Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by syntekelite(m): 11:32am On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet: When are we going to start being objective about our choices by leaving religion out?
This same APC gave us a muslim messiah and a pastor that brought Nigeria to the trenches pro max². The most clueless and devilish administration in Nigeria democratic history.
When are we going to learn that it's never about your religion before you can do the right things? Because if Buhari-Osinbajo couldn't safe Nigeria based on their religion alliance, no religion can safe us.
We shouldn't care about this Muslim-Muslim ticket at all, we should only be concerned about an administration (even if it's a Christian-Christian) that can safe Nigeria from insecurity, banditry, bad education system, tribalism, religion bigotry and so many others. Your statement would have made sense if we arent already living in a country where religious bigots abound..isnt it suspicious to you that buhari became president and immediately fulani militias were activated to begin their wanton destruction and colonisation of christian communities and citizens albeit without restriction.(meaning they had been trained and battle prepared for such a president), isnt it more suspicious to you that they have presently disappeared and their name has now been changed to bandits,most likely in preparation for the emergence of the muslim/muslim ticket..now shettima is being put forward alongside tinubu, in your utopian thinking is that not a recipe for disaster?..the only reason they havent fully launched a full scale war is cos of osibanjo..the pastor brings that balance that nigeria will always need in a multi ethnic and religious country, it might seem inconsequential to you but in the political religious landscape its huge. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Tareq1105: 11:33am On Sep 22, 2022 |
thedio:
If a xtian president emerge from north would south east allow a Muslim Igbo to emerge as VP It's a big question o. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 11:36am On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet:
All what you typed up there still based on sentiment.
Try to be objective and see my post as it is. If you understand this, you will see that all the epistles above aren't needed Sentiments ![](/faces/huh.png) ??.......clear pictures of what is starring us in our faces are sentiments to you ![](/faces/huh.png) ? Well, you are just one person out of 200million Nigerians , there is still hope ..... |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by BigYash: 11:36am On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet: When are we going to start being objective about our choices by leaving religion out?
This same APC gave us a muslim messiah and a pastor that brought Nigeria to the trenches pro max². The most clueless and devilish administration in Nigeria democratic history.
When are we going to learn that it's never about your religion before you can do the right things?
Because if Buhari-Osinbajo couldn't safe Nigeria based on their religion alliance, no religion can safe us.
We shouldn't care about this Muslim-Muslim ticket at all, we should only be concerned about an administration (even if it's a Christian-Christian) that can safe Nigeria from insecurity, banditry, bad education system, tribalism, religion bigotry and so many others. But Bat,Shitman and APC can never safe Nigerian ,because they are part of the sane Buhari administration that ruined the nation to this extent.. They promised heaven on earth,but they keep blaming PDP for their failure. Lately they are now blaming Obi for for their failure. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by syntekelite(m): 11:36am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Realist12: All these guys are the ones over flogging the religious sentiments. Due to the demographics of this country Muslims are majority in the north, it's only right to pick a popular running mate, if a Christian running mate is competent, popular and in APC he'd be picked . May i ask what election has Babachir contested and won for himself. But wants to blackmail APC . Let's leave sentiments, how many APC Northern Christian can contest a presidential election right now and win Atiku in the North ? Is it Dogara or Babachir himself. The ticket isn't centered on religion but competence and popularity. Based on your this your analogy... Who knew osibanjo in the whole southern region ![](/faces/huh.png) |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Tareq1105: 11:42am On Sep 22, 2022 |
syntekelite:
Your statement would have made sense if we arent already living in a country where religious bigots abound..isnt it suspicious to you that buhari became president and immediately fulani militias were activated to begin their wanton destruction and colonisation of christian communities and citizens albeit without restriction.(meaning they had been trained and battle prepared for such a president), isnt it more suspicious to you that they have presently disappeared and their name has now been changed to bandits,most likely in preparation for the emergence of the muslim/muslim ticket..now shettima is being put forward alongside tinubu, in your utopian thinking is that not a recipe for disaster?..the only reason they havent fully launched a full scale war is cos of osibanjo..the pastor brings that balance that nigeria will always need in a multi ethnic and religious country, it might seem inconsequential to you but in the political religious landscape its huge.
I agree with your fear but I disagree with where you said Osinbajo 'bring the balance' It's not true. The commander in chief is the one in charge. He doesn't share that power with anybody not even his Vice. Our problem is the imported militia groups brought in by this administration either consciously or unconsciously. I have strong believe that with Asiwaju or Obi, they would disappear. But if it's Atiku then we should be ready for a long thing. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by yuzjet(m): 11:43am On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by funshint(m): 11:43am On Sep 22, 2022 |
But when this same ediot stole ₦250m to cut grass it wasn't demonic? I just pity Christians who allow themselves to be manipulated by politicians. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 11:45am On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet:
Yes. But I hope you are the 200million? ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) Muslims can't take over NIGERIA.....is it difficult for you to understand ![](/faces/huh.png) ?? |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Bluntemperor: 11:47am On Sep 22, 2022 |
princeade86: This man still dey para God bless you for your insight! Most people are just blinded and biased and full of tribalism and ethnicity, which is so much in the air,at a time of political dispensation like this. This man Babachir who was once a Secretary to Federal Govt,yet was sacked by same govt ! Yet, people always quarrel with Tinubu, that did not appoint him. What manner of hatred is that? Please,make Una park somewhere joo! |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by yuzjet(m): 11:48am On Sep 22, 2022 |
ArcSEMPECJ:
Muslims can't take over NIGERIA.....is it difficult for you to understand ?? Keep grounding Nigeria base on your own thinking. My comment is still there for you to read and understand. I won't reply your mentions again. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by NaijaRoyalty(m): 11:49am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Well said |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by ogunsbanjul(m): 11:50am On Sep 22, 2022 |
If Muslim/Muslim ticket is satanic then what of stealing federal government money whille on appointment with federal government as secretary ?
Holy Babasar Lawal is a saint and that's why he was removed as FGN secretary |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by syntekelite(m): 11:51am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Tareq1105:
I agree with your fear but I disagree with where you said Osinbajo 'bring the balance' It's not true. The commander in chief is the one in charge. He doesn't share that power with anybody not even his Vice.
Our problem is the imported militia groups brought in by this administration either consciously or unconsciously.
I have strong believe that with Asiwaju or Obi, they would disappear. But if it's Atiku then we should be ready for a long thing. You have said it all.... As per osibanjo the balance isnt something visible,its something that is just there unseen but potent,it is what it is.. the balance is the millions of christians who feel represented, its the thousands of christian elites who feel their interests is represented..its what spills over into the lower and upper senate chambers.. no matter how bad it wants to get,that balance always checkmates it . That balance is destroyed with tinubu/shettima.. it gives reigns to anarchy..i laugh at unexposed nigerians who have no idea that christian militias abound. No one prays for such anarchy.. but it seems apc doesnt give 2 f***ks... |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Tareq1105: 11:55am On Sep 22, 2022 |
SaLongs1: Nawa for you, all this epistle because wetin.....abi you be one big office holder ni. Back to your point it is now left for the electorate to decide who is right or wrong not because of rants on social media Dogara supported Asiwaju with the permutation that Asiwaju would make him VP. Same goes for Babachir Lawan. Tell me if Babachir Lawan have any electoral value at all to add to Tinubu. Has he ever contested any elective office before?Even Dogara with his crisis with Gov Bala, what value can he add to Tinubu? |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Tareq1105: 11:58am On Sep 22, 2022 |
syntekelite:
You have said it all.... As per osibanjo the balance isnt something visible,its something that is just there unseen but potent,it is what it is.. the balance is the millions of christians who feel represented, its the thousands of christian elites who feel their interests is represented..its what spills over into the lower and upper senate chambers.. no matter how bad it wants to get,that balance always checkmates it . That balance is destroyed with tinubu/shettima.. it gives reigns to anarchy..i laugh at unexposed nigerians who have no idea that christian militias abound. No one prays for such anarchy.. but it seems apc doesnt give 2 f***ks... Yes, I understand. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Parachoko: 11:58am On Sep 22, 2022 |
faste: Are you not in coutry?Or did you just fall from mars. Can you show me evidence Bola Ahmed Tinubu ordered soldiers to go and shoot at civilians? I dey always doubt if some of una on this politics section no b under 16 years with the way una dey always reason. I can't believe a sane and political literate will believe Tinubu can give order to soldiers. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by iLoveYouToo(m): 12:04pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
Cyynthia: DEAR NIGERIANS, PLEASE CALM DOWN NOW AND READ THE LONG EFFECT AND CONSEQUENCES OF MUSLIM-MUSLIM TICKET
God forbid that Tinubu and Shettima triumph at the 2023 presidential election and proceed to complete two terms. Power will thereafter be liable to rotate to Northern Nigeria, which will probably produce a Muslim. At the end of two terms of that person, following the two terms of Tinubu-Shettima and counting back to the two terms of Muhammadu Buhari, Nigeria’s presidency would have been occupied by a Muslim for pretty much a quarter of a century or for 27 out of 32 years going back to the administration of Umaru Musa Yar’Adua. Children born at the beginning of this period may end up with the impression that Nigeria is indeed an Emirate in which only Muslims are entitled to aspire to the highest office. Unfortunately, Christians don’t get the message being passed by this action. If it succeeds, in the next 8 years, political parties will only field Muslim candidates. They will tell you that if they present a Christian candidate, that they won’t win. That the North will not vote him, and they need northern votes to win. They will automatically sideline Christians in the politics of Nigeria. Then gradually, our laws begin to change towards a Muslim nation. The Hijab ruling is a clear example. Christians better stand your ground in this election or be eliminated. Once they vex, they attack churches and kill worshipers and its normal. They stone Christians in the name of blasphemy and its normal.
They negotiate with terrorists to release only Muslim girls and keep the Christian. Don’t use because of ethnicity and destroy your faith ethnicity is only in the world, you believe is beyond this world. Those attacked in Owo church, were not attacked because they are Yoruba, they were attacked because they are Christians. Those attacked in southern Kaduna are not attacked because they are Hausa’s, but because they are Christians What happens if a person decides to be proselytized? People can change their faith/religion but not tribe/region. Isn’t that what evangelism is about? |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by bjdon: 12:13pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
Tinubu is heading for 3rd in the election. Northern Muslims prefer Atiku and Northern Christians don't want him due to Muslim/Muslim. He only wins in the SW and maybe Borno and Yobe. He would be better off stepping down now for Amachi or Osinbajo than being disgraced in Feb |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Newton2024: 12:14pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
Cyynthia: DEAR NIGERIANS, PLEASE CALM DOWN NOW AND READ THE LONG EFFECT AND CONSEQUENCES OF MUSLIM-MUSLIM TICKET
God forbid that Tinubu and Shettima triumph at the 2023 presidential election and proceed to complete two terms. Power will thereafter be liable to rotate to Northern Nigeria, which will probably produce a Muslim. At the end of two terms of that person, following the two terms of Tinubu-Shettima and counting back to the two terms of Muhammadu Buhari, Nigeria’s presidency would have been occupied by a Muslim for pretty much a quarter of a century or for 27 out of 32 years going back to the administration of Umaru Musa Yar’Adua. Children born at the beginning of this period may end up with the impression that Nigeria is indeed an Emirate in which only Muslims are entitled to aspire to the highest office. Unfortunately, Christians don’t get the message being passed by this action. If it succeeds, in the next 8 years, political parties will only field Muslim candidates. They will tell you that if they present a Christian candidate, that they won’t win. That the North will not vote him, and they need northern votes to win. They will automatically sideline Christians in the politics of Nigeria. Then gradually, our laws begin to change towards a Muslim nation. The Hijab ruling is a clear example. Christians better stand your ground in this election or be eliminated. Once they vex, they attack churches and kill worshipers and its normal. They stone Christians in the name of blasphemy and its normal.
They negotiate with terrorists to release only Muslim girls and keep the Christian. Don’t use because of ethnicity and destroy your faith ethnicity is only in the world, you believe is beyond this world. Those attacked in Owo church, were not attacked because they are Yoruba, they were attacked because they are Christians. Those attacked in southern Kaduna are not attacked because they are Hausa’s, but because they are Christians How did you manage to upload that particular picture on Nairaland? I have tried it many times but unsuccessful. I think N*iraland have banned it on their website.
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Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Elidrisy20: 12:17pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Don27tiky(m): 12:31pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
thedio:
If a xtian president emerge from north would south east allow a Muslim Igbo to emerge as VP that will still be better than a same faith ticket |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Owologbo(m): 12:40pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
Realist12: All these guys are the ones over flogging the religious sentiments. Due to the demographics of this country Muslims are majority in the north, it's only right to pick a popular running mate, if a Christian running mate is competent, popular and in APC he'd be picked . May i ask what election has Babachir contested and won for himself. But wants to blackmail APC . Let's leave sentiments, how many APC Northern Christian can contest a presidential election right now and win Atiku in the North ? Is it Dogara or Babachir himself. The ticket isn't centered on religion but competence and popularity. But Lalong is competent to be a DG not VP? |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Timmi: 12:40pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by ruggedtimi(m): 12:41pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet: When are we going to start being objective about our choices by leaving religion out?
This same APC gave us a muslim messiah and a pastor that brought Nigeria to the trenches pro max². The most clueless and devilish administration in Nigeria democratic history.
When are we going to learn that it's never about your religion before you can do the right things?
Because if Buhari-Osinbajo couldn't safe Nigeria based on their religion alliance, no religion can safe us.
We shouldn't care about this Muslim-Muslim ticket at all, we should only be concerned about an administration (even if it's a Christian-Christian) that can safe Nigeria from insecurity, banditry, bad education system, tribalism, religion bigotry and so many others. in this world religion is very important when it comes to government and leadership. I Doubt if a muslim will ever rule united states or china or russia or even our neighbour Ghana....Nigeria has two major religions and power needs to be rotated amongst the two religions for the sake of peace and unity. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by Spandau: 1:17pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
Ibkhaleel: Dogara and Babachir are a sign of ungratefulness and d character of a typical northern xtian....
they both have no electoral value in their states because they can never win a senatorial seat! not to talk of been a governor!
Dogara and Babachir are just being misch!ievous. Both were raised to fame by Muslims! They know deep down in their hearts that Northern Christians don't normally vote APC enmass They have been voting PDP since 1999. Without their votes PMB won in 2015 and 2019.
APC has never won Dogara and Babachir's local government at the Presidential level. Go and verify
Could you imagine, when Dogara contested Reps under APC, he won while PMB lost in his LGA in an election conducted same day and time. Selective voting l'l say but go and verify
DogaraYakubu 1. A Muslim Minister Habibu Ningi made u a Special Assistant in 2003 when u were a classroom teacher.
2. A Muslim Governor Ahmadu Muazu made you a House of Representatives member in a Muslim dominated Constituency in 2007.
3. A Muslim Speaker Tambuwal and other lieutenants like Abdulmumini Jibrin, Suleiman Lasun, Alhassan Doguwa make sure u became the Speaker of the National Assembly in 2015.
4. In 2019 when you were ejected by the APC and its Governor in Bauchi, a Muslim PDPP flagbearer Atiku and Kauran Bauchi gave you a platform to remain relevant. All through your political sojourn Muslims were those that rose u to prominence, no single Christian does that not even CAN. But here u are today running left, right and center all in the name of resisting a Muslim-Muslim ticket.
This is so mean of you. You are on a journey to dead end and you shall live to see Asiwaju/Shettima win in 2023. A Muslim/Muslim ticket will conquer right before your eyes
![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Monkeydeen/Baboonlahi ticket, shey? |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by BABANGBALI: 1:31pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
APC is an evil party
Nigerian old women can't load cards.
But can detect when a girl is one week pregnant |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by duality(m): 1:32pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
SpecialAdviser: My problem is that Nigerian Christians are easy by overs. Once they see money, they lose their senses.
Later same Christians will turn and be shouting they are killing Christians in Nigeria. No single Christian, I repeat no Christian will have the courage to float Christian-Christian ticket. None at all.
I trust Muslims to do a protest vote and send his career packing. Muslims can hardly be bought over with money. Sometimes I laugh when Christians accuse Muslims of trying to Islamise them. Why won't you be Islamized when you have so much lust for money?
Muslims in the north are even agitating more against Muslim Muslim ticket than the Christians. Tinubu intentionally insulted Christians and decided to rub salt on injury when he hired fake bishops. How many Christians can courageously hire fake Imams? Give them quran to go to a political gathering? How many? We Christians should reduce our lust for money so that we can earn respect.
In an election where you have 3 Muslims vs 1 Christian major contenders, trust Christians to collect bribe and vote anyhow. Later they turn back and complain what is happening to Christians. Many reasonable Muslims are already getting ready to vote a Christian in protest in accordance to Allah teachings on Justice. Will Christians vote Wisely? Only time shall tell. The main thing is to stop them from rigging. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by BABANGBALI: 1:34pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet: When are we going to start being objective about our choices by leaving religion out?
This same APC gave us a muslim messiah and a pastor that brought Nigeria to the trenches pro max². The most clueless and devilish administration in Nigeria democratic history.
When are we going to learn that it's never about your religion before you can do the right things?
Because if Buhari-Osinbajo couldn't safe Nigeria based on their religion alliance, no religion can safe us.
We shouldn't care about this Muslim-Muslim ticket at all, we should only be concerned about an administration (even if it's a Christian-Christian) that can safe Nigeria from insecurity, banditry, bad education system, tribalism, religion bigotry and so many others. religion cannot be ruled out of the Nigerian politics, now or in the future |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by excel112: 1:40pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by gbigbega: 1:45pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
yuzjet: When are we going to start being objective about our choices by leaving religion out?
This same APC gave us a muslim messiah and a pastor that brought Nigeria to the trenches pro max². The most clueless and devilish administration in Nigeria democratic history.
When are we going to learn that it's never about your religion before you can do the right things?
Because if Buhari-Osinbajo couldn't safe Nigeria based on their religion alliance, no religion can safe us.
We shouldn't care about this Muslim-Muslim ticket at all, we should only be concerned about an administration (even if it's a Christian-Christian) that can safe Nigeria from insecurity, banditry, bad education system, tribalism, religion bigotry and so many others. In a saner society, your take would have made meaning. Not in this context, when muslim go to churches and kill Christians and our politicians keep quiet because the president is a muslim, Not in this society when a school girl was stoned to death and the police says they cant find the people - not one person was prosecuted. From time immemorial, religion as been the fuel that drives politics. That is why most nations are regarded as christians or muslim country. If religion doesn't matter why will they be labelled as such. The idea of keepiing religion out of politics is still a political way to make Christian expecially be dormant when it comes to speaking up on politics. That trick no longer works - we have awoken. |
Re: 2023: APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket Is Demonic - Ex-SGF, Babachir Lawal by asanausana91: 1:50pm On Sep 22, 2022 |
raishisahil: True but why just finding your voice? he has been talking. |