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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by IboHausaYoruba: 8:08am On Aug 31, 2022
Hmmn
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Discountsempai: 8:10am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:
The Japanese have two writing systems. Kana and Kanji. Kana consists of two subsystems which are the hiragana and katakana, while the kanji system is an angry god on its owncheesy.

Hiragana and katakana are just systems that consists of syllables or sounds which make up every single Japanese sound. Hiragana is used for local Japanese words while katakana is used for foreign and scientific words. For example in the hiragana system the syllable "ra" is ら and the syllable "o" is お, and in the katakana system "ra" is ラ and "o" is オ. They both have about 46 I'm not really sure though but I'll post a link:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjZ-c-zq8H4AhUQrxoKHV8YAUYQmhN6BAgJEA4&usg=AOvVaw2j5KxpzuJe8NuduDICKn7X

Now this all seems easy. Yeah, it would have been if kanji never existed. Kanji was the first writing system to be adopted in Japan, and it was imported from China (I guess our see where this train is going grin).

Kanji isn't based on syllables like kana, kanji is based on ideas just like the Egyptian hieroglyphics. Take for example this kanji character 木 , it looks like a tree right. Yup it is, it creates the idea of a tree. Now take this one 本 there's a line at the bottom which could mean something underneath the the tree or something underneath the ground or where the tree grew from. This means it could be root or origin or underground, well it's origin.

I know you're already seeing some issues with this shitty thing called kanji, but this is the least of your problems. Kanji characters don't retain their pronunciations or idea all the time when they are jammed with other characters. For example 木 on its own is pronounced "ki" but when it is used to make a word it's pronunciation could change. The same goes for the over 5000 kanji symbols shockedshockedshocked you talk wetin. Yes, there are over 5000, and no one really knows how many there are. An average Japanese person knows about 3000, while the smartasses know about 4000 or 5000. Yep, Japanese doesn't look so easy anymore.

What do I advise that you do? Well, learn it or change your dream country to an English speaking country or you can just learn something closer to English like German and go to Germany. If you do choose to learn Japanese, two years of hard work can make you a fluent Japanese speaker, reader and writer, but I'll advise you to forget writing and reading the language and learn how to speak it. Japanese for dummies is a nice book to begin with. There are also many online sources you can begin with.

So that is it, Jā mata.

You haven't even mentioned keigo..
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Toratora: 8:12am On Aug 31, 2022
Let me bookmark this thread as I believe in the future I might comeback to go through this thread.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by RPG2020(m): 8:16am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:

You followed me just to insult me, okay sir. gringrin



You never see anything yet


This is Nigeria the home of blood sucker's

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Truvelisback(m): 8:18am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:
TL; DR : Forget about japaing to Japan if you can't devote tons of hours of your time to learning how to read, write and speak Japanese. kiss

Now the Japanese speak only Japanese. Well, this doesn't seem like much, but it is much. You have to learn Japanese to be able to have day to day conversations with people, read billboards and signs, and most importantly: get a job or even school there. Japanese in Japan is as essential as water. So what do you do. You can change your dream country probably to New Zealand, Australia or whatever English speaking country you love or you could sit down and learn this piece of shite of a language.

Japanese is easy to speak. Within a month (of dedicated learning) you'd be quite comfortable with it. Just like me. Ohaiyō gozaimasu, Watashi wa Eiberu desu. This means Good morning, I am Abel. Note that I changed the spelling of my name because the Japanese usually change English names to suit their tongue.

Since it seems so easy, why am I making it look hard? Number one, Japanese don't use the Latin alphabet at all. So that crap I wrote up there is shit. Number two, the writing system of the Japanese is extremely difficult to master.

Japanese has two writing systems: kana and Kanji. Kana is further divided into hiragana and katakana while kanji is just kanji. Kana is easy as it is very close to the alphabet system of writing and is kind of constant (what you read is what you pronounce) but kanji on the other hand is just silly.

Kanji was directly copied from the Chinese hanzhi system centuries ago before kana was made by a Japanese Buddhist monk. İt is like the Egyptian hieroglyphics, but instead of having nice beautiful wholesome drawings, you have some ugly set of characters that require you to decrypt their meanings. The worst thing about kanji is not even how silly and unrelated the characters are to their meanings most of the time, the worst thing about it is it's unbelievable size. This piece of shite of a system has over 5000 characters/radicals and hell even after learning the so-called 3000 or 2500 average, you'd still meet a new one one day. Oh and I forgot to mention another annoying shit about the kanji system: it's pronunciation when used in a word is hardly ever consistent. For example this character 日 is normally pronounced nichi, but in this word 日本 it becomes Nihon that is Japan. This looks easy but what about this 3日, it's pronunciation is now jitsu. grin you see, this is even worse than English's terrible spelling system.

Having said this, if you have two years to waste, you can waste it learning Japanese or you can learn something like German or Finnish and head to these countries (i think Finnish is easier). However, you could just go to an English speaking country and put the work aside.
I never learn french finish, na Japan i wan learn?
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by AllKnowing: 8:20am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:
TL; DR : Forget about japaing to Japan if you can't devote tons of hours of your time to learning how to read, write and speak Japanese. kiss

Now the Japanese speak only Japanese. Well, this doesn't seem like much, but it is much. You have to learn Japanese to be able to have day to day conversations with people, read billboards and signs, and most importantly: get a job or even school there. Japanese in Japan is as essential as water. So what do you do. You can change your dream country probably to New Zealand, Australia or whatever English speaking country you love or you could sit down and learn this piece of shite of a language.

Japanese is easy to speak. Within a month (of dedicated learning) you'd be quite comfortable with it. Just like me. Ohaiyō gozaimasu, Watashi wa Eiberu desu. This means Good morning, I am Abel. Note that I changed the spelling of my name because the Japanese usually change English names to suit their tongue.

Since it seems so easy, why am I making it look hard? Number one, Japanese don't use the Latin alphabet at all. So that crap I wrote up there is shit. Number two, the writing system of the Japanese is extremely difficult to master.

Japanese has two writing systems: kana and Kanji. Kana is further divided into hiragana and katakana while kanji is just kanji. Kana is easy as it is very close to the alphabet system of writing and is kind of constant (what you read is what you pronounce) but kanji on the other hand is just silly.

Kanji was directly copied from the Chinese hanzhi system centuries ago before kana was made by a Japanese Buddhist monk. İt is like the Egyptian hieroglyphics, but instead of having nice beautiful wholesome drawings, you have some ugly set of characters that require you to decrypt their meanings. The worst thing about kanji is not even how silly and unrelated the characters are to their meanings most of the time, the worst thing about it is it's unbelievable size. This piece of shite of a system has over 5000 characters/radicals and hell even after learning the so-called 3000 or 2500 average, you'd still meet a new one one day. Oh and I forgot to mention another annoying shit about the kanji system: it's pronunciation when used in a word is hardly ever consistent. For example this character 日 is normally pronounced nichi, but in this word 日本 it becomes Nihon that is Japan. This looks easy but what about this 3日, it's pronunciation is now jitsu. grin you see, this is even worse than English's terrible spelling system.

Having said this, if you have two years to waste, you can waste it learning Japanese or you can learn something like German or Finnish and head to these countries (i think Finnish is easier). However, you could just go to an English speaking country and put the work aside.


Nope. I’m battling with 15 noun cases in Finnish. That means a given word changes in 15 ways depending on the subject-verb agreement.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by pocohantas(f): 8:21am On Aug 31, 2022
Beautiful thread LienwaltAbel.

I always knew you are a very intelligent man. Unlike those other coloured pillars on this forum. I would deactivate my account the day they post something meaningful.


LienwaltAbel:

gringrin of course, very like the Japanese. People who banned child porn in 2014 aren't really worth the headache. Not to mention the absurdly high rate of sexual harassment in the country especially on trains.

Make una no allow anime deceive you, those people get as they take be.

Shocking!!

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by maxkoko(m): 8:22am On Aug 31, 2022
Hi! I’m Here. What’s up?

Japan Japa no be here ooo.

But I just made up my mind.

I must go today.
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Chicastle: 8:22am On Aug 31, 2022
Here delsu means Delta state university

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by obidattian(f): 8:23am On Aug 31, 2022
honest advise
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Discountsempai: 8:23am On Aug 31, 2022
Personally, I won't mind learning Japanese, but due to pressures of work plus no openings for foreigners in my line of work there... sigh

I also like anime. I also think liking or loving a country's popular culture or part of it is not a good reason to move there. You have to have a purpose to move.
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Fucklove(m): 8:28am On Aug 31, 2022
I just pray Peacefull will give me Japanese Visa for free cry embarassed

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by monfizzy(m): 8:33am On Aug 31, 2022
Japan is a lovely country however I can only visit there, not live just like I won’t live in Australia for anything. Any country that takes at least 24hours to travel to Nigeria isn’t for me. If no be Europe then North America at most, otherwise I for remain for Naija.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by GloriousGbola: 8:38am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:

gringrin of course, very like the Japanese. People who banned child porn in 2014 aren't really worth the headache. Not to mention the absurdly high rate of sexual harassment in the country especially on trains.

Make una no allow anime deceive you, those people get as they take be.

sote any phone picture app must have a shutter noise - no stealth upskirting

just take it that japanese are weird jare
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by FireUpNow(m): 8:45am On Aug 31, 2022
So we gonna kama kazi like Olu maintain

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by papiilo(m): 8:45am On Aug 31, 2022
peacefull:


I'm sorry for late reply to you again.

Yes, I'm a Japanese.
I'm very happy to heard that you don't hate Japanese peoples or Japan smiley
Thank you so much! I appreciate you!!

I will read this your comment well and I will reply you later. Sorry.
I thought Japanese also speak Chinese language
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by dimexy247(m): 8:57am On Aug 31, 2022
Chiatshu
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by SKhanmi: 8:58am On Aug 31, 2022
Can't you guys learn a better skill and go remote? Researching about many of this countries and reading foreigners experiences in Japan on 4chan would make you realize you can't really expect most of them to give you more returns than what their average citizens already make unless you are into importation or business.

Been eyeing the German language but man, na die. Still if I'm going to end up there, I'll definitely learn the language to blend in, maybe get some local experience then go fully remote, work with American companies etc.

That way you can make more while living almost anywhere, that is if tax doesn't eat up most of your income.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by rainlover(m): 9:00am On Aug 31, 2022
It will be difficult to learn Japanese language in 6 months grin
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Ulunne777(f): 9:06am On Aug 31, 2022
@peacefully,what does your Nigerian husband do.I mean his work/occupation?
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Mezigo: 9:07am On Aug 31, 2022
[quote author=peacefull post=116213238]

Hello, LienwaltAbel san!

Yes, Japan have many issues.
My opinion is no countries are perfect just like humans. No one is perfect.
Japan and Japanese peoples are not perfect.
We have a lot of issues.

Oh.... No....
Yes! sexual abuse... Many many Hentai in here.
Very disgusting!

Thank you so much for your kind words about Japanese peoples! I appreciate you!!

I'm still sad about Abe san.
To me, I'm feeling like Japan is no more safe.
I think many Japanese peoples are feeling like this now.
Many many bad things happened. Every day have bad news.
Maybe because I have never been to another countries that's why I can easily to have this kind of feel.
And I have some Hentai experience like someone chased me, someone entered my house to stolen my lingeries, someone came to around my house every 2 or 3 months to peeping my house, someone hiding and doing masterbate on the street to showed me what he is doing etc.
I don't remember how many times I called police to help.
Only this my experience making me here is not safe.

I think I'm getting to understand than before!
Thank you so much!

One of interesting about "country has nothing for us" is some Japanese peoples are also saying like that.
Like they said "Japan is world ATM", "Japanese government is very kind for foreigners or other countries, But ignoring own citizens", "throw a lot of our money (tax) for helping other countries, But don't wanna help own peoples" etc.

Yes, I think so, not easy for foreigners to get work especially permanent work in here.
But like my prefecture have assist for foreigners who wanna start business in here.
I'm checking about it now.
Not from overseas, for someone who is already living here and have visa.
Of course they have some requirements.

Anyway, Thank you so much for taking your time!
I really appreciate you!
And I'm very sorry for I maybe misunderstood you. I'm apologies you.


Are there good jobs in Japan for people who are not coming for education ?

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Eaztzide: 9:08am On Aug 31, 2022
Chicastle:
Here delsu means Delta state university
Desu is pronounced deh-ss not deh-suu. The many wonders of Japanese language. Right LienwaltAbel

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by AfahaAbia(m): 9:12am On Aug 31, 2022
You're very correct. I had a culture shock when I went there. Very nice country,great food, beautiful ladies (who like staring alot especially if you're black). Their studio apartments are very nice although very small(everything is automated). But u see the language wahala, that is the main problem.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by LienwaltAbel(m): 9:20am On Aug 31, 2022
rainlover:
It will be difficult to learn Japanese language in 6 months grin
grin throw that dream away my man. You've got to learn for about five years.
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by LienwaltAbel(m): 9:22am On Aug 31, 2022
AfahaAbia:
You're very correct. I had a culture shock when I went there. Very nice country,great food, beautiful ladies ( who like staring alot especially if you're black) . Their studio apartments are very nice although very small(everything is automated). But u see the language wahala, that is the main problem.
All Asians do that. However we Africans do the same too because of how fascinating it is to see a foreigner you've never seen with different hair and skin.

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Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by Nobody: 9:23am On Aug 31, 2022
LienwaltAbel:
TL; DR : Forget about japaing to Japan if you can't devote tons of hours of your time to learning how to read, write and speak Japanese. kiss

Now the Japanese speak only Japanese. Well, this doesn't seem like much, but it is much. You have to learn Japanese to be able to have day to day conversations with people, read billboards and signs, and most importantly: get a job or even school there. Japanese in Japan is as essential as water. So what do you do. You can change your dream country probably to New Zealand, Australia or whatever English speaking country you love or you could sit down and learn this piece of shite of a language.

Japanese is easy to speak. Within a month (of dedicated learning) you'd be quite comfortable with it. Just like me. Ohaiyō gozaimasu, Watashi wa Eiberu desu. This means Good morning, I am Abel. Note that I changed the spelling of my name because the Japanese usually change English names to suit their tongue.

Since it seems so easy, why am I making it look hard? Number one, Japanese don't use the Latin alphabet at all. So that crap I wrote up there is shit. Number two, the writing system of the Japanese is extremely difficult to master.

Japanese has two writing systems: kana and Kanji. Kana is further divided into hiragana and katakana while kanji is just kanji. Kana is easy as it is very close to the alphabet system of writing and is kind of constant (what you read is what you pronounce) but kanji on the other hand is just silly.

Kanji was directly copied from the Chinese hanzhi system centuries ago before kana was made by a Japanese Buddhist monk. İt is like the Egyptian hieroglyphics, but instead of having nice beautiful wholesome drawings, you have some ugly set of characters that require you to decrypt their meanings. The worst thing about kanji is not even how silly and unrelated the characters are to their meanings most of the time, the worst thing about it is it's unbelievable size. This piece of shite of a system has over 5000 characters/radicals and hell even after learning the so-called 3000 or 2500 average, you'd still meet a new one one day. Oh and I forgot to mention another annoying shit about the kanji system: it's pronunciation when used in a word is hardly ever consistent. For example this character 日 is normally pronounced nichi, but in this word 日本 it becomes Nihon that is Japan. This looks easy but what about this 3日, it's pronunciation is now jitsu. grin you see, this is even worse than English's terrible spelling system.

Having said this, if you have two years to waste, you can waste it learning Japanese or you can learn something like German or Finnish and head to these countries (i think Finnish is easier). However, you could just go to an English speaking country and put the work aside.
thanks. But let me laugh. I m trying to japa but dont know where ll be more suitable
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by LienwaltAbel(m): 9:25am On Aug 31, 2022
Eaztzide:

Desu is pronounced deh-ss not deh-suu. The many wonders of Japanese language. Right LienwaltAbel
Yah that's true. But if a Japanese person speaks very slowly, they're more likely to pronounce it in full. This may change years from now because languages are usually mutated because of the laziness of it's speakers
.
Re: Notice To Those Who Wish To Live In Japan by LienwaltAbel(m): 9:28am On Aug 31, 2022
Mezigo:


The police really needs to do something about these "hentai" (perverts in English). Especially the ones I hear that harass women on trains.

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