Ballzproblemm:
I think you should face your team and let actual Chelsea fans deal with their issue

Remind me my team again

omo this life is funny ,one moment you are the biggest team in the world , winning league back to back another moment you are struggling battling with the likes of crystal palace to escape relegation the sad tale of Man U ,the sinking ship ,they choose to sign flops and pay them fat cheques , now Even the fat cheques can't attract average players

Ibime:


It's a tricky one. Both positions are valid. If the referee misses it, VAR is only there to judge if it's violent conduct. If VAR deems it a foul, but not violent conduct, play will continue as it did. Anything beyond violent conduct and a red card for Romero is beyond VARs remit in that situation. So the question is not whether it's a foul. If it's a foul, play continues. Play only stops and freekick.to Chelsea if it's a red card ie VAR overruling the referee.

The right decision is a red card and which gives Chelsea the free kick that what I'm trying to say.

The corner (the first one) was in play when the foul occur so that's a foul and a free kick to Chelsea. The severity of the foul will determine the card.

Put an AM on Jorginho, Typical silly talk

I didnt know the function of an AM was to man mark Jorginho. He's so shite that an opposition coach must keep sending AM's to mark him out of the game

The good news today is that was a solid display, much improved from the Everton one with Jorgiboy (albeit the mistake) being the fulcrum and immaculately controlling the tempo. Also the tactical switches from TT made me realise he's still as solid as he was 2 seasons ago

Anyway the bad news is that that's likely a muscle injury from Kante and he'll likely be away for a while(2 months plus)

Ibime:


It's a tricky one. Both positions are valid. If the referee misses it, VAR is only there to judge if it's violent conduct. If VAR deems it a foul, but not violent conduct, play will continue as it did. Anything beyond violent conduct and a red card for Romero is beyond VARs remit in that situation. So the question is not whether it's a foul. If it's a foul, play continues. Play only stops and freekick.to Chelsea if it's a red card ie VAR overruling the referee.

but don't you think that's a red card??... I'm just trying to imagine if reverse was the case where Cucu is pulling remero, VAR would have awarded a penalty

lateefGRDT:
but don't you think that's a red card??... I'm just trying to imagine if reverse was the case where Cucu is pulling remero, VAR would have awarded a penalty

It's a red card for sure. But an ordinary foul won't pull play back there.

User09:
Put an AM on Jorginho, Typical silly talk

I didnt know the function of an AM was to man mark Jorginho. He's so shite that an opposition coach must keep sending AM's to mark him out of the game

The pressing function of an AM is to press the DM area and Jogginghoe has never been able to live with that.

2 points dropped today from your paperweight and we are only two games in. At least 5 clear such incidents last season dropping points for Chelsea not to mention numerous escorts a faster DM would have stopped.

Keep praising your paperweight while we drop points and disappear from the title race. Jogginghoe didn't do nada today, Spurs couldn't live with, or play out from the Kante, Havertz and Mount press, allowing Jogginghoe all the time to denge pose until a real press was put on him and he gave up the game, leaving many to recount the amount of points he drops Chelsea every season as below. I will personally count 5 of these pressing errors every season. That's 10 points Jogginghoe will put us behind Man City before kicking a ball, guaranteed. Maybe next time you will grow balls and quote me directly.

BlueAngel444:
Jorginho sometimes doesn't need to be too cool in dangerous positions time and again dude won't clear ball on time. 30years old and still making the same mistakes every season

pamcode:
Jorginho is a big fool. Clear ball, mugu always costing us with his gaffs like this. I remember West ham last season. He and Mendy gave them a way back into the match.

TT's post match interview.

Thomas, let’s start with the obvious, the handshake and the bus

I just compared it to two players who had a bit of fight on the field and nothing happens. Nobody gets injured and the players, if you have a hard tackle or fair tackle, if you don’t go and apologise, there’s no need

“It’s Premier League football and the two managers got involved today because both of us were fighting for our teams. That was it, nobody got insulted, nobody got hurt, we didn’t have a fist fight or something.

“For me, it’s not a big deal. It was part of it today and it boiled of course and it featured us. Both nothing bad. Today it was part of the ban.”

Have you had a chance to speak with Antonio since?

“Not yet. I don’t have any bad feeling and I’m sure he will not have. We fought for our teams and it happens. It’s so close here and it was such an intense match…both dugouts are very close so it got a bit heated from both of us.”

You enjoyed it really, didn’t you?

“Yes and I think he enjoyed it as well. It was nothing bad.”

Do you have more of a problem with the referee, Thomas?

“Today? Absolutely.”

Some of the fans think he’s made a few bad decisions against Chelsea…

“I don’t think just some of the fans think that. I can assure you the whole dressing room of us, every single person, thinks that. I can’t understand how the first goal is not offside and I can’t understand when a player is pulled by their hair, the other player stays on the pitch. Pull someone else’s hair, stay on the pitch and attack the last corner. This is for me without any explanation and I don’t want to accept it. Both goals should not stand and it’s a fair result because we were brilliant, deserved to win. This is my point of view.”

Is part of the frustration and emotion that you’ve lost two points that you deserved?

“Yes, but it happens. It happens during the life a football coach and a team. In football, and as players, you sometimes get caught in the last minute and we will hopefully have it in the season that we will steal some points and be decisive. This can happen. But it can’t happen when we have VAR at this kind of level. It can’t happen that goals are allowed that are simply irregular goals. This is the frustration and it’s unacceptable.

"I think we know what we did, the players know the input they put into the game mentally and physically. We were so sharp, fully on, and played a brilliant match. What a step up for us from the first game against Everton. I’m disappointed for the players that they don’t get the reward. It’s actually down to incredible decisions.”

There have been issues with this referee that fans think have gone on for quite a while…

Not only the fans. You know the players, they know what’s going on when they are on the pitch. They know it.”

Are they worried when it’s this referee?

“Yeah, of course.”

N’Golo Kante seemed to hobble off with muscle injury, is that correct and is there any indication of how serious it is?

“It seems another muscle injury, the hamstring. He said he feels it pretty strong. So no good news. "

You and the players feel there is an issue [with Anthony Taylor] and the fans feel he shouldn’t referee Chelsea games…

“Maybe it would be better. Maybe it would be better. But honestly, we also have VAR to help make the right decision. Since when can players be pulled by hair? Since when is that [not a foul]? If he does not see it, I do not blame him. I didn’t see it. But we have people at VAR who check this. Then you see it and how can this not be a free-kick and a red card? This doesn’t even had to do with the referee in this case. If he does not see something, that’s why we have people to check if there is a decisive error going on.”

The referees have been given the direction to let the games flow more and not give every foul, is this the new reality that some fouls won’t be given?

“Some fouls won’t be given? We still have rules and I’m surprised when there is a 50/50 challenge with Harry Kane in the build-up to the last goal and it’s worth whistling because none of the players expected a free-kick because it wasn’t a free-kick. But suddenly it is.

“When Reece James did a tactical foul it was a yellow card, how many tactical fouls did (Pierre-Emile) Hojbjerg do today? He hit Reece James in his neck in front of both benches and the fourth official told me they’d go back to it because it was advantage. Did he go back to it? No he did not.

“Bentancur did three, four, five, six tactical fouls [and didn’t get a yellow card]. It’s a clear foul on Kai Havertz who goes towards goal. It stands and goes and it’s the build to the 1-1. Huge, huge misinterpretation of situations. I’m happy to let the game go, but let it go in every direction please and not like this. This is, yeah, it’s what it is today and it will not go away. I don’t even know if I will get punished for my sentences now. So it’s the same.”

4-2-2-2 in attack and 3-4-3 in defence. Tuchel used this formation to destroy Conte last season and it worked even today just couldn't bury the game. TT also used this same formation against Madrid in the return leg in Spain.

I will love to see Reece James playing the loftus cheek role in this formation, the other player tuchel has used in this role is Hakim Ziyech during the carabao cup first leg last season.

One day, we’ll discuss how tactically poor Conte has proven to be after getting figured out with his pattern of play.

forgiveness:


If Reece is out due to injury, who will replace him?

Gordon is an attacker, he plays as a left winger forward.

Ballzproblemm:
the guy no dey see ball like that since the arrival of Nunes and Diaz. ,so it will be safe to say he wants more playing time

Jota is injured.

Suddenly now agrees that lazy ninny Havertz pressed all game just to posit that J5 was posing all game

Guess what TT's response was when asked if he blamed Jorgiboy for the goal. He said and I quote " 'How can I be angry with him if the goal was offside?!" So much for costing us the game

I'll keep saying it. TT and The top footballing guys do not see these things that his haters see. There's only so many people he can fool for so long. At some point u'll have to realise the criticisms are not getting anywhere. Let FDJ come first

lateefGRDT:
both Chelsea and Everton are mad..
How can we bid such amount for him, many agents and club will take advantage of that.. I mean if you can bid 40m for gordons then you should bid more for our player"....
Everton too dey ment for rejecting such a bid

Chelsea are stupid sha, why not do a player plus cash deal for the player if you really need him. £40 million for a player that doesn't have upto 10 league goals.

I hope we get a striker that guarantees goals before the end of the window.
TT is a boss, 4 games and Conte ( who is a top coach himself ) can't steal a win against him.

User09:
Suddenly now agrees that lazy ninny Havertz pressed all game just to posit that J5 was posing all game

Yes Havertz pressed and has been pressing well ever since he left the midfield 3 and was put in the forward positions. Not had that complaint about him since he moved position.

The pressing outfoxed Spurs as usual, which is what the analysts highlighted, not Jogginghoe recycling 20 yards behind with all the time in the world only to fück up the first time he was put under pressure.

Offside is irrelevant. The goal was caused by Jogginghoe, now looking for referee decision to save him. TT trying to save his player face don't mean shit. When TT saw that Spurs had another presser upfront, he didn't trust your paperweight to handle it, took him off and put RLC there. There is no singular reason for RLC to be trusted in the DM position more than Jogginghoe except TT lack of faith in the circumstances of the game which was now a high press for Spurs. It's not even the first time he's done that, it happened several times last season. Either that, or TT was pissed off at his mistake and yanked him off, thereby invalidating the referee blaming excuse which is what managers often use to take pressure off their players.

No need side talking like fear fear man. If you want to address me, address me direct.

OVA200:
I think you are getting the situation wrong.
The pulling of the hair is from the first corner which Mendy tipped over the bar for another corner which resulted into the goal.

If the foul was awarded they won't take the corner.

If Chelsea were awarded a penalty, and whilst getting ready to take it, Havertz strikes Romero in the face. Will the ref give Havertz a red card and take the penalty away from Chelsea or will he give Havertz a red card and still allow Chelsea play the PK? My argument is, that according to the rules, the latter is what will happen.

I think the confusion here is from the word foul and misconduct. Foul is an infraction that occurs when the ball is in active play. A misconduct is any infraction when the ball is not in active play.

How I recall the event is, Perisic took the corner but the ref had been alerted in his ear that VAR was checking for an event that began before Perisic took the corner. VAR decided that the event was insignificant and so Taylor allowed the next play of events to happen which was another corner kick.

However, I was positing that, even if the ref had given Romero a yellow or red card for the hair pulling, Taylor would still have allowed Perisic to take the corner because I judged the hair-pulling as an event that had started before Perisic took the original corner. I could be wrong about my recollection, but that was what I thought happened, and in that case, the ball would not have been given to Chelsea.

Ibime:


Yes Havertz pressed and has been pressing well ever since he left the midfield 3 and was put in the forward positions. Not had that complaint about him since he moved position.

The pressing outfoxed Spurs as usual, which is what the analysts highlighted, not Jogginghoe recycling 20 yards behind with all the time in the world only to fück up the first time he was put under pressure.

No need side talking like fear fear man. If you want to address me, address me direct.

I wonder why people don't see this tho, once you don't press jorginho, he will turn to prime xabi and control the game but once you press him issues will come and it was even clear today. Spurs were not in the game cos we outnumbered them in the middle with the 2 - 2 box mildfild in possession, jorginho was always the free man. When Richarlison was put on him we all saw what happen.

Another match that describe jorginho as a player was the euro finals against Italy. I think Southgate played mount on him in the first half and he struggled and in the second half mumugate didn't press him and he dominated.

kingBolton:

I wonder why people don't see this tho, once you don't press jorginho, he will turn to prime xabi and control the game but once you press him issues will come and it was even clear today. Spurs were not in the game cos we outnumbered them in the middle with the 2 - 2 box mildfild in possession, jorginho was always the free man. When Richarlison was put on him we all saw what happen.

Another match that describe jorginho as a player was the euro finals against Italy. I think Southgate played mount on him in the first half and he struggled and in the second half mumugate didn't press him and he dominated.

Before this season end, we will count 5 times that Jogginghoe buckled under the press and gave away points. Today is number 1. Every season I count 5 or so.

That's not counting the amount of times he would be escorting and the camera man left him behind so we won't see him on the scene of the crime to blame him.

Spuds midfield were so busy dealing with Kante line breaking runs, and their defence couldn't pass out from Mount, Havertz and Sterling press, he was literally smoking cigar in that first half forming boss, until Richarlison came in to give him job, and he failed woefully

Android22:
If Chelsea were awarded a penalty, and whilst getting ready to take it, Havertz strikes Romero in the face. Will the ref give Havertz a red card and take the penalty away from Chelsea or will he give Havertz a red card and still allow Chelsea play the PK? My argument is, that according to the rules, the latter is what will happen.

I think the confusion here is from the word foul and misconduct. Foul is an infraction that occurs when the ball is in active play. A misconduct is any infraction when the ball is not in active play.

How I recall the event is, Perisic took the corner but the ref had been alerted in his ear that VAR was checking for an event that began before Perisic took the corner. VAR decided that the event was insignificant and so Taylor allowed the next play of events to happen which was another corner kick.

However, I was positing that, even if the ref had given Romero a yellow or red card for the hair pulling, Taylor would still have allowed Perisic to take the corner because I judged the hair-pulling as an event that had started before Perisic took the original corner. I could be wrong about my recollection, but that was what I thought happened, and in that case, the ball would not have been given to Chelsea.

You still get it wrong.
It is two separate corners not a retaken corner, the first corner was tipped over the bar by Mendy which resulted to another corner then VAR reviewing the incident made Taylor to ask perisic to pause from taking the 2nd corner and after the review he ask him to proceed.

This is what happen; Spurs win a corner from bissouma deflected shot and when perisic take the corner that's when pulling of the hair happen because both player are tussling it for the ball and Davies nod the ball goalward which Mendy tipped over the bar which resulted in another corner but before taking the corner VAR stepped in to review the incident in the first corner.

Two things to Note is ; 1. It's two different corner.
2. The ball is in play when the foul happen.

I understand your narration about violence misconduct; it's like saying during a corner or throw in a player headbutt another player that won't change where the throw in is going to.

But the incident today happen almost every match with high volume of corner kicks.
Player pulling their shirts during corner which results in a foul and free kick to the defending team and a penalty to the attacking team but the difference today is that it's not shirt pulling but hair pulling.

The 1st picture perisic already played the ball.

2nd picture the ball was already on air in the box (that's when hair pulling happened).

3rd picture when Davies nod the ball which Mendy tipped over the bar for another corner.

You agree with me now.

Why all these noise about jorginho??

I want you all to just click this link , it takes you 10 pages back, see how this whole page was all about praising jorginho midway into the match.
See the voluminous number of likes on each post because everyone was in tune with how jorginho played today. Even from some of his staunchest critics.

So why would a single error neutralize his excellence throughout the match?

Just checkout the econiums showered on jorginho here.
https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/15169#115698882

Secondly, need I remind that jorginho vs the tout have met more than 10 times in their head to head and the tout is yet to come out victorious in any of those meetings, as a Matter of fact this is his first draw with Chelsea and first time in 6 games, his team has even scored Chelsea. So I don't know what the fuss is all about.

Chelsea played very well. All DMs will always have a turnover of possession and it will sometimes be punished, dame with defenders.

Singapore1:
FBS stop mentioning kante anytime Jorghino argument is being made please

You say what? If you don't know the genesis of the argument, why just jump in?
I never mentioned Kante until lordfalcao brought it up, ask him.

lordfalcao:
check the pics I sent you from premier League

Which one? What does that change?

Ibime:


The pressing function of an AM is to press the DM area and Jogginghoe has never been able to live with that.

2 points dropped today from your paperweight and we are only two games in. At least 5 clear such incidents last season dropping points for Chelsea not to mention numerous escorts a faster DM would have stopped.

Keep praising your paperweight while we drop points and disappear from the title race. Jogginghoe didn't do nada today, Spurs couldn't live with, or play out from the Kante, Havertz and Mount press, allowing Jogginghoe all the time to denge pose until a real press was put on him and he gave up the game, leaving many to recount the amount of points he drops Chelsea every season as below. I will personally count 5 of these pressing errors every season. That's 10 points Jogginghoe will put us behind Man City before kicking a ball, guaranteed. Maybe next time you will grow balls and quote me directly.

This. This was what gave us the license to be more expressive against Spurs.
Need I even mention how our goals came about?

Someone will now come here and tell me Jogginghoe is outplaying Kante with some silly stats. For this same EPL or the one played on Cocos Island? Nonsense.

airmark:


We were wasteful and thats my fear with Sterling joining.

I don’t know how an attacker can’t have shot accuracy. Crazy tings are happening

That fireboy album nor enter sha.

That ref + the VAR ref no suppose ref our matches again. Such rubbish.

hensben:
I don’t know how an attacker can’t have shot accuracy. Crazy tings are happening

That fireboy album nor enter sha.

We should have won this game but these things happen. Na so football be. Not that it makes it any better though.

You are not feeling the album, right?

Astrid4:
�� Jorginho against Tottenham:

� 69 Touches
� 53 Passes
� 86% Pass Accuracy
� 2/4 Long Balls
� 2 Chances Created
� 4/5 Ground Duels
� 3 Fouls Suffered
� 6 Ball Recoveries
� 1 Interception
� 1 Tackle

Unlucky. #CHETOT

� @ChelseaFC_CFC

Na this kind stat padding dey make person vex. This is nonsense and doesn't paint the whole picture.

FBS:

This. This was what gave us the license to be more expressive against Spurs.
Need I even mention how our goals came about?

Someone will now come here and tell me Jogginghoe is outplaying Kante with some silly stats. For this same EPL or the one played on Cocos Island? Nonsense.

Kante was immense. The same Kante of our UCL run. Hojberg and Bentacur dare not cross far from their 18 yard box cos he will just break their lines with penetrative runs. Jogginghoe was just chilling behind reaping rewards of being untroubled, forming Okrika Xavi as always when the pressure is off. Another thing that killed Spurs was James attacking any outball to Son immediately, and any ball that drop from that duel will be cleaned up by Silva and Koulibaly or Jogginghoe who formed triangle around Kane.

FBS:

We should have won this game but these things happen. Na so football be. Not that it makes it any better though.

You are not feeling the album, right?

I am not feeling it at all.

hensben:
I am not feeling it at all.

Nna mehn, I thought it was just me. hahahaha
Maybe I had higher expectations dunno...or just need to listen to it several times over and over again.

Main account banned till December cause of that useless vulture griller .

Anyways on a lighter note jack Harlow Bleep with us