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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by Sergio104(m): 8:37am On Sep 04, 2022
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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by NaijaRoyalty(m): 8:53am On Sep 04, 2022
soke02:
u are no longer calling for Biafra because Peter Obi is contesting for president.
stop talking nonsense , I've never talked about Biafra before

You and your people are the people fighting for Yoruba nation
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:10am On Sep 04, 2022
Alexmani:
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Sometimes you guys reason with emptiness, If someone is talking about power shift to the south, it should be SE. If you're judging from party angles, then don't blame PDP for fielding Atiku because their last president was from the south. If talk about discriminating, talk about SE. This country needs diversity management to keep sailing. Youruba has been the vice president and yet you are fighting for BAT to be the president. What happens to the other part of the south? If you're sincere, you could imagine why igbos are agitating? To be all these issues are avoidable if we have leaders willing to on board everyone regardless of your background. My humble opinion.
quote author=ImperialYoruba post=116335488]I admire Prof Akintoye, that's a brilliant step to take. While we process through partisan politics and remain solidly behind Tinubu and APC, we still have the right to demand for and uphold justice for our contributions to Nigeria in terms of returns & privileges. We feel cheated, and we must correct that.

If there's no fairness and equity, is it not better to allow each region go its separate way then? Every region is using what it has to negotiate for separation or regionalism is all I can see here. Can SE also use what it has to negotiate?
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:12am On Sep 04, 2022
NaijaRoyalty:
stop talking nonsense , I've never talked about Biafra before

You and your people are the people fighting for Yoruba nation

Are you scared of regionalism or being on your own? I'll advise that we all begin to prepare for which ever of these two that may eventually happen.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:18am On Sep 04, 2022
olisaEze:
The SW should be the last group in Nigeria to ever ask for a secession! If any one tribe has enjoyed the proceeds of democracy more than any other tribe in this nation, it is the SW.

Whatever hardship the good prof is talking about can be directed to the doorpost of their son the Vice President and his aged father Yekini A. Ogunlere! grin

Give us an example of a relatively peaceful and advanced country that is structurally ruled the way Nigeria is - USA, Germany, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.? Why was Zik against having a secession clause in the constitution and why did Ironsi collapse the regional structure given to us by the colonial masters? What was and is their fear?

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:20am On Sep 04, 2022
NaijaRoyalty:

What makes you different from IPob?

Nigeria is one and will not divide

Support Peter Obi for a better Nigeria for all


And if PGO does not win, what happens? Go back to the trenches?
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:22am On Sep 04, 2022
2elliot:
Don't be an slowpoke. There is a reason why south west is relatively peaceful, even despite your agitations. The federal govt no reason una matter reach 1% sef. If the federal govt had killed unharmed Oduduwa protesters continuously as they did ipob, you wouldn't have remained cool. But they allowed you all do your protests in peace.

Does that tell you that the SW has gotten something more than the SE to bring to the negotiation table?
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:31am On Sep 04, 2022
Fejoku:
After Oluwo of Iwo, others have responded to the petition of Pa Akitoye to the terrorist government of Nigeria. All fingers are pointing towards the disintegration of Nigeria and it should be rightly so. We all know that the current government will not heed to the request. They have their own plan which is the sole conquest of the South and middle belt. Those who don't appreciate IPOB today will eventually do so very soon. We are the ones that understand them very well.
NB: Oluwo's outcry isn't based out of any sincerity for equity but out of greed. His veiled speaking for Southern Nigeria isn't based on equity but rather out of selfishness. We all know who he is referring to when using Southern Nigeria. He has equated the denial of a single person being a president to the quest for secession yet has been speaking against those calling for the same secession after they've been treated with disdain for more than half a century in a country they fought hard to help free.
Like I'll always say, e go reach everybody.

The Ibos wouldn't have needed to fight any war in 1967 if Zik had supported the secession clause proposed by Awo about 10 years earlier. Ironsi collapsing the regional structure made things worse. All Ojukwu would have done is to activate the secession clause in 1967 if Zik had earlier supported the idea. Besides, the quest by Adaka Boro to separate the minority group in old Eastern region should have been granted just the way Zik granted the separation of the old Midwest (currently Delta and Edo) from the old Western region.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:37am On Sep 04, 2022
Kasssandra:
Look closely, and you would see that the people behind the secession movement are either in PDP or supporting PDP.

When you are out of power, secession looks attractive. That's why Tinubu was saying things like..I don't believe in Nigeria unity...till he got into power.

I don't like secessionist and similar groups because they are not genuine. If many IPOB supporters suddenly became LP supporters, plus if many PDP supporters suddenly cried for Oodua republic when their party was out...and if Tinubu could be chanting restructuring when out of power...and now is a one Nigerianist when in power....

All in all, people want more and more of the national cake. Either way, Nigeria suffers.

Nigeria needs a leader who will remove subsides on power and petroleum, and widen the tax net. Now.

Keep looking for a leader you have never got since over 60 years of your creation. Wish you a happy search!

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:43am On Sep 04, 2022
relaxandsmile:
It will get heated in the coming days. Mark my words!You know why? Their candidate may not be getting the aspired support from the North. They have closed their media houses against any criticism of the Buhari Junta with the hope that they will get a smooth ride to the presidency. Now it is getting clearer that the people they seek for support only knows themselves and nothing else.
Southern unity would have made other region to be careful when dealing with Nigerians. But no, they will rather have infighting while they all suffer.

Southern unity will be achieved the day the South recognizes that we are culturally different and respect our natural boundaries. When you know the root cause of a problem, you are close to solving the problem. You cannot have a united southern front where a tribe keeps coveting the lands of other tribes and calling them "no man's lands". It won't work. You cannot erase the ancient land mark.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 9:57am On Sep 04, 2022
Kasssandra:


Because

1.It did not work

2.Minorities did not like it. Big tribes oppressed the smaller tribes.

3.None of the regions can live on their resources like they did in the 1960's...the populaiton has grown beyond that.

4.Regions were not as good as you think they were. Outside some parts of the cities, life was just as it is now. Even within the cities, life was harsh.

5.Most people want states, more states, not regions.


1) If you want states, then the states should be allowed to grant both residence and indigeneship status to those in the states. You cannot claim to be an indigene of a state if your forebears have no cultural relationship with the composite administrative divisions of that state as at 1914 when the amalgamation was done. The indigiounous status will be determined by the recognized traditional council of that state. The governor of the state reserves the right to grant or revoke the residence status of any person living in a state subject to the ratification of the state house of Assembly.

2) If you want regions, each region should be headed by a premier who should double as a VP to a ceremonial president. The governor of each state within a region will continue to meet and deliberate on the regional development of the region while the state functions as stated in (1) above.

Whichever way, the cultural and traditional identity of each state and region should be preserved and not allowed to be threatened or overrun by some marauders either expressly or implied. One thing you should know, however, is that the Yorubas will no longer be BALKANISED after some Yorubas have earlier been balkanised to Benin Republic, Ghana, Togo, Northern Nigeria and SS Nigeria.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by 2elliot: 11:03am On Sep 04, 2022
MDM2021:


Does that tell you that the SW has gotten something more than the SE to bring to the negotiation table?
What that tells me is that, the south west is the only willing tool that sabotages the disintegration of this failed country with the fulani. Mind you, it has nothing to do with them being sophisticated, unless you believe that Agonja was sophisticated too.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by olisaEze(m): 11:03am On Sep 04, 2022
MDM2021:


Give us an example of a relatively peaceful and advanced country that is structurally ruled the way Nigeria is - USA, Germany, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.? Why was Zik against having a secession clause in the constitution and why did Ironsi collapsed the regional structure given to us by the colonial masters? What was and is their fear?

So the issue isn’t hardship again and the late Zik is the reason why things are now hard in Nigeria! grin grin

Oga, every election cycle since '99 the SW always brings up secession, it’s how they have always negotiated for a stake in any incoming administration. grin
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by 07kjb: 11:21am On Sep 04, 2022
ImperialYoruba:


PDP did not field Atiku. Ibo delegates betrayed ibo and SS contestants at the primary.

Same in APC.

U are daft
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 11:23am On Sep 04, 2022
olisaEze:


So the issue isn’t hardship again and the late Zik is the reason why things are now hard in Nigeria! grin grin

Oga, every election cycle since '99 the SW always brings up secession, it’s how they have always negotiated for a stake in any incoming administration. grin

If you have been following history and can read between lines, you will understand that the SW's agitation for self determination or regional autonomy dated back to before Nigeria's independence. Awolowo's performance during the time the regions operated with a reasonable level of autonomy alluded to their desire for self-determination contrary to Zik's predisposition. That's another reason OBJ is never liked in the SW as much as Awo is. That's why OBJ was not voted by the SW in 1999. It was other Nigerians that brought OBJ to power in 1999, not the SW people. The SW people understand the Fulanis antecedents and other land usurpers across the Niger. The hardship has always been there, it's just being more pronounced in the last 7 years and that had been foreseen from a long time ago; hence, the quest for having the secession clause in the constitution.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 11:31am On Sep 04, 2022
2elliot:
What that tells me is that, the south west is the only willing tool that sabotages the disintegration of this failed country with the fulani. Mind you, it has nothing to do with them being sophisticated, unless you believe that Agonja was sophisticated too.

The WILLING TOOL can be found in the tribe that stood against the secession clause pre-independence and made doing so a treasonable felony thereby making it difficult for each region with its own cultural identity to peacefully exit the union. The WILLING TOOL can be found in the tribe that destroyed the regional structure so as to give its people a upper hand in governance. The WILLING TOOL can be found in the tribe that stood against late Adaka Boro's quest for the regional autonomy of the Niger Deltan's region. Meanwhile, if your region has gotten something to negotiate like the SW, be willing and free to bring it to the table.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by ImperialYoruba: 12:36pm On Sep 04, 2022
07kjb:


U are daft

I will show you who is daft. grin

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by Kagd10: 12:45pm On Sep 04, 2022
mycar:
Everyone wants a better nation and ipob is being castigated for that. if Nigeria was working, nobody would want to opt out, so why can't we go back to the regional government that we used to have?

No one had a problem with Ipob until you started to shook mouth into the affairs of those who didn't rule you or your papa.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by ImperialYoruba: 12:46pm On Sep 04, 2022
MDM2021:


If there's no fairness and equity, is it not better to allow each region go its separate way then? Every region is using what it has to negotiate for separation or regionalism is all I can see here. Can SE also use what it has to negotiate?

What SE has is violence and chaos. Barbarism!

West on the other hand uses orderliness, organization, process to increasingly break down the barriers in its path. Civilization!

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by mycar: 1:01pm On Sep 04, 2022
Kagd10:


No one had a problem with Ipob until you started to shook mouth into the affairs of those who didn't rule you or your papa.
What do you mean? Was that that supposed to be an insult it what, I hope I'm not into conversation with a lowlife?
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by Nobody: 1:19pm On Sep 04, 2022
MDM2021:


Keep looking for a leader you have never got since over 60 years of your creation. Wish you a happy search!

At the end,it is not about voting, it is also about participating

And yea, Obi tinubu atiku are the same. I am not voting for anyone of them. Keep being super upset about it. None of my business

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by johnmartus(m): 1:28pm On Sep 04, 2022
Lol we can't manage our diversity.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 1:36pm On Sep 04, 2022
johnmartus:
Lol we can't manage our diversity.

It's obvious.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by AntiBMC(m): 1:40pm On Sep 04, 2022
The ones against it are the likes of Tinubu. They are benefitting from the country staying one. Evil things that hv stolen the nation blind. When the secession happens, they can stay back in the Nigeria they love so much.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by Idiotseverywher: 1:45pm On Sep 04, 2022
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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 1:53pm On Sep 04, 2022
Kasssandra:


At the end,it is not about voting, it is also about participating

And yea, Obi tinubu atiku are the same. I am not voting for anyone of them. Keep being super upset about it. None of my business

I don't care whether you vote for any of them or not as it's apparent there's a little any of them can do with the current situation.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by Advocate500: 1:53pm On Sep 04, 2022
I for saw this,no tribe can endure what igboman have endured in Nigeria,yet they remain hopeful and resolute,is it tribalism, hatred by those in power, name it, even minority tribe challenge igboman for a squabble,yet it's doesn't deter igboman.


Yorubaman have been relatively peaceful with an hausa man because of what he intends to benefit at detriment of others,but it looks as if that relationship is not going to work again because of what is keeping them together is about to be taken away.

I know a day like this will come .

My Igbo brother's should neutral as event unfold or else they will use us to settle their difference as they normally do.

No be only Yoruba nation na,na Yoruba kingdom.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by butterfly777(m): 1:57pm On Sep 04, 2022
mycar:

If that's the case, why is Ipob been seen differently? I personally want united states of Nigeria, where every region is given the freedom to grow independently.
Who is seeing Ipob differently? Is it me?

I support the right of everyone for self actualization, Ipob Biafra included.
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 2:05pm On Sep 04, 2022
Advocate500:
I for saw this,no tribe can endure what igboman have endured in Nigeria,yet they remain hopeful and resolute,is it tribalism, hatred by those in power, name it, even minority tribe challenge igboman for a squabble,yet it's doesn't deter igboman.


Yorubaman have been relatively peaceful with an hausa man because of what he intends to benefit at detriment of others,but it looks as if that relationship is not going to work again because of what is keeping them together is about to be taken away.

I know a day like this will come .

My Igbo brother's should neutral as event unfold or else they will use us to settle their difference as they normally do.

No be only Yoruba nation na,na Yoruba kingdom.

There's nothing you foresaw that had not been foreseen by the Yorubas. What you saw in 1966 that led to the first military coup and in 1967 that led to the Civil War had been foreseen about 10 years before then by the Yorubas. They warned and told you to have a secession clause in the constitution but you rejected the idea for economic reasons and due to greed for other people's lands. When the Yorubas saw your opposition to the secession clause, they settled for another alternative that was available, though not the best one, which is a federal structure with regional autonomy. That structure barely lasted for 6 years when an Ibo man named Aguiyi Ironsi destroyed it. So, save us the crocodile's tears and the cat's sermon.

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by PROUDIGBO(m): 2:16pm On Sep 04, 2022
mycar:
Everyone wants a better nation and ipob is being castigated for that. if Nigeria was working, nobody would want to opt out, so why can't we go back to the regional government that we used to have?

We can’t!

The present status-quo and political-economy didn’t just happen like that! It’s the result of a decades long conscious effort to tilt everything in favour of the Fulani hegemony that hold sway today!

Asking for help from the face and physical representation of this hegemony, Buhari, to either change said status-quo and political-economy….or to oversee the disintegration of ‘one Nigeria’, is like asking a lion to give up a tasty meal of antelope meat! Impossicant as Zebby might say!

Does Akintoye actually think that if they allow the Yoruba to secede, Ndigbo would be looking on at proceedings without wanting to jakpa themselves!?
Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by ipobcannibals: 2:20pm On Sep 04, 2022
ImperialYoruba:


We use intelligence to understand the challenge in front of us, we use strategy to address and resolve the challenge, we use wisdom to document progress and build sustainability.

We are mot ipob because we do not use brute force and violent attacks fed by fabricated lies, propaganda, lies and deceits to address conflicts that can successfully be managed using dialogue.
You also failed to mention ‘we don’t eat our victims as suya like the Ipigs/ESN cannibals’ grin

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Re: S/west Secession Letter To Buhari Divides Yoruba Leaders by MDM2021: 2:21pm On Sep 04, 2022
PROUDIGBO:


We can’t!

The present status-quo and political-economy didn’t just happen like that! It’s the result of a decades long conscious effort to tilt everything in favour of the Fulani hegemony that hold sway today!

Asking for help from the face and physical representation of this hegemony, Buhari, to either change said status-quo and political-economy….or to oversee the disintegration of ‘one Nigeria’, is like asking a lion to give up a tasty meal of antelope meat! Impossicant as Zebby might say!

Does Akintoye actually think that if they allow the Yoruba to secede, Ndigbo would be looking on at proceedings without wanting to jakpa themselves!?

Are you saying Ceaser has crossed the Rubicon and Rome must prepare for its eventual fall?

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