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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:34am On Sep 04, 2022
Kilishihunter:

You also saw where I typed sometimes , The real Madrid game last season and recent rayo bashing made us employ free flowing possession and control reminiscent of pep
Anyways I don't need xavi to be like pep, if he finds his own system that makes us win most of the time and give us trophies it's all good
klopp's Liverpool also dominated real Madrid last season in the UCL final.
Xavi's idea of football is a direct, counter attacking style, focusing on creativity from the wings, very similar to klopp's setup.

You'll see a different pedri and Gavi for Spain under lucho.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:38am On Sep 04, 2022
Bimmarlykay:
When we signed this guy i was happy you know,even asked my city friends about him they said "you will enjoy him he is a great player"(Maybe this was why i hated him more)with high expectation and signing.

Then i watched his first game for us not too impressive perhaps he needs time to gel in.But as week swept by he's flaws started becoming apparent ..to me he is only good at making ghost runs and finding himself in good areas.

I was disappointed he was even being compared here to Depay...i even remember telling a culee that he wont improve rather he will decline down the ranks and gave them examples of new signings with potentials to improve/work-on. Gosh epistle again on this case am done.Thank God they are seeing the light now.




I remember how jp & firstborn tackle debroslink...they said he hate ferran & want him to fail.

We neva pay City finish ooo... if barca put dis guy 4 sale now no club go pay reach 20m tbh.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 10:43am On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
Ruben neves and moutinho aren't there because Santos doesn't care about technicality, don't you get the point?!
Santos' prefers a dynamic and physical midfield over technique and control (just like when klopp has wijnaldum, Henderson and fabinho in midfield). it's why Renato always has game time and flourishes for Portugal.
Portugal's play is a passive one that dwell on quick transitions. Bernardo plays as an inverted winger, that's why he drifts to the middle to create clear cut chances and leave room for cancelo create width in attack. He doesn't play as a controller.
Moutinho was a key member in his 2016 euro winning squad that's why I typed recently , The way you are hammering on inverted winger, inverted winger as if Silva doesn't play multiple roles even a false 9, when I said he plays 6 you said it's false, Oga please go and watch Belgium vs Portugal Euros Round of 16 and see how the passive Santos become active to deploy Silva with gaining control of the midfield to find an equalizer even if I don't watch Portugal as much as you do Also can't a controller be creative, Xavi did that for us in 2008/2009, even also moving close to the wings sometimes and gave more than 20 assists in all comps though some were closed play, Silva might be an inverted AM or even a false 9 which he did but if he came to our midfield he'll be our major controller cause he while pedri will be the advanced playmaker
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:58am On Sep 04, 2022
Kilishihunter:

Moutinho was a key member in his 2016 euro winning squad that's why I typed recently , The way you are hammering on inverted winger, inverted winger as if Silva doesn't play multiple roles even a false 9, when I said he plays 6 you said it's false, Oga please go and watch Belgium vs Portugal Euros Round of 16 and see how the passive Santos become active to deploy Silva with gaining control of the midfield to find an equalizer even if I don't watch Portugal as much as you do Also can't a controller be creative, Xavi did that for us in 2008/2009, even also moving close to the wings sometimes and gave more than 20 assists in all comps though some were closed play, Silva might be an inverted AM or even a false 9 which he did but if he came to our midfield he'll be our major controller cause he while pedri will be the advanced playmaker
Omo I'm done here.
you don't even know how a controller functions, it's why you've been arguing nonsense pointlessly.
How can you say Bernardo is a controller?
Yes all controllers can be creative but not all creative midfielders can be controllers.

Bernardo, Ozil, de bruyne, Eriksen, Bruno, are creative midfielders, but they are not controllers, Bernardo is even a psuedo midfielder.

Controllers are the Xavis, iniestas, pirlos, modrics, Kroos, pogbas, thiagos, verrattis, FDJs etc.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 10:59am On Sep 04, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:





I remember how jp & firstborn tackle debroslink...they said he hate ferran & want him to fail.

We neva pay City finish ooo... if barca put dis guy 4 sale now no club go pay reach 20m tbh.

Yes he didn't play well yesterday but I still believe he's not a wasted investment.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 11:00am On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
klopp's Liverpool also dominated real Madrid last season in the UCL final.
Xavi's idea of football is a direct, counter attacking style, focusing on creativity from the wings, very similar to klopp's setup.

You'll see a different pedri and Gavi for Spain under lucho.
Liverpool play to dominate the game with pressure and fast transitions through mainly the FBs before the wingers sef not counter attack
And Xavi is also not a counter attacking coach, 2 or 3 games with us being under pressure while away won't change that, We have dominated games even against solid teams with possession last season too
Even though it's not fully relevant, Did you check out any of xavi's games at Al sadd to come to the conclusion he's a counter attacking based coach?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 11:04am On Sep 04, 2022
Kilishihunter:

Liverpool play to dominate the game with pressure and fast transitions through mainly the FBs before the wingers sef not counter attack
And Xavi is also not a counter attacking coach, 2 or 3 games with us being under pressure while away won't change that, We have dominated games even against solid teams with possession last season too
Even though it's not fully relevant, Did you check out any of xavi's games at Al sadd to come to the conclusion he's a counter attacking based coach?
al sadd is like the Bayern and PSG of that league. They are by far the strongest and they have the best players, you should expect to dominate against inferior rivals, cuz they'll always sit back and play on a low block.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 11:06am On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
Omo I'm done here.
you don't even know how a controller functions, it's why you've been arguing nonsense pointlessly.
How can you say Bernardo is a controller?
Yes all controllers can be creative but not all creative midfielders can be controllers.

Bernardo, Ozil, de bruyne, Eriksen, Bruno, are creative midfielders, but they are not controllers, Bernardo is even a psuedo midfielder.

Controllers are the Xavis, iniestas, pirlos, modrics, Kroos, pogbas, thiagos, verrattis, FDJs etc.
You call iniesta a controller but Bernado can't be termed a controller cause you watched him playing on the wings most times at City? Lol, Even modric is more of a creative midfielder than a controller, Bernado Silva is firstly a AM but he is still versatile enough to be a regista and controller in midfield, This is exactly why I asked you to watch portugal's Euros 2021 round of 16 tie against Belgium and city's semi final 2nd leg loss against Vardrid
I'm also done here, I can't be repeating the same thing over and over again
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:12am On Sep 04, 2022
jpmoriarti:
Yes he didn't play well yesterday but I still believe he's not a wasted investment.



But firstborn don dey call 4 a january loan move to a struggling team 4 a player whose off the ball movement is worldclass....ooh una reach dis decision based on his performance last night?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 11:20am On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
al sadd is like the Bayern and PSG of that league. They are by far the strongest and they have the best players, you should expect to dominate against inferior rivals, cuz they'll always sit back and play on a low block.
In his 2 years there, he won the league just once, he finished third in his first season, The QSL has other good teams but that ain't my emphasis, it was his style of play which made many Culers to ask for his appointment even when they were more experienced candidates, , If Xavi's a counterattacking coach he'll probably have been sacked now with the pool of players he had last season, How many teams in la liga even in Europe employ the highline we utilize?
What I want you to know if whether we have the best or worst squad we will still have to be content with being second best and grabbing the three points at some grounds, Even pep was bossed by his former assistant arteta with a weaker squad before they got a red card last season, Stlyes of play and tactics contrast alongside the players on ground so it's left to him on how to figure them out and work around it, The likes of Conte, ancelloti that specialize in counterattacking even control games when they meet an opposition midfield they can handle
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Taguchi: 11:51am On Sep 04, 2022
[b]Xavi Hernández: "We played a very good match, we possessed and had chances to improve the result. Winning at a complex ground is a positive sign."

Xavi: "We didn't start well in the first 15 minutes, but then, as soon as we settled in, we dominated the game and had chances to score more goals. This victory is a good sign, we're in a good moment."

Xavi: "Gavi does not surprise me, I follow him every day in training. I don't want to be unfair with the rest, but maybe he was the best in the match."

Xavi: "We didn't expect the 4-4-2 in a diamond that they proposed, but Sergio, Pedri and Gavi have been very good, they have worked hard and the wingers have been very supportive."

Xavi: "Dembélé is a player that I like a lot, with a good attitude, but who also works in defense and is supportive, like Raphinha and Robert, who are also helping a lot. We have players to make a difference and Ousmane is one of them."

Xavi: "We love the positional game, but we have players to take advantage of the quick transition as well, so I also ask to take advantage of those opportunities that the game gives you. It's not what I feel most comfortable with, I prefer positional play."

Xavi: "Lewandowski isn't just about scoring goals, he always picks the best option too. He's a spectacular reference... He's a fantastic player."

Xavi: "Koundé as a full-back? We'll see. Bellerín has come, we have Sergi Roberto, who has played very well in all the games..."

Xavi: "Ter Stegen is in a great moment, the defensive line is too... There are very positive things and you won 0-3 at Pizjuán, something that not many clubs are going to achieve..."

Xavi: "We're definitely wrong if we reduce La Liga to Barça-Madrid. It hasn't been easy to win here, we've been as effective as we were in San Sebastian, but it's not easy to win."

Xavi: "The victory gives you confidence, but we have to continue. The Champions League begins on Wednesday, that doesn't stop and it's important to have the whole team connected."

Xavi: "We have a lot of power upfront, so we know that keeping clean sheets is crucial. Ter Stegen has been spectacular, as well as the whole defensive line."

Xavi: "Last week I was telling you how we need to improve on set pieces. And today, we scored from one. Little by little we are improving on every aspect, and we have to continue in this positive way."[/b]
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Adiwana: 12:23pm On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
Omo I'm done here.
you don't even know how a controller functions, it's why you've been arguing nonsense pointlessly.
How can you say Bernardo is a controller?
Yes all controllers can be creative but not all creative midfielders can be controllers.

Bernardo, Ozil, de bruyne, Eriksen, Bruno, are creative midfielders, but they are not controllers, Bernardo is even a psuedo midfielder.

Controllers are the Xavis, iniestas, pirlos, modrics, Kroos, pogbas, thiagos, verrattis, FDJs etc.

Pogba and Veratti are hardly controllers. They don’t dictate the tempo of games they play. Pogba feeds into that space where players like Kante, Pirlo, Marchisio do majority of the work for him and he has free license to do whatever he wants and Veratti on the other hand is like Gavi. Mainly tasked with ball winning in the team.

Bernardo on the other hand is a game controller. As someone already said, Bernardo is too versatile, so he hardly plays that position where he controls the game. But whenever he plays that CM/CAM role, he helps to dictate things. That’s why I personally wanted him

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:28pm On Sep 04, 2022
They only score goals in the Bundesliga wink

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 1:03pm On Sep 04, 2022
Adiwana:


Pogba and Veratti are hardly controllers. They don’t dictate the tempo of games they play. Pogba feeds into that space where players like Kante, Pirlo, Marchisio do majority of the work for him and he has free license to do whatever he wants and Veratti on the other hand is like Gavi. Mainly tasked with ball winning in the team.

Bernardo on the other hand is a game controller. As someone already said, Bernardo is too versatile, so he hardly plays that position where he controls the game. But whenever he plays that CM/CAM role, he helps to dictate things. That’s why I personally wanted him
@ emboldened, you lost me here, didn't even bother to read the rest part of your write up cheesy

If verratti was tasked with winning balls what role was paredes and gueye tasked with? Controlling the midfield? Lmao cheesy

Go and sit down abeg.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Adiwana: 1:19pm On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
@ emboldened, you lost me here, didn't even bother to read the rest part of your write up cheesy

If verratti was tasked with winning balls what role was paredes and gueye tasked with? Controlling the midfield? Lmao cheesy

Go and sit down abeg.

What’s Veratti’s job in Italy? To spread 50 yard passes abi?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 1:25pm On Sep 04, 2022
Adiwana:


What’s Veratti’s job in Italy? To spread 50 yard passes abi?
the fact that verratti has that ability to challenge for tackles and win balls doesn't mean it's his primary role. It's just a facet of his game. Verrati has always been tasked with controlling the tempo of the midfield, he can also function as a deep lying playmaker and b 2 b midfielder

For PSG, paredes and gueye provided defensive cover while for italy, locatelli does the dirty work.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 1:38pm On Sep 04, 2022
Culer:
the fact that verratti has that ability to challenge for tackles and win balls doesn't mean it's his primary role. It's just a facet of his game. Verrati has always been tasked with controlling the tempo of the midfield, he can also function as a deep lying playmaker and b 2 b midfielder

For PSG, paredes and gueye provided defensive cover while for italy, locatelli does the dirty work.
Bro paredes is not that great defensively, he's more of a deep lying playmaker, veratti does more tackling and ball winning than him there only third to Gueye and Danilo Pereira since wijnaldum didn't play much games last season
Also locatelli is the same DLP he's like Jorginho, Veratti and barella put in more dirty shifts and work rate than him, The comparison with gavi are not far off at all, Infact we once compared them both here last season
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 1:43pm On Sep 04, 2022
Adiwana:


Pogba and Veratti are hardly controllers. They don’t dictate the tempo of games they play. Pogba feeds into that space where players like Kante, Pirlo, Marchisio do majority of the work for him and he has free license to do whatever he wants and Veratti on the other hand is like Gavi. Mainly tasked with ball winning in the team.

Bernardo on the other hand is a game controller. As someone already said, Bernardo is too versatile, so he hardly plays that position where he controls the game. But whenever he plays that CM/CAM role, he helps to dictate things. That’s why I personally wanted him
Bernado can start as a 8 move to a 11 role, come back to be a 6 when the rodri strays too forward and still end the game as a 10, That dude is super versatile, Him coming will have moved our midfield to the next level, though our own pedri is gradually easing into a controller role too, That kid too is versatile but Xavi's task of him scoring more goals has made him drift more often than not, But He's still the best midfielder of course with the highest level of "pausa" followed by FDJ
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by oliverano: 2:17pm On Sep 04, 2022
Kilishihunter:

Moutinho was a key member in his 2016 euro winning squad that's why I typed recently , The way you are hammering on inverted winger, inverted winger as if Silva doesn't play multiple roles even a false 9, when I said he plays 6 you said it's false, Oga please go and watch Belgium vs Portugal Euros Round of 16 and see how the passive Santos become active to deploy Silva with gaining control of the midfield to find an equalizer even if I don't watch Portugal as much as you do Also can't a controller be creative, Xavi did that for us in 2008/2009, even also moving close to the wings sometimes and gave more than 20 assists in all comps though some were closed play, Silva might be an inverted AM or even a false 9 which he did but if he came to our midfield he'll be our major controller cause he while pedri will be the advanced playmaker

Bernardo was a winger/AM at Monaco. When he joined city, Pep played him in multiple positions including F9. It annoyed Silva so much that there were rumours that he wanted out.

However, when David Silva left, Pep turned Bernardo to a complete midfiled controller, making use of his low center of gravity, dribbling skills, speed, passing and pausa to really control and dominate games.

Infact, last season, Bernardo played so deep that Rodri was seen further forward which resulted in many goals for Rodri who is a DM.

This season, Pep is again switching Bernardo, sometimes to the right wing, and sometimes in the middle to play with Rodri.

Silva is a confirm midfield controller. Very few midfielders in the world right now understand space, timing and positioning like him. The closest interms of pure midfield control are may be Veratti, Kimmich and Pedri.

He was a winger/Am in the past . But as we speak, he's a controller, a proper one at that.

You can't argue this if you watch Silva and City regularly. Forget what the Portuguese Grenort Rohr is doing with that talented Portuguese team.

I'm not quoting the wrong person, I just don't wanna bother culler. He has his point and that's his personal opinion.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Oldboss(m): 2:34pm On Sep 04, 2022
jpmoriarti:
I quite agree with you. Busquets may not have the muscle again to lead us against a top team.

He only plays well when the whole team is playing well. He can no longer lead the team in time of adversity.
I just hope to see pjanic at some point these season
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 2:43pm On Sep 04, 2022
oliverano:


Bernardo was a winger/AM at Monaco. When he joined city, Pep played him in multiple positions including F9. It annoyed Silva so much that there were rumours that he wanted out.

However, when David Silva left, Pep turned Bernardo to a complete midfiled controller, making use of his low center of gravity, dribbling skills, speed, passing and pausa to really control and dominate games.

Infact, last season, Bernardo played so deep that Rodri was seen further forward which resulted in many goals for Rodri who is a DM.

This season, Pep is again switching Bernardo, sometimes to the right wing, and sometimes in the middle to play with Rodri.

Silva is a confirm midfield controller. Very few midfielders in the world right now understand space, timing and positioning like him. The closest interms of pure midfield control are may be Veratti, Kimmich and Pedri.

He was a winger/Am in the past . But as we speak, he's a controller, a proper one at that.

You can't argue this if you watch Silva and City regularly. Forget what the Portuguese Grenort Rohr is doing with that talented Portuguese team.

I'm not quoting the wrong person, I just don't wanna bother culler. He has his point and that's his personal opinion.
Chief that's the thing he's too versatile, A freakin Jack of all trades cause of pep now, In their UCL semi loss KDB was taken off towards the end for for being off colour, Who was the midfield left to? Bernado Silva, What I saw in the next few minutes were some of the best midfield control I've ever seen plus his role in the buildup to mahrez's goal before the real Madrid turnaround, He's really underrated prob cause of KDB outshining him
Culler has a great knowledge of football, he was spot on about the Portuguese Gernot Rohr's bland tactics but I was honestly surprised to see him type Silva isn't a controller, one who's even the very best at that despite him being seen at the RW/RM severally
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Mhistaedie01(m): 3:43pm On Sep 04, 2022
Bro I was like damn... The same bernado that played some matches as deep as rodri or sometimes deeper especially if gundogan is not playing. People really need to watch matches with understanding
oliverano:


Bernardo was a winger/AM at Monaco. When he joined city, Pep played him in multiple positions including F9. It annoyed Silva so much that there were rumours that he wanted out.

However, when David Silva left, Pep turned Bernardo to a complete midfiled controller, making use of his low center of gravity, dribbling skills, speed, passing and pausa to really control and dominate games.

Infact, last season, Bernardo played so deep that Rodri was seen further forward which resulted in many goals for Rodri who is a DM.

This season, Pep is again switching Bernardo, sometimes to the right wing, and sometimes in the middle to play with Rodri.

Silva is a confirm midfield controller. Very few midfielders in the world right now understand space, timing and positioning like him. The closest interms of pure midfield control are may be Veratti, Kimmich and Pedri.

He was a winger/Am in the past . But as we speak, he's a controller, a proper one at that.

You can't argue this if you watch Silva and City regularly. Forget what the Portuguese Grenort Rohr is doing with that talented Portuguese team.

I'm not quoting the wrong person, I just don't wanna bother culler. He has his point and that's his personal opinion.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by oliverano: 4:27pm On Sep 04, 2022
Mhistaedie01:
Bro I was like damn... The same bernado that played some matches as deep as rodri or sometimes deeper especially if gundogan is not playing. People really need to watch matches with understanding


Yeah, B.Silva is a complete midfield controller!!!

He'll fit Barca like duck to water.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Oldboss(m): 4:33pm On Sep 04, 2022
Mhistaedie01:
I really wish the team doesn't fear Bayern as much as our fans do. Like seriously we don't even have to dominate to beat Bayern. Just finish and defend well
am not afraid but if we lose the battle of the midfield we will suffer if their defense is solid that day
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 4:53pm On Sep 04, 2022
abduleez1:


Lol, you don forget as I take dey defend that guy last season.

Even movement wey him dey gimme last season sef I no dey see am again.

grin grin

How did barca spend 55 million euros with 10 million euros add-ons?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 4:57pm On Sep 04, 2022
jpmoriarti:
They only score goals in the Bundesliga wink

These men are complete goalscorers anywhere, anyday... cool
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ghettokid1(m): 9:28pm On Sep 04, 2022
Nico Gonzalez scores a wonderful header for Valencia
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:40pm On Sep 04, 2022
jpmoriarti:
They only score goals in the Bundesliga wink





One shekpite say na Burndisleaguedown..

After d community shield match against liverpool...dey said haaland will fail in d epl...


Nobody doubted LEWA's capability....madrid fans dey vex 4 benzema wen he gave a penalty to Hazard. dey talk say he knw no say LEWA don join barca..
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Mhistaedie01(m): 9:53pm On Sep 04, 2022
Their defense can't be solid with upamecano.
Oldboss:
am not afraid but if we lose the battle of the midfield we will suffer if their defense is solid that day
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:21pm On Sep 04, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:




But firstborn don dey call 4 a january loan move to a struggling team 4 a player whose off the ball movement is worldclass....ooh una reach dis decision based on his performance last night?


Lol. I think he has lost motivation and the movements and additional play I loved about him is no longer there ( didn't see it in the last matches played)... So u think the competition is beginning to get to him.

Asking him to go on loan is to help him regain confidence. Not because I have lost hope in him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by andrewbaba44: 10:25pm On Sep 04, 2022
OkpaNsukkaisBae:






One shekpite say na Burndisleaguedown..

After d community shield match against liverpool...dey said haaland will fail in d epl...


Nobody doubted LEWA's capability....madrid fans dey vex 4 benzema wen he gave a penalty to Hazard. dey talk say he knw no say LEWA don join barca..

Epl fan boys are arrogant and they talk too much ,reason why I love to banter them

Bayern was winning teams with huge score line and they kept calling the e league farmers league ,that their teams are weak

Liverpool win Bournemouth and dem call am entertainment football

I just love the fact that Haaland is stat padding their league

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