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Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Lawag3: 8:11am On Sep 16, 2022 |
Tamaratonye1:I'm not a bible student but I know that there's a verse in the bible which talks about people who did not see the Lord but believe by faith and it talks about reward for those people. yes but none of then ever said this three words in one sentence I am the way the truth and the light some religions have said one or two of this words but never the three many even said that they are not the way. Look it up and tell me what you find. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Lawag3: 8:13am On Sep 16, 2022 |
LordTheus: The God that said he was the way the truth and light |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by sonmvayina(m): 10:30am On Sep 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol...funny You still have a lot to learn.. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by sonmvayina(m): 10:32am On Sep 16, 2022 |
LordTheus: Anubis is not a god. Sango is not a god. There is only one creator of all. Anubis, Sango, Ogun are what the Yoruba calls orisha. They are laws and principles of life ... The bible calls them "the sons of God" |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by sonmvayina(m): 10:33am On Sep 16, 2022 |
Lawag3: God is not a man or human being. God is the universal consciousnesses...personified.. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 11:34am On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: see how you had nothing reasonable to say in anawer that you had to resort to the fallacy of Argumentum ad populum (because the population of the views of stupid people have increased, so they are right). iPhone will never be greater than Steve Jobs & Co. even if all the iPhones agree and say that they are greater! Judas1X: See how you disgrace yourself! Even the phone, television and car in your hand, (without the bible called Google) you did not know the science and nitty gritty involved in making them and you are a witness and present during their creation, AND YET, YOU AND ALL OF US KNOW THAT THEY WERE CREATED BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A THING TO CREATE ITSELF. SO THIS JUST SHOWS HOW GREATLY LUNATIC YOU ARE TO DEMAND OF ME HOW THIS HOUSE CALLED WAS BUILT AND CREATED, EVEN WHEN I WAS NOT THERE? Judas1X: Your decayed flesh you call a brain would have told you that this is and all the other shits you shit is a deviation from post and that you and your kind have reached the limits of your processing facility while sinking in he swamp of stupidity, if it was working at all. Judas1X: Stupido, the question is what would happen if God abandons or is not in control of this world AND YOU STUPIDLY CAME WITH YOUR PEEP-HOLE VISION TO STUPIDLY SAY IT WAS RELIGIOUS JIHAD. NOW YOU SEE YOU ARE A UNIVERSAL FOOL! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 11:44am On Sep 16, 2022 |
sonmvayina: My point is that it is your committee mad and stupid devils who attack me. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by chryssanthe(f): 12:00pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Lawag3:How do you know what your good claims to be? You don't, correct? Some other people told you. Some people wrote books. "Christianity" tells you. But actually you don't KNOW shit. You don't know what your god says or wants. You don't even know he exist What your do is to BELIEVE what others tell you, without much scrutiny. You are gullible 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:15pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
sonmvayina:YES! From the faithful and discreet slave Jesus talked about! Matthew 24:45 2 Likes |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 1:36pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Pipe down and stop hyperventilating like a monkey in heat. You wouldn't know a logical fallacy even if it shat on your face If you followed my argument like any normal thinking creature, you'll see I didn't base it on any actual ad populum argument. But I'm not surprised. Judging by your world outlook and grammar, you're just benefiting from the proliferation of the internet and data price cut. You should be selling goat meat in your village market and using the other hand to keep buzzing flies away My refutation was based solely on the inherent illogic of your post. The teleological argument (the argument from the design that you keep regurgitating, in the same manner your benighted mother keeps breeding illiterate moróns) is easily the most discredited argument for god(s) and rightly so because the flaws and fallacies in it are innumerable at least compared to other arguments for a creator. It is the easiest to debunk, and that's why it didn't surprise me that you'll find it impressive, because I know you're an unapologetic simpleton ......Sorry. I take that back. Calling you a simpleton is an understatement and underwhelming description of your maladaptive evolutionary growth Even the phone, television and car in your hand, (without the bible called Google) you did not know the science and nitty gritty involved in making them and you are a witness and present during their creation.What are blubbering about here nah . Nawa o. Indeed you are a maginified ignoramus. Listen fool, we already know phones and cars and TVs are created because we have seen how they're created, repeatedly. We can even observe a phone being created. We know how they function and we are aware of all the variables behind it's functionality. We are not even sure if the Earth was created. You keep assuming CREATION without actually proving it. Where were you when God was creating the universe, hmm? Have you ever created a planet, talk less of a universe? You only believe these ridiculous stories because you read it in your Holy Tales By Moonlight. You are a gullible sucker, and you got played by ancient goat herders. The closest you got near a formal education was your daddy's pigsty AND YET, YOU AND ALL OF US KNOW THAT THEY WERE CREATED BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A THING TO CREATE ITSELFSpeak for yourself clown, I don't assume that they are created simply "because it is impossible for something to create itself." What you did here is commit a STRAWMAN FALLACY. That's a claim you just manufactured out of your rear end and appended to me simply because your brain is too weak to pack a decent punch. Oya tell me, have you heard of RETROCAUSALITY? Hmm? Once again, DMumuSpeaker, reality is not your companion. If you like increase your font size by tens of million, it cannot cover the shadow of your ignorance and stupidity looming over the thread like a dark cloud. You're already getting emotional, ranting incoherent babble E don dey vex. Bwahahahahaha Your decayed flesh you call a brain would have told you that this is and all the other shits you shit is a deviation from post and that you and your kind have reached the limits of your processing facility while sinking in he swamp of stupidity, if it was working at all.How is it a deviation nah? You claimed there is a creator, no be so? So I'm now asking you how the "creator" came to be. And how do you know the universe was created? You people don't even realize how silly you sound. You are crying about deviation whereas you are the one dodging my questions left right centre . DMumuSpeaker you're neck-deep in frustration and buried in mud, there's nowhere down further for you to go. Nairaland is therapy for you. I'm your overdose! Kwaaaaaaaakwaaaaaakwaaaa! Stupido, the question is what would happen if God abandons or is not in control of this world AND YOU STUPIDLY CAME WITH YOUR PEEP-HOLE VISION TO STUPIDLY SAY IT WAS RELIGIOUS JIHAD.Hahahahahahaaaaa, DMumuSpeaker don start again ooo. Please learn how to read. You're all over the place, saying nonsense. The question asked what will happen if gods were disproven and people abandoned belief. Because of your tunnel vision, you may not be able see that the OP is treating god as a concept and not an actual being, like you do. First of all the OP didn't say "...If God abandons...". She said "...if the existence if god was definitely disproved...". Note the difference. Moving on, you claimed the world will be in anarchy without god, and I pointed out that even right now the world is suffering violence and anarchy even with the perceived "existence" of this god (note the word "existence" in quotations marks. I know you two bit per second memory brain can't decipher the difference between a real statement and a hypothetical statement). I showed you instances of societies where belief in god was rampant and yet crime rates were still high. I mentioned the evils of religious organizations who carry out crimes motivation by their beliefs the existence of a god. You had no response. All you had was tears and bitter rantings. Hahahaha. As a Lawyer running around with a Bible Studies degree, your life is still in limbo, as bleak as the prospect of your mother's ghost of resting in peace after being murdered for eloping with your own best friends with your father's yam proceeds. Bwahahahahaha hahahahaha You have been conquered again! Try harder next time Oponu. Blazing retárd. Howler monkey. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by sonmvayina(m): 1:51pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: But none of your post makes sense... Don't you think them through before posting? At least try and make sense of it,before trying to post it.. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Endtimer: 2:11pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
You ask an impossible question and plead that we ignore its impossibility for the sake of argument. I’m curious as to how science could disprove God. Contrary to common atheist folklore, science has spent the last century bringing us closer to belief in the supernatural. It’s a shame that there aren’t enough Christians aware of this to point it out often enough until it sticks. It’s a shame there aren’t enough Christians who know that science is on their side. As to your point concerning the difference between life with and without God: - Atheism is only tenable in a predominantly religious society. If we all began to live without belief in God as a result of some impossible scientific discovery, it would ultimately destroy society or lead back to religion. The reason for this is because atheists take for granted the religious pillars all civilized societies are built on; the concept of morality and legislation for instance go hand in hand. Rather than reorder society after the eradication of religion, atheists would need to continue pretending as though religion still had moral force in society; until someone asks: “why can’t I just do whatever I want”. In the end we’ll arrive at a religious society because atheistic society is unsustainable and humans are incurably religious. - On a personal, rather than sociological, level religion provides purpose for living. Atheism doesn’t. On atheism, suicide is not morally abhorrent. Western nations are beginning to witness the effects of unbelief as their citizens increasingly end their own lives. Let me ask you a question: would it make any difference if you were going to kill yourself today or tomorrow? On atheism, it certainly wouldn’t. On atheism, the fact that we are going to die one day is enough motivation for us to end our lives at once. Anything is enough motivation for us to end our lives. - Contrary to what many atheists believe, increasing secularism negatively correlates with happiness in society. While happiness isn’t the point of life, it is worth noting that the decline of religion has been accompanied by increased depression in the west. Note that none of the above is meant to validate the authenticity of religion. Instead it is to conceptualize the faithless society posited in the op. 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Lawag3: 2:34pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
chryssanthe: How do you know that Isaac Newton discovered the law of gravity how do you know that mungo park discovered the Niger river they was no video proof right you weren't there either. How do we know of Alexander the great he didn't write books about himself did he? Historians told you , you weren't there you don't know shit. People wrote books !!! You believe stories of Alexander that lived 300 - 250 before Jesus . I'm not saying that stories of Alexander isn't true but why do you believe them? |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by efficiencie(m): 3:32pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Tamaratonye1: If there is no God then what is the basis of morality? How do you define something good or evil? What makes stealing wrong in every culture? Can you answer that objectively without recourse to God or anything supernatural? If there is no God then what is the origin of order and regularity? If there is no God then all life must be random. Order cannot just bring itself into existence. Order requires intelligence. Just as you can never attribute a book to random events. So what is the origin of order? What is the origin of order in the cosmos and in physical reality? If there is no God where did all of existence come from? Where did matter, space and time originate from? If you say they came from nothing then please define "nothing"? The last question could easily take you forever to answer in a logically coherent manner. Only a fool assumes there is no God. The real question is "who is God and how can He or She or It be reached?" |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 3:58pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
sonmvayina: It is written "wisdom is too high for a fool". Wisdoml has always been very difficult for stupid to understand and stupid people are stupid that they even think wisdom is foolish. Example stupid people will always think that the way to wealth is to keep, whereas, Wisdom Says "Give"! Which of course stupid people say it is foolish! So you see, the Wise understandeth the fool but the fool never understands the Wise! If not that I believe that there are 1 or 2 people here who were like my former self seeking The Way, I would not be speaking here. I would continue concentration on using The Golden Sweet Words Wisdom hath Uttered in furtherance of my sweet living. I lose nothing meanwhile I have gained all. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 4:08pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:More gibberish from a religious lunatic. Where's the strikethrough feature when you need one? Abeg come carry this post to it's right designation. Dejected lunatic 1 Like
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Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:09pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
efficiencie: They do not real-eyes that if this House called the world belongs to God, then they have become unlawful occupants of it and are subject to be cast out and ejected. since no be dem get dis House! Thief-Thief! Dem wan claim House wey no be dia own! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:14pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: See Pain! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 4:17pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:See Delusions 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:25pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
chryssanthe: How do you know water is hot? Simple! You touch it. How do you know that your Chemistry textbook is correct? Ans: You carry out its instructions! How do you know that the Bible is Right and True? Simple thing, like your Chemistry textbook, YOU TEST IT OUT! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 4:32pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:DMumuSpeaker, stop making false and bogus equivocations. Water is not synonymous with an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient deity that cannot be proven to exist in reality. We know water exists. Where is your proof for god? Hmm? Another question you pitifully don't have an answer for. You can't even support your own weight by yourself. Weak-kneed idiot 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 4:40pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Emphasis on IF. Unfortunately for you and your fellow god freaks, your god cannot be found to exist anywhere,so your fevered imaginations have no basis in our present reality 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:43pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: You obviously just crawled out from your shit tank! Everyone here knows the atheist signage song. Judas1X: But as usual with you stinkton, you are so full of shit, from your shithole tank house that the only thing you see, smell and know is Shiiiit! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:50pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: my cars, laptops and JBL are in one of my houses, so of course when I am not near them they can never find me! . Simple common sense! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 4:58pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: I gave 2 examples of how we can ascertain something which we do not know and you dodged them only to complain that 'water is not synonymous with a deity? (even when I did not say such a thing! . You really have nothing valid to say! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 5:01pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:SMDHLMFAO! Look at your replies and look at the posts you're quoting. You have not addressed anything. I brought you down to hurling shit insults all over the thread . Bwahahahahahaaa. I don touch am today well well . I got you foaming in the mouth and blabbing incoherencies. You have become confusion personified DMumuSpeaker is crushed again. Kwaaaaaaakwaaaaakwaaaaa 1 Like |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by TheDictatorNd: 5:02pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Christianity is not the religion of the bible |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 5:06pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:You really have nothing more to offer. I actually thought you'd step up after I pointed it out the first time but you came back with same old bogus equivocations that have come to characterize your posts Are you Omniscient? Are you Omnipresent? Are you Omnipotent? You are none of the above. Just a frustrated clown arguing nonsensities on an online forum What a frustrated butthurt baby |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Judas1X: 5:10pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Says the defected ape who doesn't realize he's using false equivalence fallacies to make his points. Your analogies are flawed because they don't truly represent the subject of your position. I don't expect you to understand though. We are all well acquainted with your acute cognitive limitations |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 5:17pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: "Hurling shit insults all over the thread" when from the beginning of your post today till now you have been ejaculating very ticklish insults defiling this thread Beyond all doubts, you are insane to have not remembered this. I have definitely blown up your last morsel of sanity and you have none left. |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 5:20pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Judas1X: You Nothing to say! |
Re: Honest Question To The Christians by triplechoice(m): 5:26pm On Sep 16, 2022 |
Endtimer: At the emboldened, I thought I was the only one to noticed the deception. To make it worse, the op later displayed egocentric thinking in saying that millions of atheist round the world are enjoying fulfilling lives, while refusing to acknowledge the fact that millions, if not, billions of religious people around the world, are also enjoying the same . She never told us what makes for a self fulfilling live. One's belief or non belief in a deity is never an hindrance to living a live that is self fulfilling. In fact it has been demonstrated that those who practice some form of spirituality or the other enjoy a life that's self fulfilling than those who don't. Less stress and better health outcomes that prolongs life, having a greater sense of purpose and so on. Even though not subscribed to any religious belief; I practiced some form of spirituality, ( don't believe in any religious God or gods) the Op, to me, is not well thought out. 1 Like |
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