CountVersailles:

You must really be living in la-la land thinking that everyone was "struggling" in Nigeria before they left for Canada. So, apparently, it looks like you had a relatively comfortable life in Nigeria, but decided to emigrate nonetheless. In fact, una try. I wish you goodluck, because people like you na nostalgia no go make you think of how to better your life in a new country. You better dump that nostalgia and move on to actually differentiate yourself in a new society that doesn't care if you were earning big back in your home country.

let me add just for the sake of clarity that I wasn't "struggling" one bit in Nigeria before I moved. I was earning a very comfortable six-figure per month. Not per year, aunty. Per month. And thankfully, I'm also not "struggling" now. Still managing to save way more than I was earning per month back in Nigeria. But nostalgia didn't get me there. Neither did continual labouring over the thought that I was "enjoying" back in Nigeria.

The problem is that what many Nigerians consider 'enjoyment' is having little in the midst of poor folks so they can lord it over them. They'd rather be in a community where very few can afford cars than live in a country where having a car is seen as nothing.

They want to be able to employ fellow citizens as cooks, gatemen e.tc and pay them peanuts than live in a nation with good labour laws.
As far as they can afford private healthcare, they don't care if pregnant women are dying at home due to rundown state hospitals.

They want to enjoy the sight of millions of almajiris begging while their kids zoom off in air-conditioned cars.
Ask those who are talking about 'enjoyment' what they really mean by it and you'd be amazed

jedisco:


1/ I have lived in different parts of Nigeria including ABJ and different parts of UK including London. The post I quoted was berating the chap who said he moved to Newcastle from London. In UK, the smaller cities can many times be more liveable than London. In Nigeria, I'd get better roads, healthcare, security, education e.t.c in Abj than Plateau. It's mostly the opposite in the UK. One can comfortably send kids to state schools in many parts of SE & SW England as their schools of much better quality than London also with less knife crimes/drugs. Security, traffic e.t.c are better in smaller towns. The main advantage London offers for all is diversity.

2/ Talking about cost of living, take a step back and understand how developed nations are structured. The UK needs citizens to work and pay taxes so you don't have to rely on the government to survive. In Nigeria, you need to work to survive. That means the UK is structured in a way that for virtually most jobs, if you plan well, you'd lead a reasonable life.

3/ I used the word relatively cheap i.e affordable. When compared to the general income of others, I was in a higher earning bracket in Nigeria than the UK. Yet my pay for one day here will cover my feeding for a month with change. I wear branded items and I do not even consider what I spend on clothing as significant expenditure. My shoes last longer than I want them to and their cost price is hardly ever more than my pay for 1-2hrs (that is even when I don't target sales). I cannot say these for when I lived in Nigeria. If clothing was so cheap in Nigeria, why then are we importing old clothes from other nations?

First & foremost, my major concern is that when we speak about good parts of a certain country, we shouldn't berate others when they complain about the bad parts as well, there is freedom of speech to complain about things that affect you without people thinking you are trying to discourage them.

1/ Regarding your first point, I completely disagree with you. The road networks & tube networks in London are far more better than any other city. The bus transportation system is also far better. As far as I am concerned, there are better job opportunities there. Infact I know a lot of people who work remotely / hybrid from other cities with companies in London. The Nigerian community in London & any types of African communities are also larger. In terms of security, there are high crime prone areas & low crime prone areas. Those information are not hidden at all. You don't need a car AT ALL in London because buses get to every where, even midnights you can find your way with buses.

2/ Cost of living in the UK has risen a lot recently & a lot of energy bills & accommodation have doubled in the past 1 year, It is not hearsay. I am not complaining about this as this doesn't even me affect me.

3/ I don't understand why you or Nigerians compare their Abroad earnings to Nigerian earnings, you don't even live in Nigeria? So why are you comparing your pay for ONE DAY to cover feeding for a month in Nigeria, are your bills paid in Naira?

You are asking why we import clothes in Nigeria?! Does Nigeria produce clothes, apart from some industries in Aba where clothes are made, can the clothes produced in Nigeria be enough to cater for the demand of the population of Over 250 Million people?

This is why arguments online are sometimes pointless.

At the end of the day, to each his own. I believe if you can save 1000 pounds and above monthly & still live a good life in the Uk, then you're fine. I am tired of arguments abeg.

AstraDroid:


That is it. Just budget for utilities annually and allocate the cash to those accounts and you do not have to worry about them. People seem to prefer feeling sad about spending on fuel while wasting much on girls and frivolities.

A lot of European countries have a system where you do not have to pay extra for health unless when needed. That is the high tax you guys keep ranting about. But here in Nigeria, you will pay tax one way or the other and still budget or allocate some money for health check up you can do with making such budget or allocation.

truthsayer009:


First & foremost, my major concern is that when we speak about good parts of a certain country, we shouldn't berate others when they complain about the bad parts as well, there is freedom of speech to complain about things that affect you without people thinking you are trying to discourage them.

1/ Regarding your first point, I completely disagree with you. The road networks & tube networks in London are far more better than any other city. The bus transportation system is also far better. As far as I am concerned, there are better job opportunities there. Infact I know a lot of people who work remotely / hybrid from other cities with companies in London. The Nigerian community in London & any types of African communities are also larger. In terms of security, there are high crime prone areas & low crime prone areas. Those information are not hidden at all. You don't need a car AT ALL in London because buses get to every where, even midnights you can find your way with buses.

2/ Cost of living in the UK has risen a lot recently & a lot of energy bills & accommodation have doubled in the past 1 year, It is not hearsay. I am not complaining about this as this doesn't even me affect me.

3/ I don't understand why you or Nigerians compare their Abroad earnings to Nigerian earnings, you don't even live in Nigeria? So why are you comparing your pay for ONE DAY to cover feeding for a month in Nigeria, are your bills paid in Naira?

You are asking why we import clothes in Nigeria?! Does Nigeria produce clothes, apart from some industries in Aba where clothes are made, can the clothes produced in Nigeria be enough to cater for the demand of the population of Over 250 Million people?

This is why arguments online are sometimes pointless.

At the end of the day, to each his own. I believe if you can save 1000 pounds and above monthly & still live a good life in the Uk, then you're fine. I am tired of arguments abeg.

I doubt you have ever lived outside any major city in the UK. When you say the roads in London are better what exactly do you mean? In my town, I drive 20mins in any direction with little or no traffic. The busses are almost empty as most drive. Driving thru any major city in the UK is about the most inefficient means to travel. The reason why you have the tube e.t.c is to help decongest the roads. The roads in London are worst to drive on compared to any other part of the country. If I lived in London, I'd rather cycle than drive.

True, there are more job opportunities in any big city. Whereas, if you are in an established line of work, job opportunities mean less. What I'm more interested in is if the pay for my profession is higher in London than elsewhere. Answer is no. As a professional, I'd walk into any town in the UK and get a job. So 'job opportunities' mean little to me.

All the cry about cost of living in the UK is because inflation has risen to almost 10%. Let me ask, when was the last time inflation in Nigeria was 10%? Lol... if people in the UK are getting poorer by the day due to inflation, those in Nigeria are getting poorer by the minute. Can you tell me where accommodation has doubled in the past year?

Go read my post again. When I wrote on feeding, I said what I earn in the UK in one day will cover my cost of feeding for the month in the UK. Whereas, that proportion was much higher when I was living in Nigeria. In simple English, a much smaller percentage of earnings is spent on food in the UK that's why you dont have hungry children with plates begging for food in the UK. Food in any developed nation is extremely extremely cheap.

Regarding clothes, go to my post again. People buy clothes in the UK, wear them and discard. Those discarded clothes are taken to Nigeria and sold because the standard of living in Nigeria is much lower. How then can I say clothing in the UK is more expensive?
Like I always say, if you're working in the UK and you're worried about the cost of food and clothing, you need to ask yourself certain questions.


In all, every nation has it's good and bad sides. If you're a young intelligent professional with a legit means of travel, emigrating can be life changing

When you understand that what we call okrika in Nigeria are clothes that have been discarded elsewhere, then you start asking yourself certain questions.

Clothes are cheap in Nigeria but we're buying discarded clothes from other nations...

If you're in any developed nation and clothes are your problem, simply go to any Salvation Army collection centre or recycling site and they'd freely give you enough clothes to last a lifetime.

truthsayer009:


3/ I don't understand why you or Nigerians compare their Abroad earnings to Nigerian earnings, you don't even live in Nigeria? So why are you comparing your pay for ONE DAY to cover feeding for a month in Nigeria, are your bills paid in Naira?

You are asking why we import clothes in Nigeria?! Does Nigeria produce clothes, apart from some industries in Aba where clothes are made, can the clothes produced in Nigeria be enough to cater for the demand of the population of Over 250 Million people?

This is why arguments online are sometimes pointless.

At the end of the day, to each his own. I believe if you can save 1000 pounds and above monthly & still live a good life in the Uk, then you're fine. I am tired of arguments abeg.

This your number 3 point is really the catalyst for most Japas you know.
When they here the amount you earn in pounds or dollars, they do the calculation and then start dreaming about the kind of life they will live in nigeria.
You earn in pounds, you are working and staying in UK so why calculating in nairas?
If all people traveling out are to work, stay and live ever after in whichever country they find themselves without coming back, I can safely say 75% of them will only have a small house to show with 1 or 2 cars after 20/25 years of rigorous hustling.
The only succor they have is that regular converting to naira as a hope they will meet up.

yusfaith78:


I have been on Nairaland long enough to know that some people will sleep and have a dream that they have a good job and big money then they will wake up and come online to brag about what they actually don’t have. I just ignore them. To prove my point look at this one that has been condemning people that relocate to the UK.

I talk am!!!!!!!

The people who are against Nigerians from emigrating fall into three groups:

- Those who wished to japa but for some reasons couldn't.
- Deportees
- Nigerians who hold passports of developed countries are envious that other Nigerians are emigrating. These ones are very wicked in real life.

OP falls into the first category. Envious riff-raffs!

Munamoqel! Come and see your hypocritical yansh shown to the world!!!!

yusfaith78:


I have been on Nairaland long enough to know that some people will sleep and have a dream that they have a good job and big money then they will wake up and come online to brag about what they actually don’t have. I just ignore them. To prove my point look at this one that has been condemning people that relocate to the UK.

hahahaha there was a caught

Gerrard59:



I talk am!!!!!!!

The people who are against Nigerians from emigrating fall into two groups:

- Those who wished to japa but for some reasons couldn't.
- Deportees
- Nigerians who hold passports of developed countries are envious that other Nigerians are emigrating. These ones are very wicked in real life.

OP falls into the first category. Envious riff-raffs!

Munamoqel! Come and see your hypocritical yansh shown to the world!!!!

didn't even see this before. We will be here to knock their coconut heads. One was coming for me yesterday meanwhile he had tried canada and failed before

yusfaith78:



You can just imagine the hypocrisy. He wishes to go to the UK on Student Visa and he uses all day to condemn the idea. Sick people everywhere

Don't mind the donkey.
He think say people no dey see him sh!t everywhere for here.
Hypocritical MF.

Gerrard59:



I talk am!!!!!!!

The people who are against Nigerians from emigrating fall into three groups:

- Those who wished to japa but for some reasons couldn't.
- Deportees
- Nigerians who hold passports of developed countries are envious that other Nigerians are emigrating. These ones are very wicked in real life.

OP falls into the first category. Envious riff-raffs!

Munamoqel! Come and see your hypocritical yansh shown to the world!!!!

Drag him by his B@lls.
That's if he has got any, cos he is always riding on JAPA crew's d!ck

9japride:
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Nice response. The guy should calm down. Majority of people in our society are hypocrites and love to mislead people. Even those supporting their various political candidates are doing so to gather enough money to japa. People that always discourages others from traveling out are either gainfully employed in government organisations, multinational companies or bad belle people. If they love to discourage people, why can't they provide financial support to the people they are discouraging? Normally if not for the rush to escape poverty, one shouldn't even think of middle East and some Asia countries. The guy should be humble and when he eventually get he's own visa to travel out he will laugh at himself for trolling others mischievously.

Them no dey tell this one
Na why all embassies dey serve m Breakfast cos he is filled with Envy.

ThisPower:
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Drag him by his B@lls.
That's if he has got any, cos he is always riding on JAPA crew's d!ck

see one japa guy learning the Hard way !!!!!allysontaiwo:
Hello everyone I am exhausted. Arrived this UK 2weeks ago and yet to get accommodation . No credit score,No employment history,then just pack all of us for student status quo. Left the Airbnb today to the hotel at Travelodge . Who can help me
All this landlords aren’t smiling
We propose 6months dem no gree
All asking to Sign a year contract with a full pay at £1200-£1400�
I am at Gate House, Fretherne Rd, Welwyn Garden City AL8 6RD
Travelodge Welwyn Garden City
If I see 2bedroom now am ready to pay 6M upfront
I need all the help I can get
Am studying at University of Hertsfordshire (MSc

Uk oyinbo na criminals scamming and milking Africans steady ! You give 36000 japa visa from Nigeria alone so where this population go stay.you are having housing shortage in the uk but enticing Nigerians to resign their good jobs , sell all their properties and collect loan so you can milk the via several well package schemes. English test ,Visa ,tution deposit,PSw ,IHS ,flight tickets ,paid mail ,paid calls , airport taxi ( this classic scam to revive their economy) then now you are pass to uk landlord to continue the scamming rackets by demanding 1 rent like say UK citizens can pay such .they pass you to hotel back To Anbnb . Na now you Japa head go reset ! And the Euphoria go vanish

ThisPower:


Them no dey tell this one
Na why all embassies dey serve m Breakfast cos he is filled with Envy.

envy people are struggling to buy automatic car .that yapa for Najia insurance premium dey fear them see another japa crew may sold him nice venza automatic now cant buy a car in the uk Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Akorkor(f): 3:15am On Sep 16
I am just wondering why automatic car is so expensive in the Uk. The price difference between auto and manual is just so annoying.

Is there any other site apart from gumtree, FB market place to still compare prices?

Munamoqel:
see one japa guy learning the Hard way !!!!!allysontaiwo:
Hello everyone I am exhausted. Arrived this UK 2weeks ago and yet to get accommodation . No credit score,No employment history,then just pack all of us for student status quo. Left the Airbnb today to the hotel at Travelodge . Who can help me
All this landlords aren’t smiling
We propose 6months dem no gree
All asking to Sign a year contract with a full pay at £1200-£1400�
I am at Gate House, Fretherne Rd, Welwyn Garden City AL8 6RD
Travelodge Welwyn Garden City
If I see 2bedroom now am ready to pay 6M upfront
I need all the help I can get
Am studying at University of Hertsfordshire (MSc

You will surely pass through dome hurdles in a new country as a foreigner but it will become history.

This thread should only be for those that doesn't have means to japa to console themselves but if you have the means please do.

ThisPower:


Them no dey tell this one
Na why all embassies dey serve m Breakfast cos he is filled with Envy.

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I weak for some people, one should be happy that people are japa successful, so one day make the blessings reach am. Life is all about risk, if one remain in he's/her confort zone, the goodies on the other side wouldn't be experienced.

i am in love with your personality already, Nice responses all through, some only see life through their myopic lens.

sisisioge:


Thank you....its no imagination. Jacket bought already abi you want the label too? Whew! Good afternoon biko!

AstraDroid:


At what age will you return back to your country with your family?

You are an economic migrant, and you should be focused on how to grow generational wealth instead of having a pleasant life time while your kids will continue the 9-5.

I believe an average African should be planning 2 generations ahead. I do not see Europeans and Americans trooping enmasse out of their countries to Africa because of flu. You seem to be excited about escaping the harsh environment instead of feeling sad that you couldnt change it for good.

You are designed to conquer your environment and improve the Gene Programming of your Ancestors while evolving with the environment.

Dont be selfish.

Lol. Someone is on nairaland screaming generational wealth but don't have upto 100k in their account, living in a face me I face you apartment. Did the writer tell you he wants to accumulate generational wealth? Here is he talking about gene programming. Lol. There are alot of clowns on here.

Munamoqel:
Nigerians that sold everything and resign from their Good jobs to relocate to paradise Uk ,New Zealand ,Canada are learning the Hard way ! There are no perfect place .UK has excellent NHS but accessing it is now a nighmare .you can wait Months trying to see a dentist or a GP . And a simple thing like root canal surgery done within a day in Nigeria at 50k cost almost 1500 pounds in the Uk . There is housing shortage and getting house to rent is now a Nightmare with you money some.are paying 600 euro in Dublin to share room not house with unknown propel ! Gas and electricity cost around 4000 pounds per year and you literally live paycheck to paycheck if not careful and there are no shortcut pay for heating or die in the winter ! Houses in New Zealand cost 400k pounds are nonsense 2 bedroom.with no garages and garden while this sum can land you a deplux in banana island , Asokoro with pool and garden .in the uk there are there are few investment opportunities unlike Nigeria where you can easy setup.we pray for.better Nigeria that truly ours !

For every Nigerian genuinely working hard would make it. There are alot of Nigerians making it all over the world but envy won't let you post their story. Nigeria is a dead country, it is a dump,a lawless society, a place only suitable for wild life. It is what it is. I left Nigeria years ago, and that's one of the best decision iv ever made.

In this same Nigeria that we are in.

Earning 600k and saving 500k?
How many single people can actually boast of earning 600k per month in Nigeria? I believe you have not been to Nigeria for a long time and you do not have a clear picture of how things are in Nigeria.

I know you are trying to let people know how things are in Canade, but you people should stop "romaticizing" Nigeria, if you were able to save like that when you were in Nigeria, you wouldn't have left.

sisisioge:
There is really no place like home but they have made Nigeria grossly insecure and unlivable. In naija, a single girl earning 600k can easily save 500k without hassle, in Canada, 600k is about 1200CAD which is like 1/3 of your monthly earning. Yet, you can not save beyond 200 CAD per month because of bills! There is really no place like home....may God rid Nigerian of evil politicians and people ruining the country. Let there be a new Nigeria!

Bibitayo2:
In this same Nigeria that we are in.

Earning 600k and saving 500k?
How many single people can actually boast of earning 600k per month in Nigeria? I believe you have not been to Nigeria for a long time and you do not have a clear picture of how things are in Nigeria.

I know you are trying to let people know how things are in Canade, but you people should stop "romaticizing" Nigeria, if you were able to save like that when you were in Nigeria, you wouldn't have left.

First set said I was fantasizing about being in Canada, second set said I haven't been in naija in a while. Honestly, I prefer to kuku be in Mexico sef. Couldn't resist answering fa but for real, enough on this matter. Cheers.

part 2) by Itsrm(m): 7:28pm On Sep 18
darknessbegone:


This is the problem I have with a lot of students going to study in the UK. For example, I know for a fact in my class, more than 70% of them can’t get a job with the degree because they have no idea of what they are studying. It infuriates me a lot.

And when I ask them why this course, didn’t you check it out before applying, are you telling me you didn’t go through the course modules explained in details on the university website before applying? They take it really really personal.

Imagine a class where almost 50% are having one resit or the other in just a semester, and then some resitting three to four modules in one semester.

It really touches my soul because I have no idea what they will do after the course after spending so much money to get degree that they can’t use. Na reversed Japa straight like in 2011 people spent 15k pounds only to return back to Najia oyinbo na smooth criminals

Munamoqel:
na poor people dey talk of job and job . Exporting steady .dey here

Sir, I need a Job urgently, I hold a first degree in psychology, I’m a fast learner.... I’m based in Lagos…….God bless you..

yommysure:



Sir, I need a Job urgently, I hold a first degree in psychology, I’m a fast learner.... I’m based in Lagos…….God bless you..

we are not into health .

Uk na the tuition fees by their Target . End of japa for this client .I pray he have not sold everything he own in najia just to snap pictures

Munamoqel:
envy people are struggling to buy automatic car .that yapa for Najia insurance premium dey fear them see another japa crew may sold him nice venza automatic now cant buy a car in the uk Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Akorkor(f): 3:15am On Sep 16
I am just wondering why automatic car is so expensive in the Uk. The price difference between auto and manual is just so annoying.

Is there any other site apart from gumtree, FB market place to still compare prices?

I am wondering why you are quoting me? FYI, I already have a car and I am considering to get a new one. That is why I am asking if there is another way to get something cheaper than what I have

Munamoqel:
the topic is for persons doing well in Nigeria and belong to certain class in society and not some low lifes raising chicks for survival .) (Report) 1 Like (Like) (Share)

Agriculture / Re: Please What’s The Cost Of Raising 200 Broilers? by SouthCaroliina: 8:13am On Aug 24
Hallams:
It all depends on your target size. But you

Funny how u guys enjoy digging out old posts

yusfaith78:


Thanks…… I’m old enough to know who to argue with. I just feel like I should share my experience for those that might need information. I noticed most people that condemned migrating to US, UK or any other western countries are those that have never actually lived there. I believe in giving correct information

Thanks for the experience shared.

emmaodet:


This your number 3 point is really the catalyst for most Japas you know.
When they here the amount you earn in pounds or dollars, they do the calculation and then start dreaming about the kind of life they will live in nigeria.
You earn in pounds, you are working and staying in UK so why calculating in nairas?
If all people traveling out are to work, stay and live ever after in whichever country they find themselves without coming back, I can safely say 75% of them will only have a small house to show with 1 or 2 cars after 20/25 years of rigorous hustling.
The only succor they have is that regular converting to naira as a hope they will meet up.

guy you couldn't have said it any better. I asked a question on one Canada thread a few days ago, make all the noisemakers mention assets owned and fully paid for for the duration of their time in Canada. Na radio silence I get o. Same people always bragging about making 20million naira per month after their wuruwuru conversion now suddenly felt keeping whatever they have to show for their years in Canny or elsewhere private. They don't understand that the only basis for their slight upper hand in recent years is the dwindling naira. I bought a 1000usd watch in 2014 just for fun and I wasn't earning 500k. I brought in scanners worth 4000usd and shipped with DHL another 800usd in that same year. And one person prolly using a car that cost 3k USD with no shipping and clearing costs wan buga me wey get two fully paid for with shipping and clearing, and in my own house also fully paid for, however small it is. Most of them no get NADA to their name. Maybe a few have the balls to take a mortgage lobatan. Before most of these noisemakers strike gold, some still stay upwards of 15-20years. Do they know what I can achieve here in 15-20years. It is the arrogance for me, all of a sudden you are better, richer and wiser now simply cos you stepped foot in another country. Lol. We know naija has its issues and there are valid reason to japa, but please enough with the 'noise and no show' most times. Like say we no get friends wey don dey these countries up to 10years, most of which don't OWN the things we own, at least as at now. Abeg.

9japride:
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I weak for some people, one should be happy that people are japa successful, so one day make the blessings reach am. Life is all about risk, if one remain in he's/her confort zone, the goodies on the other side wouldn't be experienced.

your opinion. But you lot are missing the point of all this. Even fellow Christians like I am. So your blessings are only in another man's land? Ppl get a visa and do Thanksgiving? You lot don't see that there is a mental anomaly going on here. God does have a diff plan for everyone. For some, it is God's plan to move outside the shores of your country, but for most it is our own plan which comes from a very deep-seated place of inadequacy or inferiority. Like you legit believe you are not blessed and God hasn't answered your prayer until you go to the white man's land. One thing this thread and the many like it have proven is that the white man will always be superior. Pre or post colonization, even if there is a reset of the world today, the white man is and will always be 10x superior to the black man, EXCEPT ME sha. It is sad, really sad. I'm looking into start-up visas, due to the fact that the infrastructure to support my brain-child isn't yet available or firmly rooted in Nigeria. If that doesn't work, that's it. I ain't never gonna sell all I have built up here to get on a ship to the white man's land to hustle. My forefathers already did that.