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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:18pm On Sep 02, 2022
neztar:
a liverpool side plagued by injuries and the loss of mane
Lol, the Liverpool plaqued with injury and the loss of Mane won Newcastle that drew Man city. In fact, Fulham won both brighton and Brentford, two teams that won Man u with the latter making Ten Haag to change tactics because of the humiliating scores they dished man u.

But here you are denigrating Fulham and Crystal palace as if dem be walkover teams just because Arsenal won them.

Issorait sir!!!! grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neztar: 7:20pm On Sep 02, 2022
Karleb:
This was how you people said Guardiola does not like strikers but look at Haaland.

Is God not wonderful? undecided
Guardiola is a perfectionist. He wanted a strikerless fluid and mobile team but the board had other plans.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 7:23pm On Sep 02, 2022
neztar:
dont be surprised, fred makes the worldcup squad ahead of this guy
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:25pm On Sep 02, 2022
Oasis007, You don start to dey upload training pix again?grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neztar: 7:26pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:


The only goalkeepers that can displace Edersom from that Pep City is Manuel Neuer and Barcelona's Victor Valdez.

Even prime Casillas or Van Der Sar cannot displace him.

Not saying he's better but considering that Ederson fits into his system very well.
if i woze you slap. Valdez gini! Valdez that is a calamity in defence abi you no follow barca in the 2010s.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:30pm On Sep 02, 2022
Jodera:
Oasis007, You don start to dey upload training pix again?grin grin

grin

Morale don high again!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:32pm On Sep 02, 2022
MRTA7:
Arsenal are definitely a much more serious side than recent years. The only doubt I have is how they will manage the Europa League with premier league games. I think they might struggle with that. These first few games they have won Arsenal of previous years would not have won them. It's never easy consistently beating teams you should be beating.

Arsenal’s fixtures were very favorable and Arteta knew his squad well enough before the season kicked off.

If ETH had left Maguire and Shaw on the bench in the first two games, United could have had 100% perfect start too.

Arsenal played against bottom 10 teams of last season and 2 newly promoted(Fulham and Bournemouth). The best team they have played in that 5 game run is Leicester at the Emirates which United put away in a 2nd gear last night away from home.

I want to see Arsenal against a top 6 side before I am convinced they have turned a corner. Unless ETH gets his line up wrong, United should beat Arsenal convincingly on Sunday.

This overhyped Arsenal team will not beat Klopp’s Liverpool that ETH put away.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neztar: 7:34pm On Sep 02, 2022
Expert17:


Ter gini? Ederson is clear.

He's the calmest under pressure, his passes are better than some midfielders and also an excellent sweeper. Converting from a midfielder to GK helped him.

Ederson is error prone. He cannot be trusted
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:37pm On Sep 02, 2022
neztar:
Ederson is error prone. He cannot be trusted
Error prone in what sense? No keeper dead or alive can use his legs better than Ederson.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:38pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:


The only goalkeepers that can displace Edersom from that Pep City is Manuel Neuer and Barcelona's Victor Valdez.

Even prime Casillas or Van Der Sar cannot displace him.

Not saying he's better but considering that Ederson fits into his system very well.
Only Neuer will replace Ederson.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:39pm On Sep 02, 2022
neztar:
if i woze you slap. Valdez gini! Valdez that is a calamity in defence abi you no follow barca in the 2010s.

There's no GK dead or alive that knew how to play the ball like Valdez, and this is not a debate. The only GK that came close was Neuer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:39pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Only Neuer will replace Ederson.

Valdez will, and easily too.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:39pm On Sep 02, 2022
Illimitable:


Arsenal’s fixtures were very favorable and Arteta knew his squad well enough before the season kicked off.

If ETH had left Maguire and Shaw on the bench in the first two games, United could have had 100% perfect start too.

Arsenal played against bottom 10 teams of last season and 2 newly promoted(Fulham and Bournemouth). The best team they have played in that 5 game run is Leicester at the Emirates which United put away in a 2nd gear last night away from home.

I want to see Arsenal against a top 6 side before I am convinced they have turned a corner. Unless ETH gets his line up wrong, United should beat Arsenal convincingly on Sunday.

This overhype Arsenal team will not beat Klopp’s Liverpool that ETH put away.
What do you mean by unless he gets his lineup wrong? You’ve planted an escape route already, in case you get the L.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:40pm On Sep 02, 2022
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neztar:
stop watching five minutes highlights, you won't hear.

Alright.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:41pm On Sep 02, 2022
Karleb:
Make una stop the debate, Allison would start ahead of Ederson anyday.

If Allison signs for City today, Ederson is chopping bench straight up.
Actually, City signed Ederson when Allison was still available. Allison is better at reflexes and with his hands but that is about it. He is not near Ederson with his legs. It just depends on what the manager prioritizes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:42pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:


Valdez will, and easily too.
Not at all. Valdez is very good at 1 v 1 but he is more error prone than Ederson and is not near Ederson with his legs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:44pm On Sep 02, 2022
kokaneprodigy:

What do you mean by unless he gets his lineup wrong? You’ve planted an escape route already, in case you get the L.
grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:46pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:


There's no GK dead or alive that knew how to play the ball like Valdez, and this is not a debate. The only GK that came close was Neuer.
Neuer is not even as good as Ederson with his legs. It is just that Neuer is so good at his reflex, strength, anticipation and then his legs are decent that overall he is just the best choice.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:46pm On Sep 02, 2022
kokaneprodigy:

What do you mean by unless he gets his lineup wrong? You’ve planted an escape route already, in case you get the L.

There’s no escape route.

ETH doesn’t know his team yet. He’s only been at the job few seconds ago. We might yet see Maguire on Sunday out of pity and that would have consequences.

If ETH plays his strongest team, Arsenal would die on Sunday. They died last season at OT with a useless United team. Arsenal rarely do well at United.

You could count how many times they have won in PL games at OT. Arsenal fans would make excuses that their recent injury and maybe a poor refereeing decision caused them the loss.

Even their greatest teams come to OT to suicide themselves. I am not scared of Arsenal. Newcastle scare me more than Arsenal FC.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:46pm On Sep 02, 2022
neztar:
Ederson is error prone. He cannot be trusted

Ederson and error-prone in the same sentence cheesy grin

Despite his risky style, if we count his mistakes @ City, it won't be up to 5.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:47pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Not at all. Valdez is very good at 1 v 1 but he is more error prone than Ederson and is not near Ederson with his legs.

Smiles. This is surely recency bias. You forget that Victor was one of the major pioneer goalkeepers that modernize this ball-playing GK and was pivotal for our ball playing game when Puyol was still bang average in that department.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:47pm On Sep 02, 2022
Expert17:


Ederson and error-prone in the same sentence cheesy grin

Despite his risky style, if we count his mistakes @ City, it won't be up to 5.

Ederson is a midfielder disguised as a keeper.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:48pm On Sep 02, 2022
Expert17:


Ederson and error-prone in the same sentence cheesy grin

Despite his risky style, if we count his mistakes @ City, it won't be up to 5.


He has 6 errors leading to a goal and he’s conceded 3 penalties in his PL career. Pep’s style of play protects Ederson. They hug possession 70-80% of the time. It’s difficult to expose Ederson to mistakes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:49pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:


Smiles. This is surely recency bias. You forget that Victor was one of the major pioneer goalkeepers that modernize this ball-playing GK and was pivotal for our ball playing game when Puyol was still bang average in that department.
Valdez is good. I am not saying he is not. I am saying Ederson's range exceeds his. The cross-bar challenge that teams do, Ederson and KdB always win it at City. Ederson wins over Rodri, Bernardo etc. That should tell you something.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:50pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Neuer is not even as good as Ederson with his legs. It is just that Neuer is so good at his reflex, strength, anticipation and then his legs are decent that overall he is just the best choice.


Noooo. This is very wrong. Very very wrong.

Neuer is goated in that department. In fact, he was practically a deep playing (4) (jokes) but he was very good. Only reason we are having this conversation is because Neuer was eqailly a very fine shot stopper that Ederson isn't.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:50pm On Sep 02, 2022
Illimitable:


He has 6 errors leading to a goal and he’s conceded 3 penalties in his PL career. Pep’s style of play protects Ederson. They hug possession 70-80% of the time. It’s difficult to expose Ederson to mistakes.
The errors being referred to are with his legs. He has almost zero if any.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:52pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Ederson is a midfielder disguised as a keeper.

Yeah, he was converted to a GK.

Android22:
Only Neuer will replace Ederson.

Neuer is better in sweeping and goalkeeping generally, but you see that playing from the back, Ederson is still clear.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:52pm On Sep 02, 2022
FirstbornWds:



Noooo. This is very wrong. Very very wrong.

Neuer is goated in that department. In fact, he was practically a deep playing (4) (jokes) but he was very good. Only reason we are having this conversation is because Neuer was eqailly a very fine shot stopper that Ederson isn't.
hahaha. Ederson is the record-holder. I mean, Guinness world record holder for his range of passes for a keeper. Pep even said he noticed Ederson when Bayern played Benfica years back. Ederson's anticipation and reflexes are average which is why he was only 35M.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:52pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Valdez is good. I am not saying he is not. I am saying Ederson's range exceeds his. The cross-bar challenge that teams do, Ederson and KdB always win it at City. Ederson wins over Rodri, Bernardo etc. That should tell you something.

I am not downplaying Ederson at all. But you see that challenge is just one of those things that recently came into training module and Valdez most likely even involve then. Ederson might have fallen down the radar if he played in the era where Xavi and Iniesta were pass/long ball demons
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android22: 7:53pm On Sep 02, 2022
Expert17:


Yeah, he was converted to a GK.



Neuer is better in sweeping and goalkeeping generally, but you see that playing from the back, Ederson is still clear.
Neuer is the better keeper no arguments but when it comes to using their legs to kick the ball, Neuer is not at Ederson's level.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neztar: 7:53pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
Error prone in what sense? No keeper dead or alive can use his legs better than Ederson.
go and watch Liverpool Mancity 4-3 thriller three seasons ago
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FirstbornWds: 7:54pm On Sep 02, 2022
Android22:
hahaha. Ederson is the record-holder. I mean, Guinness world record holder for his range of passes for a keeper. Pep even said he noticed Ederson when Bayern played Benfica years back. Ederson's anticipation and reflexes are average which is why he was only 35M

I know Ederson has a world record. But the distribution of Neuer and that too, in a time when forwards were brutal and bullies, is one heck of thing to be jealous about.

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