Sammy07:


Yeah, you right.

Even tho their block votes are always for PDP. Let's see what will happen next year.i still see this race between PDP and apc.

Maybe apart from Lagos, I haven't seen any reasonable momentum for LP in SW

And I haven't also see any reasonable momentum for APC in SE.

Buh PDP is the only party tbag can still have at least 25% in all the states


I just wish we can return back to regional government. With 6 regions

This presidential no favour us at all

exactly PDP may still carry the day.
They really have the spread in all regions unlike tinubu that doesn't care about southeast and some part of South south votes.

Sammy07:


Oga i worked as INEC ad-hoc staff in the just concluded Osun election.

Forget about bvas Abeq. In a polling unit if they want all the registered voters to appear as accredited voters it's very possible.

Since the vIN alongside details is always posted.
To be able to vote, bvas requires you verify the person through VIN, or last name or Scan the bar code.

Then check the details, then the voters will thumbprint or you capture their face.

Oga, one person can register for 20 people so long he has their VIN

Cc: BluntCrazeMan
Forget about bvas been hard to Rig Abeq.
If they'll Rig, they'll rig

This is what I've been trying explain to guys here.cc fergie, kyase,agboriotejoye, pachukwudi

Sammy07:


Oga i worked as INEC ad-hoc staff in the just concluded Osun election.

Forget about bvas Abeq. In a polling unit if they want all the registered voters to appear as accredited voters it's very possible.

Since the vIN alongside details is always posted.
To be able to vote, bvas requires you verify the person through VIN, or last name or Scan the bar code.

This one is called “Voter Identification”
i.e, confirming that the voter information is in the database, and supposed to be at the required Polling-Unit..
Technically,, anyone can do this for up-to 100 people sef,, so far he knows their names, or that he has their cards.

Then check the details, then the voters will thumbprint or you capture their face.

But you see this one here?? Only one person can do it at a time.
It is called “Voter Authentication” which means, Voter Verification..
Thus, they can identify 470 voters,, but only 230 were verified (i.e, authenticated).
Then,, only 230 people would vote...
And not the identified 470..

Oga, one person can register for 20 people so long he has their VIN

I don't understand the REGISTER here...
INEC can detect double-registration through biometrics.

Cc: BluntCrazeMan
Forget about bvas been hard to Rig Abeq.
If they'll Rig, they'll rig

Like I would always say,, we keep watching them.
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Anambra people rushed to upload fake Results to the Portal.
The BVAS sold them out.
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How can you upload some accreditation values to the portal through the BVAS,, yet the same BVAS is having another figure as the captured accredited Voters??
You see the story now??
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Even at that,, the Online Results Portal is undergoing serious modifications..
Before 2023,, we are expecting more transparency with the system..
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You know,, the reason for the transparency is that if you feed any wrong figure into the system which didn't agree with what the system already automatically generated,, it would cause a lot of discrepancies..
And thus,, it's best to feed only the right values at all times.

Sammy07:



It is not %turnouts that matters but the marginal difference.

For example

If 500k turnouts in Ekiti
Apc - 400k
PDP - 80k
Lp - 20k

Now 1M turnouts in Anambra
Apc - 100k
PDP - 300k
Lp - 600k

Who has won?
Stop using percentages

you actually think APC will get over 10k votes in Anambra.

Who will give him that 100k votes.
U wish though... let me not discourage u.

garfield1:


This is what I've been trying explain to guys here.cc fer..gie, kya..se,agborio..tejoye, pach..ukwudi

In the bvas, the thumbprint and face capture don't read have meaningful fuction to me.
Cos, one person can register for than 10 people using either the same fingers or different fingers same as face capture.

In my polling unit, we gave the chance to the 2 parties to vote just for 3 people max cos time is not on our side. And it's because they begged us well, that's why we gave them chance
Because they complained that their voters card didn't come out Buh their names appears on the list of registered voters.

So we use their vins.

To me, it's the party agents that can still prevent rigging abit.
Else, in a polling unit, a party can make use of all the registered voters as their accredited voters meanwhile in real life, maybe only half of them voted. While others were voted in a 'crook means'.

oluwadabira111:
A.P.C will not do that big number in borno with the emergence of Bvas.... can bet anything for that.

You people banking on bvas don't understand anything. All they need to do is register underage voters and they will use that to their advantage. I was an ad-hoc staff and you will see kids under 18 with voters card, and will demand to vote. You dare not refuse. Na you be there mama ni?

Efewestern:


Udu, Uvwie and Warri will swing to Obi. Everyone and everybody I've met are fully Obidient but Urban areas alone can't decide winners. What goes on in those rural areas are mostly undocumented so we shouldn't easily write-off the influence of these major party.

Eggzactly rural and waterside areas will be heavily rigged by apc and pdp

garfield1:


This is what I've been trying explain to guys here.cc fergie, kyase,agboriotejoye, pachukwudi

Relax.
The BVAS is not that easy.
Anambra Election didn't use Manual Accreditation,, you know why??
Because Electronic Register was used.
And there was no where it was mandated in the Old Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) that Manual Register Must Be used.
The “Voter Register” was mentioned.
And this time, the Voter Register that was used was an Electronic Register...
And it allowed us to see the power of the BVAS

Sammy07:


In the bvas, the thumbprint and face capture don't read have meaningful fuction to me.
Cos, one person can register for than 10 people using either the same fingers or different fingers same as face capture.

In my polling unit, we gave the chance to the 2 parties to vote just for 3 people max cos time is not on our side. And it's because they begged us well, that's why we gave them chance
Because they complained that their voters card didn't come out Buh their names appears on the list of registered voters.

So we use their vins.

To me, it's the party agents that can still prevent rigging abit.
Else, in a polling unit, a party can make use of all the registered voters as their accredited voters meanwhile in real life, maybe only half of them voted. While others were voted in a 'crook means'.

During the rerun polls this year,my friends in other units said they found a way to accredit people whose names are on the register without them coming by double clicking on their names.they also found a way to reduce or void some of the accredited voters.

BluntCrazeMan:
Relax.
The BVAS is not that easy.
Anambra Election didn't use Manual Accreditation,, you know why??
Because Electronic Register was used.
And there was no where it was mandated in the Old Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) that Manual Register Must Be used.
The “Voter Register” was mentioned.
And this time, the Voter Register that was used was an Electronic Register...
And it allowed us to see the power of the BVAS

It is not easy but like other man made devices can be manipulated.it is a programme.even yiaga recently begged inec to do another test run on it

DeLaRue:
APC will be hoping for a strong Labour party performance in every SE, and SS state.

In fact, APC will benefit a lot if Wike supports Obi.

Anything that depresses PDP vote is a plus for APC.

You are right with this. I even feel APC is fueling the LP movement. It pays them. Se and SS has never been Apc stronghold. Atiku and pdp better step up

Salvador1:
you actually think APC will get over 10k votes in Anambra.

Who will give him that 100k votes.
U wish though... let me not discourage u.

Buhari got 30,000 so tinubu will get at least 50,000

BluntCrazeMan:
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I don't understand the REGISTER here...
INEC can detect double-registration through biometrics.

.

INEC flawed here cos bvas can capture a face for different PVC.
Like there's no authentication for it, just capture and it will accept it once it's clear.

And for the thumb, it can capture any of the fingers so far it is clean.
So no provisions for the authentication of it

Sammy07:


In the bvas, the thumbprint and face capture don't read have meaningful fuction to me.
Cos, one person can register for than 10 people using either the same fingers or different fingers same as face capture.

In my polling unit, we gave the chance to the 2 parties to vote just for 3 people max cos time is not on our side. And it's because they begged us well, that's why we gave them chance
Because they complained that their voters card didn't come out Buh their names appears on the list of registered voters.

So we use their vins.

To me, it's the party agents that can still prevent rigging abit.
Else, in a polling unit, a party can make use of all the registered voters as their accredited voters meanwhile in real life, maybe only half of them voted. While others were voted in a 'crook means'.

If the BVAS can read and accept the Thumbprint of someone else as the Thumbprint of another person,, then, that's a system error..
...
And it is INEC’s fault.
..
And it needs to be reported to them as quickly as possible

Salvador1:
exactly PDP may still carry the day.
They really have the spread in all regions unlike tinubu that doesn't care about southeast and some part of South south votes.

But they can't get bloc votes from any state...in this same delta in 2011 with gej it was 1.3,in 2015,1.2,2019 it was 600,000 and buhari with all the hate got 25%.think of what a southerner like tinubu will get with obi dividing pdp votes

garfield1:


Buhari got 30,000 so tinubu will get at least 50,000

u have come again with your prediction.

Time shall tell.
I wan ask u. Who do I think will deliver for tinubu in Anambra state?

Salvador1:
you actually think APC will get over 10k votes in Anambra.

Who will give him that 100k votes.
U wish though... let me not discourage u.

It's an assumption bro. That's why I said for example.

Same way lp can't have up to 5k votes in ekiti.

Just an assumption that numbers should be determinant not percentages

Sammy07:


INEC flawed here cos bvas can capture a face for different PVC.
Like there's no authentication for it, just capture and it will accept it once it's clear.

And for the thumb, it can capture any of the fingers so far it is clean.
So no provisions for the authentication of it

I can see..
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Woowwwww..
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And this allows for Multiple Voting,, so far the Voters Can Be Identified on the BVAS machine by any means,, even if it is with their names (without the Voters Card)., anybody can do the authentication and BOOM...
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I GARRIT NOW..

BluntCrazeMan:
If the BVAS can read and accept the Thumbprint of someone else as the Thumbprint of another person,, then, that's a system error..
...
And it is INEC’s fault.
..
And it needs to be reported to them as quickly as possible

Yulp, its their fault

Salvador1:
u have come again with your prediction.

Time shall tell.
I wan ask u. Who do I think will deliver for tinubu in Anambra state?

Ngige is there,apga self is tilting towards apc.defections will still happen.atiku won't get more than 100,000

garfield1:


But they can't get bloc votes from any state...in this same delta in 2011 with gej it was 1.3,in 2015,1.2,2019 it was 600,000 and buhari with all the hate got 25%.think of what a southerner like tinubu will get with obi dividing pdp votes

time shall tell na by January ending we will do the proper prediction.

Lalasticlala, Seun, Nlfpmod

BluntCrazeMan:
I can see..
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Woowwwww..
..
And this allows for Multiple Voting,, so far the Voters Can Be Identified on the BVAS machine.., anybody can do the authentication and BOOM...
..
I GARRIT NOW..

I noticed this thing in ogoja rerun.a particular person came three times to vote but because I was being cautious,I kept quiet.the bvas accredited him...at the rural areas,the security aren't armed and inec are at the mercy of the parties

BluntCrazeMan:
I can see..
..
Woowwwww..
..
And this allows for Multiple Voting,, so far the Voters Can Be Identified on the BVAS machine..
..
I GARRIT NOW..

Yessss. They need more improvement.

It is just very helpful esp in registered voters vs accredited voters. As in the case of IMO state elections where accredited voters are more registered voters

Salvador1:
time shall tell na by January ending we will do the proper prediction.

Oga,it is obvious.I was thinking he will win big in delta and Adamawa but as you can see,delta is difficult

garfield1:


Ngige is there,apga self is tilting towards apc.defections will still happen.atiku won't get more than 100,000

ngige and apuga tilting like seriously?

Salvador1:
ngige and apuga tilting like seriously?

Tinubu doesnt need anambra so far as atiku won't win there

Sammy07:


Yessss. They need more improvement.

It is just very helpful esp in registered voters vs accredited voters. As in the case of IMO state elections where accredited voters are more registered voters

The Anambra State Governorship Election BVAS Devices were tougher ooo...
Like,, as if they kind-of reduced the strength of the verification

garfield1:


Tinubu doesnt need anambra so far as atiku won't win there

this is where his failure starts.

garfield1:


During the rerun polls this year,my friends in other units said they found a way to accredit people whose names are on the register without them coming by double clicking on their names.they also found a way to reduce or void some of the accredited voters.

Exactly, once they see their names on the register or what do they call it then boom
They just use their VIN that's all

BluntCrazeMan:
The Anambra State Governorship Election BVAS Devices were tougher ooo...
Like,, as if they kind-of reduced the strength of the verification

Na the same bvas Buh you know that's the first time they'll use bvas so everyone is being careful.

After they've studied Anambra and Ekiti. Theyvs mastered it

You see that Osun even those wey no get PVC dey votes, so far they see their names and VIN or someone helped them sees it.

INEC needs improvement Abeq.

The verification has to be strong like NIN stuff