KnownUnknown:


And I asked for the source used by the “Jewish Rabbis who hated him so much” if they are not religious texts.
We’re any of this Jewish rabbis who hated him so much his contemporaries or were they discussing religious texts?

If you had a selfie video, you wouldn’t need faith or have the Chicago boy as a profile picture.

Read the underlined part of the screenshot again.

Further references are in the two extra screenshots.

OkCornel:


Too late, can’t change goalposts in the middle of the game. Outside the gospel was the yardstick for this discussion.

I didn’t know there was a time limit for yardsticks lol.

KnownUnknown:


And I asked for the source used by the “Jewish Rabbis who hated him so much” if they are not religious texts.
Were any of these “Jewish rabbis who hated him so much” his contemporaries or were they discussing religious texts?

What magic exactly did these Jewish rabbis say he performed.

If you had a selfie video, you wouldn’t need faith or have the Chicago boy as a profile picture.

You have no idea what faith entails mehn.

You can see your father and mother right? Do you trust them? That’s Faith. Not delusion.

Trust and obedience is faith. Jeez!

blokoncept:


An atheist indeed...

Your religious Mind won't let you understand the WORD OF GOD not what your Pastor or parents have been brainwashing you since childhood.

Open your mind and recieve wisdom.

hmmm...i see,soundbite doctrines,u are exclusively deluded<i'm most certain about this>thats ur self-conviction which is cosmically disorientation of urself,how then can u demystify john 1:1-3 so u can assimilate with ur intellects?tell me,how then can u construe eph 6:17"put on the helmet of salvation and the full armour of God<the sword of truth<word of God> etc..>

OkCornel:


Read the underlined part of the screenshot again.

Further references are in the two extra screenshots.

What does the underline part prove? That two rabbis discussed the magical powers of some dudes? Where, when? Where they eye witness. Random excerpts are not helping.

What does the other two screenshots prove? That some guy named Joshua Ben Perachjah went to Egypt?

KnownUnknown:


I didn’t know there was a time limit for yardsticks lol.

You can’t refute the evidences of existence in the extra biblical sources. I really wonder what the whole needless rigmarole was for really.

KnownUnknown:


What does the underline part prove? That two rabbis discussed the magical powers of some dudes?

What does the other two screenshots prove? That some guy named Joshua Ben Perachjah went to Egypt?

It proves Jesus Christ existed, and the Judaisers hated him. Case closed.

OkCornel:


You have no idea what faith entails mehn.

You can see your father and mother right? Do you trust them? That’s Faith. Not delusion.

Trust and obedience is faith. Jeez!

I don’t have faith in my parents. I trust my parents based on facts.
That’s not religious faith. Trust and obedience are not religious faith.

Religious faith is believing implausible stories, doctrine, and dogma. But this is beside the point.

OkCornel:


It proves Jesus Christ existed, and the Judaisers hated him. Case closed.

No it doesn’t.

OkCornel:


You can’t refute the evidences of existence in the extra biblical sources. I really wonder what the whole needless rigmarole was for really.

You have no evidence and it’s been shown that your so called historicity of Jesus is wholly dependent on the gospels including the interpolations from Josephus.

With this funny and narrow mindset, someone will soon tell us the Obas of Benin around the 1500s never existed.

I can’t help but laugh at some people’s thought process

OkCornel:
With this funny and narrow mindset, someone will soon tell us the Obas of Benin around the 1500s never existed.

I can’t help but laugh at some people’s thought process

Is there any doubt about their existence? Does their existence include stories of ghosts impregnating virgins? If yes, we will have to bring them to the spotlight too. Lol

KnownUnknown:


I don’t have faith in my parents. I trust my parents based on facts.
That’s not religious faith. Trust and obedience are not religious faith.

Religious faith is believing implausible stories, doctrine, and dogma. But this is beside the point.

You’ve missed the point altogether. Trust right there is FAITH.

I don’t care about the basis of your trust. You trust your parents, you have faith in them. Simple!

Care to google the synonyms for TRUST?

OkCornel:


You’ve missed the point altogether. Trust right there is FAITH.

I don’t care about the basis of your trust. You trust your parents, you have faith in them. Simple!

Care to google the synonyms for TRUST?

Trusting your parents is not the same as having faith that a ghost impregnated a Hebrew virgin who gave birth to a white boy.

OkCornel:


You’ve missed the point altogether. Trust right there is FAITH.

I don’t care about the basis of your trust. You trust your parents, you have faith in them. Simple!

Care to google the synonyms for TRUST?

In the context of religion, one can define faith as "belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion".[3] Religious people often think of faith as confidence based on a perceived degree of warrant,[4][5] while others who are more skeptical of religion tend to think of faith as simply belief without evidence.[6]


1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. e.g. Parents

2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith" e.g. Jesus

KnownUnknown:


You have no evidence and it’s been shown that your so called historicity of Jesus is wholly dependent on the gospels including the interpolations from Josephus.

For the umpteenth time, claims of interpolation on Josephus’ accounts are already debunked.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

KnownUnknown:


Trusting your parents is not the same as having faith that a ghost impregnated a Hebrew virgin who gave birth to a white boy.

Another lame deflection.

You don’t know the difference between faith and indoctrination.

OkCornel:


For the umpteenth time, claims of interpolation on Josephus’ accounts are already debunked.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

They haven’t been debunked. Anyone with critical thinking skills can see the ruse. One of the interpolations is even said to be more real than the other. Lol No, they are all fake.

OkCornel:


Another lame deflection.

You don’t know the difference between faith and indoctrination.

Faith
1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. e.g. Parents

2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith" e.g. Okcornel who believes Jesus crawled out of a virgin.

KnownUnknown:


They haven’t been debunked. Anyone with critical thinking skills can see the ruse. One of the interpolations is even said to be more real than the other. Lol No, they are all fake.

The same ruse only you can see, but all scholars of antiquity can’t see right?

Tell me another joke.

Read this part of the screenshot slowly.

“There is no indication that writers in antiquity who opposed Christianity questioned the existence of Jesus”

OkCornel:


The same ruse only you can see, but all scholars of antiquity can’t see right?

Tell me another joke.

Appeal to authority remains a fallacy too many are susceptible too.
I don’t give a damn about the “scholar” when evidence shows otherwise.
Why do I need a scholar to see the circular nature of the so called testimonium and the other nonsense?

OkCornel:


The same ruse only you can see, but all scholars of antiquity can’t see right?

Tell me another joke.

Read this part of the screenshot slowly.

“There is no indication that writers in antiquity who opposed Christianity questioned the existence of Jesus”

A joke is that a guy named Jesus existed and died for you.

When you find a contemporaneous scholar from antiquity who saw the boy perform magic, please post.

KnownUnknown:


Appeal to authority remains a fallacy too many are susceptible too.
I don’t give a damn about the “scholar” when evidence shows otherwise.
Why do I need a scholar to see the circular nature of the so called testimonium and the other nonsense?

I guess all the beliefs you hold does not appeal to any authority whatsoever, even after it’s subject to reviews from different people/sources hmmm?

Lovely double standards I see at play here.

KnownUnknown:


A joke is that a guy named Jesus existed and died for you.

When you find a contemporaneous scholar from antiquity who saw the boy perform magic, please post.

He existed. Case closed.

Now entertain me some more.

KnownUnknown:


Faith
1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. e.g. Parents

2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith" e.g. Okcornel who believes Jesus crawled out of a virgin.

Faith precedes indoctrination from a religious or political standpoint. Faith is not indoctrination.

Understand this basic difference.

OkCornel:


He existed. Case closed.

Now entertain me some more.

No he didn't.

You can end this discussion by providing testimonies by People who actually saw him and heard him.

Or a historian reporting about the earthquake that happened at his execution

Or the zombies coming out from their graves..

Or Herods infanticide...

Any of these will do..

I told you before that whatever those Jewish scholars know about Jesus , they heard them from Christians....

And we have shown here that Christianity is not derived from Judaism, so where dafuq did jebus come from?

sonmvayina:


No he didn't.

You can end this discussion by providing testimonies by People who actually saw him and heard him.

Or a historian reporting about the earthquake that happened at his execution

Or the zombies coming out from their graves..

Or Herods infanticide...

Any of these will do..

Humor me some more. Apostle Peter that was killed by Nero as part of the persecution of the Christians by the Roman Empire is a ghost too right?

Pontius Pilate that condemned Jesus to death is also a fictional character corroborated by Tacitus right?

sonmvayina:
I told you before that whatever those Jewish scholars know about Jesus , they heard them from Christians....

And we have shown here that Christianity is not derived from Judaism, so where dafuq did jebus come from?

Where was Christianity derived from?

The Romans that persecuted Christians, crucified some and fed some to lions?

Tell me another joke abeg.

OkCornel:


Where was Christianity derived from?

The Romans that persecuted Christians, crucified some and fed some to lions?

Tell me another joke abeg.

Christianity started in Egypt as the worship of serapis.it is not based on a demi god. The idea of God mating with human is not part of Judaism...

OkCornel:


Humor me some more. Apostle Peter that was killed by Nero as part of the persecution of the Christians by the Roman Empire is a ghost too right?

Pontius Pilate that condemned Jesus to death is also a fictional character corroborated by Tacitus right?

It was the Christians that reported those. Not historians...these your point does not hold water,

sonmvayina:

It was the Christians that reported those. Not historians...these your point does not hold water,

Wait a minute, the persecution of Christians by Nero and the Roman Empire was reported by Christians? Are you joking right now?

So Tacitus and Pliny the Younger were Christians?