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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:49am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: Lets see how e dey go. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:54am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: The restored it this morning before I left home. I don't even know the head or tail of their agitation sef, the whole promotional interview reason just sounds dumb to me. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:05am On Aug 18, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: This is my take. TCN will lose relevance if the power bill goes into effect. So there may be retrenchments etal. If you are laid off, your severance will be your current salary multiplied by several factors. The higher your salary, the higher your severance. They saw it happen to nitel in the 2000s. A behemoth became irrelevant overnight. If you did not grow up in the 80/90s you cannot understand what GSM did to nitel. We had a house in lagos but I had to receive calls in the neighbours house. You make international calls in public in a queue. You toast nitel ogas for years to get a line. That is what I ultimately think this is about, but I may be reading too much into it 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:07am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: Pdp went with the person who had the money to sort them. They should never have let Atiku and Saraki back into the party. People who actively sabotaged them in 2015,and they came.back straight to oga at the top positions. I blame wike for not saying anything in 2019. That gave Atiku legitimacy after his betrayal. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:26am On Aug 18, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: I know a family friend who exited NITEL due to the advent of GSM as u posited, I don't know how much he got paid but I know his severance package was enough for him to build hospital from the one full plot of land left in his compound. His wife was a chief matron in one of the big general hospitals in Lagos and his first son was almost through with his MBBS that time ; they only employed two doctors who were running shifts pending when his son finished his training as a doctor and took control of the place. Today baba is enjoying his retirement. My problem is ; is there no other way any union of government employees can get the government's attention apart from strike? I took a borrowed course in Industrial relations & personnel management in school and u see professors talking about so many ways employees can express their grievances to their employers, why are none of those media yeidling results aside from strike in our own society? What is wrong with us? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:40am On Aug 18, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: Most times strike is used as a blackmailing tool to force the hand of govt to their demand because the unions know that govt will automatically take the blame whatever happens. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:07am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: You may not be far from the truth, but successive governments too have not helped matters. Some reckless and unnecessary government spendings too give these people impetus to make such demands on the government. Someone was saying a senior lecturer earns ₦220k while Someone like Bashir Ahmed the twitter guy gets paid ₦800k plus. Stuff like this make people agitate and make demands on government even when the goverment says it can't afford to pay higher. I think cost of governance is unnecessarily too high in this part of the world. So these people will just blackmail the government into shifting ground or paint the government bad in the eyes of the people 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:12am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Lawless country who made it lawless The people or the government Leemao |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:20am On Aug 18, 2022 |
I just watched a video of Wike saying they run " Jesus economy" in Rivers state. He said people ask where the money they use to execute projects have been coming from but he told them they run " Jesus economy" cos Jesus fed 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes.... The day an entirely different/new party wins the governorship election in Rivers state is the day people of the state will know these guys have stolen billions from that state from Odili to Amaechi to Wike. 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 8:36am On Aug 18, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Can we bet? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 8:44am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Guys, what's anti-spam bot? I gat banned the last time I was discussing with Dayo. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:56am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: From my personal experience government hardly listens to grievances unless workers go on strike. A lot of postponement of meetings and promises to review grievances. Lots of sending third parties to cajole, threaten or bribe union leaders. Incredibly skilled time wasting techniques. And not just a few minutes like in football both a few months to a few years. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:06am On Aug 18, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: I agree that our cost of governance is too high because of the kind of representative government we are running. Salaries and allowance of public servants (elected or appointee) needs to be reduced drastically but if you check our recurrent expenditures, MDA salaries is what make the bulk of those expenditures. Theres no way you are going to reduce cost of governance without merging/dissolving a lot of agencies and we know the cry that will follow from it. The Oronsaye report is there on how we can cut cost of governance but who will retrench workers and the public will go against him/her for being heartless? While we are talking of cost of governance, the National Assembly are in the process of creating new agencies and departments. Also political appointee salaries are always tenured and non pensionable. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:11am On Aug 18, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: When you say government, who do you refer to as government? The politicians or who? People make up government. In fact the bulk of the government is made up of the civil service. Those who will not go to work and make those who need their service to suffer, those that will sabotage procedures put into place for things to run smoothly so they can make quick bucks, those who will wake up one morning and decide who shut down a critical national assets because they dont want to write promotional exams. Yes, the country is lawless because we have lawless people from top to bottom. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:12am On Aug 18, 2022 |
afrodoc2: You are right but then essential workers should not be going on strike or even attempt to tamper with critical national assets. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:35am On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride:APC led government which you are a member made the country lawless Come on, you think some bodies will just wake up and decide to shut down electricity without a pending issue, was that how ASUU started or labour etc If the soldiers decide to stop fighting now you will criticize them but we have been seeing videos of complaints about unpaid salaries and outdated weapons But the people are to be blamed 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:59am On Aug 18, 2022 |
People like that Dude wey no dey pay tax.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 10:10am On Aug 18, 2022 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:40am On Aug 18, 2022 |
PDP has had southerners as their candidates for 13 of the 16 years they held power, zoning to the south again would make the party start looking like a southern party. OkpaNsukkaisBae: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 10:43am On Aug 18, 2022 |
So oasis007, you no dey see this trend that's ongoing in the North |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:48am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Theflint1: Not about party zoning formular but the north/south rotational presidency. Even d PDP as a party ignored her constutitional provision. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:48am On Aug 18, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: It is only on Nairaland that Shettima would wrestle votes from Atiku in the NE. I have said it before. The flogging Atiku would give Shettima in NE would be resounding 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:51am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Which political parties came to this agreement? OkpaNsukkaisBae: I get your point though, but the PDP was between a rock and a hard place and they chose the candidate that had the best chance of returning them to power, can't fault them on that. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:51am On Aug 18, 2022 |
Oasis007:So politicians signing bills and deciding how to spend our money by increasing their own salaries, buying latest jeep shouldn't stop too Ain't they employees too |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:54am On Aug 18, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: pending issue a lot of reforms lead to 'pending issues' i am surprised there were no issues in jamb when oloyede blocked all the leakages and turned jamb into a parastatal returning surplus. because all that surplus is money that was eaten by snakes for years ASUU has been shouting about IPPIS telling different stories about it - but meanwhile every other FG employee is on IPPIS no story. you know what ASUU are proposing - their own 'inhouse software 'UTAS' to manage thier salaries. effectively ASUU want to administer their own payroll using software they probably got off the internet . even worse, is that they did not even think it through at all. so called demos of ythe software. a package managing the payroll info of all of nigerias lecturers. oya where are the servers? where are they located? where is the backup power? where is the disaster recovery site? and these are supposed to be lecturers, who do not even know the basics a lot of the time, there may be genuine grievances - but none of these unions are able to communicate them. all we get is emotional takes not grounded in reality. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:58am On Aug 18, 2022 |
GloriousGbola:Including the soldiers and police that risk their lives to protect us, do they need to communicate before the government know everything is wrong |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:10pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: the soldiers and police have a CHAIN OF COMMAND the police have a ministry for police affairs. i am sure you have read different stories in the news about military big wigs who diverted money. so is it the government, or the ogas in the police and military where I fault the government [GMB and GEJ admins] is in the very poor and slipshod prosecution of ogas at the top caught when tafa baloguns story broke - obj immediately had him sacked and investigated and jailed that sends a message to everyone. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 12:13pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Omo real estate na real ponzi oo https://twitter.com/GrahamStephan/status/1559878464114724865?t=zeAl_llOSpOShSD99DGumA&s=19 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:15pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: Yes. APC made the country lawless. Have a nice day. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 12:35pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
GloriousGbola:Now you are talking, but can a thief prosecute a thief |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:40pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: thieves prosecute thieves all the time Obj was not squeaky clean either it is the actions of the oga at the top that send out the message to everyone else. it is the absence of consequences that lead to blatant, in your face stealing this is one of the many places buhari failed us totally |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:58pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
larride: It depends on the reason for the strike. You can’t make a blanket statement that essential workers should never go on strike when government treats them like trash sometimes. You can’t deny them that right that other workers have to go on strike and then still maltreat them just because they are essential workers. If they are so essential then treat accordingly. Being an essential worker should not be a punishment. |
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