OkCornel:


So why is Jacob's trouble in verse 16, preceding the great tribulation in verse 21 as Jesus outlined the sequence of events?
Are you telling us Jesus is wrong?
Do you also recall why the Gentiles would trample on the holy city for 42 months (i.e. 3.5 years) according to Revelation 11 v 3?

Are you connecting the dots?

OkCornel:


The 144,000 witnesses set apart to do God's work in the last days.

The saved Jews (dead and alive) are definitely more than that number. But these ones are set apart for a special assignment.

OkCornel:


Bros, you have not answered my question. You insist it's a spiritual temple, so please answer these questions based on what Revelation 11 v 1-3 states.

Can you explain
A. what a "spiritual temple" is doing in a HOLY CITY?
B. What is the name of the Holy City that the gentiles would trample on? Where is it located?

Answer these questions and let's see how the "spiritual temple" context will hold up.

Gospel2Day:


See if you want proper and accurate understanding of what Jesus said and meant, listen to what Apostle Paul taught.
This is because Jesus' ministry and teaching happened prior to the inauguration or launch of the Church Age.
In many instances in His teaching He was combining both messages to Jews and to the church he intended to build, but while He had not built.
This is why you're confusing things.
Paul was sent to Gentile Christians particularly.
Study his teaching and interpretation of what Jesus taught and you will be cured of your misunderstanding.
In 2 Thessalonians chapters 2, Paul reveals that the Antichrist would not appear until the Rapture of the church, which hinders his revelation.

kingyakos:





Bros, abeg it's not the Gentiles that will trample on the Holy City which is Jerusalem, it's the Israelites. It's after they trample on the Holy City "Jerusalem" then comes the two witnesses Moses and Elijah to preach to the Israelites the message of Christ.

Revelation 11: 1-3 isn't for the Gentiles, it's for the Jews.

Let me put it this way maybe you will have a clue.... The Jews were veiled for the Gentiles to receive Christ and Revelation 11:1-3 tells how they will be unveiled by the two witnesses coming with the message of Christ.

OkCornel:


In Matthew 24, Jesus was referring to all his followers, be they Jews or Gentiles. Going by his reference to the time of Jacob's trouble in verse 16, and the great tribulation in verse 21. So I don't where y'all are getting this Jew Gentile theory from.

On 2 Thessalonians 2, read verse 1-4 carefully. Apostle Paul clearly mentioned the church would not be gathered unto Christ unto the man of lawlessness is revealed.

And don't even tell me the church is the restrainer.

The restrainer was already identified in the book of Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 v 7-17

kingyakos:





Bros, abeg it's not the Gentiles that will trample on the Holy City which is Jerusalem, it's the Israelites. It's after they trample on the Holy City "Jerusalem" then comes the two witnesses Moses and Elijah to preach to the Israelites the message of Christ.

Revelation 11: 1-3 isn't for the Gentiles, it's for the Jews.

Let me put it this way maybe you will have a clue.... The Jews were veiled for the Gentiles to receive Christ and Revelation 11:1-3 tells how they will be unveiled by the two witnesses coming with the message of Christ.

Gospel2Day:


Can you please give a face and a name to the restrainer?
Just name it/him/her.

Gospel2Day:


Are these witnesses Jews or Gentiles?
If Jews, where is the church at this point in time?
Or did God dump the church to give special assignment to Jews?
Does this not suggest to you that the church is no longer on earth at this time?

OkCornel:


Read Revelation 11 v 2 and tell me who will trample on the holy city;
But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months

kingyakos:




Can't you see the full stop symbol after the word Gentiles has been mention?...

Ask yourself this question, where is the Holy City located on earth?

Will the Gentiles go to the Holy City which is in Jerusalem to trample?

These are simple question you should ask yourself so you don't get confused.

Solomon has told you in proverbs 3:5 that you should trust not, lean not in your own understanding of the things of God.

OkCornel:


Angel Michael. The warrior angel, who has always conflicted and restrained the devil or dark principalities wherever he's mentioned in the scriptures.

Read Revelation 12 v 7-17. After the devil and his angels are kicked out of heaven, you see the great tribulation taking shape in the latter part of Revelation 12 and in Revelation 13.

It correlates with Daniel 12 v 1.

Cc: Jokerman, SeraphEl

OkCornel:
Until the temple is rebuilt for Daniel 9 v 27 & Revelation 11 v 1-3 to kickoff the final week of the 70 weeks prophecy, Jesus is not coming back.

Take that to the bank.

Nothing is happening.

OkCornel:


The 144,000 are Jews as you can see in the Revelation 7

The church is right there in the book of revelation. The global church is referred to as "Those who hold onto the testimony of Jesus" in the book of revelation.

Care for more evidences?

falcon01:
She's old and death is expected

GeneralOjukwu:
Nonsense. He wouldn't ever see when Nigeria will be better.

Na to see when 90 years+ old woman go die.

Gospel2Day:


Haba, my brother!
Don't let these white men deceive and derail you.
I knew all along that you're referencing some books written by whites, which you revere as incapable of being wrong.
Didn't you read the place in John chapter 7, where Jesus said the Spirit could not be given or come yet because the Son of God was not yet glorified, that is, resurrected and returned to the Father in heaven?
Same way, the Antichrist CANNOT freely work on the earth, except and unless the Church, which is the Body of Christ on earth is removed from the earth via Rapture.
Michael has being the guardian angel of the Jews ever since, as Daniel 12 states.

Gospel2Day:


Did you notice in the same chapter 7 : 9 - 17 of Revelation that as at the time of sealing the 144,000 Jews, the Church is already in heaven?

OkCornel:


Smh....who is the pronoun "THEY" referring to? Was another subject introduced to after the full stop?

This is basic understanding of English & Literature nau... It is referring to the gentiles. No mental gymnastics required.

kingyakos:




Exclude the outer court, do not measure it for it has been given to the Gentiles.

That chapter alone should let you understand that the Gentiles has been measured out and the prophesy is not referring to them, it's referring to where the Holy City is located.

Let me ask you a question. Is the Holy City located in the Gentile area?

Leonbonapart:

Leobonapart to his useless homosexual father
you're a failure

OkCornel:


You haven't answered my question. Is this a physical temple? or a spiritual temple. In the context of this scripture.

kingyakos:



Before i answer you. Have you come to the understanding that revelation 11: 1-3 is for the Jews and not for the Gentiles?...

Gospel2Day:


Did you notice in the same chapter 7 : 9 - 17 of Revelation that as at the time of sealing the 144,000 Jews, the Church is already in heaven?

OkCornel:


Smh...

Show me where the church was raptured to heaven before the great tribulation in the book of Revelation.
I'm patiently waiting.

OkCornel:


It doesn't work that way. We close off on one subject matter before moving to another in an orderly manner.

Is Revelation 11 v 1-3 referring to a physical temple sited in a holy city? Yes or No.

Maxxim:

I can't blame your ignorance, that's twitter platform bah?

Gospel2Day:


Why will an angel flying in heaven be the preacher against taking the mark of the Beast, and why will the 144k sealed Jews be given special assignment, if the church is still on earth at the time?
You need to develop your deductive reasoning capability more.
Shalom.

kingyakos:




What is the temple of God, which temple do God dwells?..