back and forth argument, not ending argument

Trevor012:

Go and do you research on P.i.k loans. That was the system glazers used for the leverage buyout.

Lol. I know what PIK loans and LBO mean. I did not say they didn’t use PIK loans. They did, but it does not exist in the books any more. Do you understand my point? I said the acquisition debt is long gone, that’s not what we have in our books. The debt you see today is for operations and transfer activities.

Trevor012:

The amount you see there is the cumulation of the annum interest payment made in servicing the debt that your glazers dropped on the club since 2005.

Okay now.

Searchingvictor:
back and forth argument, not ending argument

I no even know wetin them dey talk thats why the rest of us keep mum

zeusis:

I no even know wetin them dey talk thats why the rest of us keep mum

This argument has been there since 2014

zeusis:

I no even know wetin them dey talk thats why the rest of us keep mum

This is the reason I would urge man utd fans to stick to watching football and complain about players and managers. Leave how the clubs are financed alone. It’s a tough terrain to understand, and the press will feed you stories that would make you stick with them.

People like you plenty, who don’t understand what’s going on (which is quite understandable) but will always join the Glazers out protests organized by some people with agenda against the owners. It’s quite sad.

nitrogen:


Lol. I know what PIK loans and LBO means. I did not say they didn’t use PIK loans. They did, but it does not exist in then books any more. Do you understand my point? I said the acquisition debt is long gone, that’s not what we have in our books. The debt you see today is for operations and transfer activities.

The takeover debt hasn't gone anywhere. What are you saying? COVID only added a little to the acquisition debt which is still over 450m.

zeusis:

I no even know wetin them dey talk thats why the rest of us keep mum

Go to redcafe and you will see detailed explanation on how much glazers have taken from United. A combination of interest payment used in servicing the loan, dividend, share sales and soft loans should take the figure to 1.5 billion. That's a new stadium right there my brother.

Trevor012:

The takeover debt hasn't gone anywhere. What are you saying? COVID only added a little to the acquisition debt which is still over 450m.

Why are you this stubborn? Damn! Have you checked the document I posted?

I posted a report that was submitted to the stock exchange, regulatory bodies and shareholders. Audited fa! You are giving me an analysis from a sports journalist.

Nawa o!

melodyogonna:

How long have we been paying this debt? Even countries don't stretch loans over such a large period. How are we only paying interest, did we miss any repayment?
I think Nitrogen knows more about how these things work than you do, or probably anyone else here. If we never defaulted on any payment there is no way we should only be servicing interest on one loan since 2005. There is usually an agreement over how long it'll take to repay a loan, the interests are factored into the calculation.

No let anyone bobo you for here. It's just like someone trying to argue legal stuffs with me. I can keep the arguments going all day knowing fully well I'm not making any sense. So we've paid all the debt from the takeover ? Guy's almost trolling.

Guy's definitely into finance and is trying to bamboozle y'all into counting everything reported by the media or financial experts as propaganda or news to rile up fans. Same media that's been called out for years for their silence about the whole thing until the super league stuff.

I've even left the argument cuz it's become pointless. Let the Glaziers sympathizers continue. There'll always be people like that.

nitrogen:


This is the reason I would urge man utd fans to stick to watching football and complain about players and managers. Leave how the clubs are financed alone. It’s a tough terrain to understand, and the press will feed you stories that would make you stick with them.

People like you plenty, who don’t understand what’s going on (which is quite understandable) but will always join the Glazers out protests organized by some people with agenda against the owners. It’s quite sad.

forget that thing
glazers out joor

Trevor012:

Go to redcafe and you will see detailed explanation on how much glazers have taken from United. A combination of interest payment used in servicing the loan, dividend, share sales and soft loans should take the figure to 1.5 billion. That's a new stadium right there my brother.

I enjoy redcafe when its time to roast bruno

zeusis:

forget that thing
glazers out joor

. No lele, enjoy the show!

nitrogen:


. No lele, enjoy the show!

ChristoBam:

No let anyone bobo you for here. It's just like someone trying to argue legal stuffs with me. I can keep the arguments going all day knowing fully well I'm not making any sense. So we've paid all the debt from the takeover ? Guy's almost trolling.

Guy's definitely into finance and is trying to bamboozle y'all into counting everything reported by the media or financial experts as propaganda or news to rile up fans. Same media that's been called out for years for their silence about the whole thing until the super league stuff.

I've even left the argument cuz it's become pointless. Let the Glaziers sympathizers continue. There'll always be people like that.

Hmm, I go really look into the stuff sha.

I'm Glazer-out purely on account of that hideous hairline and ponytail

Trevor012:

The takeover debt hasn't gone anywhere. What are you saying? COVID only added a little to the acquisition debt which is still over 450m.

This is actually very ridiculous. This Glazer people omo

DeadPresidents:
I'm Glazer-out purely on account of that hideous hairline and ponytail

I actually like that Avram's hairstyle

Oasis007:
We have to get De Jong and Antony this window. We really must get them and sell Elanga, McTom and Garner to possible Suitors before the window closes.

No loan moves..... outright sales!

You are still on De Jong, e be like na you dey give Ten Hag advice ..

Kasavubu in action.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5NMENlWEU

ChristoBam:


No one here was against Malacia's signing when he got linked to us.

Question is have you actually watched this Gakpo?

The point is that we need someone to keep Rashford on his toes be it Gakpo or whoever and that person should be someone who can easily be trained to become a CF...Rashford will be relaxed if he has Elanga as his competitor for a starting berth...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIF2CWYI--0

Lmao wetin Virgil dey do for that first goal abeg

patrickmuf:
The point is that we need someone to keep Rashford on his toes be it Gakpo or whoever and that person should be someone who can easily be trained to become a CF...Rashford will be relaxed if he has Elanga as his competitor for a starting berth...

You still don't get it. If Antony comes in. The starting lineup to me is.

Sancho. Martial. Antony.

ETH can decide to for Rashford instead of Martial.

You're saying Elanga is Rashford's only competition which is wrong.

Sancho will start almost every game. Antony will do as well. How does this work if Sancho doesn't play on the left?

ChristoBam:

You still don't get it. If Antony comes in. The starting lineup to me is.

Sancho. Martial. Antony.

ETH can decide to for Rashford instead of Martial.

You're saying Elanga is Rashford's only competition which is wrong.

Sancho will start almost every game. Antony will do as well. How does this work if Sancho doesn't play on the left?

patrick is fixated on the point that we bought Sancho to be our RW. He does not want to consider any new information but is prepared to die on that hill.

After chasing Sancho for 2 years, I'm shocked he wasn't signed for the RW position again.

For Antony, nothing special in his game and he's not worth 80-100m. Even Van De Bench playing as a midfielder had more than 8 G/A in Eredivisie.

Expert17:
After chasing Sancho for 2 years, I'm shocked he wasn't signed for the RW position again.

For Antony, nothing special in his game and he's not worth 80-100m. Even Van De Bench playing as a midfielder had more than 8 G/A in Eredivisie.

He's actually a very exciting player with an high ceiling. I'd be really excited about the deal if we were going to sign him for 40m. But 80-100m?

And I would be comforted with the 'Ten Hag knows what he's doing' statement if he didn't recently try to sign Aunatovic.

afrodoc:



patrick is fixated on the point that we bought Sancho to be our RW. He does not want to consider any new information but is prepared to die on that hill.

There are prospects that at the very least will be very good players.
There are prospects that at the very least will be average players.
There are prospects that can be absolute flops at the very least.

Antony falls into the third category to me. You don't spend that kind of money of those types of players.

melodyogonna:

He likes to drop very deep to pick the ball, deep like DM position, pick from there, move it forward. The ball winner go likely play more of CM

That's more like DLP

Jodera:
That's more like DLP

Yeah. At Barcelona Busquets also play as a deep lying playmaker so there's no reason for De Jong to dey drop deep.