OVA200:
You are just being stubborn and not ready to admit you goofed.
Is it by season spent in EPL?

In Ligue 1 TT have better attacking output.

In EPL TT already have better output in 5/6 of pochettino EPL seasons.

In their entire career TT have better attacking output.
So what is the stat to conclude Pochettino coached more attacking play than Tuchel?

Pochettino is not a defensive coach that's not the bone of contention but he did not coach attacking play better than Tuchel.

Yes this Chelsea play high line than Liverpool and Brighton. (Check the picture below).

So Chelsea played more of a highline than Liverpool this past season? lol

Wait, if Pep was coaching Wolves with the same quality of players currently at Wolves will his team score more goals than Tottenham under Conte?

I am wading through a lot of fluff you have above.

Android22:
The final is not the same one Poch reached too? Did Poch not also reach a UCL final something Mou did not do with RM? How was he going to build on the team when Levy refused to support him? Is that not what Boehly is doing for TT now?

Mourinho was sacked before he played his final. Pochettino played his own and lost. Mourinho won his first champions league final as an underdog. Pochettino went to his first champions league final as the underdog and lost. Levy not backing pochettino does not mean he should not be doing better by performing poorly in champions league group stage and being in 14th position in the premier league.

Android22:
Where did I say or imply this?

4 times you were called out that Tuchel didn’t get sacked because of performance, but a fallout, what did you say? Did you admit? Did you agree? No! But kept packing jargons with epistle.

And here you are, trying to use the same line for someone who left Spurs wallowing on 14th position.

WhoDeyHause:

Totenham and leceister were the two front-runners for the title once they entered may. Assnal were also challenging them at one point before it became a two horse race before he started dropping more points and everything finished when he messed up against us. Knowing he had the stronger team he was seen as the favourite before leceister. Arteta has won the fa cup.

Can you simply understand the question you are asked before responding?

airmark:


You don't know Eruditor abi?

Omo! Was actually liking his stands on the argument until he goofed with that line.

Android22:
Can you simply understand the question you are asked before responding?

Who was seen as the favourite to win the premier league by may Leceister or totenham?

Ennyjay69:
so he even slipped further down

We have different types of fans here that want us to fail
Imagine hiring popi as our dof
We will have marcelo,silva,Alves,coutinho,finished hazard and busquet with poch as the manager

You will be having Salah in the team while turning the league and UCL to our birthright.

donstan18:

4 times you were called out that Tuchel didn’t get sacked because of performance, but a fallout, what did you say? Did you admit? Did you agree? No! But kept packing jargons with epistle.

And here you are, trying to use the same line for someone who left Spurs wallowing on 14th position.

There is literally nobody here who has said anything about TT that I did not already know. You can dig my posts as Android17 on the United thread. I know more about why he left PSG than anyone has written here. You can check it out for yourself.

The people bringing it up are just deflecting which is why I ignored it.

WhoDeyHause:

Mourinho was sacked before he played his final. Pochettino played his own and lost. Mourinho won his first champions league final as an underdog. Pochettino went to his first champions league final as the underdog and lost. Levy not backing pochettino does not mean he should not be doing better by performing poorly in champions league group stage and being in 14th position in the premier league.

Porto was an underdog to Monaco?

Ok. Thanks for your time.

Android22:
There is literally nobody here who has said anything about TT that I did not already know. You can dig my posts as Android17 on the United thread. I know more about why he left PSG than anyone has written here. You can check it out for yourself.

The people bringing it up are just deflecting which is why I ignored it.

All you typed has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.

Why didn’t you admit that he was sacked because of a fallout, but had to use the same line for Poch, the shameless notorious bottler.

That’s my point. No dey tell me how experienced you are on PSG management issues. Stay in line, no dey move anyhow.

OVA200:
A good way to chicken out when you are cornered.

At PSG he coached more attacking play than pochettino too.
In fact their entire career he coached more attacking play than pochettino so on what basis should I believe what you said and put any stat to defend your claim.

lol

TT is to me better because he is more efficient and he coaches his teams to be more efficient.

A more efficient team will produce more results.

A more efficient team is not the same as a more attacking team.

Let me know you understand what I have said thus far before I add more layers to it.

Android22:
It is easier to win a title with Dortmund than Tottenham. In Dortmund, only Bayern is better than you. In Tottenham, you have 5 other traditionally better teams. It is arguable that finishing 2nd with Tottenham is a better achievement than winning the DFB Pokal.

he can't do shit with Chelsea,sack pep and hire him if you like him so much

donstan18:

All you typed has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.

Why didn’t you admit that he was sacked because of a fallout, but had to use the same line for Poch, the shameless notorious bottler.

That’s my point. No dey tell me how experienced you are on PSG management issues. Stay in line, no dey move anyhow.

You are showing that you don't read posts well before replying just like I had to repeat 3 times that TT was overall better to me before you saw it even though I had said it many times prior.

Again, I ignored that part when people brought it up because it adds nothing to the conversation about which coach has the better attacking pedigree.

Read before responding.

Ennyjay69:
he can't do shit with Chelsea,sack pep and hire him if you like him so much

Another example of people who respond without understanding.

Android22:
Porto was an underdog to Monaco?

Ok. Thanks for your time.

How was Porto bigger than Monaco? The opposition they knocked out was stronger than Porto's. They had rothen and morentes. Pochettino is a bottler and is neither a better coach or attacking coach than tuchel.

Android22:
Another example of people who respond without understanding.

Mr understanding,poch is a failure,very simple

Android22:
So Chelsea played more of a highline than Liverpool this past season? lol

Wait, if Pep was coaching Wolves with the same quality of players currently at Wolves will his team score more goals than Tottenham under Conte?

I am wading through a lot of fluff you have above.

I about to reply a post you made up there without quoting anyone so I guess I'm going to combine the reply here.

It shocked you that we played more high line than Liverpool last season? Well I'm not shocked, if you watch our matches (bar city) last season we are dominant team and created more chances than all our opponent.
Our attacker's ineptitude is the reason we are having this conversation.

You can pull out any attacking metric from last season and you will see we will definitely be there among the top.

In the case of Pep coaching wolves; I will tell you he won't be able to match the big boys in attacking output because the margins is too wide between both clubs but he will be better than all his pairs (i.e the rest mid table team).
Practal example is Brighton graham Potter current.

But in the case of pochettino and Tuchel the disparity between both clubs is not as wide as the case you reference.
But if we should to ignore that their time at PSG is the best example to measure both coaches because pochettino is the immediate successor of Tuchel but you don't want to go that line because it did not favour the line you tow.

To round this discussion up bring out proof to back your claim that pochettino coach a better attacking play than Tuchel?

Kane just missed a penalty.

Lol

Mike Tyson is a better "attacking" boxer than Mayweather. But overall Mayweather is a better boxer even though Mayweather is a defensive fighter.

Don't tell me Mayweather never lost therefore he is a better "attacking" boxer than Tyson.

Ennyjay69:
how many years did he use at spurs that he couldn't even win a spoon with the squad he has and the money he spent?
He has kane and son and he couldn't even do shit[b],he always get outclassed against top managers
Spurs won the league Cup before him btw[/b]

Pls who are the top managers that outclassed him we will compare them with Tuchel plus you had to go back to 2008 to make a point against Pochettino only means one thing,you no get point.

Android22:
lol

TT is to me better because he is more efficient and he coaches his teams to be more efficient.

A more efficient team will produce more results.

A more efficient team is not the same as a more attacking team.

Let me know you understand what I have said thus far before I add more layers to it.

Conte is the best example to use for an efficient coach.
Being better at coaching attacking play should result to better attacking output right?

Then bring out your proof to defend your claim?

kingBolton:

Someone that couldn't win even a carabao cup with Kane Son Erickson Ali Alderweireld Vertonghen Walker Dembele shouldn't be coming to Chelsea to replace Tuchel.
We want an upgrade not a downgrade.

Pellegrini couldn't win ordinary copa dey ray with real madrid should not make him fit for man city job now ?

OVA200:
I about to reply a post you made up there without quoting anyone so I guess I'm going to combine the reply here.

It shocked you that we played more high line than Liverpool last season? Well I'm not shocked, if you watch our matches (bar city) last season we are dominant team and created more chances than all our opponent.
Our attacker's ineptitude is the reason we are having this conversation.

You can pull out any attacking metric from last season and you will see we will definitely be there among the top.

In the case of Pep coaching wolves; I will tell you he won't be able to match the big boys in attacking output because the margins is too wide between both clubs but he will be better than all his pairs (i.e the rest mid table team).
Practal example is Brighton graham Potter current.

But in the case of pochettino and Tuchel the disparity between both clubs is not as wide as the case you reference.
But if we should to ignore that their time at PSG is the best example to measure both coaches because pochettino is the immediate successor of Tuchel but you don't want to go that line because it did not favour the line you tow.

To round this discussion up bring out proof to back your claim that pochettino coach a better attacking play than Tuchel?

You are slowly seeing my point. Pep's team won't outscore Tottenham most likely but people watching his teams will see that he is better at setting up his team to attack than Conte.

That is my argument concerning TT and Poch. Poch knows how to set his teams up to attack. He may not be great at man management or defensive duties or counter attacks or making substitutions or reading the other team's tactics or handling egomaniacs but the attack part he has shown more innovation than TT.

I can build on this but I don't want to make a long post.

Android22:
Mike Tyson is a better "attacking" boxer than Mayweather. But overall Mayweather is a better boxer even though Mayweather is a defensive fighter.

Don't tell me Mayweather never lost therefore he is a better "attacking" boxer than Tyson.

You don deflect to boxing.
From Mourinho to Potter to guadiola to Mike Tyson to Mayweather just because you have no fact to butress your claim.

Bring proof let those people rest.

OVA200:
Conte is the best example to use for an efficient coach.
Being better at coaching attacking play should result to better attacking output right?

Then bring out your proof to defend your claim?

It may not necessarily result in greater attacking output. Hence the Pep Wolves analogy.

OVA200:
You don deflect to boxing.
From Mourinho to Potter to guadiola to Mike Tyson to Mayweather just because you have no fact to butress your claim.

Bring proof let those people rest.

lol this is purely analogical. I want you to get the crux of my argument first.

Meanwhile, Liverpool consistently played a higher line than Chelsea did all season. I can't take any visual aid or graph seriously that cannot capture that. That is just a lie.

Everybody knows Liverpool's weak point.

If you wish Poch on Chelsea, may he be your manager.

And if you claim to be Chelsea fan and wish that bottling merchant on Chelsea, e no go better for you.

Madrid parked a bus against Pochettino's PSG. Carlo Ancelotti. He parked a bus home and away against PSG.

Android22:
You are slowly seeing my point. Pep's team won't outscore Tottenham most likely but people watching his teams will see that he is better at setting up his team to attack than Conte.

That is my argument concerning TT and Poch. Poch knows how to set his teams up to attack. He may not be great at man management or defensive duties or counter attacks or making substitutions or reading the other team's tactics or handling egomaniacs but the attack part he has shown more innovation than TT.

I can build on this but I don't want to make a long post.

To proof to you that pep coach a more attacking play than Conte is very easy with several stats;
From chance created to;
Number of goals to;
Average Possession per game to;
Highline to;
Number of shot on and off target, and so on.

But you can't do that for pochettino against Tuchel and you expect me to just take your word for it.

I have given you every possible stat to show Tuchel is better at coaching attacking play than pochettino and you can't counter or provide your evidence and you expect me to just believe you as per na YOU now.

Android22:
lol this is purely analogical. I want you to get the crux of my argument first.

Meanwhile, Liverpool consistently played a higher line than Chelsea did all season. I can't take any visual aid or graph seriously that cannot capture that. That is just a lie.

Everybody knows Liverpool's weak point.

Then provide evidence?

Liverpool did not play higher line than Chelsea I have given you my evidence you either debunk it with fact or provide yours?

Expect that their is no way I will just take your words and believe it.

Android22:
Madrid parked a bus against Pochettino's PSG. Carlo Ancelotti. He parked a bus home and away against PSG.

And he parked his own bus that made real Madrid score the three goals that knocked him out in the last 30 minutes.

Bombblacks:

How can a club that was not expected to finish top 4 before the season starts bottle a title. If Leicester had finished 2nd that season, would you call ranieri a bottler and a useless coach?

If you begin to coach Aston villa tomorrow and you finish second,trust me the kind of fans here will tell you bottled the league. There is no exceeding expectations in the dictionary, it is either winning or bottling. Same people will tell you klopp bottle league and UCL at Dortmund as if Dortmund were expected to win the league and UCL.