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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Then he is picked up. There are three defenders ahead of him, that is a screen/wall. It will prove easier to intercept it. Meanwhile, at the side of those three defenders, it is easier to pick a pass to Osimhen.

Mobility is key for modern day defending. Waiting, means it is easier to pick you up and requiring extra brilliance from the midfielders.

Osimhen might have been playing 3D chess. He might have known Anguissa is less likely to play a splitting through ball through the middle than a Kvara or a Zielinski, so he moved to the right to make it easier. Maybe if it was Zielinski on the ball he would have stayed central because he knows Zielinski can thread the needle.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2022
Subzero047:


It is common movement, even the football genius is dribbling himself

Did that pass come to Osimhen immediately? If that was De Bruyne and Osimhen was in that position, he would have received it earlier. However, Osimhen improvised and made himself visible for the pass. Attacked the space and the pass came instinctively.

That is what he should always do.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BannedLarge: 7:42pm On Aug 21, 2022
Osimehn pressing is something that makes him very valuable to the likes of Liverpool coach. He just needs to polish his finishing and positioning and the big teams will come

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:43pm On Aug 21, 2022
drDoom3:


Osimhen might have been playing 3D chess. He might have known Anguissa is less likely to play a splitting through ball through the middle than a Kvara or a Zielinski, so he moved to the right to make it easier. Maybe if it was Zielinski on the ball he would have stayed central because he knows Zielinski can thread the needle.

It is so clear. Move and make it easy. Move - pass - move - pass. The pass did not come immediately. Wait and get trapped in a sandwich.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:45pm On Aug 21, 2022
hatakekakashi:

Same thing Man U fans where saying during Greenwood and Ronaldo time but others were egging Greenwood on. Football fans and hypocrisy cheesy

Greenwood selfish sha make I no lie

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:46pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y6tLzeTHE?t=106


TheGoodJoe, fabyom.

Judge for yourselves. From 1:48.

Can you explain what I should judge?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:46pm On Aug 21, 2022
Kog45:
Yes he played 45 mins a friendly match with CHAN team against Abuja based team.I just confirmed it from a friend.

Wow that's news to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 7:48pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


It is so clear. Move and make it easy. Move - pass - move - pass. The pass did not come immediately. Wait and get trapped in a sandwich.

Haaland took the sandwich option because he was confident in his physique to bulldoze through two defenders. Osimhen might not have been able to do the same (physically)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:49pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y6tLzeTHE?t=106


TheGoodJoe, fabyom.

Judge for yourselves. From 1:48.

Totally two different scenarios. Haaland is breaking the line with pace and stregth. He knows De Bruyne has the ability to thread that pass. In this case, Haaland does not have room on the side, and that side is also occupied by another City player. No space wide for Haaland.

In this case, there was space wide for Osimhen. He attacked it and made it easy to receive the pass.

Good movement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 7:50pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Can you explain what I should judge?

Which was the better option for Haaland?

Between two defenders or outside?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:51pm On Aug 21, 2022
drDoom3:


Haaland took the sandwich option because he was confident in his physique to bulldoze through two defenders. Osimhen might not have been able to do the same (physically)

Exactly. Also there is no room wide. Haaland going wide is not attacking a space. In Osimhen's case, He is attacking a space and making the pass easier.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:52pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


Which was the better option for Haaland?

Between two defenders or outside?


There is no space out wide. So why would Haaland go there? There is also a Mancity player wide. So why go there?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 7:52pm On Aug 21, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Greenwood selfish sha make I no lie
Teens will be teens no matter how talented, even Ronaldo was once like that, his teammates then complained. Trust pep to coach it out of Foden.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 7:54pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Totally two different scenarios. Haaland is breaking the line with pace and stregth. He knows De Bruyne has the ability to thread that pass. In this case, Haaland does not have room on the side, and that side is also occupied by another City player. No space wide for Haaland.

In this case, there was space wide for Osimhen. He attacked it and made it easy to receive the pass.

Good movement.
TheGoodJoe:


There is no space out wide. So why would Haaland go there? There is also a Mancity player wide. So why go there?

How can you say no space, when Haaland could have started a farm in that space outside the defender?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:58pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:



How can you say no space, when Haaland could have started a farm in that space outside the defender?

Are you sure you understand what a wide space is? That is like a winger's position.

The four defenders of Newcastle are in position. Four. There are two Manchester City players in the wingers' positions.

So please, which other space are you talking about? Unless you are talking of taking the channel between the defending spaces. That is a different topic.

I would have said that but De Bruyne was tightly marked in the midfield. Trying to attack the channel will mean losing TIME and De Bruyne getting closed out.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:01pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Exactly. Also there is no room wide. Haaland going wide is not attacking a space. In Osimhen's case, He is attacking a space and making the pass easier.

The difference between moving outside and between two defenders is simple.

If Haaland moves diagonally, he will have to face Schar and Boatman 1on1.

But if he goes vertical, the defender will have to tackle him from the side. All he needs to do is just step across the defender.

Because Haaland chose the second option he was 1on1 with Pope.

Because Osimhen chose the first option he scored from a difficult angle due to calamitous goalkeeping.

One is smart work, the other is hard work. Kudos to the Golden boy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:06pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:



How can you say no space, when Haaland could have started a farm in that space outside the defender?

If the defender I marked out was not in that position, Haaland should be attacking that space (if his teammate is not there in space.

In this place, his teammate was there and the opposition defender was there.

Now to attack that channel there, he needs room behind the defensive line to run through the channel. In this case, De Bruyne did not have time for the ball and this was an offensive routine to exploit Haaland's pace and power. which is something the City players are still getting use to.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


The difference between moving outside and between two defenders is simple.

If Haaland moves diagonally, he will have to face Schar and Boatman 1on1.

But if he goes vertical, the defender will have to tackle him from the side. All he needs to do is just step across the defender.

Because Haaland chose the second option he was 1on1 with Pope.

Because Osimhen chose the first option he scored from a difficult angle due to calamitous goalkeeping.

One is smart work, the other is hard work. Kudos to the Golden boy.

Haaland is actually the hard work. That is because he is totally relying on his pace and power. Note that he used his power to stop the last attempt of the last man.

In Osimhen's case, he nullified their defensive attempts by taking on the available space.

I repeat, good movement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:09pm On Aug 21, 2022
hatakekakashi:

Teens will be teens no matter how talented, even Ronaldo was once like that, his teammates then complained. Trust pep to coach it out of Foden.

Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:12pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Haaland is actually the hard work. That is because he is totally relying on his pace and power. Note that he used his power to stop the last attempt of the last man.

In Osimhen's case, he nullified their defensive attempts by taking on the available space.

I repeat, good movement.

Brother, be honest.

Between these two highlighted ignored spaces, which was the wrong decision.

Forget the goal.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:20pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


Brother, be honest.

Between these two highlighted ignored spaces, which was the wrong decision.

Forget the goal.


I think I have explained enough. The defenders are not sticks or cones. If Haaland moves to the channel, the wide defender closes him. If Osimhen stays in the deep space, the defending sandwich closes in.

In Haaland's case, he used his pace, knowing De Bruyne will thread that pass.

In Osimhen's case, he attacked the free space wide, escaping a sandwich and made the passing easier.

Two different scenarios.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:22pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


Brother, be honest.

Between these two highlighted ignored spaces, which was the wrong decision.

Forget the goal.

The screenshot of Haaland, De Bruyne released the pass immediately.

Osimhen's case, Anguissa did not release the pass immediately.

So how can you expect similar reactions?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:27pm On Aug 21, 2022
When is the next AFCON? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:30pm On Aug 21, 2022
NFF presidency. Who are the contenders? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:40pm On Aug 21, 2022
Awaziem. What a goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:41pm On Aug 21, 2022
Joebie:
NFF presidency. Who are the contenders? grin

Only one name I've seen so far though not confirmed...David Doherty of team Nigeria UK

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:42pm On Aug 21, 2022
Moses usor with a brace for slavia Prague

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:43pm On Aug 21, 2022
Joebie:
When is the next AFCON? grin
2024
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 8:55pm On Aug 21, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
How can you say movement is not his greatest strength when Osimhen showed split-second decision-making, noticed that there was room at the side of the three defenders? Broke away from their sandwich, and gave a passing line for the midfielder.

What Subzero047 is proposing is that Osimhen should not have MOVED, but maintained his position. However, Osimhen showed movement and mobility.

That was brilliant movement, and this is coming from one of Osimhen's most vocal critics.

If Osimhen had continue running straight down, he'd have been flagged offside.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by theophilusj31(m): 8:55pm On Aug 21, 2022
Guys I am confused here, According to statitics this arsenal guy martin odegaard created the second most chances in EPL last season after Trent Alexander Arnold,but martin odegaard is not considered among the top 10 best midfielders in EPL...why

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:57pm On Aug 21, 2022
theophilusj31:
Guys I am confused here, According to statitics this arsenal guy martin odegaard created the second most chances in EPL last season after Trent Alexander Arnold,but martin odegaard is not considered among the top 10 best midfielders in EPL...why

Creating chances isn't the only criteria for rating a midfielder, is it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08pm On Aug 21, 2022
elunico:


If Osimhen had continue running straight down, he'd have been flagged offside.

Yes. But, some are suggesting he should have held his position, expecting a pass, or made a slight diagonal run to stay onside, and expect the pass.

This I disagree with because the longer he stayed in that position will mean he gets trapped by the defenders.

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