ubunja:
I actually know one or two guys with multiple babymamas and I don't see them self-destructing... Even the bums with multiple babymamas are not exactly self-destructing, they're what they've always been: bums. Don't mistake Africa for America.

The few guys I know with babymamas are not even suffering,, on the contrary they're the guys who always have someone to call when they need the most and have women who'll drop anything to come to their aid in their hour of need. But let me tell you I know good upstanding gentlemen living their life by the book who don't even have anyone who'll sacrifice for them when they need it the most.
And there's only so much even a true friend can do for you before he cut you off as a liability and face his own problems. How many friends will consistently visit you by your hospital bed till you recover? How many friends will consistently visit you in jail till you get out? Not very many.
You can talk about your own family,, but truth is a lot of guys are not maintaining good family relations and there's plenty of grudges and sibling rivalry between them and their brothers and sisters, and few can count on their own blood in their hour of need. I've seen that shít play out and seen the babymama come through harder for a man than his own family and friends.
If you think I'm talking trash, Here's a sobering fact that a lot of guys will not want to admit: Your own sister, your own blood sister, will be more loyal and do more for her baby's father (married or not) than she'll ever be or do for you. Am I lying?

Now am I promoting immorality and irresponsible behaviour? Maybe. But I'm thinking in terms of self-preservation. I wouldn't want to be a 90 year old man who has no one checking upon him just cause I never had any kids cause I didn't want to overpopulate the world or I didn't want to have kids out of wedlock. Let me tell you, At a certain age it won't matter how you got your children, what will matter will be DO YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN AT ALL?
A lot of us have uncles etc who have good relationships with their children who they got under suspect circumstances, and at that stage no one is talking about where that kid came from but that the kid is here and they're a blessing.

We can talk about getting married but we know the divorce rate. And honestly speaking if we as the red pill discourage marriage then the more a man needs to have children with different women cause tomorrow is not promised and all the money in the world won't matter in your old age as much as having your own kids (regardless how you got them) be around you.
It may seem like I'm talking a lot of bullshit,,, but men don't have a lot of people to count on. And it will actually be irresponsible of us to let men go into the future without Plan B , especially since we're talking down on marriage.

I don't know man,, but that's the way I see it. It would be nice to hear what other guys think though.

heartofcity12:


Oh well bro, we can’t say because no man is immune to getting cheated on or AWALT and start playing the game without caution. It’s like going for a wayward woman instead of a decent one because any woman can cheat anyway, it’s like becoming a simp because women cheat on Alphas too anyway. Then what’s the purpose of being here?

One thing I’m certain of is that most women cheat for different reasons, either for sex or for financial reason or other reasons known to them. The best you can do as a man in a relationship or marriage is to be with a woman who genuinely desires you and you always try to level up financially, work out and lastly always have an abundance mindset should in case she wants to screw up. It’s all about choosing the lesser evil than settling for the cold plain evil.

Androgens:


Personally I prefer Ubunja should take a break on this thread. Perhaps A Sequel of this thread should be opened with the heading, "U.bunja Redpill About The Female Gender" so his fans can divert there. This thread Is solely created to gain knowledge and wisdom In navigating through the hurdles of life and off course to shield ourselves from the manipulations and deceptions of Lilith's offsprings. Not coming here to create conflicts on babymama and daddymama Issues lol. His expertise Is solely based and centered on "Female Psychology" most especially the reproduction organ Smhh..

CaveAdullam:


1. It is never a crime to have a harem of women and a battalion of children. At least from a primal basal animalistic instinct, all that matters to species are survival and reproduction.

2. What I'm interested in you have all it takes to maintain that family. Because if you don't, they will turn out to become a problem on your jugulars and those of society.

Genes don't only care about survival and reproduction, their environment must be safe too, else, reproduction and survival will not happen.

3. Redpillers say "make yourself your mental point of origin...put yourself first". Of course, this is right. But life is not black and white, it is full of compromises. It is too complex that you can play by just one rule.

" I don't give an fvck about what society says..."
"I will do as I like..."
"Everything can burn down, I don't care..."

The above statements are words of an ignorant dumb juvenile. Because he or she thinks he alone is free and has the monopoly to act recklessly without concern for society.

Will you feel sad when others hurt you? Will you feel sad when sociopaths and psychopaths decide to take a turn on your flesh? These are where things need to be analyzed when dealing with ourselves and society.

4. And this doesn't mean you must abandon yourself. Putting yourself first means you are aware of the game and how things go and fortify yourself against the negative side of it. Not acting like an unbridled infantile.

5. Whatever your position in life, it has a ripple effect, either good or bad. And you dare not complain when you have never brought anything good to society, or when you have only contributed to its decay.

6. One woman and maybe 3 or 4 kids is already a problem and I wonder why you want many. This of course is not wrong in any way, provided you can cater, control and call the shots and make sure they become reasonable adults. Because if they don't turn out well, they will never even be on your 90th birthday.

7. We are humans. We have higher intelligence than other lower animals, hence, we don't act as brutish as them. Our civilization and theirs differ which is a major common difference that we can't act like them except we want to become like them.

8. The earth and universe are big enough for any man to pursue and achieve his mating rights. I for once have never believed in overpopulation bullish!t. By the way, the billions of humans that are existing today, are like a speck of dust when compared to those that have died. There is overcrowding which is true.
But there are other empty spaces life can start from. However, from an evolutionary point of view, species always gravitate toward the resources center rather than stay in a scarce environment. Except when things become worse, they adapt.

9. Sex seems cheap today because we are living in a sexual world. Hook-up culture has blown away the roof. But is sex cheap? The price of reproduction has never been cheap if we are to look at the essence of sex which is reproduction.

Let's go down the hole a little:

A. In the global north, the government makes sure that its citizens' basic needs are met. But from the latest statistics, sex and fertility are declining. Why?

I. Sexual market deregulation.

II. The claws of feminism in the family law.

III. Woke culture that has emasculated men. And most women are only interested in fvcking masculine men. Promiscuity amongst women is towards 20% of men.

IV. Woke culture which makes women act masculine.

V. Masculinity goes unrewarded.

VI. Sexual relations can now be termed rape, sexual assault, or harassment.

B. In the global South where the economic and political situation is worst, many women will have sex but with fewer men.

So, is sex cheap in Africa, and Nigeria? No. Why?

I. Because the employment rate among men is low. You think of eating before fvcking.

II. They are in an atmosphere where the average citizen lives below $3 daily.

III. Poor nation. They can't pay prostitutes because they have not provided for their basic needs.

IV. Black tax: young men are always taxed by their families to help them in one way or the other.

V. Majority of women are after employed men or men with a good amount of cash.

10. Sex is a basic instinct and the ultimate aim is to reproduce. But an organism will first pursue survival before reproduction.

So, the question is how many men who can't afford their basic needs can afford prostitutes?

I'm using prostitutes because they are the easiest way to have sex than maintaining a short or long-term relationship.

You can now see that the statistics that sex is declining among men in the global North are also true in the global South as a result of different peculiar factors.

11. Until there is a rise of great men and women who will challenge the status quo to ensure that the family law becomes convenient for men to marry, raise a family and have authority; and also to ensure economic prosperity among every citizen, the mess will linger as every one of us takes a bow to our respective graves.

12. And for those who think family doesn't matter or they have traded quality friendship for cheap gains...you are foolish. Family is key, no matter how things turn worst in life, they are the only ones that can still stretch out their hands for help. Try building a good relationship with them. Settle all scores.

Thanks.

DAY 234, REDPILL 2022

Authority: Be brave. Be strong.

heartofcity12:
If I'd go down the baby mama route, I’d rather do it with a rich girl or a rich man’s child, that way she saves me from most of the financial pressures and responsibilities associated with child support, that gives me more freedom to enjoy my singlehood, knowing my seed is in good hands and getting well taken care of, otherwise it’s not really worth it to me. You can’t be my baby mama and still be broke and expecting me to pay your bills in the guise of child support, hell no.

heartofcity12:
If I’d go down the baby mama route, I’d rather do it with a rich girl or a rich man’s child, that way she saves me from most of the financial pressures and responsibilities associated with child support, that gives me more freedom to enjoy my singlehood, knowing my seed is in good hands and getting well taken care of, otherwise it’s not really worth it to me. You can’t be my baby mama and still be broke and expecting me to pay your bills in the guise of child support, hell no.

Androgens:


Babymama and Babydaddy In Trenches Is a suicide mission. I will never near such with a thousand feet pole..

DonEvarest:
Why are they always interested in the man's asset. They claim to love the man from the onset but stylishly bid for an auspicious time to wreck him financially, emotionally and even socially whilst running into the arms of another richer man (who'd still suffer similar fate as the previous man) Stay woke guyz. If you're in the west, marriage is a huge risk.

DonEvarest:
Why are they always interested in the man's asset. They claim to love the man from the onset but stylishly bid for an auspicious time to wreck him financially, emotionally and even socially whilst running into the arms of another richer man (who'd still suffer similar fate as the previous man) Stay woke guyz. If you're in the west, marriage is a huge risk.

emmaodet:

Should we even really care about genuine desire nowadays? Does it really matter?
Because the person that genuinely loves you today may lose interest tomorrow for any reason.

Androgens:


Is the bolded for me, Being preaching this since day one. MrColdSweat also emphasized on It. Glad you are amongst the few who understand..

Lagosanambra:
Growing up, I tried to concentrate in school even while at the university, to avoid distractions.

I had just few girls around.

I have since the past 3 years--- after relative success in my field--- had few flings, wooed and slept with a few girls too from all tribes; had like 3 living with me for weeks at some point.

Now in early 30s I feel like I should seek something serious.
I find myself picking phone numbers from girls but then I come home, initiate a chat introducing myself but I have no zeal to take it further than that.

I just get tired of the whole thing.

Again, some of them seem uninterested.

You notice this lack of interest from the way they respond with monosyllables, respond after several hours or days or even abandoning the chats outright.


This is more pronounced if you come off too as gentle, without bragging, showing off etc.

I have no difficulty giving girls things occasionally but I hate to feel used or feel a woman is interested in only what she can gain in the short term- immediate gratification.


Going on dates would have been a good option as many girls would hardly reject free food, drinks etc but I don't have the time or energy hence deem it otiose, that's beyond the financial implications as many of the girls are coming to the dates to access you, not necessarily to know you.

And I hate showing off.


How do you guys navigate around this conundrum please especially if you are looking for something serious and not just sex?

Nasri100:

That’s the freedom. A baby mama from a good family background. Rich preferably.
You are also rich and enjoying life. That mental freedom that your child is in good hands is one of the sweetest thing ever.
Not these poverty & trenches madness being touted especially in Nigeria.

Babangidayaro:


How do you look a young man with a promising future ahead of him in the eyes and advise him to impregnate a woman to keep her? This is very disappointing.

My only hope is that we still have young men reading these exchanges that can still reason logically and can learn to detect and discard posts that only seek to brainwash them.

As a young man, planting your seed in random women is not just irresponsible. It leads to financial ruin and kills dreams. I am not telling you what I think. I am saying what I know.

Most young men with baby mamas do not end up doing well in life with all the distractions. In life there are always exceptions. Please stop using exceptional cases to prove your point.

Any young man that realizes that there is more to life than sex sex and more sex has won 90 per cent of life’s battles. You don’t need random sex to live a fulfilled life. You can be getting all the sex in the world and still be very lonely. Sex can be bought. Fulfilling relationships cannot be bought. And having strong bonds and fulfilling relationships (with family, friends and partners) is what keeps men going during rough times in old age.

You don’t need to be married to have fulfilling relationships. You certainly do not need to plant seeds in women to have fulfilling relationships.

Lagosanambra:

especially if you are looking for something serious and not just sex?

Zabiboy:

You know whats funny..
Every single guy online is avoiding "Broke" ladies. So who is bankrolling the broke ladies offline? Why do men say they have nothing to offer yet their "Clitocurrency" keeps giving them 10x 100x 1000x even when everywhere red?
I'll tell you why...
Men's abi Man's continue desire for ego boost and constant quest for slavery ( submission) would have him dating down continuously and so while it's logical to avoid broke ladies online, when these same men need people to boost their ego offline, they go back to the broke ones because ofc rich ladies wont be moved by the money.

According to Esther Vilar, there are lot of questions men need to sit down and ask themselves But they are not ready yet..

CaveAdullam:
DAY 213, REDPILL 2022

How To Gain Respect.

1. Know that humans are guilty of the halo effect: the tendency to judge people by their looks or physical appearance. That humans judge books by their covers.

2. Appeal to the halo effect. How?

3. People respect other people that have higher status than them. Boost your status.

But I don't have designers and luxuries.

Fine. The locals you have, neatly prepare and use them. You will regularly come across those at the middle or bottom of the hierarchy daily. Once you heighten your status you become equal to or higher than them.

What if I don't have any?

Madmen have recognition. Build recognition with what you have.

4. By all means reciprocate values even though it is small from your end. Givers will see you as a partner rather than as a beggar. By all means, don't beg. Rather, offer value regardless of the little size.

Endeavor to eat bread you work for with your hands.

5. Appreciate people for the help they render. Even though it is removing a speck of dust from your collar, thank them "loudly". It shows that you value them. In return, they will value and respect you and will help you in difficult moments.

To be continued.

Authority: Become a man of respect.

DonEvarest:
Why are they always interested in the man's asset. They claim to love the man from the onset but stylishly bid for an auspicious time to wreck him financially, emotionally and even socially whilst running into the arms of another richer man (who'd still suffer similar fate as the previous man) Stay woke guyz. If you're in the west, marriage is a huge risk.

Zabiboy:


You wan dey serious with people wey neva wan dey serious ...
Even if you see one to settle down with, dont you think its because of your "resources" and nothing else.. Which leaves the door open to frivolous cheating , divorce, partenity fraud etc etc ..

How someone who went to a nigerian university and did NYSC can be so fired up about marriage is my 8th Wonder of the world

Omor i don type too much this night