jaephoenix:
So if he desire your obedience, what do you get in return?

Heaven after this life is over? Or what did you expect for an answer?

Kobojunkie:
If I asked you to list some of the almost 100 commandments given by Jesus Christ to His followers, I bet you would have difficulty coming up with just 10 of them. Obedience is not to be taken lightly and even more importantly obedience to the commandments and teachings of Jesus Christ, not the doctrines and teachings of what are your pastors and mogs, the very false teachers and false prophets God warned His own to steer clear of.

You mention the grace of God, but do you know that all of mankind, even unbelievers, have the grace of God upon their lives? Did you know that the grace which you enjoy in Jesus Christ, belongs to even those who will end up in eternal damnation at the end of it all since it refers to the eternal life we all receive from Jesus Christ?

Did you also know that the one you call the Holy Spirit, the one who is the Spirit of Truth, is in fact the very Spirit of Jesus Christ Himself? And if the life you are living even now does not conform to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - John 14 vs 6 - His teachings and commandments as written of in the Gospels all compiled together - the Spirit inside of you cannot be the Holy Spirit promised by Him?

Obedience happens to be the only mandate, and it isn't simply obedience to any rules but obedience to the teachings and commandments as given by Jesus Christ Himself. Obedience requires one to abandon jobs, careers, reputation, family, friends, earthly desires etc., in order to find the Narrow Gate(True life aka the path to Heaven) as is written even in Matthew 10 vs 34 - 38, and according to Jesus Christ those who are His followers no longer work for food that perishes but instead work for eternal food which only He can give, a complete departure from everything the world has ever offered. It should not be taken lightly.

Legit bullshit
So if unbelievers enjoy the same 'grace' as Christians, what is the use of prayers by christians?

Kobojunkie:
Heaven after this life is over? Or what did you expect for an answer?

Exactly the bullshit I get from theists. When they realized their lies about goodness being stacked up in Christianity is exposed, they now resort to 'dont worry, your reward is in heaven', which cannot be verified

jaephoenix:

Legit bullshit
So if unbelievers enjoy the same 'grace' as Christians, what is the use of prayers by christians?

Where exactly did you read that unbelievers enjoy the same grace that Christians do? Do unbelievers have eternal life?,

Go back through the post and read through this time with eyes open.

jaephoenix:

Exactly the bullshit I get from theists. When they realized their lies about goodness being stacked up in Christianity is exposed, they now resort to 'dont worry, your reward is in heaven', which cannot be verified

I don't follow at all.

masmnd8:
No one needs to tell you that you will not go through life without difficulty. But with God, you have encouragement and assurance. Life no balance at all, things are very unfair, the wicked prosper very well and you wonder why things are the way things are. Sometimes you pray something and the opposite happens. So you want to cry or drink to forget your worry. People no send you at all if you die tomorrow, na God dey encourage. Without God, you are on own . No help , just you against the world. After sometimes, depression will start setting in because you cannot help yourself. Your friends will ignore you, your family cannot help, even your parents cannot help. Take God seriously , listen to God, dey pray all the time and focus on Him. This thread is for anyone who believe in God.

You just said "the wicked" prosper very well, and I'm sure that the unbelievers fall under this category of "the wicked" because your Bible already called them evil for saying there's no god. So what's your point and why are you contradicting yourself?

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly did you read that unbelievers enjoy the same grace that Christians do? Do unbelievers have eternal life?,

Go back through the post and read through this time with eyes open.

I was quoting your fellow Christian. Read through his posts
By the way, this eternal life y'all touting about, do u have any evidenced of its existence? Yes or no answer needed

jaephoenix:

I was quoting your fellow Christian. Read through his posts
By the way, this eternal life y'all touting about, do u have any evidenced of its existence? Yes or no answer needed

Quoting my fellow Christian? What I posted was according to scripture not that claimed by men.

What evidence do I need of it's existence? Those who are born-again have that evidence installed on the inside of them though.

Kobojunkie:
I don't follow at all.

Remember y'all used to tell us the life of a Christian is rosy and yall would be rewarded with the fruits of the earth here on earth, in fact y'all still saying the same bullshit (example Dtruthspeaker). When we point out that in fact, many Christians are very miserable, you now turn around and tell us, 'actually the reward is in heaven'
The point is, no one has died and reported of any heaven. So ur claim can't be verified

Kobojunkie:
Quoting my fellow Christian? What I posted was according to scripture not that claimed by men.

What evidence do I need of it's existence? Those who are born-again have that evidence installed on the inside of them though.

Lol. Here we go again.
I knew you'll end with some legit bullshit about christians
Why are you guys this slippery when you're caught in a trap. Damn

jaephoenix:
1. Remember y'all used to tell us the life of a Christian is rosy and yall would be rewarded with the fruits of the earth here on earth, in fact y'all still saying the same bullshit (example ). When we point out that in fact, many Christians are very miserable, you now turn around and tell us, 'actually the reward is in heaven'

2. The point is, no one has died and reported of any heaven. So ur claim can't be verified

1. Jesus Christ, the one who is the Christ in Christianity never fed anyone such tales, nor have I done any such.

2. Well, given that Jesus Christ made it known that Heaven(and Hell) would not be open for admission until after He returns, I don't understand why you expect someone to come back from the dead to tell you of it.

Why again does my claim require some sort of verification? Is any of this not written in scripture for all to read?

jaephoenix:

Lol. Here we go again.
I knew you'll end with some legit bullshit about christians
Why are you guys this slippery when you're caught in a trap. Damn

You are still not making any sense!

kingxsamz:


You just said "the wicked" prosper very well, and I'm sure that the unbelievers fall under this category of "the wicked" because your Bible already called them evil for saying there's no god. So what's your point and why are you contradicting yourself?

Is it a lie that the wicked do not prosper?

jaephoenix:

Remember y'all used to tell us the life of a Christian is rosy and yall would be rewarded with the fruits of the earth here on earth, in fact y'all still saying the same bullshit (example Dtruthspeaker). When we point out that in fact, many Christians are very miserable, you now turn around and tell us, 'actually the reward is in heaven'
The point is, no one has died and reported of any heaven. So ur claim can't be verified

I have always said that the miserable people who you see and call Christians are not Christians. They are just people who go to church.

And infact I just learnt that they actually don't believe in God at all and that they just go to church so that people would not know that they are devils.

So, you see, those miserable church going people are not Christians.

And God does almost never hears the prayers of sinners and is very very far from them.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have always said that the miserable people who you see and cal Christians are not Christians. They are just people who go to church.

And infancy I just learnt that they actually don't believe in God at all and that they just go to church so that people would not know that they are devils.

So, you see, those miserable church going people are not Christians.

Are Those killed inside church in owo also not Christians? bwahahahah.

masmnd8:


Is it a lie that the wicked do not prosper?

Maybe you should put on your reading glasses and stop replying without doing much thinking on what you write.
Wasn't this what you said below?

masmnd8:
Life no balance at all, things are very unfair, the wicked prosper very well and you wonder why things are the way things are.

So what are you doing contradiction yourself all over the place?

Maynman:


Are Those killed inside church in owo also not Christians? bwahahahah.

According to him, they're not real Christians, they're church goers, If not they wouldn't have died. Even the children.

Wilgrea7:


Life is hard, regardless of whether or not a person believes in a God/Gods. ...

But it is every bit as hard, regardless of what you believe.

You ain't seen me and in I am in this same shitty kwantree and life's LG (Life's Good and Sweet and I am living my dreams) because I found The Lord!.

And funny how you people do not see that you are all struggling under God's Curse.

hopefulLandlord:


That's not exclusive to you though. Muslims, traditional god's worshippers, atheists etc have had unexpected and borderline unexplainable fortunate happenings occur at some points in their lives.

The unexplained good fortune is God not allowing people to be completely be void of good things as they would surely die faster!

jaephoenix:

Legit bullshit
So if unbelievers enjoy the same 'grace' as Christians, what is the use of prayers by christians?

One bottle of origin for you....god extends his grace and blesses people how he wants to irrespective of your prayers

Rayban25:
One bottle of origin for you....god extends his grace and blesses people how he wants to irrespective of your prayers

Here's a clue for you.... grace refers to life you have. You don't need to pray or ask God for life and God doesn't simply give life to just those who believe in Him. He gives live to all regardless of that. Christians have the eternal kind of life however for believing in God.

Kobojunkie:
You are still not making any sense!

Dtruthspeaker had been inundating us about how blissful the Christian faith is. Maybe you need to ask him. Or maybe you are not a Christian

masmnd8:


Is it a lie that the wicked do not prosper?

Your leaders that have been robbing you blind in this country, are they not prospering? Christians are disconnected from reality

Dtruthspeaker:


I have always said that the miserable people who you see and call Christians are not Christians. They are just people who go to church.

And infanct I just learnt that they actually don't believe in God at all and that they just go to church so that people would not know that they are devils.

So, you see, those miserable church going people are not Christians.

And God does almost never hears the prayers of sinners and is very very far from them.

There are obviously more sinners and heathens in countries like UK, UAE etc but they have better healthcare, life expectancy, prosperity than the Christians here in Nigeria. So which God has been answering their prayers?

Dtruthspeaker:


You ain't seen me and in I am in this same shitty kwantree and life's LG (Life's Good and Sweet and I am living my dreams) because I found The Lord!.

And funny how you people do not see that you are all struggling under God's Curse.

I have a prospering medical practice and a good business. I'm way better than a good percentage of Christians. I'm struggling to see the curse you meant

Kobojunkie:
Here's a clue for you.... grace refers to life you have. You don't need to pray or ask God for life and God doesn't simply give life to just those who believe in Him. He gives live to all regardless of that. Christians have the eternal kind of life however for believing in God.

So r up saying Dtruthspeaker Dliespeaker is lying about living it up as a Christian?

jaephoenix:

So r up saying Dtruthspeaker Dliespeaker is lying about living it up as a Christian?

Jesus Christ is the standard as far as the Christian life is concerned and if you read on Him, you can easily realize the Truth of what Christianity is and what it isn't.

jaephoenix:

Your leaders that have been robbing you blind in this country, are they not prospering? Christians are disconnected from reality

Sorry i meant the wicked do prosper

jaephoenix:

Your leaders that have been robbing you blind in this country, are they not prospering? Christians are disconnected from reality

Guy, are you offended by Christianity? It appear you got a beef with Christianity. Why and What happened?

jaephoenix:

I have a prospering medical practice and a good business. I'm way better than a good percentage of Christians. I'm struggling to see the curse you meant

Same as Tuface, Tonto and a million other people who earn good income, from their engagements but having a good life is not the same as good earnings.

And for you doctors, your curse is not in eating and paying bills but in other areas of living. And lie all you want, we all have doctors in our families and neighbourhoods and we all see how miserable and unhappy you fare.

So, you still don't have what we got!

And as I said earlier, people who go to church are not necessarily Christians.

jaephoenix:

There are obviously more sinners and heathens in countries like UK, UAE etc but they have better healthcare, life expectancy, prosperity than the Christians here in Nigeria. So which God has been answering their prayers?

And yet we see that they are even more miserable than even the regular Nigerian church goers who do not even believe in God either!

So you see, you have NO THING!

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the standard as far as the Christian life is concerned and if you read on Him, you can easily realize the Truth of what Christianity is and what it isn't.

And you haven't read anywhere in the Bible where it was saying that the Lord would bless christians? Something that is everywhere in the bible. Abi ur own bible na scam?