I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2 boys.
My uncle warned my dad not yo try it.
I even remember going to orphanage with him to see how it goes.
For some reason he didn't adopt again.

Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

Till today im forever grateful to my uncle for preventing my dad from adoption.
Because all the families I know that adopted kids back in the 2000. None of them have peace, they always fighting, quarreling
It's a huge mess.
This is why i think Adoption is not worth it at all

Adoption is like suicide.
You don't know what you are putting your hand in
Because 90% of kids in orphanage homes
Have no history or records of their father and mother
Do you know if the mother was a Mad woman?
Now you adopt a child who has genetics of a Mad woman.
When the boy grows up and start acting like his mother what are you gonna do??

Basically, you dont know anything about the history of the child you are adopting .
While there are some who turn out great.
Majority of adopted kids turn out to be a huge mistake

Edit:
A lot of emotional children will attack me
Without seeing the hard bitter truth
This reminds me of when in 2014 i advise lots of youths not to vote Buhari
But they were so emotional and attacked me
Now it's 2022 and they are crying and wailing

When you tell people hard truth they will attack and call you names.
The did it to Jesus
So if you emotional kids can't handle this bitter truth then that's your business.
If you like go and adopt unknown gunman pikin then when he start exhibiting the genes and behaviour of his bandit father.
You will start crying and wailing as usual.

A russian man love a child unconditionally
Adopted him and took great care of him
But the boy still later killed the man.
Stole his properties and flees to Turkey

So will you blame the Man that adopted him for not showing the boy love

Nuture a kid when he is small
His true nature will come out once he grows up.

JackDaAlienz:
I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2 boys.
My uncle warned my dad not yo try it.
I even remember going to orphanage with him to see how it goes.
For some reason he didn't adopt again.

Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

Till today im forever grateful to my uncle for preventing my dad from adoption.
Because all the families I know that adopted kids back in the 2000. None of them have peace, they always fighting, quarreling
It's a huge mess.
This is why i think Adoption is not worth it at all

Atleast they are not into Gayism like u

And before I forget, your points are not valid,, it's like U talk too much,, U wrote alot of things but ended up saying nothing

Adoption is not the cause but how they were raised..
A baby you adopted or a toddler you adopted doesn't know anything.. Blame it on your father's friend..

For your information, kids who were raised in strict Christian homes still end up as Yahoo boys, drug abusers, cultists, prostitutes...etc. It's all about your parenting skills.

One of the major reason why most adopted kids turn out bad is due to segregation.

They're always constantly being reminded that they're adopted, extended family uncles and aunts wouldn't fully accept them, cousins of their age bracket would be cold towards them (no thanks to their parents who told them that they are adopted and they have no root cos they can't trace them to any family), so in a bid to prove a point most of them seek solace in the wrong company...hence they end up becoming a nuisance themselves, their surrogate family, their environment and the country.

The rule of the thumb is if you must adopt, you and your wife must keep it as a secret...anyone outside both of you mustn't be aware, cos if that child grows up knowing he's adopted, it might affect his mental health because he won't feel secure around you and would constantly be longing for his biological parents.

Sheistoopretty:



Atleast they are not into Gayism like u

And before I forget, your points are not valid,, it's like U talk too much,, U wrote alot of things but ended up saying nothing

My dear,
I'M NOT GAY AND NEVER WILL BE GAY

people called Jesus worse names and they even mocked him as "King OF jews"
Because Jesus said the Truth

We all know that people don't like to hear the bitter truth, they begin to call you names,insult you and ridicule you for saying the Truth.

You can call me gay
You can call me a bastard
It won't change the hard bitter truth.

Nobody in history of mankind has spoken the Truth and people applaud him.

Moses in the bible was adopted by Egyptians
They raise him like Prince.
Feed him daily, cloth him, care for him

Only for Moses to grow up and join the isrealites and destroy the same Egypt that raised him.
Blood is thicker than water
If you like go and adopt anoda person blood
Anything wey you see, take am like that

Divay22:
Adoption is not the cause but how they were raised..
A baby you adopted or a toddler you adopted doesn't know anything.. Blame it on your father's friend..

My father's friend loved those 2 boys with all his heart.
Because his wife couldn't birth a boy for him.
He cherished them and pampered them
Bit look at how they treat him 20 years later.

Man had partial stroke after one of them beat him up for asking him where he is coming back from late at night.

Its not by raising them with perfect love
They will exhibit their ORIGINAL parents behavior
What if their father was a Hardcore killer who raped and pregnanted a Mad woman
Mad woman give birth and they put the baby in orphanage.

That baby has the genetics of his ruthless killer father. No matter how much love you show him that baby will still exhibit his original parents behaviour because he has his genes

JackDaAlienz:

A snake will always be a snake
If you like feed it everyday and buy gifts for the snake for 40 years non stop
The snake will still bite you because
Blood is thicker than water
Genetics is stronger than everything..

If you adopt a child born by a Mad woman and dumped in orphanage.
If you like raise them in U.K or U.S.A
Take them to Harvard or Cambridge
He still has the genes of his mad mother
Madness is hereditary and transferred from mother to child
And when the madness start affect him
There is nothing u can do

Plenty talk..

Divay22:

Plenty talk..

how can a fish brain understand all the grammar I wrote.
It's like explaining photosynthesis to a 2 yrs old
They will never understand.
Until your brain develop then I can reply u.
Bye

nature vs nurture

Which is more potent?

The eternal argument

you are about to get lots of adopted kids here on nairaland very angry with this your post.

AfroKnight:
nature vs nurture

Which is more potent?

The eternal argument

I feel no amount of nuture can change your true nature.
If your father is tall his kids inherit tall genes
If you father had hot temper issues and you inherit it. No amount of love can change it.
That is why genetics is stronger

Nazgul:
For your information, kids who were raised in strict Christian homes still end up as Yahoo boys, drug abusers, cultists, prostitutes...etc. It's all about your parenting skills.

One of the major reason why most adopted kids turn out bad is due to segregation.

They're always constantly being reminded that they're adopted, extended family uncles and aunts wouldn't fully accept them, cousins of their age bracket would be cold towards them (no thanks to their parents who told them that they are adopted and they have no root cos they can't trace them to any family), so in a bid to prove a point most of them seek solace in the wrong company...hence they end up becoming a nuisance themselves, their surrogate family, their environment and the country.

The rule of the thumb is if you must adopt, you and your wife must keep it as a secret...anyone outside both of you mustn't be aware, cos if that child grows up knowing he's adopted, it might affect his mental health because he won't feel secure around you and would constantly be longing for his biological parents.

The man that I know and saw for 20 years caring and loving his 2 adopted boys unconditionally.
Bought and spent a lot on them
Yet they decided to torment him and leave him with partial stroke.

Now go and tell that man that the reason why the 2 boys are rascals is because he didn't show them love.
You see how stupid you will look saying that?

If you like pet a snake from now till tomorrow
It will still bite you.

JackDaAlienz:

My father's friend loved those 2 boys with all his heart.
Because his wife couldn't birth a boy for him.
He cherished them and pampered them
Bit look at how they treat him 20 years later.

Man had partial stroke after one of them beat him up for asking him where he is coming back from late at night.

Its not by raising them with perfect love
They will exhibit their parents behavior
What if their father was a Hardcore killer who raped and pregnanted a Mad woman
Mad woman give birth and they put the baby in orphanage.

That baby has the genetics of his ruthless killer father. No matter how much love you show him that baby will still exhibit his original parents behaviour because he has his genes

You have some strong points but I don't think it applies in all situation

JackDaAlienz:
I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2

How can you say adoption is not worth it BASED ON ONE EXAMPLE??!!
So many very successful people and celebrities were adopted as a baby, and even some had a mentally ill biological parent (like Monroe). See below

PoliteActivist:


How can you say adoption is not worth it BASED ON ONE EXAMPLE??!!
So many very successful people and celebrities were adopted as a baby, and even some had a mentally ill biological parent (like Monroe). See below

Majority of the names you listed where kids raised without their fathers but by their mothers or aunt. Or extended family
which means they were raised by their blood relatives
Compared to those who are raised by totally different familes
For 1 successful adopted kid
There are 1000 more that are not successful

JackDaAlienz:

The man that I know and saw for 20 years caring and loving his 2 adopted boys unconditionally.
Bought and spent a lot on them
Yet they decided to torment him and leave him with partial stroke.

Now go and tell that man that the reason why the 2 boys are rascals is because he didn't show them love.
You see how stupid you will look saying that?

If you like pet a snake from now till tomorrow
It will still bite you.

This is not true at all. There is a difference between showing kids love and spoiling them. It is quite easy to "show kids love". It is much harder to instill discipline in them (though it breaks your heart because you love them). They'd hate you for it at the moment, but when they grow they'd appreciate you for it

JackDaAlienz:

Majority of the names you listed where kids raised without their fathers but by their mothers or aunt. Or extended family
which means they were raised by their blood relatives
Compared to those who are raised by totally different familes
For 1 successful adopted kid
There are 1000 more that are not successful

You pull these numbers from thin air. This is not true AT ALL.
Not a single serial killer was adopted. Google it. The worst criminals and gangsters were never adopted, including the worst of the worst in Nigeria!

PoliteActivist:


You pull these numbers from thin air. This is not true AT ALL.
Not a single serial killer was adopted. Google it. The worst criminals and gangsters were never adopted, including the worst of the worst in Nigeria!

And you counted all the serial killers in the world to conclude none of them were adopted?
You also counted all the serial killers in Nigeria abi
What of the serial killers that nobody knows about. The serial killers that have not been caught. Did you count them too

PoliteActivist:


This is not true at all. There is a difference between showing kids love and spoiling them. It is quite easy to "show kids love". It is much harder to instill discipline in them (though it breaks your heart because you love them). They'd hate you for it at the moment, but when they grow they'd appreciate you for it

You are still a kid, until you have your own kids you will understand that it takes.
If you take an orphan, feed them, cloth them and care for them for life.
Which type of love is bigger than that
They are not your biological kids but you sacrifice and hurstle everyday to provide for them.
I ask again, which kind love is bigger than that??
This is what that man did for his 2 adopted boys yet they still torment him.

Do you know if the original parents of those those boys are rascal?
A lion doesn't gove birth to an elephant
A lion gives birth to A LION

So if you like treat the lion like a human
If you like dont spoil the lion
If you like discipline the lion
give it cloth. Give it shoes give it car
That lion will always be a wild animal

I know a nurse who her adopted son is in Malaysia doing yahoo. He fights and beats her before he travelled.
He didn't even tell his mother he was travelling

JackDaAlienz:



Man had partial stroke after one of them beat him up for asking him where he is coming back from late at night.

Wotoporiously speaking

Anybody wey adopt male kids in the era of 2000, na 2pac Shakur Jnr you dey adopt so

R.I.P to the legend himself

JackDaAlienz:

how can a fish brain understand all the grammar I wrote.
It's like explaining photosynthesis to a 2 yrs old
They will never understand.
Until your brain develop then I can reply u.
Bye

You're so childish.

Divay22:

You're so childish.

That is what my girl says whenever she start losing argument..
When you have nothing intelligent to say
You begin to call people childish
I have dealt with many girls like you
Once they start losing argument they start calling you childish lmao
Una format don cast since

JackDaAlienz:
Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

Till today im forever grateful to my uncle for preventing my dad from adoption.
Because all the families I know that adopted kids back in the 2000. None of them have peace, they always fighting, quarreling
It's a huge mess.
This is why i think Adoption is not worth it at all

If we are to follow your line of reasoning , shouldn't we also conclude that since there are those whose sons also end up yahoo boys and drugs dealers/addicts later on in life, it also isn't worth it having children at all?

The way some of you still dey reason right in this information age wey we don day at least 20 years dey make person wonder if hope dey at all.

My aunt has an adopted son of 4 years old. From what I’ve seen so far, that boy will be a pain in the a$$ for my aunt in the future. The boy has already started exhibiting some character of whoever his parents are, coupled with the fact that my aunt is very bad in parenting. I pity the boy; better he had been left with his rightful parents. He won’t have any family member to associate with because it’s glaring he’s adopted and my aunt has a bad record with almost everyone in the family.

JackDaAlienz:

A snake will always be a snake
If you like feed it everyday and buy gifts for the snake for 40 years non stop
The snake will still bite you because
Blood is thicker than water
Genetics is stronger than everything..

If you adopt a child born by a Mad woman and dumped in orphanage.
If you like raise them in U.K or U.S.A
Take them to Harvard or Cambridge
He still has the genes of his mad mother
Madness is hereditary and transferred from mother to child
And when the madness start affect him
There is nothing u can do

Stop this nonsense you are spitting.

A child that will turns out bad will be bad. irrespective of who his/her biological parents are. And know the OP of this topic is not talking about genetic disorders but social vices which most young people engages in these days. May God guide them right and repent in time before it is too late. Raising a child is very complicated whether yours or otherwise. We have seen various religious clerics children gone bad so many times. For your information, many folks were adopted and they turns out to be a responsible member of the society. Joke Silver is an example.

JackDaAlienz:
I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2 boys.
My uncle warned my dad not yo try it.
I even remember going to orphanage with him to see how it goes.
For some reason he didn't adopt again.

Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

Till today im forever grateful to my uncle for preventing my dad from adoption.
Because all the families I know that adopted kids back in the 2000. None of them have peace, they always fighting, quarreling
It's a huge mess.
This is why i think Adoption is not worth it at all

You are right OP. I know a family tha adopted a boy back then. The boy is now a gay.
They were warned that adoption nis never a good thing . Now they have brought curse into there family. The young man may end of influencing other male folks in the lineage to become gay like him. You see why adoption is not good.

Ewo I forgot you are a gay too. Sorry ooo
I am out of here . Gay initiated thread is disgusting.
Smelling like mouth that have been used to suck anus

JackDaAlienz:

A snake will always be a snake
If you like feed it everyday and buy gifts for the snake for 40 years non stop
The snake will still bite you because
Blood is thicker than water
Genetics is stronger than everything..

If you adopt a child born by a Mad woman and dumped in orphanage.
If you like raise them in U.K or U.S.A
Take them to Harvard or Cambridge
He still has the genes of his mad mother
Madness is hereditary and transferred from mother to child
And when the madness start affect him
There is nothing u can do

shut up and stop saying wat u don't know

FeliciaOja:

I feel no amount of nuture can change your true nature.
If your father is tall his kids inherit tall genes
If you father had hot temper issues and you inherit it. No amount of love can change it.
That is why genetics is stronger

That a person has a genetic predisposition to a trait doesn't mean that, that trait will ALWAYS find expression ...

Lemme give you an example...
Are you aware that diabetic can also be caused by genetics? That is to say, there is a genetic predisposition to diabetes....

However, not everyone who has this genetic predisposition to diabetes end up having diabetes, you know why?

That's because once they discover that they have a genetic predisposition to diabetes (usually from family history), they take measures to put it at Bay and as such, they can live their lives without ever having diabetes even though they have a genetic predisposition to it...

So NO genetics isn't always "stronger" and sometimes "nurture" can triumph nature ...

Secondly...
What the OP described above are social vices: Yahoo, cultism, etc...
And the last time I checked, social vices aren't genetical.... That is, there is no "cultistic genes" or "yoohic genes" in man ...

So how those kids turned out to be, is Majorly environmental, ie, how they were raised ...

JackDaAlienz:

You are still a kid, until you have your own kids you will understand that it takes.
If you take an orphan, feed them, cloth them and care for them for life.
Which type of love is bigger than that
They are not your biological kids but you sacrifice and hurstle everyday to provide for them.
I ask again, which kind love is bigger than that??
This is what that man did for his 2 adopted boys yet they still torment him.

Do you know if the original parents of those those boys are rascal?
A lion doesn't gove birth to an elephant
A lion gives birth to A LION

So if you like treat the lion like a human
If you like dont spoil the lion
If you like discipline the lion
give it cloth. Give it shoes give it car
That lion will always be a wild animal

I know a nurse who her adopted son is in Malaysia doing yahoo. He fights and beats her before he travelled.
He didn't even tell his mother he was travelling

You keep saying the bolded without thought and without looking around you.
How many countless times have children of the same parents turned out polar opposites. In many cases parents spoil one child for whatever reason (maybe only son out of many girls, or last born) and they grow up wayward, while their siblings become very upright pillars of society!

Also, consider what sort of lives some of these kids would have had without adoption!

Also consider it often turns out as the story below

Fahvvy, very good reply to FeliciaOja. Very well-said and very erudite!

The deliquencies exhibited by these kids have little to do with being adopted. It's more of poor upbringing and peer pressure. Even well-trained biological kids are falling short so...?
You are just being overzealous here. If you had raised points on medical issues, that would have been more rational. Even at that, nothing is guaranteed even with your own biological children.

If you are an orphan, or you lost one parent at an early age or you were greatly sponspored by a relative, you might appreciate adoption better.

I intend to adopt atleast 2 kids later in life, if I'm comfortable enough to cater for them. To give them a good life they may never had. My own way of contributing to humanity and as an extension of love towards children.