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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:37pm On Aug 28, 2022
lateefGRDT:
Zaha to Chelsea is flying....
Wat do you guys think??
Hearing both him and Auba.
Zaha has less than a year on his deal. Could be interesting, or as Romero says, very hot.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:37pm On Aug 28, 2022
FirstbornWds:


In the year that Leicester won the league, TOT came third.
That is not what he was referring to. He was saying Poch is the only 1 to achieve it with Tottenham. And that was a huge overachievement for Tottenham.

The people going back to the Leicester season are being mischievous especially if you consider that they are excusing Chelsea, City, United yet blaming Poch for that same season.

Poch is not perfect. Who is? He can't handle big name players. But he has consistently shown forward-thinking and innovative attacking displays with all his teams especially when coaching younger and more impressionable players.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lateefGRDT(m): 4:37pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Honestly that that line off me.
We scored 76 times in the EPL last season pochettino better that only once in 5 seasons with Tottenham.
And that's Tuchel first full season in EPL.

Tuchel Dortmund average 2.60 goals per game in burndesliga.
Tuchel PSG team scored the second most goals in PSG history in Ligue 1.

That android22 or iphone20 sabi package rubbish.
he go dey talk trash with confidence and epistle grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lateefGRDT(m): 4:38pm On Aug 28, 2022
Unlimited22:

Hearing both him and Auba.
Zaha has less than a year on his deal. Could be interesting, or as Romero says, very hot.
both auba and zaha for 30 - 35 MIL go too sweet
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:39pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Levy sacked him after leaving spurs 14th on the table and a dismal champions league position. It was not his problems with levy over transfers that got him sacked.
lol before I respond well, I'll let you go back research it and be sure. You know he was fighting the board for not agreeing to refresh the squad that got to the UCL final?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:42pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
lol before I respond well, I'll let you go back research it and be sure. You know he was fighting the board for not agreeing to refresh the squad that got to the UCL final?
That didn't mean he won't be sacked after leaving them 14th on the table. That squad was still a strong one without being refreshed by levy. Even compassionate owners will have sacked him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 4:43pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
You know he fell out with Levy?
How about Tuchel in Psg?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:45pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
That is not what he was referring to. He was saying Poch is the only 1 to achieve it with Tottenham. And that was a huge overachievement for Tottenham.

The people going back to the Leicester season are being mischievous especially if you consider that they are excusing Chelsea, City, United yet blaming Poch for that same season.

Poch is not perfect. Who is? He can't handle big name players. But he has consistently shown forward-thinking and innovative attacking displays with all his teams especially when coaching younger and more impressionable players.
They didn't all do well that season but those teams all won a trophy during his time in totenham. Why could he not do that too?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:45pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

That didn't mean he won't be sacked after leaving them 14th on the table. That squad was still a strong one without being refreshed by levy. Even compassionate owners will have sacked him.
Ok like what did Mourinho do with the squad?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:47pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

They didn't all do well that season but those teams all won a trophy during his time in totenham. Why could he not do that too?
Are they not traditionally better than Tottenham? Don't you achieve based on your predetermined expectations or objectives? If Arteta does not win the league this season is he a failure?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:48pm On Aug 28, 2022
Realtord43:
How about Tuchel in Psg?
What does that have to do with anything?

What am I saying and what are some of you saying?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 4:48pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Like their time so far in the English Premier league? Like how expansive their coached teams play? Like the output of many of their players attack wise? Like how free flowing their coached teams play? Their coaching identities and philosophies?
In Tuchel only full season in EPL we scored 76 goals that's better than pochettino 5 different season in EPL bar only 1.

Tuchel played expansive football all his managerial career only at Chelsea he was a little causious and that's even only bettered by city and more expansive than anything pochettino played at Spurs.

The only time Tuchel attackers are not high on numbers is only at Chelsea and that's majorly down to our attacker's ineptitude.

Coaching identity?
I'm sorry pochettino did not have any either.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:49pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Ok like what did Mourinho do with the squad?
He gave mixed result and was sacked before he played his first cup final for the club. It does not then mean pochettino is vindicated for not building upon top 4 finishes to winning a trophy all his time at spurs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:50pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Honestly that that line off me.
We scored 76 times in the EPL last season pochettino better that only once in 5 seasons with Tottenham.
And that's Tuchel first full season in EPL.

Tuchel Dortmund average 2.60 goals per game in burndesliga.
Tuchel PSG team scored the second most goals in PSG history in Ligue 1.

Mourinho's team scored the most goals in La Liga history. He is the best attacking coach in La Liga history.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:51pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Are they not traditionally better than Tottenham? Don't you achieve based on your predetermined expectations or objectives? If Arteta does not win the league this season is he a failure?
Arteta has won the fa cup. Leceister beat him to win their first premier league title when some thought he was the favourite then. He won nothing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:53pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
In Tuchel only full season in EPL we scored 76 goals that's better than pochettino 5 different season in EPL bar only 1.

Tuchel played expansive football all his managerial career only at Chelsea he was a little causious and that's even only bettered by city and more expansive than anything pochettino played at Spurs.

The only time Tuchel attackers are not high on numbers is only at Chelsea and that's majorly down to our attacker's ineptitude.

Coaching identity?
I'm sorry pochettino did not have any either.
How many seasons has TT coached in the EPL?

THIS Chelsea is more expansive than Liverpool? Brighton?

You watched Tottenham under Poch and they were not expansive? You saw them play teams and park the bus or play strictly on the counter?

Anyone who watches TTs Chelsea will see a constantly attacking set up?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:55pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

He gave mixed result and was sacked before he played his first cup final for the club. It does not then mean pochettino is vindicated for not building upon top 4 finishes to winning a trophy all his time at spurs.
The final is not the same one Poch reached too? Did Poch not also reach a UCL final something Mou did not do with RM? How was he going to build on the team when Levy refused to support him? Is that not what Boehly is doing for TT now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 4:56pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Arteta has won the fa cup. Leceister beat him to win their first premier league title when some thought he was the favourite then. He won nothing.
When the season begun Tottenham were favorites?

I asked about Arteta this season since he is now first and has won all games. Will he be a failure if Arsenal say finish 2nd?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 5:10pm On Aug 28, 2022
You guys need to relax. If I say Graham Potter is the 3rd best attacking coach in the league behind Pep and Klopp that does not mean I am saying he is better than TT or Conté overall.

And you are not proving me wrong by showing me that Brighton scored for e.g 50 goals and that Chelsea scored 76 goals.

Chelsea is the better team and will win more games which is related to scoring more goals. But if you watch the way Brighton plays and the advanced positions the average players take, you will see the point.

Use numbers in context if you must use them. Nobody will watch Mourinho's teams and conclude that he is a better attacking coach than Sarri. Even if Mou is better overall than Sarri.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:10pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Mourinho's team scored the most goals in La Liga history. He is the best attacking coach in La Liga history.
I get your time today.
You too dey package rubbish with confidence.

Firstly I can see you can't defend this any longer because you can't even counter any of my points instead you deflect to another topic entire by bringing Mourinho.

Secondly this a coach vs another coach; so to sound sensible you need to compare Mourinho to any attacking coach.

Furthermore That Mourinho's record is an anomaly because that's the main (if not only) worthy attacking stats he has.
And I can also tell you he conceded the least goal in EPL history.
And he also have the most clean sheet in a season.
And all sort of other defensive record.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:12pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
You know he fell out with Levy?
Yet, you’re finding difficult to believe same thing happened to Tuchel in PSG.

Why are you people like this?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 5:15pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
What does that have to do with anything?

What am I saying and what are some of you saying?
you were sayin Tuchel was Sack due to bad result earlier?

tuchel left psg in 3rd with only one point behind 1st and 2nd.
while lille and lyon were in 1st and 2nd respectively with only goal differences btw them.

in two season, he won 6 trophies and a ucl final.

pochetino came and melt better player but couldnt handle them.
he was so clueless psg was managing to win game with lots losses and draw.

he getting to ucl final with spur was shell luck and robbery against mancity, you knw this ar a city fans. Reason the ucl final btw lvpol nd spur was on of the worst ucl final ever, he was really poor with his tactics nd he is a mid coach for a mid club only. His days at spur and psg can only be term as a failure!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 5:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
I get your time today.
You too dey package rubbish with confidence.

Firstly I can see you can't defend this any longer because you can't even counter any of my points instead you deflect to another topic entire by bringing Mourinho.

Secondly this a coach vs another coach; so to sound sensible you need to compare Mourinho to any attacking coach.

Furthermore That Mourinho's record is an anomaly because that's the main (if not only) worthy attacking stats he has.
And I can also tell you he conceded the least goal in EPL history.
And he also have the most clean sheet in a season.
And all sort of other defensive record.
If you veer off into casting aspersions I won't respond again as I am not conversing with you to learn anything.

I brought up Mourinho to show how simplistic and contextless your argument is.

Chelsea scored 76 goals and Poch's Tottenham only beat that tally once therefore, TT is a better attacking coach is a reductive argument. I showed an analogy to help you see that that style of arguing is fallacious.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Mourinho's team scored the most goals in La Liga history. He is the best attacking coach in La Liga history.
Until proven otherwise, he is. smiley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 5:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
donstan18:

Yet, you’re finding difficult to believe same thing happened to Tuchel in PSG.

Why are you people like this?
Where did I say or imply this?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:17pm On Aug 28, 2022
donstan18:

Yet, you’re finding difficult to believe same thing happened to Tuchel in PSG.

Why are you people like this?

grin grin You don't know Eruditor abi?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 5:18pm On Aug 28, 2022
Realtord43:
you were sayin Tuchel was Sack due to bad result earlier?

tuchel left psg in 3rd with only one point behind 1st and 2nd.
while lille and lyon were in 1st and 2nd respectively with only goal differences btw them.

in two season, he won 6 trophies and a ucl final.

pochetino came and melt better player but couldnt handle them.
he was so clueless psg was managing to win game with lots losses and draw.

he getting to ucl final with spur was shell luck and robbery against mancity, you knw this ar a city fans. Reason the ucl final btw lvpol nd spur was on of the worst ucl final ever, he was really poor with his tactics nd he is a mid coach for a mid club only. His days at spur and psg can only be term as a failure!
I did not say that. You don't understand what I have been saying. Just read slowly and catch up.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:19pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
How many seasons has TT coached in the EPL?

THIS Chelsea is more expansive than Liverpool? Brighton?

You watched Tottenham under Poch and they were not expansive? You saw them play teams and park the bus or play strictly on the counter?

Anyone who watches TTs Chelsea will see a constantly attacking set up?
You are just being stubborn and not ready to admit you goofed.
Is it by season spent in EPL?

In Ligue 1 TT have better attacking output.

In EPL TT already have better output in 5/6 of pochettino EPL seasons.

In their entire career TT have better attacking output.
So what is the stat to conclude Pochettino coached more attacking play than Tuchel?

Pochettino is not a defensive coach that's not the bone of contention but he did not coach attacking play better than Tuchel.

Yes this Chelsea play high line than Liverpool and Brighton. (Check the picture below).

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 5:20pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
When the season begun Tottenham were favorites?

I asked about Arteta this season since he is now first and has won all games. Will he be a failure if Arsenal say finish 2nd?
Totenham and leceister were the two front-runners for the title once they entered may. Assnal were also challenging them at one point before it became a two horse race before he started dropping more points and everything finished when he messed up against us. Knowing he had the stronger team he was seen as the favourite before leceister. Arteta has won the fa cup.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 5:22pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
If you veer off into casting aspersions I won't respond again as I am not conversing with you to learn anything.

I brought up Mourinho to show how simplistic and contextless your argument is.

Chelsea scored 76 goals and Poch's Tottenham only beat that tally once therefore, TT is a better attacking coach is a reductive argument. I showed an analogy to help you see that that style of arguing is fallacious.

A good way to chicken out when you are cornered.

At PSG he coached more attacking play than pochettino too.
In fact their entire career he coached more attacking play than pochettino so on what basis should I believe what you said and put any stat to defend your claim.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lateefGRDT(m): 5:23pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
You guys need to relax. If I say Graham Potter is the 3rd best attacking coach in the league behind Pep and Klopp that does not mean I am saying he is better than TT or Conté overall.

And you are not proving me wrong by showing me that Brighton scored for e.g 50 goals and that Chelsea scored 76 goals.

Chelsea is the better team and will win more games which is related to scoring more goals. But if you watch the way Brighton plays and the advanced positions the average players take, you will see the point.

Use numbers in context if you must use them. Nobody will watch Mourinho's teams and conclude that he is a better attacking coach than Sarri. Even if Mou is better overall than Sarri.
bros you are still capping nonsense...
Tuchel vs poch
They both coached same team... Tuchel's team scored 105 vs poch team that scored 90
Who is the better attacking coach?

You don't want us to use goals to judge them, then what do we use to judge?!... Clean sheet or interceptions?
Bro you talk nonsense with too much confidence... Na why you lose that bet and still no pay up
You lucky you still have your hands too!!

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