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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lateefGRDT(m): 6:02pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
You don deflect to boxing.
From Mourinho to Potter to guadiola to Mike Tyson to Mayweather just because you have no fact to butress your claim.

Bring proof let those people rest.
bro be like u get time sef...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:04pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
To proof to you that pep coach a more attacking play than Conte is very easy with several stats;
From chance created to;
Number of goals to;
Average Possession per game to;
Highline to;
Number of shot on and off target, and so on.

But you can't do that for pochettino against Tuchel and you expect me to just take your word for it.

I have given you every possible stat to show Tuchel is better at coaching attacking play than pochettino and you can't counter or provide your evidence and you expect me to just believe you as per na YOU now.
I don't want you to take my word for it but at least I want you to understand what is being debated.

The data you have above is great but you are mentioning it with what Pep's teams have been not what they could have been if he was in Wolves. Do you agree that some of those stats will be less than Conte's in Tottenham if Pep was in Wolves?

Do you agree that a team could defensively also have more possession?

We are making progress.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:04pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

And he parked his own bus that made real Madrid score the three goals that knocked him out in the last 30 minutes.
lol

I think the conversation has now gone beyond you, bro.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:06pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Then provide evidence?

Liverpool did not play higher line than Chelsea I have given you my evidence you either debunk it with fact or provide yours?

Expect that their is no way I will just take your words and believe it.
Your evidence is the athletic screenshot which nobody can verify? How will we be able to ascertain it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:07pm On Aug 28, 2022
Spurs sha!!

Nawao!!

See crossing nh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:08pm On Aug 28, 2022
Kane is offside.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:09pm On Aug 28, 2022
Allowing that goal is a complete fraud.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 6:12pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
lol

I think the conversation has now gone beyond you, bro.
Same pochettino that was parking the bus against Bayern without lewadoski the year before. Was it not counters mbappe scored? He still parked the bus too against city for different part In both legs. I won't even talk about him facing klopp.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:12pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
I don't want you to take my word for it but at least I want you to understand what is being debated.

The data you have above is great but you are mentioning it with what Pep's teams have been not what they could have been if he was in Wolves. Do you agree that some of those stats will be less than Conte's in Tottenham if Pep was in Wolves?

Do you agree that a team could defensively also have more possession?

We are making progress.
If you don't want me to take your word for it then provide your evidence?

I have already answered that pep to wolves he can't better the big boys but he will better his pairs.

Yes a team can be defensive and have possession but their other attacking output will be very low. So to deduce a coach attacking capacity we will check all attacking metric.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:14pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
Your evidence is the athletic screenshot which nobody can verify? How will we be able to ascertain it?
Then provide yours?

If The athletic is not more reliable then you can go ahead and provide a more reliable one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:14pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Arteta has won the fa cup. Leceister beat him to win their first premier league title when some thought he was the favourite then. He won nothing.


Leicester city beat who again to win which EPL title ? grin grin cheesy cheesy


Now i can see were all this Pochettino slander is coming from .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:16pm On Aug 28, 2022
lateefGRDT:
bro be like u get time sef...
Honestly he too dey yarn rubbish for here.
Same way he was here yarning dust about the foul on cucurella against spurs, until I was force to debunk his rubbish.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by youngZee23: 6:21pm On Aug 28, 2022
When ppl hate u..they will do anything to trash u..how can someone compare TT and Poch..TT reached 2 finals,quarter final and 3rd in league in one full season in charge with mid players that there individual errors cost us alot..thesame players that pep and klopp will not accept to coach..u should wait till end of this season b4 all this shalaye..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:21pm On Aug 28, 2022
Where's Apari Raumdeuter, Lordfatcow, A40 aka Ajakaja40?

Belotti can never be clubless like I told you, he turned down many bids as he only wanted to remain in Italy and play for Mou.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:22pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Totenham and leceister were the two front-runners for the title once they entered may. Assnal were also challenging them at one point before it became a two horse race before he started dropping more points and everything finished when he messed up against us. Knowing he had the stronger team he was seen as the favourite before leceister. Arteta has won the fa cup.


You are just giving points that can be easily counter without even thinking deep. Bring other point to downplay Pochettino not this one that you are saying.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:25pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
If you don't want me to take your word for it then provide your evidence?

I have already answered that pep to wolves he can't better the big boys but he will better his pairs.

Yes a team can be defensive and have possession but their other attacking output will be very low. So to deduce a coach attacking capacity we will check all attacking metric.
You have not provided any evidence for anything you are saying either. Your argument is that Dortmund averaged more goals than Español or Southampton. No shit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:26pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Then provide yours?

If The athletic is not more reliable then you can go ahead and provide a more reliable one.
If someone teaches you how to read will they also teach you how to understand? If I want to verify that the athletic data is right, how will I go about it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:28pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Honestly he too dey yarn rubbish for here.
Same way he was here yarning dust about the foul on cucurella against spurs, until I was force to debunk his rubbish.
You debunked that if the ball was not in play the freekick would have gone to Chelsea or you don't know that was the argument?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:31pm On Aug 28, 2022
Chelsea are looking to offload midfielder Ross Barkley before this week's transfer deadline - and could even offer him a pay-off to exit the club. Barkley still has a year left on his £200,000 a week deal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:31pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Same pochettino that was parking the bus against Bayern without lewadoski the year before. Was it not counters mbappe scored? He still parked the bus too against city for different part In both legs. I won't even talk about him facing klopp.
Parking the bus is not the same as counter attacking football.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by youngZee23: 6:33pm On Aug 28, 2022
donstan18:
If you wish Poch on Chelsea, may he be your manager.

And if you claim to be Chelsea fan and wish that bottling merchant on Chelsea, e no go better for you. cry
Dnt mind them.. all of them dnt like chelsea..check the way they support any mid player linked with blues but the play is not good for there teams..poch over TT is like lagos over paris..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:37pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
You debunked that if the ball was not in play the freekick would have gone to Chelsea or you don't know that was the argument?
Let's not go back there again.
You said it's not a free kick because the ball was not in play and spurs will be allow to take the subsequent corner kick irrespective of VAR and referee verdict but I told you the ball is in play and it's a free kick and the subsequent corner should not be taken.
Which I'm very right about.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:38pm On Aug 28, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Mourinho was sacked before he played his final. Pochettino played his own and lost. Mourinho won his first champions league final as an underdog. Pochettino went to his first champions league final as the underdog and lost. Levy not backing pochettino does not mean he should not be doing better by performing poorly in champions league group stage and being in 14th position in the premier league.



The bolded reveals why your predictions are always the opposite. Being bias will always expose itself without even trying.


Real Madrid vs Valencia UCL finals .....Real Madrid won

Bayern Munich vs Dortmund......Bayern M won

Man united vs Chelsea...........Man united won

Real Madrid vs A. Madrid ....... Real Madrid won.

Ac Milan vs Juventus.........Ac Milan won.

Chelsea vs Man city ..........Chelsea won

You can see a pattern with the more traditional teams winning when meeting with other less traditional team from the same league but somehow you expected Tottenham to beat Liverpool because of your bias leaving all this factors that were not favourable to Totteham.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:38pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
If someone teaches you how to read will they also teach you how to understand? If I want to verify that the athletic data is right, how will I go about it?
You don begin dey throw jab.
If your brain is working perfectly you should The athletic have a website, and a Twitter page which dey use.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:40pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
Let's not go back there again.
You said it's not a free kick because the ball was not in play and spurs will be allow to take the subsequent corner kick irrespective of VAR and referee verdict but I told you the ball is in play and it's a free kick and the subsequent corner should not be taken.
Which I'm very right about.
I said IF the ball was not in play it will only be a red card but the corner still stays with Tottenham. You proved to me that the ball was in play so I rested my case.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:41pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
You don begin dey throw jab.
If your brain is working perfectly you should The athletic have a website, and a Twitter page which dey use.
I know the athletic. My point is, nobody can verify that data so it is useless using it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:43pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
You have not provided any evidence for anything you are saying either. Your argument is that Dortmund averaged more goals than Español or Southampton. No shit.

What about PSG?

Pochettino inherited the squad from Tuchel and even went on to add Lionel Messi but he can't replicate the attacking output of Tuchel.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:44pm On Aug 28, 2022
Android22:
I know the athletic. My point is, nobody can verify that data so it is useless using it.
The article is on their website now.
Go and read it or have you lost your reading ability.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:45pm On Aug 28, 2022
Ennyjay69:
he can't do shit with Chelsea,sack pep and hire him if you like him so much


If we take your point and juxtapose it with that of other managers like Pelligrini with similar managerial trajectory like that of Pochettino, you will see that you are very wrong. Pelligrini later won the league with 2x after not being able to do with the teams below.

Villarreal
Malaga
Real madrid
Man city
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:47pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:
What about PSG?

Pochettino inherited the squad from Tuchel and even went on to add Lionel Messi but he can't replicate the attacking output of Tuchel.
TT is a good coach. He used attacking formations in his first season there and we saw the results. However, when injuries happened he changed style and the results dipped.

Pochettino did not have a balanced PSG team. They were clearly top heavy and he could not bench anyone. They were good in attack but average else where so of course, the effect was shown.

We are not discussing who is better OVERALL. Stick to attacking philosophies, advanced positions players take, improvements in attacking displays and output in players/teams over the course of their coaching careers. Poch is better than TT in those.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:49pm On Aug 28, 2022
OVA200:

The article is on their website now.
Go and read it or have you lost your reading ability.
lol what is the high line metric? If I wanted to know which team fouled more or scored more we can collate such data. How will you do so for high line?

Can you tell me the games Liverpool did not play a high line last season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 6:53pm On Aug 28, 2022
You have just thrown away Lukaku and Werner. Harvetz is now arguing football is not about scoring goals. Just 3 attacking players that have been dogshit under TT.

You guys literally complain about how you don't create enough chances. How your midfielders are not creative and many passes go backwards, sideways and harmlessly.

You depend on your wingbacks for all your creativity. Yet TT is an attacking guru. lol

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