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I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:24pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Hi Everyone, Please I need advice on a Pentecostal non-prosperity church in Nigeria. I am tired of hearing about sowing seeds and reaping fruits of money and health because I have the conviction that it is not the true gospel. Your recommendations will be highly appreciated. Thank you. 5 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Nobody: 3:26pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Christ embassy is the church you are looking for |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Zee0007: 3:31pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Your best bet is to follow any of these apostles. 1) Apostle Michael Orokpo 2) Apostle Joshua Selman 3) Apostle Arome osayi. Hear them and come back here and thank me. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by duro4chang(m): 3:31pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Go to CAC or Apostolic Faith or The Apostolic Church. But the truth is that all churches are doing copy and paste. 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:39pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Rozross:Is Christ Embassy not a Prosperity Church? Please correct me if I am wrong. 4 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 3:39pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:Churchianism has absolutely nothing to do with what is the "true gospel" as it is instead founded on that which are the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which Jesus Christ clearly warned deceive and delude the multitudes away from following God's Truth, what I assume you refer to as the "true gospel" - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. In fact, Churchianism might as well be likened to the broad gate through which Jesus Christ warned that multitudes of born-agains will flood into the Kingdom of God, a gate which unfortunately leads them all to destruction(eternal damnation) at the end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 17. ![]() So my first recommendation is that you disconnect your mind and mental from the churches of men, be they pentecostal, catholic, or any-costal... they have absolutely nothing to do with the truth of God. ![]() Second advice, erase all doctrines and traditions of these churches and men from your mind and instead approach God Himself in order that He may teach you His truth anew. Jesus Christ came to remove the veil that existed between God and men. In Jeremiah 31vs 31 -34, God said of His New agreement(the Gospel and Law in the Kingdom of God) that He Himself will teach men of Himself. So, it makes no sense for you, upon knowing of God and of Jesus Christ being one who can save you from the burden that is this world, to then depend on other men to spoonfeed you there regurgitant - lies - when God Himself can be your very own Teacher - He said that He will be your one and only Teacher. So ask Him to come and be your Teacher, and allow Him to direct you in His way as He said He would. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
duro4chang:Please when you say copy and paste, do you mean that they are also preaching the Prosperity gospel? |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Nobody: 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:Christ embassy covers all aspects of life and spirituality |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:41pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Please are you advising me to stop going to Church altogether? The Bible asks us not to forsake the gathering of the brethen. 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:42pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Rozross:Ok. I will research more into the Church. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by duro4chang(m): 3:43pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:Yes but small small |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 3:52pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:Just enter Deeperlife but can you handle it? 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:52pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Jashub:I have been thinking about it. 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by sexiestharam(f): 3:53pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Zee0007: Thank you. I have heard about Selman but not about the rest. I will research on them. 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 3:54pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:Just try it . I do not attend there any more because of personal beliefs . But if you are looking for a church that emphasizes on holiness , righteousness and sin, it is deeper-life 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 4:02pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
sexiestharam:1. YES! 2. Tha particular statement which these Churchians use to justify the foolishness that Churchianism is has instead to do with God's command to those of Hebrew descent. The writer of the letter to the Hebrew Christians instead meant that as advice for his Hebrew brethren, particularly those who were still in the Land of Canaan, that they continue to honor the many holy assemblies God commanded of them in His Old Law of Moses which also happens to be the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel given by God to the people of Israel whom He constituted a Nation of in the Land of Canaan. God gave Holy days(Holidays) to the Nation of Israel. ![]() 4 “In addition to the Sabbath, these are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the official days for holy assembly that are to be celebrated at their proper times each year.On some of those days, He commanded them to observe what are holy assemblies with instructions on what they must not carry out on such days. ![]() 14 “This is a day to remember. Each year, from generation to generation, you must celebrate it as a special festival to the Lord. This is a law for all time.All this, as you can see, are of God's Old Law and Covenant, and as such the reason why the writer of the letter to the Hebrew Christians directed his message at those of Hebrew descent. Jesus Christ never asked any of His followers to build what you call churches, nor did He instruct His followers to gather in the way that is Churchianism under the bid and authority of men. Churchianity or Churchianism is a religion that is founded on that which is against Jesus Christ. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Richardidegah7: 4:13pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Try Deeper Life |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 4:15pm On Sep 15, 2022 |
Richardidegah7:Run the heck away from Deeper life abeg... that one na super cult levels. ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Joeaugust: 3:05pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
saints community, edification ministries |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Lighthouse50: 3:21pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:Sir pls explain the persnnal beliefs. They might be of help to a soul |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by efficiencie(m): 3:24pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
sexiestharam: Spend more time in isolation worshipping, praying, interceding and studying the scriptures. The fastest way to grow in the knowledge of Christ. 4 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 3:34pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:There ideas of * holiness is focused on the outward appearances of things, that Jesus Christ warned His followers against. * righteousness has to do with moral acts which have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ or the Kingdom of God * And when it comes to the definition of sin, they think that God's Old Law of Moses, the Constitution which God gave to the people of Israel, whom He constituted a Nation of in the Land of Israel is what Jesus Christ came to, against God's own decree, give to them. Surely, one only has to read scripture without a tainted mind to realize that the group is no different from the other churchian cults out there whose religion is built on lies that Jesus Christ warned are designed to deceive multitudes away from discovering and following the Truth of God. ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 3:48pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Lighthouse50:That is private information which has nothing to do with your salavtion. |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 3:50pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:You keep forgetting that salvation is a personal race that has nothing to do with your own views and interpretations. Kindly run your race . After all, you salvation cannot save anyone and neither can anyone's salvation save you ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 3:59pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:So, is this Salvation you speak of no longer meant to be according to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ? ![]() 2. My salvation cannot save anyone? I am not certain I follow... aren't we all individually running the same exact race according to the same rules and teachings, that of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God? ![]() If their race is being run in a direction that does not conform with the rules and teachings of Jesus Christ, doesn't that mean the end will not be the same as that set by Jesus Christ, God's Law in the Kingdom of God? ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Lighthouse50: 4:04pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:Okay i was thinking a discovery which you kept to ynurself. I get you. Good day |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 4:06pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Read my post again because it seems you do not understand the message . Thank you 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 4:17pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:Salvation is not privately defined... it is by the very same teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ that it is all to be judged. So any one person or group that takes it on themselves to add, change or remove from the Law as declared by Jesus Christ in the Kingdom of God abandons salvation as offered by Jesus Christ seeking instead that which pretends to imitate it. ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 4:20pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Really ? So when did you make yourself Jesus Christ ? ![]() Secondly , does my salvation , religious interpretation , or doctrine of scripture add or subtract to the next person's definition of salvation ? Please answer since it is obvious you are idle and are in need of petty online arguments ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 4:27pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:1. I never said I was Jesus Christ but I know Jesus Christ - He is the Truth of God. ![]() 31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,2. If that which you call your salvation does not align with the Truth of Jesus Christ as spoken to men from over 2000 years ago, it means that when you open your mouth to claim you are of Jesus Christ, what you do is speak lies using His name. It means that when you go out pretending to preach the Gospel to others, what you preach are false doctrines and traditions, lies, and an abomination to God. So, yes, you do impact the salvation of others negatively when you hold on and proclaim you are of Jesus Christ. ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Jashub: 4:35pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Lol...you are contradicting yourself: You said you are not Jesus yet you condemn me for not listening to your own twisted interpretation of salvation and scripture . How laughable!!!. ![]() And by the way, did I ever say I am preaching or following doctrines? Can you see how narrow-minded you are? ![]() I think it would be safe to say that you have a very shallow-mentality about everything contrary to your view ![]() Which to me is the complete opposite of what the bible teaches ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I Need A Non-prosperity Church. Advice Needed. by Kobojunkie: 4:49pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Jashub:1. I am afraid your confusion is not mine. I am not Jesus Christ but I stated is exactly that which Jesus Christ taught to His followers from over 2000 years ago. If you had bothered reading through the Gospels without your "special interpretation" goggles you would known of this. ![]() 2. No one who follows the Truth of God would ever recommend the doctrines and traditions of men to others. You are not as opaque as you think. ![]() 3. Even safer to claim that I believe that Jesus Christ is absolutely the only Way there is to the Salvation which He offers - all the doctrines and traditions of men are lies which only lead the multitudes to paths that are against Jesus Christ , just as Jesus Christ Himself said and taught. The so-called shallow-mentality you perseve is born from that very conviction which I now have, thanks to God. ![]() That is actually what Jesus Christ taught but sadly most of you are instead filled with ideas that are far from that written in scripture. ![]() |
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