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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Nobody: 1:45pm On Sep 06, 2022
MikeofAfrica:


The problem is can FG handle the effect of such increment. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Hence if you pay profs. #800,000, other teachers across the sector will also demand for an enormous increment.
Then the Doctors, Judges, Civil servants, Electric workers etc will embark on their own strikes to demand for their own increment.

I addressed this in my other post. I am an economist, thus I know the cost implications of such. The solution is that federal and state universities have to start generating funds to cater for a percentage of their salaries. If all schools are encouraged to take part-time and distance learning programmes, engage in career training programmes, offer other related services, they can safely contribute a substantial percentage of their salaries to the federal coffers.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by damiloladuke: 1:46pm On Sep 06, 2022
1million or nothing
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by larrypourl(m): 1:48pm On Sep 06, 2022
BeanmanX:
You re so damn ignorant,,,,so u are comparing to the shithole India,,,why can't you compare with south Africa?.....

Go and confirm how much lectures and professors are paid in South Universities and come back here,,,,,if this isn't the height of stupidity... angry

My brother, a lecturer in one of the FG Universities went for this exchange program they do between countries. He was posted to a Uni in Gambia and doesn't want to come back to naija again. He earns over ×2 of his pay in Gambia. Naija is finished honestly.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Nobody: 1:48pm On Sep 06, 2022
ExudeLoveToAll:


That's small, it means if one enters into tgeUnversity teaching profession one can't earn up to a million naira at the end of one's career, very appalling.

Some state University have been paying more than a million to it's professors for years now, the FG can do better.

We need to attract smart minds into the profession by making it attractive. This will also rub off on the quality of graduates produced from our Universities over time.

Wow! Would you mind mentioning those state universities that are giving a remuneration of over 1 million naira to their profs? I'd really appreciate.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Jessewizy(m): 1:51pm On Sep 06, 2022
Victoronah1:
800k for a professor, that is 9.6miilion a year ,minus other allowances. you guys must be very selfish, and wicked. How much is director at level 16 in a ministry with over 35 years of work salary. Is your job more professional than them. Even permanent secretary salary is not up to 500k. Wicked souls. A teacher at primary school with over 35 years will retire with 70k max, but Una go take almost 800% of the salary. Now I see the reason ASUU is on strike. Federal government should sack all professors, who are into this, and replace them with PHd people who are serious.

In India average salary of a professor is 477,352.78
If not for the devaluation of our currency.

How much are specialized doctors earning.

How much are judges earning. A judge in Nigeria high or appeal court is not up to 400k. Do you know what it takes to become a judge. Nonsense, na only una dey build Nigeria for. Because they call themselves proffers which is a title, then they feel they are superior


How much is universities making for federal government that they should go into debt to pay such amount of money? If universities are making money, they should be able to pay these lecturers with ease.


Stop talking nonsense. If you have nothing to say, shut up.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by PJ123: 1:53pm On Sep 06, 2022
mrvitalis:
This is wickedness ...less than $15,000 a year for a professor na wah ooh

Are they spending in dollars?
Stop this trash. If teachers convert what they to dollar, they will never go back to work.
All we need to do is to solve our economic problem so Naira can be strong.
What's the cost of living in US and Nigeria.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Owopariola001: 1:53pm On Sep 06, 2022
CzarChris:
I wanted to have a meaningful conversation with you, but clearly you want to take this conversation to the gutters. Well, good luck with that, I'm out of the trenches and you can't bring me down to your level.

Infact all public Universities should be closed down and money to be used to pay the staffs should be channeled to something else. People like me are already out, so continue.

You're the one not making meaningful conversation.

Any professors that believe he's earning less than he deserves should move to another job or university that can pay him. Isn't that what is applicable in the private sector?

Why will employees want to dictate to the employers?

And for your information, many of these "professors" finished with 2.2 in their undergraduates, and they got their masters and phd through paddy paddy. Even their professorships is based on paddy paddy.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by NapoleonHill: 1:55pm On Sep 06, 2022
Jemex003:




That’s not too much but those lecturers need a strong law that will hold them down too cuz they cannot be collecting such among and devote their time for part job at private universities. State and federal universities need to pass law on this Profs cuz the 800k will still be useless as usual

Let the prof. go and contest an election.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by MikeofAfrica: 1:55pm On Sep 06, 2022
dirtydaya:


Are you joking? that is too small considering the economy .

A whole Professor

One of the problems that we have is that we respect " titles " more than achievements. Believe me, some secondary School teachers are better than some of our professors.
The real profs. don't depend on salary. Most of them have published works across the world and are making more than #800 000 per month.
If FG pay them the increment, then other Unions will also demand for a silimar increment. At the end, we will spend over 90% of our budget on recurrent expedition.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Seankhalifa: 1:55pm On Sep 06, 2022
selopay:
Anything to get the children back to school..
800k is approx 1150usd, not that much but hope FG won't start owing..

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by larrypourl(m): 1:56pm On Sep 06, 2022
Wilson500:
My Landlord said that FG should do the needful by increasing their salaries
but
he said that ASUU should sacrifice their 6 months salary as part of the struggle because students have done so with their time
You have to lose something to gain something
.

It means for ASUU to forgo the 6months salaries, ASUU won't also attend to backlog of work then. It simply means that session would be cancelled. Schools fees will be repaid by students, they'll repeat that class, the students admitted for that sessions will have to rewrite jamb again, etc.... The academic environment is complex. If agreements were reached, that session can be fast tracked without students losing much.

I pray both parties find lasting solutions to these wahala sha.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by starz100: 1:56pm On Sep 06, 2022
800 k a month is not bad, but it is shameful for some people to be making comparisons with the SA to the president 's as if we don't know he is a political appointee who will most likely go after his principal leaves office Further more, how many such political appointees are there compared to the number of professors.

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by otokx(m): 2:00pm On Sep 06, 2022
ASUU may still reject this offer.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by uniquelyspecial(m): 2:03pm On Sep 06, 2022
Boyooosa:
We are not saying they shouldn't be collecting N1bn per month, afterall their politician-counterparts are earning millions of naira per month and unaccountable billions before they run out of their individual tenures...so, professors should feel free to demand for N1bn per month since they were the ones that trained the politicians how to mismanage the country's resources just the way we are seeing it presently in the country.
But the Nigeria economy can fund the luxurious lifestyle of all politicians down to ward level abi?
We no gree. Them must answer ASUU

But my own concern is, Can the economy of Nigeria sustain such liability? Because, if the current administration is boxed to approve it now, we will not want a situation where the incoming administration will not be able to sustain the payment and thereby, giving the so called professors audacity to come back again and start wasting the time and lives of the innocent students, which some of them are even still in secondary schools for now...

That's the angle people like us are examining it, not their unavoidable rivalry and show of shame two of them have engaged themselves for the past 6months now
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Jessewizy(m): 2:04pm On Sep 06, 2022
womenareapezz:
can you tell me which organisation is paying 35million monthly undecided

Even big firm like nnpc MD or director pay ain't up to 500k per month undecided
800k salery is just nonsense
Why do you people just talk for talking sake.
FYI, I know a senior staff at NPDC who earns over 800k. He was a field medical manager/director at Benin medicals.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Coolgent(m): 2:06pm On Sep 06, 2022
Ernchibyke:
Sounds good...
But how can an SA to the president be paid 1m. And we're here dragging and suggesting a prof earn 800k, after years of study and research work

S.A
Has no pension nor gratuity, and his tenure is 4 year or 8 years maximum.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by 4ward4: 2:07pm On Sep 06, 2022
Boyooosa:
We are not saying they shouldn't be collecting N1bn per month, afterall their politician-counterparts are earning millions of naira per month and unaccountable billions before they run out of their individual tenures...so, professors should feel free to demand for N1bn per month since they were the ones that trained the politicians how to mismanage the country's resources just the way we are seeing it presently in the country.

But my own concern is, Can the economy of Nigeria sustain such liability? Because, if the current administration is boxed to approve it now, we will not want a situation where the incoming administration will not be able to sustain the payment and thereby, giving the so called professors audacity to come back again and start wasting the time and lives of the innocent students, which some of them are even still in secondary schools for now...

That's the angle people like us are examining it, not their unavoidable rivalry and show of shame two of them have engaged themselves for the past 6months now


That is much with respect to a country like Nigeria. Politicians have a definite time frame and once your time is up and you aren't elected, you will be saying goodbye to salaries from the government coffer. But a professor will be on that steady pay until 65yrs of age.
Most often , professors contact hours in schools are very few. in a whole semester, you can encounter a professor of a course 10 or less.
If their aim and target is to become rich from the government coffer, we all know that is impossible...Even the legislators and government appointees will only end up been poor if they depend on Government pay. Majority of them engage In contract execution in disguise..That is exactly where a large chunk of their money comes from
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by sultan003(m): 2:09pm On Sep 06, 2022
Victoronah1:
800k for a professor, that is 9.6miilion a year ,minus other allowances. you guys must be very selfish, and wicked. How much is director at level 16 in a ministry with over 35 years of work salary. Is your job more professional than them. Even permanent secretary salary is not up to 500k. Wicked souls. A teacher at primary school with over 35 years will retire with 70k max, but Una go take almost 800% of the salary. Now I see the reason ASUU is on strike. Federal government should sack all professors, who are into this, and replace them with PHd people who are serious.

In India average salary of a professor is 477,352.78
If not for the devaluation of our currency.

How much are specialized doctors earning.

How much are judges earning. A judge in Nigeria high or appeal court is not up to 400k. Do you know what it takes to become a judge. Nonsense, na only una dey build Nigeria for. Because they call themselves proffers which is a title, then they feel they are superior


How much is universities making for federal government that they should go into debt to pay such amount of money? If universities are making money, they should be able to pay these lecturers with ease.



Currently specialized Doctors in Nigeria earn more than professors
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by ATLIEN2027: 2:12pm On Sep 06, 2022
The federal govt should get out of this federal university business. Privatize the schools or give them to states to manage.
Allow people to pay for schools they can afford and just provide some subsidies.
The unending saga of constant strikes enough.
Tiring and sickening.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by 4ward4: 2:12pm On Sep 06, 2022
womenareapezz:
can you tell me which organisation is paying 35million monthly undecided

Even big firm like nnpc MD or director pay ain't up to 500k per month undecided
800k salery is just nonsense

My friend no Near NNPC oo, even their latest recruit earn close to 500k with plus and minus
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by 4ward4: 2:13pm On Sep 06, 2022
ATLIEN2027:
The federal govt should get out of this federal university business. Privatize the schools or give them to states to manage.
Allow people 5o page for schools they can afford and just provide some subsidies.
The unending saga of constant strikes enough.


No where in the world is government not part of the education system...Schooling is free in Germany hope u know,Chinese inclusive. they might charge high on foreign students.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by larrypourl(m): 2:14pm On Sep 06, 2022
womenareapezz:
can you tell me which organisation is paying 35million monthly undecided

Even big firm like nnpc MD or director pay ain't up to 500k per month undecided
800k salery is just nonsense

Did you say NNPC MD isn't earning 500k monthly? Your comment is laughable grin grin
Please go find out the entry level of NNPC, NLNG, DPR, FIRS, NDIC, NDC (Northeast Development Commission), etc..then come back and modify your statement.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by hush15: 2:23pm On Sep 06, 2022
Boyooosa:
We are not saying they shouldn't be collecting N1bn per month, afterall their politician-counterparts are earning millions of naira per month and unaccountable billions before they run out of their individual tenures...so, professors should feel free to demand for N1bn per month since they were the ones that trained the politicians how to mismanage the country's resources just the way we are seeing it presently in the country.

But my own concern is, Can the economy of Nigeria sustain such liability? Because, if the current administration is boxed to approve it now, we will not want a situation where the incoming administration will not be able to sustain the payment and thereby, giving the so called professors audacity to come back again and start wasting the time and lives of the innocent students, which some of them are even still in secondary schools for now...

That's the angle people like us are examining it, not their unavoidable rivalry and show of shame two of them have engaged themselves for the past 6months now


Am very positive government can not meet up but it can be sustained to. The pros outweighs the cons.

Afterall, if government can pay special adviser who had resign and been absent from office for 3months his full renuneration and still resume back only because he didnt win the prinaries of his political ambition, then paying that is easy.

Moreover, when government knoes that the pay huge bills to pay to true workers, maybe it will discourage waste they always embark on.

Best part is, if people know they can be rewarded to work as educationists, just maybe people will be interest in studying even to professorship.
Most importantly, the economy may be vibrant again with so many intellectuals.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by wacuc0: 2:28pm On Sep 06, 2022
CzarChris:
Let me say that you are not speaking from a stand point of understanding. How many directors of level 16 are PhD holders? Of primary school teachers that are Masters degree holders? Remember that those specialized doctors are also taught by professors in that field. You spoke about Indian professors, but I thank God you corrected yourself by hinting on the devaluation of our currency, our money has absolutely zero worth as it is right now.
Do you know that you keep publishing in journals, both local and international, you do research with zero support from our government or industries in the form of grants. So you do your research from your own pocket, you pay for your publications (most times in dollars) from your own pocket. And you say 800k is too much? HABA!!! Get small conscience nah, I published 2 papers in international journals last year the cheapest cost me $100. By our current exchange rate, that's around ~71,000naira now, don't get me started on my ongoing protons exchange research, that's costing millions of my personal money, I send samples to labs in Canada and Netherlands because we don't have the needed equipment in Nigeria here. A course mate of mine who lectures in the UK was given a €2,000,000 grant by the EU. TWO MILLION EUROS!!! Do you understand where I'm coming from now?
Well, not that it matters to me anymore now. I have been disillusioned by this country as it is right now. So goodluck to y'all.

This sounds well. But the truth is that our professors are not innovative. How can we have hundreds of them and they can not come with a solution of making money to run projects, research and finance the schools.

A Nigeria in Yale university who is a professor of African studies argued that laziness, greed and free money is what is killing our universities. Yale university had a budget of 25b dollar a year and over 80% of that came from Alumini, Sports, research, patency. Why can't our universities do even one.
Work athletic, commonwealth games, Olympic are made up is university students from the world making millions of dollars from endorsements. None not even one from a Nigerian university for over 50years. This one is not a rocket science.

The idea of waiting for allocation is the course of our not moving forward. I remember the days of PMAN, waiting for allocation from government to run entertainment industry. Nigeria music was among the top bottom in the world. Here come 2015 the same industry asked themselves we can not continue. Today we are among the top 3 in the world.

Summarily, any industry in Nigeria that goes away from government subvention and look inward can blossom and rule the world. We have the biggest market in Africa, so why can't we do it.

For our Federal university remember the accomodations fees, admission fee, acceptance fee are not paid to the government, amounting to billions what do they do with it. Share, share and share .

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Holaomoakin(m): 2:32pm On Sep 06, 2022
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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Prince001(m): 2:53pm On Sep 06, 2022
UrProguy:
You people should just call off this damn strike already and stop holding students ransome, if they increase the money, how much will you settle the students you have driven to debts already.

What do u mean, u mean they should sacrificed their hard earned time and money to acquired professor for the student where in the same country ordinarily councillor they earned more than Prof.
Ask how much those useless house of rep and senate are collecting 1st then tell those uneducated politicians to sacrifice their money for the student then our Prof will follow suit!
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by VALENTINE2690: 2:55pm On Sep 06, 2022
Ernchibyke:
Sounds good...
But how can an SA to the president be paid 1m. And we're here dragging and suggesting a prof earn 800k, after years of study and research work


Professors should join politics
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by baba4thegehs: 3:00pm On Sep 06, 2022
Victoronah1:
800k for a professor, that is 9.6miilion a year ,minus other allowances. you guys must be very selfish, and wicked. How much is director at level 16 in a ministry with over 35 years of work salary. Is your job more professional than them. Even permanent secretary salary is not up to 500k. Wicked souls. A teacher at primary school with over 35 years will retire with 70k max, but Una go take almost 800% of the salary. Now I see the reason ASUU is on strike. Federal government should sack all professors, who are into this, and replace them with PHd people who are serious.

In India average salary of a professor is 477,352.78
If not for the devaluation of our currency.

How much are specialized doctors earning.

How much are judges earning. A judge in Nigeria high or appeal court is not up to 400k. Do you know what it takes to become a judge. Nonsense, na only una dey build Nigeria for. Because they call themselves proffers which is a title, then they feel they are superior


How much is universities making for federal government that they should go into debt to pay such amount of money? If universities are making money, they should be able to pay these lecturers with ease.



Benchmark these figures you listed with what these politicians earn then you'd understand their griviances.
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Ayodeoba: 3:03pm On Sep 06, 2022
staga:


You can as well pay a truck pusher in the market N1m a month. Federal Government should sack all professors and replace them with who?
There is nothing in your skull.
well 800k is not too much to offer a prof but FG may also push for increments in tuition fee which could rose to 1.5m per session,I think that would stop the re occuring strikes. But note that a poor man may never get education again
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by alimiadedayo1: 3:03pm On Sep 06, 2022
staga:


You can as well pay a truck pusher in the market N1m a month. Federal Government should sack all professors and replace them with who?
There is nothing in your skull.
they guy has no sense at all and he is not okay

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Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Freebills12: 3:03pm On Sep 06, 2022
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Victoronah1:
[color=#990000]800k for a professor, that is 9.6miilion a year ,minus other allowances. you guys must be very selfish, and wicked. How much is director at level 16 in a ministry with over 35 years of work salary. Is your job more professional than them. Even permanent secretary salary is not up to 500k. Wicked souls. A teacher at primary school with over 35 years will retire with 70k max, but Una go take almost 800% of the salary. Now I see the reason ASUU is on strike. Federal government should sack all professors, who are into this, and replace them with PHd people who are serious.

In India average salary of a professor is 477,352.78
If not for the devaluation of our currency.

How much are specialized doctors earning.

How much are judges earning. A judge in Nigeria high or appeal court is not up to 400k. Do you know what it takes to become a judge. Nonsense, na only una dey build Nigeria for. Because they call themselves proffers which is a title, then they feel they are superior


How much is universities making for federal government that they should go into debt to pay such amount of money? If universities are making money, they should be able to pay these lecturers with ease.



Hypocrite! Are you not aware that VC is an elective post that lasts for 4 years. A senator takes home #35 million a month as a salary but you are mad at VC that goes home with 800k?
Re: ASUU Strike: Committee Of VCs Recommend ₦800,000 For Profs, To Resolve Deadlock by Ayodeoba: 3:04pm On Sep 06, 2022
baba4thegehs:


Benchmark these figures you listed with what these politicians earn then you'd understand their griviances.

well 800k is not too much to offer a prof but FG may also push for increments in tuition fee which could rose to 1.5m per session,I think that would stop the re occuring strikes. But note that a poor man may never get education again

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