TenQ:


Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace

Not wonder when you replace Allah with another noun, all the lies scatter!

See how you made an interpretation with many flowery words that is NOT in the Arabic text to Deceive yourself and your fellow Muslims.

No wonder according to Allah himself, ALL Muslims will enter Hell Fire before he would later remove them from it. The issue is if after entering hell fire , Muslims discover that they have been Deceived!

I still don't get you! May you would only be understood by a nincompoop with the holy spirit!
For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son....

For Satan so love the world that he gave his only begotten son....

Does the above makes any sense?

That's how you sound!

TenQ:

Can you help translate the Arabic phrase
يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى الحجر

This is a Phrase which can mean they "shower blessing on the stone".

AntiChristian:


This is a Phrase which can mean to "shower blessing on the stone".

And what does google translate say is the translation?


يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى الحجر

يُصَلُّو ==Pray
يُصَلُّونَ ==they pray
عَلَى ==On
الحجر ==Stone

I've broken them in syllables:
Where is SHOWER and BLESSING in your translation

Without lies islam crumbles!

TenQ:

And what does google translate say is the translation?


يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى الحجر

يُصَلُّو ==Pray
يُصَلُّونَ ==they pray
عَلَى ==On
الحجر ==Stone

I've broken them in syllables:


Where is SHOWER and BLESSING in your translation

Without lies islam crumbles!

This is foolishness! Will Google translate explain how words are used in grammar?

What type of prayer? Is it supplication? Is it Salah that involved standing , bowing and prostration?
Google translate won't give you this!

You need to learn!

AntiChristian:


I still don't get you! May you would only be understood by a nincompoop with the holy spirit!
For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son....

For Satan so love the world that he gave his only begotten son....

Does the above makes any sense?

That's how you sound!

It is a test of your rules of translation of Arabic into English. If the rules were okay, the interpretations would be CONSISTENT

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace

The meaning should be consistent if the translation is correct.


1. Ade feran lati ma je eran didin!
2. Buhari feran lati ma je eran didin!!
Are 2 yoruba statements, meaning

1. Ade likes to eat fried meat!
2. Buhari likes to eat fried meat!!

A change of just one word should not change the core interpretation

So also,


Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.



The only difference between the two statements is a WORD: the meaning should be consistent

AntiChristian:


This is foolishness! Will Google translate explain how words are used in grammar?

What type of prayer? Is it supplication? Is it Salah that involved standing , bowing and prostration?
Google translate won't give you this!

You need to learn!

So, what is googel translation for
Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

If the translation is not correct, what is the best translation.

TenQ:

It is a test of your rules of translation of Arabic into English. If the rules were okay, the interpretations would be CONSISTENT

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Quran 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace

The meaning should be consistent if the translation is correct.


1. Ade feran lati ma je eran didin!
2. Buhari feran lati ma je eran didin!!
Are 2 yoruba statements, meaning

1. Ade likes to eat fried meat!
2. Buhari likes to eat fried meat!!

A change of just one word should not change the core interpretation

So also,


Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.

The only difference between the two statements is a WORD: the meaning should be consistent

That's if Allah is a man like you make your God!

Allah has no coequal nor anyone comparable to Him.

Only Bible uses Elohim for God and Satan!

AntiChristian:


This is a Phrase which can mean they "shower blessing on the stone".

What does google translate say is the translation of the arabic phrase
يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى الحجر



?

TenQ:

So, what is googel translation for
Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

If the translation is not correct, what is the best translation.

Allah and Satan are not in the same category!

Allah is the creator!

Satan is a rebellious creation!

More so, Google translator is not the best grammatical translator of Arabic.

AntiChristian:


Oh! Sorry, Since you know little biology, here is your response in full:
"Sulb" is the backbone and "tara'ib" the breast- bones, i.e. the ribs. Since the procreative fluid in both man and woman is discharged from that part of the body which is between the back and the breast, it is said that man has been created from the fluid issuing out froth between the back and the breast. This fluid is produced even in case the hands and feet are cut off. Therefore, it is not correct to say that it issues out from the whole body of man. In fact, the principal organs of the body are its source and all these are located in the trunk. The brain has not been mentioned separately because the back-bone is that part of the brain through which connection between the body and the brain is established.

So "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs" are both the male and female sexual fluids!

The only organ between the Ribcage and the backbone is the Lungs.

Do you have your Testis within your ribcage?
Is a woman's ovary between the ribcage?

Could it be that Allah does not know simple biology?


Now, what is the GUSHING Fluid: the Ovary or the Semen?

I don't understand how you can shamelessly lie against your better knowledge.

AntiChristian:


Hello, you should be able to decipher it was a Holy Spirit Taqiyya or not. I gave a referenced Hadith to buttress my point.
عَلَى in Arabic means "on"

Why would i use google translate when i understand?

Na u fit use am!

Islam is so full of lies that Muslims cannot be trusted with their own interpretations.

More than half of their hadiths (from there fellow muslims) are even fabrications! Is this a false statement?

Google translate says: يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ MEAN They pray to the Prophet

TenQ:

The only organ between the Ribcage and the backbone is the Lungs.

Do you have your Testis within your ribcage?
Is a woman's ovary between the ribcage?

Could it be that Allah does not know simple biology?


Now, what is the GUSHING Fluid: the Ovary or the Semen?

I don't understand how you can shamelessly lie against your better knowledge.

Testes produces sperm which is only about 2-5% of the seminal fluid! ?
And where is the ovaries?

It's only Advance science that can understand that verse really not the simple biology you think you know!

See the wonderful advance science on Quora
https://qr.ae/pv9agw

TenQ:

Islam is so full of lies that Muslims cannot be trusted with their own interpretations.

More than half of their hadiths (from there fellow muslims) are even fabrications! Is this a false statement?

Google translate says: يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ MEAN They pray to the Prophet

Mr. Google translate!
Good bye!
Since na only Google translator you trust in!

Chat with Pastor Google. At least it has more holy spirit than you!

AntiChristian:


Allah and Satan are not in the same category!

Allah is the creator!

Satan is a rebellious creation!

More so, Google translator is not the best grammatical translator of Arabic.

Let me help you out with a simpler but similar text

So, what is google translation for
Composition102:
إِنَّ جبريل وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

Composition104:
إِنَّ جبريل وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

Composition106:
إِنَّ جبريل وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى الملك ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

If the translation is not correct, what is the best translation.

There are three Arabic sentences, what are their meanings (Google is your friend)

AntiChristian:


That's if Allah is a man like you make your God!

Allah has no coequal nor anyone comparable to Him.

Only Bible uses Elohim for God and Satan!

Composition101 IS JUST A SENTENCE.

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.

The only difference between the two statements is a WORD: the meaning should be consistent

AntiChristian:


Mr. Google translate!
Good bye!
Since na only Google translator you trust in!

Chat with Pastor Google. At least it has more holy spirit than you!

When lies is what makes Islam, why wouldn't it require a miracle of Allah to comprehend simple arabic!?

TenQ:

Composition101 IS JUST A SENTENCE.

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.

The only difference between the two statements is a WORD: the meaning should be consistent

The word would make sense only in the Bible!

Allah is special in the Qur'an as He says no one is like Him!

In your Bible, Elohim is God, man, Angel, Satan.

Respect dey Qur'an! So tell Google translator this!

AntiChristian:


Testes produces sperm which is only about 2-5% of the seminal fluid! ?
And where is the ovaries?

Surah 86 (The Night Comer) says :
86:5 - So let man observe from what he was created.
86:6 - He was created from a fluid, ejected,
86:7 - Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.
86:8 - Indeed, Allah, to return him [to life], is Able.

1. Ovaries are in the ribs of a woman!?
2. Do ovaries GUSH out
3. Are the testes between the ribcage of a man?

man was created from A FLUID (singular)
the source is between the rib and the backbone
The fluid gushes out

Except these are the miracles of Islam, the writer is completely IGNORANT of elementary biology and thus cannot be God!

AntiChristian:


The word would make sense only in the Bible!

Allah is special in the Qur'an as He says no one is like Him!

In your Bible, Elohim is God, man, Angel, Satan.

Respect dey Qur'an! So tell Google translator this!

It is good you recognise that Elohim is a title and not a name !

Of course, there is no one like allah who has two right hands and who is so alike to the dajjal except that he doesn't have one eyes like him.

Even as muslims, on the day of resurrection, you wouldn't recognise Allah!
Would you?

Does Allah have TWO right hands and no left hand?

With all the heresies and fallacies staring at this lost soul called AntiChristian, he still wants to remain irredeemable. No valid point from all his posts. All I could see was muttering of Holy Spirit here and there. Even your fellow Muslims left you here to keep wallowing in deceptions.

I love how you are being fired wotoporously by tenq and the sixfigure guy.

noble2faith:
With all the heresies and fallacies staring at this lost soul called AntiChristian, he still wants to remain irredeemable. No valid point from all his posts. All I could see was muttering of Holy Spirit here and there. Even your fellow Muslims left you here to keep wallowing in deceptions.

I love how you are being fired wotoporously by tenq and the sixfigure guy.

On the day a Muslim embraces the truth, that same day he'll renounce Islam. We can at best pray for them that one of these days, the Light of God will penetrate their souls!

Shalom

Sixfiguresmart:
I know Muslims. They can play a game of endurance.

They are raised to be aggressive and violent. I am honest with you. The only way a muslim will pay attention to you is when you have him pay attention. Sad truth is that without aggression, he will never pay attention. whatever you teach them here are passive. They are indoctrinated that way. When you stand up to a Muslim, there are two things that can happen, when violence is not an option. You sow a deep seed of doubt in his heart which will likely manifest in the future only if he finds another piece of that puzzle. secondly, he will feel bitter within himself and seek to know more about this own faith. The more he comes to know Islam, the freer he becomes. Because at this point, he is not searching to defend an indefensible religion. He comes to learn more about the evil of his cult and that kind of muslim is hard to get him back. cos he feels betrayed and upset with the ones he looked up to.

The ones who are here are not blind. They see these things. They know now that there are hills and valleys in this conversation. If you noticed, they have effortlessly attempted to deflect and derail this conversations for a long time. That is called Dawah tactics. The Dawah are those muslims who go about seeking converts. Very swift and fluid in speech. Good psychic and argumentative skill. Their job is to read your intelligence and play you into a space of your own stupidity. They are Dawah. Very intelligent guys. You can easily beat them by holding them to a single subject. Do not fling or bulge. Once you crack that, they become useless.

Never let a muslim drag you from one subject to another. They will never want to get to the depth because it is very shallow and muddy down there. Stay on it. Hang on that subject, get islamic materials and their walls come down like London bridge. They are not that savvy, just fluid in speech and psychology.

All these ones here are shocked. I am bringing more to them. They will see islam and run on this nairaland. Ask him why his prophet felt the need to violate the innocence of a little boy? Hit them hard on those psychological nerves. That is where the brainwashing is. The psychology. They have no faith in anything. They play by the psychic mind.

Never drop your knees to a muslim. No matter how good that peace deal is, he will break it. Go hard on them. Strike hard because you are saving lives by so doing. many of them come to me in private to cry on how they can live without their families. They have come to know that islam is evil but the family ties weigh on their minds. as soon as these guys gain independence to a foreign land, it is over.

I kid you not. About 30 percent of those in saudi are pretend muslims. those in the heart of islam. Go online you will be shocked.

Quite interesting how I bump up to this lengthy thread. You’ve been running from debate with me for God knows when. Unlike what you preach here, you keep muddling up issues and have refused to stick to one point of debate since I’ve asked.

I want us to select one doctrinal topic and scrutinize it from the perspective of Islam and Christianity. Let’s debate Islam and Christianity. I Love and relish it. Every single issue you have with Islam, I can point out similarity and ABSURDITY OF CHRISTIANITY’S version. Every single of one of them.

So where should we start from? Doctrinal or social issues?

noble2faith:
With all the heresies and fallacies staring at this lost soul called AntiChristian, he still wants to remain irredeemable. No valid point from all his posts. All I could see was muttering of Holy Spirit here and there. Even your fellow Muslims left you here to keep wallowing in deceptions.

I love how you are being fired wotoporously by tenq and the sixfigure guy.

Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!

It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!

Where is the deception?

Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!

AntiChristian:

Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!
It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!
Where is the deception?
Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!

Indeed like TenQ started, Without lies islam crumbles!
Antichristian hasn't been able to tell us how sperm is produced from the backbone.
He hasn't been able to tell us why Allah prays. And to whom Allah prays.
He hasn't been able to tell how the Arabic language that is written by man and is meant to be read by man will suddenly become 'mysterious' and start changing its meaning to suit any reader.
He has not been able to explain anything.

Thank God for Prophet Google (Peace be upon him) for helping us unearth more of the lies and contradictions in Islam.

AntiChristian:


Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!

It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!

Where is the deception?

Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!

Jesus Christ loves you. Apostle Paul did more than what you are doing, but he later surrendered to Him.

sagenaija:
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Indeed like TenQ started, Without lies islam crumbles!
Antichristian hasn't been able to tell us how sperm is produced from the backbone.
He hasn't been able to tell us why Allah prays. And to whom Allah prays.
He hasn't been able to tell how the Arabic language that is written by man and is meant to be read by man will suddenly become 'mysterious' and start changing its meaning to suit any reader.
He has not been able to explain anything.

Thank God for Prophet Google (Peace be upon him) for helping us unearth more of the lies and contradictions in Islam.

Hahaha! My amiable comrade. Are u trying to say Google is more useful to humanity than Mohammed?

noble2faith:


Hahaha! My amiable comrade. Are u trying to say Google is more useful to humanity than Mohammed?

Absolutely!

Go and debate with your mullah.
There is no absurdity in Christianity. You had mentioned Constantine and there I knew you have a lackluster knowledge on Christianity. You linked la Reconquista to Christianity and that also proves that you need assistance. I will never run away from a debate. But, to have the referee on your side or the moderator to tie my hands down while you throw punches is not a level ground. I get banned almost every 30 minutes and that is not fair cos I see these muslims make egregious slurs against Christians yet no one bans them. It will be a whole waste of time.
If you want, I can debate you on a neutral ground. Not on an Islamic platform like this.

Allah's Messenger said: Allah created Adam when He had to create him and He struck his right shoulder and there emitted from it white offspring as if they were white ants. He struck his left shoulder and there emitted from it the black offspring as if they were charcoal. He then said (to those who had been emitted) from the right (shoulder): For Paradise and I do not mind. Then He said to those (who had been emitted) from his left shoulder: They are for Hell and I do not mind.

allah does not care for any black skin person if you like pray 99 times a day. allah just doesn't care about you. your end is the Hell.

LegalWolf:


Quite interesting how I bump up to this lengthy thread. You’ve been running from debate with me for God knows when. Unlike what you preach here, you keep muddling up issues and have refused to stick to one point of debate since I’ve asked.

I want us to select one doctrinal topic and scrutinize it from the perspective of Islam and Christianity. Let’s debate Islam and Christianity. I Love and relish it. Every single issue you have with Islam, I can point out similarity and ABSURDITY OF CHRISTIANITY’S version. Every single of one of them.

So where should we start from? Doctrinal or social issues?

What is the meaning of quran?

AntiChristian:




Diversion tactics! When you are ready, you'll return to where you digressed from!

TenQ:

It is good you recognise that Elohim is a title and not a name !

Of course, there is no one like allah who has two right hands and who is so alike to the dajjal except that he doesn't have one eyes like him.

Even as muslims, on the day of resurrection, you wouldn't recognise Allah!
Would you?

Does Allah have TWO right hands and no left hand?

Ask him what shape is allah.
Is allah a shape or an amoeba?

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri:
Then Allah will come to them and says: “I am your Lord”, they reply: we’ll stay here till our Lord comes to us and when he comes to us we will recognize him, then Allah will appear in such a shape that they can recognize …

' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord. ' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?'

Is allah a shape or an amoeba? Is he shapeless? He has two shapes. The one they know and the one they do not know.

Book 33, Number 6416: Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying : Allah ordained the measures (of quality) of the creation fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth, as His Throne was upon water.

Where was the water on which allah’s throne rested before he created the heaven and the earth?

AntiChristian:


Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!

It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!

Where is the deception?

Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!