Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

Well it goes back to their father, Abraham. God befriended him, gave him a son at 100 years old, then told him to kill that son for Him. He was ready to do it. God credited that faith to him as righteousness. So God made a covenant with him and chose his descendants to be His people

It is called propaganda.....

He's a sovereign God, he does as he pleases, even from the womb, he said Jacob, l Love, Esau, I hate.... No one can question him....

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

Before you go envying Israel, you need to first understand that God did not choose Israel for His "inheritance" in the land of men out of love for Israel, the people, nor did God expect the people to somehow obey Him or do as He commands. No! God's love for Israel is not based on Israel but based on God wanting to use Israel for His ultimate plan regarding this world of ours.

https://www.nairaland.com/7350801/144000-overcomers/1#117041022

2special:
He's a sovereign God, he does as he pleases, even from the womb, he said Jacob, l Love, Esau, I hate.... No one can question him....

why will God hate a child he created right from womb?

kobojunkie

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

If you create a god, would you make other people the “chosen people”.

Would the god created by Famozine1 choose Knownunknown as his favorite Nairalander?

MaDaRa01:
why will God hate a child he created right from womb?

God chose to use Jacob to build for Himself a Nation from, a people of God to serve God forever and rule over all other Nations with.

1 This is a message from the Lord to Israel. God used Malachi to tell this message to the people.
2 The Lord said, “I love you, people.” But you said, “What shows you love us?” The Lord said, “Esau was Jacob’s brother, but I chose Jacob.
3 And I did not accept Esau. I destroyed his hill country. His country was destroyed, and now only wild dogs[d] live there.”
4 The people of Edom might say, “We were destroyed, but we will go back and rebuild our cities.” But the Lord All-Powerful says, “If they rebuild their cities, I will destroy them again.” That is why people say Edom is an evil country—a nation the Lord hates forever. - Malachi 1 vs 1 - 4

God's choosing of Jacob over Esau does not mean God literally hated the man called Esau. Instead, God wanted a Nation of the blood of Abraham and Isaac, but He didn't want it to be of the line of Esau but of Jacob.

2special:
He's a sovereign God, he does as he pleases, even from the womb, he said Jacob, l Love, Esau, I hate.... No one can question him....

Yet the one man that questioned God was rewarded by God even after?

Abeg, Stop pretending it is your place to speak on behalf of God. i.e. defend God with what are lies. Let God speak for Himself.

famozine1:

Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

It's due to His plan to save mankind that made Israelites God's chosen people!

After the fall of Man in the garden of Eden God promised to bring mankind back to glory through a perfect plan. One perfect human will be born and he will unravel all the tricks Satan is using to blindfold imperfect humans and finally destroy Satan. Genesis 3:15

This perfect human will come from a nation {Isaiah 9:6} and this nation will work with him to extend the opportunity to all other nationalities! Zechariah 8:23

So to lay the foundation of that nation God called Abraham out from his people in the most comfortable business center of his time to a place where development hasn't reached. Abraham agreed to work with God for the Salvation of the entire human race! Genesis 12:1-3

That is how the salvation plan continue to pass from Abraham to Isaac and from Isaac to Jacob the man called Israel. Exodus 3:6

God told the Israelites that if they proved to be faithful just like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (their ancestors) He will establish His covenant with them forever! Exodus 19:5

But sadly the Israelites lost that privilege they did not continue walking faithfully with God like their ancestors {John 8:39} in fact they killed many prophets that God raised among them {Matthew 23:34-38} they even killed the perfect model the main reason why God chose them saying "let his blood come upon us and our children" {Matthew 27:25} so God finally gave them up and chose another nation that will produce the FRUIT of faith like those men Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Matthew 21:43

Will you like to know more?

Kobojunkie:
God chose to use Jacob to build for Himself a Nation from, a people of God to serve God forever and rule over all other Nations with.
God's choosing of Jacob over Esau does not mean God literally hated the man called Esau. Instead, God wanted a Nation of the blood of Abraham and Isaac, but He didn't want it to be of the line of Esau but of Jacob.

There are other nations, asides Israel, that God has less preference for and they were all left to be, why should Edom be any different?

ChukwukaEze:
There are other nations, asides Israel, that God has less preference for and they were all left to be, why should Edom be any different?

The Nation God chose is of the line of Abraham and Isaac, is it not? Now in order to make it clear that it is Jacob that was chosen and not Esau, from that same exact line, God made it such that Edom could not a successful people become. Do the people of Edom still exist? Probably, but a successful nation of their own, they cannot become - Edom probably remains tucked away within tribes among several nations to this day. All this so they do not in any way overshadow the one God chose for His plan.

Was it Esau's evil that led to Edom being rejected by God? No! God simply chose Jacob, a devious one at that, for His plan and that is simply it.

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

That's because god is local.
Every nation, people and culture has their own god(s). You only embrace the god of Israel because your fathers were been told to abandon their gods, that they are false and evil gods and worhsip yahweh. Gods and religions were being exported as much as cultures so its no different from we wearing suit and tie today and call it coperate. Las las god na invention of men, ie men creared god and religion.

Kobojunkie:
Before you go envying Israel, you need to first understand that God did not choose Israel for His "inheritance" in the land of men out of love for Israel, the people, nor did God expect the people to somehow obey Him or do as He commands. No! God's love for Israel is not based on Israel but based on God wanting to use Israel for His ultimate plan regarding this world of ours.

https://www.nairaland.com/7350801/144000-overcomers/1#117041022

By this you mean Israel;

*is not quite deserving of God's special love?

*was used to preserve the birth of an unborn generation, which could be our's, and the fulfillment of an ultimate plan?

Kobojunkie:
The Nation God chose is of the line of Abraham and Isaac, is it not? Now in order to make it clear that it is Jacob that was chosen and not Esau, from that same exact line, God made it such that Edom could not a successful people become. Do the people of Edom still exist? Probably, but a successful nation of their own, they cannot become - Edom probably remains tucked away within tribes among several nations to this day. All this so they do not in any way overshadow the one God chose for His plan.

Was it Esau's evil that led to Edom being rejected by God? No! God simply chose Jacob, a devious one at that, for His plan and that is simply it.

Taken, thanks!

ChukwukaEze:
By this you mean Israel;
1. *is not quite deserving of God's special love?
2. was used to preserve the birth of an unborn generation, which could be our's, and the fulfillment of an ultimate plan?

1. Here's what God said to the Israelites in the Covenant He made with them - the National Constitution of the State of Israel - through Moses.

1. “Listen, you Israelites! You will go across the Jordan River today. You will go into that land to force out nations greater and stronger than you. Their cities are big and have walls as high as the sky!
2 The people there are tall and strong. They are the Anakites. You know about them. You heard our spies say, ‘No one can win against the Anakites.’
3 But you can be sure that it is the Lord your God who goes across the river before you—and God is like a fire that destroys! He will destroy those nations and make them fall before you. You will force those nations out and quickly destroy them. The Lord has promised you that this will happen.
4 “The Lord your God will force those nations out for you. But don’t say to yourselves, ‘The Lord brought us to live in this land because we are such good people.’ No, the Lord forced those nations out because they were evil, not because you were good.
5 You are going in to take their land, but not because you are good and live right. You are going in, and the Lord your God is forcing those people out because of the evil way they lived. And the Lord wants to keep the promise he made to your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
6 The Lord your God is giving you that good land to live in, but you should know that it is not because you are good. The truth is that you are very stubborn people! - Deuteronomy 9 vs 1 - 6

Clearly, they did not get chosen by God because they somehow merited or deserved it.

2. More like the fulfillment of God's ultimate plan which is, again, outlined right there in the Covenant God made with the people of Israel through Moses, the Constitution of the Nation He constituted of the people of Israel right there in the Land of Canaan.

Kobojunkie:
1. Here's what God said to the Israelites in the Covenant He made with them - the National Constitution of the State of Israel - through Moses.
Clearly, they did not get chosen by God because they somehow merited or deserved it.

2. More like the fulfillment of God's ultimate plan which is, again, outlined right there in the Covenant God made with the people of Israel through Moses, the Constitution of the Nation He constituted of the people of Israel right there in the Land of Canaan.

Okay, tanx, alot.

ChukwukaEze:
Okay, tanx, alot.

yw

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

You've asked a really good question.

One thing you need to realize, is not the God of the bible decided to choose Israel and discard the rest.

Rather, the Israelites at the time believed in the concept of a God that favored them as it's chosen people. But it wasn't just unique to them.

If you look back in history, each culture had their own god/gods they worshipped.. and each culture thought they were their god's chosen people. Each culture's gods also claimed to be the creator of the earth, at least to some extent.

The claim wasn't unique to Israel. It was basically how cultures were back in the day. Zeus to the Greeks.. Odin to the slavs and vikings.. Ra and Horus to the Egyptians. You get the idea.

It was later on, that people started trying to adopt the idea of this regional god, to the global scale.. making it seem like he created everyone but chose just a specific group

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

Because of His Plan of saving mankind

Dtruthspeaker:

Because of His Plan of saving mankind

After reading the post of a JW!

MaxInDHouse:


It's due to His plan to save mankind that made Israelites God's chosen people!

After the fall of Man in the garden of Eden God promised to bring mankind back to glory through a perfect plan. One perfect human will be born and he will unravel all the tricks Satan is using to blindfold imperfect humans and finally destroy Satan. Genesis 3:15

This perfect human will come from a nation {Isaiah 9:6} and this nation will work with him to extend the opportunity to all other nationalities! Zechariah 8:23

So to lay the foundation of that nation God called Abraham out from his people in the most comfortable business center of his time to a place where development hasn't reached. Abraham agreed to work with God for the Salvation of the entire human race! Genesis 12:1-3

That is how the salvation plan continue to pass from Abraham to Isaac and from Isaac to Jacob the man called Israel. Exodus 3:6

God told the Israelites that if they proved to be faithful just like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (their ancestors) He will establish His covenant with them forever! Exodus 19:5

But sadly the Israelites lost that privilege they did not continue walking faithfully with God like their ancestors {John 8:39} in fact they killed many prophets that God raised among them {Matthew 23:34-38} they even killed the perfect model the main reason why God chose them saying "let his blood come upon us and our children" {Matthew 27:25} so God finally gave them up and chose another nation that will produce the FRUIT of faith like those men Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Matthew 21:43

Will you like to know more?

KnownUnknown:


If you create a god, would you make other people the “chosen people”.

Would the god created by Famozine1 choose Knownunknown as his favorite Nairalander?

Clearly, the records show that Isreal did not create God, they even resisted Him, disobeyed Him and even worked against His Plans.

So as usual, you are talking rubbish.

MaxInDHouse:


After reading the post of a JW!

I was the first to say it was A Plan since 2019 and I told it to kobojunkie.who back then used to snake according to his whims from pro-God to Anti-God. Very unstable then. But now he has perfected the act of being stable in Pro-Anti-God, even using what I was also the first here to lay, that Christ Teachings shows The Way. And it is amazing how he could still corrupt this Pure and Sweet Teaching which is why I knew he was jw. To corrupt a thing is the jw way

I even remember I told it to you also back when you where Madximus69 before you did suicide to that Monika and rebirth with this Monika. And a lot of things you now say today, where you and I agree, you got them from me. All of which I got directly from God Himself. But, I am happy to diminish that The Truth and knowledge of God be increased,

Like others, you did not know them before.

So, I figured out The Plan, even before I joined Nairaland and back then, none of you knew that.

gsegun43:
That's because god is local.
Every nation, people and culture has their own god(s). You only embrace the god of Israel because your fathers were been told to abandon their gods, that they are false and evil gods and worhsip yahweh. Gods and religions were being exported as much as cultures so its no different from we wearing suit and tie today and call it coperate. Las las god na invention of men, ie men creared god and religion.

You local gods are typically known to hold in high favor their own, right? However, the God of Israel is different in that He is known to have delivered his people into the hands of their enemies, going as far as to curse and scatter them to all ends of the world, for their refusal to abide by the National Constitution which He had given to them as a people and a Nation. While local gods typically keep it in the family, and rival gods are usually to blame when an enemy invades or war breaks out, the God of Israel did not hesitate to annihilate and even see destroyed His Israel many times over at the hands of Israel's enemies for Israel's disobedience of Him - No rival gods ever in the picture.

MaDaRa01:

why will God hate a child he created right from womb?

It means that child was evil even from the womb

"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies" Psalm 58:3

Kobojunkie:
Yet the one man that questioned God was rewarded by God even after?

Abeg, Stop pretending it is your place to speak on behalf of God. i.e. defend God with what are lies. Let God speak for Himself.

We all see that Job did not really question God for it was his pain that made him cry out, especially knowing that evil does not fall on right doing people. Therefore it is reasonable and natural to ask questions under this condition, especially as it has never happened before.

Wilgrea7:

One thing you need to realize, is not the God of the bible decided to choose Israel and discard the rest.

Rather, the Israelites at the time believed in the concept of a God that favored them as it's chosen people. But it wasn't just unique to them...

Go and read it again, right from Egypt, even with Moses, they did not want God like you and they always resisted, challenged, discarded and disobeyed Him all the way, till the world ends.

Dtruthspeaker:


I was the first to say it was A Plan since 2019 and I told it to kobojunkie.who back then used to snake according to his whims from pro-God to Anti-God. Very unstable then. But now he has perfected the act of being stable in Pro-Anti-God, even using what I was also the first here to lay, that Christ Teachings shows The Way. And it is amazing how he could still corrupt this Pure and Sweet Teaching which is why I knew he was jw. To corrupt a thing is the jw way

I even remember I told it to you also back when you where Madximus69 before you did suicide to that Monika and rebirth with this Monika.

So, I figured out The Plan, even before I joined Nairaland and back then, none of you knew that.

OK nah!

Dtruthspeaker:


Go and read it again, right from Egypt, even with Moses, they did not want God like you and they always resisted, challenged, discarded and disobeyed Him all the way, till the world ends.

Absolutely nothing in this response related to what I said.

If it were to be another person, you'll be screaming “change of post"

This isn't about whether someone disobeyed God. It's about why the God of the bible, seems to identify Israel as his chosen people, and identifies himself as the God of Israel

And judging by what you've written here, you are the one who clearly didn't read my response

Dtruthspeaker:


Clearly, the records show that Isreal did not create God, they even resisted Him, disobeyed Him and even worked against His Plans.

So as usual, you are talking rubbish.

What records exactly are you talking about

famozine1:
Hello every one this question always bothers me alot even in the Bible 80% of it is based on Israel alone there is a chapter in the Bible the book of Ezekiel or so where God punish Jerusalem because of there sins there are some near by countries who is happy because of there downfall the punishment they receive is even more than what Jerusalem itself is going through am not saying God Is the God of Israel only but sometimes you might be love Or hate by your parents based on what you do God truly love israel what are the things they do that make God love them so so so much thanks

When you realise that Yahweh as depicted in the Christian and Jewish religious texts has origins as a tribal war god then all the stories begin to make sense. Archaeological records show that Yahweh was a god in the Canaanite pantheon of gods and only became exclusively worshipped after religious reformations some years before Babylonian captivity. Even the Jewish text as we know it now took form after the return from Babylonian captivity. What was in evidence is Yahweh and other gods were worshipped together.