If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

I put it to you that the pagan god knows that they will eventually eat the fruit

Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

Gromilla010:
If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Is it not His Right?

Gromilla010:

Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

If men had defeated Satan would we not be feeling glorious and powerful that we have even beaten that bastard.

Gromilla010:

Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

When your champion disappoints you would you not curse him?

Gromilla010:

If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

You did the same. That is what you call robots! And you do not value or bless your robots.

Gromilla010:

Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

They knew one good, obey God and one evil , disobey God.

I think it does make sense.

Evidence shows that some are created in God's image to rule and subdue and dominate and be blessed, while some are created naked from mud to slave in the Garden of Eden and not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for fear that they will die.

Thankfully, there's also a certain unbelieving Eve who used her own senses to check if she would die if she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil only to find it good for food and for opening eyes and for gaining wisdom and for freeing from slavery in Eden from where she went in to be self employed and populated the earth with humans who are now on the way to rule over and subdue and dominate the moon and Mars.

The question then becomes, are you created in God's Image or are you descendants of stupid ignorant Adam, or at least use her own senses Eve?

Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

20 Have respect unto the covenant: for the dark places of the earth are full of the habitations of cruelty.

22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish reproacheth thee all the day.

Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.

23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.

24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.

2 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.

27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness.

28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Dtruthspeaker:


Is it not His Right?



If men had defeated Satan would we not be feeling glorious and powerful that we have even beaten that bastard.



When your champion disappoints you would you not curse him?



You did the same. That is what you call robots! And you do not value or bless your robots.



They knew one good, obey God and one evil , disobey God.

if it was his right that means he did it on purpose for his zombies to fall to his trap. So he shouldn't have regretted ever creating man if he is all knowing.

that simply states the fact that the fictitious 'devil' does not exist.

I am a human, I am not all knowing, all powerful, omniprescence, omnipotent or omniscience.The ways of man is not the way of the gods.
That simply means the myth of adam and eve is a man-made ideology it never happened in reality.

You can't curse a robot because the robot is an idiot machine....they act based on what they are told
You curse the imaginary devil for controlling the mindset of your robots.

This is where you failed woefully, according to the bible god told them not to eat of the fruit of good and evil. Simply means they don't know what is good and evil. It was an information that was heard that wasn't processed because they couldn't discern what was good from evil. So at that point in time they were a day old babies.
Why curse babies when he could have killed the grown adult man?....it doesn't make sense.

Dtruthspeaker:
Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

20 Have respect unto the covenant: for the dark places of the earth are full of the habitations of cruelty.

22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish reproacheth thee all the day.

are you okay?
How does this bible verses answer my questions?

Then write the one of your father and mother that will make sense naa...

Gromilla010:
if it was his right that means he did it on purpose for his zombies to fall to his trap. So he shouldn't have regretted ever creating man if he is all knowing.

Of course evils like you would not see that it is for them to show how great and mighty they had made that they can not be dominated by the fruit. Eg Like when we live our wine in the freezer and our children did not drink it according to our instruction. What wonderful and sweet children.

Gromilla010:

that simply states the fact that the fictitious 'devil' does not exist.

Now senseless talk has begun.

Gromilla010:

I am a human, I am not all knowing, all powerful, omniprescence, omnipotent or omniscience.

And you knew that when your father said don't drink from my wine cabinet, you knew trouble waited for you if you disobeyed. So you have no excuse.

Gromilla010:

That simply means the myth of adam and eve is a man-made ideology it never happened in reality.

Your wish!

Gromilla010:

You can't curse a robot because the robot is an idiot machine....they act based on what they are told

You asked that God should have made men robots!

Gromilla010:

This is where you failed woefully, according to the bible god told them not to eat of the fruit of good and evil. Simply means they don't know what is good and evil.

And this is where your intelligence stops for clearly they understood (where you did not understand) obedience (good) and disobedience (evil) and death (evil) and life (good).

Gromilla010:

Why curse babies when he could have killed the grown adult man?....it doesn't make sense.

Where did God curse babies? Ehn.

See, Bible is not by force. You can live your life without it.

Gromilla010:

If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Many people also wonder why all these things are so but then what you need is a Bible study to understand what the tree symbolises.
Adam and Eve were the first human couple as the book says so they're free to do whatever they like as God has given them authority over all the creatures on the planet but they must not think of setting standards for the next generation of humans rather all humans must rely on what God says regarding right and wrong. That is what the tree in that garden symbolises.
Any attempt by man to set standards for other humans is tantamount to making the one setting such standard a God. So Adam and Eve chose to turn against their Creator and then become gods over other humans so that they will be the ones dictating what should be called right and wrong. Genesis 3:4-5
Today what Adam and Eve has been modernized so it's now called POLITICS .
That's what God warned them against because with politics mankind will continue to target self extinction on planet earth! Genesis 2:17

Thanks!

budaatum:
I think it does make sense.

Evidence shows that some are created in God's image to rule and subdue and dominate and be blessed, while some are created naked from mud to slave in the Garden of Eden and not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for fear that they will die.

Thankfully, there's also a certain unbelieving Eve who used her own senses to check if she would die if she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil only to find it good for food and for opening eyes and for gaining wisdom and for freeing from slavery in Eden from where she went in to be self employed and populated the earth with humans who are now on the way to rule over and subdue and dominate the moon and Mars.

The question then becomes, are you created in God's Image or are you descendants of stupid ignorant Adam, or at least use her own senses Eve?

you still haven't proven how it makes sense you are beating about the bush!!!

So how does this your statement make sense
Because according to the bible both adam and eve ate the fruit of good and evil....So what did you mean that some were created naked to not eat the fruit of good of evil for fear of death?
If some were created in gods image then who created the others?

So you now agree that the devil does not exist.
I really did agree with you on this aspect since eve was a 2day old baby who actually doesn't know what is good and evil decided to taste the content of that fruit to know the outcome.
Based on your assumption it could be possible that adam didn't have a taste of that fruit.
Or eve prevented him from eating of that fruit of good and evil so she could use her knowledge to subdue and Dominate adam.

Gromilla010:
are you okay?
How does this bible verses answer my questions?

I have answered your question. This is, ...

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Gromilla010:
If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

I put it to you that the pagan god knows that they will eventually eat the fruit

Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

You abomination again.. You're trying to discredit the holy bible this time around to pass your satanist ideas of lgbt if i was a God i will put your kind in the hottest part of hell along with serial killers and ritualist


Now to your abominable community here is the answer


Do you tell a novelist how to write his frictional
Novel

Do you tell a programmer how to script is Web page

If you don't like any of their works don't patronize them simple you're an entity and life has been scripted for you already to be condemn by the angry mobs, try going against your destined fate let's see...


The fact is you can keep hating on all the Gods and even the Christian God the truth remains

You didn't ask to be born and you never had to choice to die... If you choose not follow any religion its your choice but don't rubbish anybody religion because you want to pass your satanist message of lgbtq abominable act

The truth is they are forces beyond your control either bow to one or bow to all or even bow to non but then respect people's religion.....

Dtruthspeaker:


Of course evils like you would not see that it is for them to show how great and mighty they had made that they can not be dominated by the fruit. Eg Like when we live our wine in the freezer and our children did not drink it according to our instruction. What wonderful and sweet children.



Now senseless talk has begun.



And you knew that when your father said don't drink from my wine cabinet, you knew trouble waited for you if you disobeyed. So you have no excuse.



Your wish!



You asked that God should have made men robots!



And this is where your intelligence stops for clearly they understood (where you did not understand) obedience (good) and disobedience (evil) and death (evil) and life (good).



Where did God curse babies? Ehn.

See, Bible is not by force. You can live your life without it.

you are not making sense but beating around the bush.
Can you tell a 10days old baby not to drink an acid close to him that if he does so he would die?
If you can tell him that believing he knows what is good and evil at that very young age then you are stupid.
And also it you keep the acid at the first place close to the baby then you are also stupid.

You couldn't counter me on that because you have nothing reasonable to say.
So I am very much correct in that aspect.

I never asked such, you sound delusional

For it seems that Stupidity rules your world
If you claim that they know what is good and evil so why is god commanding them not to eat of the tree of good and evil?

You just can't counter me because you have nothing reasonable to say.
If you have a 2day old baby and a grown man asked him to take a sip of acid and the baby ignorantly took the sip not knowing of what he is sipping.
Would you punish your little child or would you punish the man or would you punish both of them?

Thebadpolitican:



You abomination again.. You're trying to discredit the holy bible this time around to pass your satanist ideas of lgbt if i was a God i will put your kind in the hottest part of hell along with serial killers and ritualist


Now to your abominable community here is the answer


Do you tell a novelist how to write his frictional
Novel

Do you tell a programmer how to script is Web page

If you don't like any of their works don't patronize them simple you're an entity and life has been scripted for you already to be condemn by the angry mobs, try going against your destined fate let's see...


The fact is you can keep hating on all the Gods and even the Christian God the truth remains

You didn't ask to be born and you never had to choice to die... If you choose not follow any religion its your choice but don't rubbish anybody religion because you want to pass your satanist message of lgbtq abominable act

The truth is they are forces beyond your control either bow to one or bow to all or even bow to non but then respect people's religion.....

As prophecied the more they suffer the more blasphemies they shall speak until their calamities utterly destroy them.

Gromilla010:
you are not making sense but beating around the bush.
Can you tell a 10days old baby not to drink an acid close to him that if he does so he would die?

A 10day old baby does not say "ah, woman" or gives names to things nor knows obedience nor how to blame another person for his actions and mistakes.

So, nothing for you.

The Bible is not for you.

Simple.. God Almighty wanted willful obedient creations for all high intelligent creations of his such as Angels and Humans. As such, He gave a room for temptation. This is a mystery you may find difficult to fathom.

Mystery9:
Simple.. God Almighty wanted willful obedient creations for all high intelligent creations of his such as Angels and Humans. As such, He gave a room for temptation. This is a mystery that you may find difficult to fathom.

The Bible is not for everyone especially in these last horrible days!

As The Lord hath Spoken it shall never be well for the anti-God (atheists/satanist) and the ungodly.

MaxInDHouse:


Many people also wonder why all these things are so but then what you need is a Bible study to understand what the tree symbolises.
Adam and Eve were the first human couple as the book says so they're free to do whatever they like as God has given them authority over all the creatures on the planet but they must not think of setting
standards for the next generation of humans rather all humans must rely on what God says regarding right and wrong. That is what the tree in that garden symbolises.
Any attempt by man to set standards for other humans is tantamount to making the one setting such standard a God. So Adam and Eve chose to turn against their Creator and then become gods over other humans so that they will be the ones dictating what should be called right and wrong. Genesis 3:4-5
Today what Adam and Eve has been modernized so it's now called POLITICS .
That's what God warned them against because with politics mankind will continue to target self extinction on planet earth! Genesis 2:17

Thanks!

Powerful revelation. Thanks.

Dtruthspeaker:


The Bible is not for everyone especially in these last horrible days!

I tell you sir. Some people can't just get it.

MaxInDHouse:


Many people also wonder why all these things are so but then what you need is a Bible study to understand what the tree symbolises.
Adam and Eve were the first human couple as the book says so they're free to do whatever they like as God has given them authority over all the creatures on the planet but they must not think of setting standards for the next generation of humans rather all humans must rely on what God says regarding right and wrong. That is what the tree in that garden symbolises.
Any attempt by man to set standards for other humans is tantamount to making the one setting such standard a God. So Adam and Eve chose to turn against their Creator and then become gods over other humans so that they will be the ones dictating what should be called right and wrong. Genesis 3:4-5
Today what Adam and Eve has been modernized so it's now called POLITICS .
That's what God warned them against because with politics mankind will continue to target self extinction on planet earth! Genesis 2:17

Thanks!

"but they must not think of setting standards for the next generation of humans rather all humans must rely on what God says regarding right and wrong.
That is what the tree in that garden symbolises.
Any attempt by man to set standards for other humans is tantamount to making the one setting such standard a God".
You have actually contradicted yourself based on your opinion above.
If one shouldn't set a standard for human then you have no right to preach your fictitious bible to those who aren't interested in your stupid religious beliefs which I find very awkward

If adam and eve chose to turn against their creator then the god of the bible is not all knowing, omniprescent, ominiscience, omnipotent and all-powerful.
Infact he shouldn't be called a "god"

Mystery9:

I tell you sir. Some people can't just get it.

They don't know that it was prophecied that the ungodly shall be cut off (rapture) even before they perish.

So all they are doing is to show that indeed The Word of The Lord is being fulfilled in our days and we are the witnesses of it today.

Mystery9:

I tell you sir. Some people can't just get it.

two of you are religious zombies

Gromilla010:
two of you are religious zombies

When The Debate Is Lost, Slander Becomes The Tool Of The Loser

Dtruthspeaker:


They don't know that it was prophecied that the ungodly shall be cut off (rapture) even before they perish.

who prophecied what?
If you believe that heaven and hell is real then you are an idiot.

We are all godly because we know what is good and evil.

You should focus more on your life and problems and carry your cross because you are not safe.

Dtruthspeaker:


When The Debate Is Lost, Slander Becomes The Tool Of The Loser

you don't have anything to debate about because you are empty.
I asked you questions and you couldn't answer them then you started quoting unrelated bible verses that has no link and aim to my questions with zero facts.

Gromilla010:
If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

I put it to you that the pagan god knows that they will eventually eat the fruit

Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

E no go make sense to mordern people. It's was written by ancient men .. Our brains are more advanced.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have answered your question. This is, ...

you haven't answered anything...you are beating about the bush!!!

Gromilla010:
who prophecied what?

None of your business! After all you do not need it.

quote author=Gromilla010 post=116881649]
If you believe that heaven and hell is real then you are an idiot.[/quote]

There is nothing to believe. Life is either sweet (heavenly) or bitter (hell).

quote author=Gromilla010 post=116881649]
We are all godly because we know what is good and evil.[/quote]

It goes without saying.

Gromilla010:

You should focusore on your life and problems and carry your cross because you are not safe.

I have had a very sweet life and living and I have all I want as God Promised.
So no problems here.

Butt I just pity you young generations as everyday, your tomorrows just keeps shrinking and shrinking worse and worse.

So it's your turn now.

Thebadpolitican:



You abomination again.. You're trying to discredit the holy bible this time around to pass your satanist ideas of lgbt if i was a God i will put your kind in the hottest part of hell along with serial killers and ritualist


Now to your abominable community here is the answer


Do you tell a novelist how to write his frictional
Novel

Do you tell a programmer how to script is Web page

If you don't like any of their works don't patronize them simple you're an entity and life has been scripted for you already to be condemn by the angry mobs, try going against your destined fate let's see...


The fact is you can keep hating on all the Gods and even the Christian God the truth remains

You didn't ask to be born and you never had to choice to die... If you choose not follow any religion its your choice but don't rubbish anybody religion because you want to pass your satanist message of lgbtq abominable act

The truth is they are forces beyond your control either bow to one or bow to all or even bow to non but then respect people's religion.....

who is this lunatic bleating like a goat whose brain has been uprooted... Typing endless gibberish with no form of consistency, meaning, aim and direction.
I chew fools like you for breakfast
I can see you are vagabondical nonetity who is bound to the chains of Stupidity, ignorance, foolishness and Illiteracy.
Your god is already burning you in the pit of hell.
Nobody needs to tell you that you are living in penury, misery and anguish.
If you like wail from now till your decayed self die the fact still remains you are making a sound without effect.

At least your 1kb memory knows the fact that the bible is all fiction.

At least your 1kb memory knows that the bible was programmed by humans to control the masses.

But I know you don't have a brain.
Like I told you earlier you have no hope, ambition, goal, purpose direction, destination or magnitude...infact you are chaff.
If you live your lane and divert to another persons lane I bet you, you will have a fatal accident to the extent your brain would be crushed to pieces.

Gromilla010:
you don't have anything to debate about because you are empty.
I asked you questions and you couldn't answer them then you started quoting unrelated bible verses that has no link and aim to my questions with zero facts.

Your thread just called you a liar!