BeardGangJnr1:

I stopped going to church since I finished sec school...I started thinking freely without being coreced or feeling obligated to accept certain things....I kept asking questions..but nobody answered me.... instead, they started saying I'm not supposed to ask such questions...that by just asking..I've sin against God...I was like...are u guys for real
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According to what's writen in the bible, only few christians, not even half will make their so-called heaven, and Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and other hundreds of religions in the world....so God will condemn more than half the population of this world bcus they didn't accept his son Jesus??
This defies All pertinent laws of logic

those guys really need help... Although you can't blame them much because they found themselves inside the foolishness even before their mother gave birth to them. More so, their brain was turned by their parents since birth... For them to free themselves it will take years...

MrDebonair:


God was everywhere and moved upon the face of the waters. He decided to partition the waters with firmament and called the firmament heaven. To the part below the firmament (heaven) which was still waters, he moved the waters to one side and called it sea and that with no water he called it earth(land).

Basically, created heavens for himself and gave man earth to dwell and dominate. Nobody knows the extent of the firmament (Heavens).
Just because you don't believe don't mean it's not true.

so God was in the water creating things so who created the water since according to your answer the water was there before God started creating things?

GodPrince:
its a simple issue my guy. If you don't believe that Boko Haram have 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven according to quran and Islamic teaching but you believe and want others to believe in your heaven then you're simply a mad person and I advise you to stop the madness and awaken yourself to realities of the spirit, science and nature.

Are you normal at all? Your sanity is in doubt here. Did I ever mention 72virgins or anything? It seems you have an unredeemable problem. Honestly, you need serious attention. I have to be very straight with you

GodPrince:
another mad man spotted. "Has anyone been there?" Is not a question? So you're also dumb in comprehending simple English language? Even if he wants to start an argument, according to English language "Has anyone been there?" Is a just a simple question. Stop being mad. You Christians irritate me.

It's either u have borderline personality disorder or intermittent explosive disorder. That's the only way to explain your unnecessary anger exhibition on a public forum. Your ranting and anger seems like a you were abused as a child.
Seek a psychiatrist and go for therapy.

Take this as an advice and not an insult.
Most people with deviant personality behaviour don't know they have a problem until it begins to impact on their personal life.

Opolopoopolonio:


You see why I said your mind is made up and you cannot be helped.

How can thousands of people be wrong The founder of the RCCG, Pa Akindayomi, is one of them. He came back to resolve a grudge stopping him from entering and then died again.

I have also met one of them myself. I have had dreams of the rapture like 3 to 4 times.

You are hell-bound. Just start going close to nakeddd fire in preparation for your final destination.

So according to you,it's true cos they imagined it to be, and all your reference are biblical not even logical.
You and your pastor who went to heaven need a thorough check cos that's a big sign of mental illness.

Ddworld:


What other proof do you need? You don't need a proof because the books are there with you and other documentations. Secondly, you've seen and heard of things that are beyond humans. What other proof do you need? Everything is there for you.

If you are still not convince, go out there and week for the truth. You have every right to question what don't seems to find interesting and check for yourself. Travel to Egypt, make enquires and ak relevant questions. Travel to isreal. Travel to museums and see higher humans. Seek knowledge and then make you stance.

I always, I can also choose not to believe anything about you, your ancestral or anything. I can also claim there are mere documentations.

Don't counter my claims with your half knowledge. Your encounter with spirituality should also be dated then you can claim people who have written what they wrote, knuws nothing.

Thank you

Shut up slave,it's just like saying I should believe in Spiderman because the comic book is there and the movie book is also there.

GodPrince:
so God was in the water creating things so who created the water since according to your answer the water was there before God started creating things?

Don't be myopic. Never said God was in water creating things. Said he was everywhere. He created the waters. Moved above the waters and decided to create Heaven and Earth by partitioning the waters.

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Shut up slave,it's just like saying I should believe in Spiderman because the comic book is there and the movie book is also there.

Why shouting? Everything about you is comic. Especially people you choose to call your parents, your birth certificate, your early years are just fiction. I don't believe in it. FOOLS everywhere

MrDebonair:


Don't be myopic. Never said God was in water creating things. Said he was everywhere. He created the waters. Moved above the waters and decided to create Heaven and Earth by partitioning the waters.

show us the Bible verse that said God created waters.

Warmaterial:
those guys really need help... Although you can't blame them much because they found themselves inside the foolishness even before their mother gave birth to them. More so, their brain was turned by their parents since birth... For them to free themselves it will take years...

They are christians bcus they were born christians....most were christians by default...are christians bcus they were sired by Christin families......will they have been championing the Bible stuff...if they were sired by a family wit a different religious orientation?

SIRTee15:


It's either u have borderline personality disorder or intermittent explosive disorder. That's the only way to explain your unnecessary anger exhibition on a public forum. Your ranting and anger seems like a you were abused as a child.
Seek a psychiatrist and go for therapy.

Take this as an advice and not an insult.
Most people with deviant personality behaviour don't know they have a problem until it begins to impact on their personal life.

useless idiot who said "has anyone been there?" Is not a question. Shame on you. Go back to school and find out difference between questions and statements. Olodo

Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.

the same way u believe u have a soul,and wen the soul is out of ur body, immediately the body becomes corpse.you or anyone else have never seen this soul but you do believe it exists.

Ddworld:


Are you normal at all? Your sanity is in doubt here. Did I ever mention 72virgins or anything? It seems you have an unredeemable problem. Honestly, you need serious attention. I have to be very straight with you

ok let me ask you do you believe that according to the Quran and Islam there are virgins to be inherited by Muslims who died for God??, if you believe you're mad man if you don't believe but you want me to believe your heaven you're still a mad man. So rest olodo

Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.

Those heading there do. It's hard to comprehend for those not

GodPrince:
show us the Bible verse that said God created waters.

Reason I said don't be myopic. If God can separate waters with firmament to create heaven and earth. Definitely he must have created the waters, just as he created the firmament to divide the waters and went further to gather the waters into one place and called it sea and the other part land.

LMAO they guy go shock na. No more peace

MrDebonair:

Reason I said don't be myopic. If God can separate waters with firmament to create heaven and earth. Definitely he must have created the waters, just as he created the firmament to divide the waters and went further to gather the waters into one place and called it sea and the other part land.

get lost irredeemable idiot

I always ask if anyone have an idea of where they came from, to have anticipate where they are heading to...

We only know of the present, in which we knowledge we acquired here dictates what we do

GodPrince:
get lost irredeemable idiot

Surprised you don't have any further questions. Calling me irredeemable idiot speaks much about your person. I will not condescend to exchanging words with you. It just goes on to show that you are not worth my time.

Good luck to you and Enjoy the rest of your day.

Minjim:




Those heading there do. It's hard to comprehend for those not

it is harder for religious folks to prove the existence of heaven and hell. All they do is get emotional when challenged.

GodPrince:
ok let me ask you do you believe that according to the Quran and Islam there are virgins to be inherited by Muslims who died for God??, if you believe you're mad man if you don't believe but you want me to believe your heaven you're still a mad man. So rest olodo

I have said it earlier. Anything you believed in, seek knowledge on it and hold firmly to what your belief. I don't know anything about 72 virgins and can only counter it if I have deep knowledge about their belief.

Now come to think of it, was the 72virgins reported by who? You can be shocked that after your finding, it might all be falacy but since I have little knowledge on that side, I won't be able to say much on it.

That is what I am telling you as well. Seek knowledge. Understand the spirituality. BUT if you don't want to tow that path, don't accuse people who are towing it until you have a very solid fact against it.

My brother, anything you believe on, seek in-depth knowledge on it and hold on to it firmly BUT don't go against other people's belief if don't know much about it. Heaven is real. Elijah, called down fire in the fight between him and the prophet of baal. Apart that it is being documentated, the place is sacred and there are solid facts to it. Herod of Egypt is there. Birth of Christ is there. There are facts that apart from it being documentated, it is real.

Whatsoever you believe in, seek knowledge and know how it is being practice and past events that have taken place then you can hold on to the truth.

I don't go to Church because the old foundation of Christianity have been abandoned totally in Nigeria but that doesn't mean Christ is not real. I did my own findings and stick to what I believe.

I don't believe in any Nigerian pastor. I believe in my Bible and knowledge I have gotten on Christianity. Thank you

AbuAeesha:

the same way u believe u have a soul,and wen the soul is out of ur body, immediately the body becomes corpse.you or anyone else have never seen this soul but you do believe it exists.

Abu, I never told you I believe anything. Don't get too emotional

oliverwrites:
The point is even if heaven and hell are not ready, what would anyone who has lived GODLY miss? Jail term? STD? For me I would have missed nothing.

what is your own definition of 'lived GODLY'?

I have read the arguments on both sides and Interestingly the subject of argument is the belief (thinking) system. Those arguing 'for' believe heaven is real. Those arguing 'against' believe it is not real. It is left for any of the two sides to present their beliefs convincingly. Those insulting others are not even helping matters.

Here is my take. If we could accept the words of philosophers like Aristotle, Pluto, etc. Because they appeal to our extra sensory perception, why not the words of Jesus who had said the most profound words that even modern philosophers has no argument against, because of the absolute truth it projects about man's nature, concept of egalitarian society, and need for intervention beyond man's abilities. Where they stopped short is His claim as the Saviour of man from his temporal and eternal woes.

Jesus told a vivid story of heaven and hell's reality in Luke 16:19-30. This was not a parable but a real story, as specific names were mentioned, unlike parables where He used figurative persons. Heaven and hell are not on the mortal plane/dimension, they are on the Immortal plane, anyone trying to prove their existence in the mortal world would be unable to do so. Jesus depicted what happens after death. The soul of man could be carried by angels or just teleported to hell. This explains some of the facial expressions of people that just died, some are peaceful while some are contorted regardless of the level of pain they suffered leading to their deaths.

I watched a documentary about experiences of people at the point of death, made by some doctors, nurses, anestheticians etc . They observed that, at the passing of man from the mortal to immortal plane there are reactions that occur just before their deaths. Some passed on peacefully as if they were sleeping, regardless of the pain suffered, while some others passed on with fear, contorted faces and gloom because of the glimpse of the other side. They observed that those with practicing faith in Jesus are of the former.

Voltaire, a French poet with strong affirmation that God does not exist and that death is the end of all life forms, lived a very long life without much health challenges except old age issues. At the point of death, cringed and held tightly to his best friend, who was with him, with a fearful and tearful face saying that he was afraid of what lies beyond the veil, a deep, dark, endless gloom that was staring him.

Those doubting the reality of heaven and hell should summon courage to be near those who are at the gate of immortality and pay attention to their expressions as they have glimpses of what is waiting for them at the other side. They will have all the physical evidences they need.

I come in Peace.

muykem:
You are correct but non religion people have not be able to tell what happened after death.

of course nobody can tell since nobody has gone and come back

ada9ja:


And he received a valid response

that response doesn't 3ven make sense talk less of valid...

He doesn't have an answer to give the man

shinealight:


Do you need more concrete evidence? Do you see the air you breathe and can you stop breathing it even for two minutes and survive?
Do you know where that air comes from and who is responsible for replenishing it with the “life force” that enables you to continue living?
Lastly, do you know what leaves your physical body when you die and can you compel that ‘essence’ to remain in your body to enable you wake up from sleep each morning?
Open your eyes and Use your sense to understand that you are completely powerless …..less than a robot….without the Giver of Life who has His Abode in Heaven!!

calm down olodo. I said your leader dodge a question. I never told you I saw air. We all feel air and have different names for it according to each language. You that have seen/felt the heaven and hell should tell us what they look like. You can answer the question your leader dodged for him.

superCleanworks:

Looooolll.

Bros, shey you go make heaven like this. See finishing

pyyxxaro:
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