiot a coward hiding online


Be bold enough to refute ny claims and stop empty rantings...

Wawa arnen banza
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 6:35pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan


Why must you lie?

Idiot a coward hiding online


Be bold enough to refute ny claims and stop empty rantings...

Wawa arnen banza

Your mouth no big pass my own . All your abuses right back at you and Mujhammid
So what is wrong with polytheism? I am proud of it. Don't you worship Muhammid? You do but do not know that you do
You mention his name anytime you pray . You mumble SAW anytime his name is mentioned. Is that not worship? You murder people in his name . What is that?

What is the origin of stoning Shaitan is it not from the polytheism of Mecca? All the ritualls of Hajj are they not from the polytheism of Mecca?
But Muhammid married a child and then got Allah to release a sura commanding his son to divorce his wife so he could marry her after Muhammid saw her laps and lusted after her

Did Muhammid marry a girl child ? Yes or No?

Muhammid copied the Bible

Many of the stories in the Bible are fiction
The fact that Muhammid reproduced them claiming they were from Allah is telling

I know right now you must feel like beheading me. but that is just impotent rage.

Those with impotent rage will Do as is stated in Sura 3 ; 119

They will P.............

Yes Muhammid was aware of the Bible and the Quran and adjusted it for Arabs. He made it up.. No one revealed anything to him

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 6:48pm On Aug 13, 2022
Amodi470:
This should serve as a lesson to other people who blasphemous Insult the Messenger of Allah (S.W.T).
You can abuse God (That's between you and Him) but not his messenger (S.A.W)
This is all you should know.
Will it stop the so called blasphemy

Did Muhamid not marry a girl child? Was he not a pedophile?
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 6:53pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Christian apologists, especially the less
educated ones, often times accuse the Quran of having copied from the Bible. This, they argue, shows that Islam is not from God butis rather a man-made religion.

But this argument can be very easily refuted.
brainless Christian apologist
uses this argument, just give him/her the
following history lesson:

1. The Bible refers to the ruler of Egypt in the times of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them) as "Pharaoh" (Genesis 12, 37).

2. Both the Bible and the Quran refer to the Egyptian ruler during the time of Moses (peace be upon him) as "Pharaoh".

3. While the title was used in the time of Moses (peace be upon him), it was NOT used to refer to the Egyptian king in earlier times, such as those of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them), which means that the Bible's use of the
term in Genesis is an anachronism.

4. If the charge of "plagiarism" is accurate, then we should expect that the Quran would repeat the error in the Bible when recounting the story of Joseph (Surah 12). And yet, we find that the
Arabic word "firaun" is ONLY used to describe the Egyptian king in the time of Moses (peace be upon him) but NEVER in the time of Joseph (peace be upon him).

5. How could the author of the Quran, assuming He was copying the Bible or other Jewish stories in 7th century Arabia, have known NOT to use the title "firaun" when referring to the Egyptian ruler in the time of Joseph (peace be
upon him)? The "plagiarism" argument
immediately breaks down!


The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors. For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:
"..And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE
(Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)

Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didnt Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom... etc.

Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses..or
"Moses went to that place....", etc... We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial. Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!

The Bible is a history book. It is not the perfect Word of GOD Almighty. Both the Bible's theologians and the Noble Quran fully recognize that the Bible had been altered and corrupted, and its original manuscripts had been lost.
Therefore, it is not rational nor fair to judge the Noble Quran and Its Divinity using the Bible, especially when the Noble Quran had been proven beyond doubt (as shown above) to be a Miraculous Holy Book with many Prophecies that had been fulfilled.
There is nothing like Word of Gord Almighty

No one has seen God Almighty

The Bible is just the myths of Middle Eastern People just like myths of Bayajidda and so on they are fiction. Muhammed knew of these stories and adjusted them for Arabs . That is all there is to it. When he started in Mecca he was facing Jerusalem to pray until he went to Medina and felt humiliated because the Jews there dismissed him as a fraud

Why did he conduct a genocide on the Jews of Banu Qurayzah?
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by egobetatoday: 7:19pm On Aug 13, 2022
happney65:
Salman Rushdie "satanic verses" showed Islam in it's true sense of the word. Dude even wrote another book in which he tried to tone it down a little bit but still yet they declared a fatwa on his head to kill him at all cost . Maybe the killing don happen now at last

Another book you should read on the violent nature of Islam is "Who is this Allah" by G J O Morshay. Another blockbuster

And if you prefer audio, just go to YouTube and type Arabian prophet. The man, an Arab speaking Christian don use dem do yeye...open fowl nyash well well �
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 7:23pm On Aug 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
Thanks. Know where I can get the hard copy?
Alaseju ni e
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 7:25pm On Aug 13, 2022
Angelfrost:


That will be very hard now due to the controversial nature of the book.

Most book sellers won't even display it on their shelves.
It is on amazon and there is an audio version
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by egobetatoday: 7:29pm On Aug 13, 2022
Shimran:


Same way your God couldn't do anything to save his helpless son from the forced crucifixion

You mean the crucifixion that was planned in heaven before Jesus was born. � he was so helpless all to save us lol
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 7:31pm On Aug 13, 2022
Bar1941:


The attack is totally condemned but we need to know that in as much the book he published 34years ago is still in existence, it effects will surely still be in existence. BTW why should someone write a book just to disrespect or cause unnecessary unrest in other people's faith? Their are a lot of things we can write or talk about and lately we know how intolerant some people could get over religious matter, why can't we just abide by the simple principle of 'respect other people's religion and beliefs'.
Every religion disrespects another belief
That is inevitable

If you say there is a God you are on a collision course with those who say there is no God

If you say there is only one God you are on a collision course with polytheists
When you say Only a fool will say there is no God you are disrespecting someone

When you call someone's religious belief Juju , fetish etc there will be tension and conflict/

If you have the right to say there is God some other person has the right to say there is nothing like that
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by ShaqFu: 7:32pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
Alaseju ni e
get lost.
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 7:33pm On Aug 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
get lost.
Wo ma wa e ti
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by ShaqFu: 7:33pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
Wo ma wa e ti
go get a job
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 7:34pm On Aug 13, 2022
ShaqFu:
go get a job

O ma rin lo
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Missionaire: 8:09pm On Aug 13, 2022
magzey:
The guy try Wella by getting the Rushdie Niggar grin grin
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Spandau: 10:23pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan


Why must you lie?

Idiot a coward hiding online


Be bold enough to refute ny claims and stop empty rantings...

Wawa arnen banza

The guy boldly and unashamedly professed to be an Ogun worshipper but you still find it so difficult to process. You just must pin it on Christianity; and that shows just how narrow-minded and uninformed you are. For you, any person who doesn't accept Allah or Muhammadu must automatically be a Christian. That's horsecrap. Grow up!

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Spandau: 10:36pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Christian apologists, especially the less
educated ones, often times accuse the Quran of having copied from the Bible. This, they argue, shows that Islam is not from God butis rather a man-made religion.

But this argument can be very easily refuted.
brainless Christian apologist
uses this argument, just give him/her the
following history lesson:

1. The Bible refers to the ruler of Egypt in the times of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them) as "Pharaoh" (Genesis 12, 37).

2. Both the Bible and the Quran refer to the Egyptian ruler during the time of Moses (peace be upon him) as "Pharaoh".

3. While the title was used in the time of Moses (peace be upon him), it was NOT used to refer to the Egyptian king in earlier times, such as those of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them), which means that the Bible's use of the
term in Genesis is an anachronism.

4. If the charge of "plagiarism" is accurate, then we should expect that the Quran would repeat the error in the Bible when recounting the story of Joseph (Surah 12). And yet, we find that the
Arabic word "firaun" is ONLY used to describe the Egyptian king in the time of Moses (peace be upon him) but NEVER in the time of Joseph (peace be upon him).

5. How could the author of the Quran, assuming He was copying the Bible or other Jewish stories in 7th century Arabia, have known NOT to use the title "firaun" when referring to the Egyptian ruler in the time of Joseph (peace be
upon him)? The "plagiarism" argument
immediately breaks down!


The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors. For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:
"..And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE
(Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)

Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didnt Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom... etc.

Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses..or
"Moses went to that place....", etc... We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial. Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!

The Bible is a history book. It is not the perfect Word of GOD Almighty. Both the Bible's theologians and the Noble Quran fully recognize that the Bible had been altered and corrupted, and its original manuscripts had been lost.
Therefore, it is not rational nor fair to judge the Noble Quran and Its Divinity using the Bible, especially when the Noble Quran had been proven beyond doubt (as shown above) to be a Miraculous Holy Book with many Prophecies that had been fulfilled.

See, guy, guy, you just succeeded in reinforcing your tormentor's opinion that the Kuran was a bad carbon copy of the Bible. Everybody knows that Muhammadu was born over 600yrs after Christ exited the physical world, so there is no way Kuran can be on the same historical pedestal as the Torah or the Apostles' writings. Argue from an intelligent point of view and stop being emotional. It makes you look and act like a rabid donkey. The more you post your long, filthy comments in defense of your cult, the more you expose yourself as an uneducated, unexposed psychopath. Christianity is your main enemy, I understand. You cannot destroy it, so you're frustrated. But there are other belief systems in this world other than Christianity which also won't buy the crap that Islam is offering. So stop lumping everyone as Christians. Ok?
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 10:43pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:

Your mouth no big pass my own . All your abuses right back at you and Mujhammid
So what is wrong with polytheism? I am proud of it. Don't you worship Muhammid? You do but do not know that you do
You mention his name anytime you pray . You mumble SAW anytime his name is mentioned. Is that not worship? You murder people in his name . What is that?

What is the origin of stoning Shaitan is it not from the polytheism of Mecca? All the ritualls of Hajj are they not from the polytheism of Mecca?
But Muhammid married a child and then got Allah to release a sura commanding his son to divorce his wife so he could marry her after Muhammid saw her laps and lusted after her

Did Muhammid marry a girl child ? Yes or No?

Muhammid copied the Bible

Many of the stories in the Bible are fiction
The fact that Muhammid reproduced them claiming they were from Allah is telling

I know right now you must feel like beheading me. but that is just impotent rage.

Those with impotent rage will Do as is stated in Sura 3 ; 119

They will P.............

Yes Muhammid was aware of the Bible and the Quran and adjusted it for Arabs. He made it up.. No one revealed anything to him
Verily! this Qur'an guides unto that which is straightest, and gives glad tidings unto the believers who do good works that theirs will be a magnificent reward."

The noble Qur'an, Al-Isra(17):9

birth of Muhammad (pbuh), the Arabian Peninsula was surrounded by a number of great empires. These empires were in a state of constant conflict, waging wars and claiming territories. The boarders of nations were constantly being redrawn, and at times whole nations would crumble under the advancing forces of a more vicious and powerful neighbor. However, in an age when the people of all of these nations had become accustomed to countless rulers, conquerors, philosophies, and religions, throughout all of this, Allah Almighty saw fit to protect the Arabian peninsula from these forces and allow its inhabitants to roam free, with great pride in their freedom, never bowing to man-gods or rulers who claimed to be "incarnations" of mythological gods such as had become the fate of the Persians, the Romans, the Hindus, and many other nations surrounding them. Although steeped in paganism and idol worship, theirs was a simplistic and very basic sort of paganism as compared to the infinitely more complex and multifaceted paganism of the multi-cultured nations surrounding them, their religious philosophies, and their untold rituals.


First, the physical nature of the Stone itself. The Black Stone (al-Hajar al-Aswad) is built into the Ka`abah wall, at the eastern corner of the Ka`abah, about 5 ft. above the ground level, not very far from the door of the Ka`abah. It (now) consists of 3 large pieces and several small fragments (in which it was formerly broken) stuck together and surrounded by a large ring of stone, which in turn is held together by a silver band.


The Black Stone (al-Hajr al-Aswad)

The material of the Black Stone has not been precisely determined. It is sometimes classified as lava and sometimes as basalt. The reason for this difficulty is that its visible surface is worn smooth by hand-touching, etc.1 Its estimated diameter is approximately 12″2. Its colour is reddish black with red and yellow particles.

It is reported that when the Prophet Muhammad(P) entered the city of Makkah as a victorious leader, there were 360 idols around the Ka`abah3. The Prophet(P) then had the Forbidden Sanctuary (the precinct around the Ka`abah proper) cleansed of all these idols and proclaimed Monotheism in its true, most elevated and pristine form. Thus saying that “Muslims worship the Black Stone as an idol” is clearly the most absurd thing ever pronounced in the history of mankind.

From a physical perspective, therefore, the Black Stone does not have any special significance or importance. Umar(R), later to become the second Caliph of Islam, is reported to have said that he fully realized that the Black Stone was merely a stone and thus had no power of its own to harm or benefit anyone4.

As for the reasons as to why we have the Black Stone in the wall of the Ka`abah, we read about the following reasons, that:

(a) it symbolizes the starting-point during the circumambulation of the Ka`abah, thus facilitating the remembrance of the number of circumambulations.
(b) at this point, the Muslims, who are close to the Ka`abah (during their circumambulation) touch the stone, while those who are away from it, raise their hands towards it, symbolizing the renewal of their pledge of allegiance with the Lord of the Ka`abah. In this symbolic expression, the Black Stone is taken as a symbol of an oath on the hand of God.5

And with this, it is clear that this baseless assertion of the Islamophobes is refuted. And only God knows best!


The House/Temple of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bibles:

To help the Jewish and Christian reader understand the Islamic way of Worship better, I'd like to first present the following from the Bibles:

Psalm 138:2
I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

GOD Almighty's Holy Temple in Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca.

THE BLACK STONE IS NOT WORSHIPPED BY Muslims They are not objects of worship. They are only part of Allah Almighty's House of Worship.


Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced.

Bible condones 3-year old girls were raped under the command of Moses and his men:

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that has known a man by sleeping with him. (Number 31:17).
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 10:52pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
There is nothing like Word of Gord Almighty

No one has seen God Almighty

The Bible is just the myths of Middle Eastern People just like myths of Bayajidda and so on they are fiction. Muhammed knew of these stories and adjusted them for Arabs . That is all there is to it. When he started in Mecca he was facing Jerusalem to pray until he went to Medina and felt humiliated because the Jews there dismissed him as a fraud

Why did he conduct a genocide on the Jews of Banu Qurayzah?
Many Christians are often fond of accusing Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink of committing several honor killings in the name of Islam; they then use this line of argument as a reason to discredit Islam in their eyes. In this article we shall once again turn the table on the Christian showing that honor killings can be found in the Bible, and that the Bible is for honor killings! Hence by their own criteria, Christians will have to abandon their own book.



Let us now see the honor killings in the Bibles:



Lev 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.





So note, if the priests daughter commits a bad sexual act, she is to be burned because of her fathers reputation, because it is against his honor. What will Christian say now? This is one example of honor killing in the Bible, in fact the act is ordered by the Bible itself.



"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. (Exodus 21:17)"

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. (Leviticus 20:9)"



So here the children are put to death for insulting their parents, this is another example of honor killings, the children are put to death for dis-honoring their very own parents and the punishment is death.



So we have seen 3 examples of honor killings in the Bible, so since Christians always have a problem with honor killings and say Islam is wrong because of some Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink who commit this act, then the Bible is also wrong for allowing honor killings which also makes their own God wrong, and if God is wrong then he cant God because God is always correct. Either way the Christian is in a bad dilemma.

So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE. Or I see, when its in war it okay? Yet when Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink say the 6th commandment is followed, but in war its different, Christians say nooooo. Either way, The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW. We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to the Christians own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed. Note Moses and his army did this to many cities, verse 37 says there was not one city which was strong enough in the plural sense, hence up to 6 or 7 cities were destroyed with its women and children? What is the Christian response?

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.



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17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves



What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him tried to migrate from Mecca to the city of Al-Ta'if, the pagans there had their own children throw rocks on the Prophet until his face and body were swollen and bleeding. The Prophet peace be upon him prayed for the people of Al-Ta'if to be Guided to Islam. And ultimately they were Guided and they embraced Islam.



While Prophet Muhammad loved and forgave children for throwing stones at him, the Bible shows ZERO tolerance to even innocent name-calling from children; let alone having them throwing stones!!




Numbers 31:17-18
"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

According to the historical elaborations about Numbers 31:17-18 Biblical Verses in the Jewish Talmud, the girls in "every girl who has never slept with a man" were AS YOUNG AS 3 YEARS OLD, and were forced into SEX! See the Talmudic and Biblical proofs and quotes here (Terrorism and Pedophilia against 3-year old slave girls in the Bible).
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 10:55pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Verily! this Qur'an guides unto that which is straightest, and gives glad tidings unto the believers who do good works that theirs will be a magnificent reward."

The noble Qur'an, Al-Isra(17):9

birth of Muhammad (pbuh), the Arabian Peninsula was surrounded by a number of great empires. These empires were in a state of constant conflict, waging wars and claiming territories. The boarders of nations were constantly being redrawn, and at times whole nations would crumble under the advancing forces of a more vicious and powerful neighbor. However, in an age when the people of all of these nations had become accustomed to countless rulers, conquerors, philosophies, and religions, throughout all of this, Allah Almighty saw fit to protect the Arabian peninsula from these forces and allow its inhabitants to roam free, with great pride in their freedom, never bowing to man-gods or rulers who claimed to be "incarnations" of mythological gods such as had become the fate of the Persians, the Romans, the Hindus, and many other nations surrounding them. Although steeped in paganism and idol worship, theirs was a simplistic and very basic sort of paganism as compared to the infinitely more complex and multifaceted paganism of the multi-cultured nations surrounding them, their religious philosophies, and their untold rituals.


First, the physical nature of the Stone itself. The Black Stone (al-Hajar al-Aswad) is built into the Ka`abah wall, at the eastern corner of the Ka`abah, about 5 ft. above the ground level, not very far from the door of the Ka`abah. It (now) consists of 3 large pieces and several small fragments (in which it was formerly broken) stuck together and surrounded by a large ring of stone, which in turn is held together by a silver band.


The Black Stone (al-Hajr al-Aswad)

The material of the Black Stone has not been precisely determined. It is sometimes classified as lava and sometimes as basalt. The reason for this difficulty is that its visible surface is worn smooth by hand-touching, etc.1 Its estimated diameter is approximately 12″2. Its colour is reddish black with red and yellow particles.

It is reported that when the Prophet Muhammad(P) entered the city of Makkah as a victorious leader, there were 360 idols around the Ka`abah3. The Prophet(P) then had the Forbidden Sanctuary (the precinct around the Ka`abah proper) cleansed of all these idols and proclaimed Monotheism in its true, most elevated and pristine form. Thus saying that “Muslims worship the Black Stone as an idol” is clearly the most absurd thing ever pronounced in the history of mankind.

From a physical perspective, therefore, the Black Stone does not have any special significance or importance. Umar(R), later to become the second Caliph of Islam, is reported to have said that he fully realized that the Black Stone was merely a stone and thus had no power of its own to harm or benefit anyone4.

As for the reasons as to why we have the Black Stone in the wall of the Ka`abah, we read about the following reasons, that:

(a) it symbolizes the starting-point during the circumambulation of the Ka`abah, thus facilitating the remembrance of the number of circumambulations.
(b) at this point, the Muslims, who are close to the Ka`abah (during their circumambulation) touch the stone, while those who are away from it, raise their hands towards it, symbolizing the renewal of their pledge of allegiance with the Lord of the Ka`abah. In this symbolic expression, the Black Stone is taken as a symbol of an oath on the hand of God.5

And with this, it is clear that this baseless assertion of the Islamophobes is refuted. And only God knows best!


The House/Temple of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bibles:

To help the Jewish and Christian reader understand the Islamic way of Worship better, I'd like to first present the following from the Bibles:

Psalm 138:2
I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

GOD Almighty's Holy Temple in Islam is the Kaaba in Mecca.

THE BLACK STONE IS NOT WORSHIPPED BY Muslims They are not objects of worship. They are only part of Allah Almighty's House of Worship.


Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced.

Bible condones 3-year old girls were raped under the command of Moses and his men:

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that has known a man by sleeping with him. (Number 31:17).

All these were stories of what happened a long time ago very far away. I believe the Quran is fiction and modified stories that were in the traditions written and oral of the Middle Eastern peoples.
Have we finished our own stories before fighting about black stones in Mecca? You believe what you believe based on the part of the world you were born.

You are not a witness to any of this . A rational person would examine different sources including contradictory ones/
If I am to believe in any God it would be the one that my ancestors followed not that of stone throwing peoples with a propensity to irrational violence

Let me put it like this

Your right to believe is not superior to my right to unbelief. As such blasphemy cannot exist . Imagine if an atheist government says no one should praise God in public. If you have the right to assert a God I have a right to deny him,. Why should you have a right to draw red lines if the atheist cannot?

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 10:56pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
All these were stories of what happened a long time ago very far away. I believe the Quran is fiction and modified stories that were in the traditions written and oral of the Middle Eastern peoples.
Have we finished our own stories before fighting about black stones in Mecca? You believe what you believe based on the part of the world you were born.

You are not a witness to any of this . A rational person would examine different sources including contradictory ones/
If I am to believe in any God it would be the one that my ancestors followed not that of stone throwing peoples with a propensity to irrational violence

Let me put it like this

Your right to believe is not superior to my right to unbelief. As such blasphemy cannot exist . Imagine if an atheist government says no one should praise God in public. If you have the right to assert a God I have a right to deny him,. Why should you have a right to draw red lines if the atheist cannot?
Absolute trash from a dumb mind
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 10:59pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Many Christians are often fond of accusing Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink of committing several honor killings in the name of Islam; they then use this line of argument as a reason to discredit Islam in their eyes. In this article we shall once again turn the table on the Christian showing that honor killings can be found in the Bible, and that the Bible is for honor killings! Hence by their own criteria, Christians will have to abandon their own book.



Let us now see the honor killings in the Bibles:



Lev 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.





So note, if the priests daughter commits a bad sexual act, she is to be burned because of her fathers reputation, because it is against his honor. What will Christian say now? This is one example of honor killing in the Bible, in fact the act is ordered by the Bible itself.



"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. (Exodus 21:17)"

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. (Leviticus 20:9)"



So here the children are put to death for insulting their parents, this is another example of honor killings, the children are put to death for dis-honoring their very own parents and the punishment is death.



So we have seen 3 examples of honor killings in the Bible, so since Christians always have a problem with honor killings and say Islam is wrong because of some Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink who commit this act, then the Bible is also wrong for allowing honor killings which also makes their own God wrong, and if God is wrong then he cant God because God is always correct. Either way the Christian is in a bad dilemma.

So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE. Or I see, when its in war it okay? Yet when Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink say the 6th commandment is followed, but in war its different, Christians say nooooo. Either way, The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW. We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to the Christians own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed. Note Moses and his army did this to many cities, verse 37 says there was not one city which was strong enough in the plural sense, hence up to 6 or 7 cities were destroyed with its women and children? What is the Christian response?

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.



17-18



17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves



What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him tried to migrate from Mecca to the city of Al-Ta'if, the pagans there had their own children throw rocks on the Prophet until his face and body were swollen and bleeding. The Prophet peace be upon him prayed for the people of Al-Ta'if to be Guided to Islam. And ultimately they were Guided and they embraced Islam.



While Prophet Muhammad loved and forgave children for throwing stones at him, the Bible shows ZERO tolerance to even innocent name-calling from children; let alone having them throwing stones!!




Numbers 31:17-18
"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

According to the historical elaborations about Numbers 31:17-18 Biblical Verses in the Jewish Talmud, the girls in "every girl who has never slept with a man" were AS YOUNG AS 3 YEARS OLD, and were forced into SEX! See the Talmudic and Biblical proofs and quotes here (Terrorism and Pedophilia against 3-year old slave girls in the Bible).

I am not a Christian
It seems your app is programmed only to debate Christians. As far as I an concerned Islam and Christianity are like the left and right buttocks we know what is in the middle. Those two religions are among the worst evil that befell the black people in Africa. I repeat the word for emphasis. They are evil. Before they arrived we never had religious killing though Islam takes a greater share.
Imagine what happened in Owo? That is Islam for you

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Ibkhaleel: 11:01pm On Aug 13, 2022
aribisala0:
I am not a Christian
It seems your app is programmed only to debate Christians. As far as I an concerned Islam and Christianity are like the left and right buttocks we know what is in the middle. Those two religions are among the worst evil that befell the black people in Africa. I repeat the word for emphasis. They are evil. Before they arrived we never had religious killing though Islam takes a greater share.
Imagine what happened in Owo? That is Islam for you
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan...bury your head in shame....


Islam has come to stay...

I pity you hellbound creature
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 11:11pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Many Christians are often fond of accusing Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink of committing several honor killings in the name of Islam; they then use this line of argument as a reason to discredit Islam in their eyes. In this article we shall once again turn the table on the Christian showing that honor killings can be found in the Bible, and that the Bible is for honor killings! Hence by their own criteria, Christians will have to abandon their own book.



Let us now see the honor killings in the Bibles:



Lev 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.





So note, if the priests daughter commits a bad sexual act, she is to be burned because of her fathers reputation, because it is against his honor. What will Christian say now? This is one example of honor killing in the Bible, in fact the act is ordered by the Bible itself.



"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. (Exodus 21:17)"

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. (Leviticus 20:9)"



So here the children are put to death for insulting their parents, this is another example of honor killings, the children are put to death for dis-honoring their very own parents and the punishment is death.



So we have seen 3 examples of honor killings in the Bible, so since Christians always have a problem with honor killings and say Islam is wrong because of some Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink who commit this act, then the Bible is also wrong for allowing honor killings which also makes their own God wrong, and if God is wrong then he cant God because God is always correct. Either way the Christian is in a bad dilemma.

So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE. Or I see, when its in war it okay? Yet when Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"wink say the 6th commandment is followed, but in war its different, Christians say nooooo. Either way, The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW. We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to the Christians own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed. Note Moses and his army did this to many cities, verse 37 says there was not one city which was strong enough in the plural sense, hence up to 6 or 7 cities were destroyed with its women and children? What is the Christian response?

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.



17-18



17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves



What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him tried to migrate from Mecca to the city of Al-Ta'if, the pagans there had their own children throw rocks on the Prophet until his face and body were swollen and bleeding. The Prophet peace be upon him prayed for the people of Al-Ta'if to be Guided to Islam. And ultimately they were Guided and they embraced Islam.



While Prophet Muhammad loved and forgave children for throwing stones at him, the Bible shows ZERO tolerance to even innocent name-calling from children; let alone having them throwing stones!!




Numbers 31:17-18
"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

According to the historical elaborations about Numbers 31:17-18 Biblical Verses in the Jewish Talmud, the girls in "every girl who has never slept with a man" were AS YOUNG AS 3 YEARS OLD, and were forced into SEX! See the Talmudic and Biblical proofs and quotes here (Terrorism and Pedophilia against 3-year old slave girls in the Bible).

Like I said I believe the Bible and Quran are fiction so I do not them seriously. BUT I have s studied both and read both the Quran and bible cover to cover at least 30 times each

Do you know the difference between Christianity and Judaism?
What are the teachings of Judaism that Christians disagree with?
Was Moses a Christian?

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Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by aribisala0(m): 11:16pm On Aug 13, 2022
Ibkhaleel:
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan...bury your head in shame....


Islam has come to stay...

I pity you hellbound creature
Does Islam encourage you to call me a "shameless polytheist pagan" ? Is that peaceful talk?

Do you see yourself here as a good ambassador of Islam?
You believe the Quran is the word of God . I have the right to believe it is rubbish.
Threatening me with hell is unnecessary aggression but exactly what Islam is known for especially when Muslims are majority
You think you have the right to call people pagan is that not a reflex blasphemy?
You have zero understanding of how to live in peace with people that do not buy Islam. So in Northern Nigeria Christians are dominated and some even forced to bear names like Mohammed.

Well in Yoruba land you can believe what you like and say what you like.
I do not believe that there is any thing Noble about your Quran. Do I have a right to that? Yes or No
Re: Salman Rushdie, Author Of "The Satanic Verses" Attacked, Condition Unknown by Shimran(m): 11:19pm On Aug 13, 2022
egobetatoday:


You mean the crucifixion that was planned in heaven before Jesus was born. � he was so helpless all to save us lol

No! I mean the one been taught in the churches, i.e crucifiction

Put forward your evidences for Jesus crucifixion.

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