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Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 3:22pm On Oct 02, 2022
Evilblackman:

I don’t know at all
But how did you know about it??
Did you studied heavenly engineering?

Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.

We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do we say about the heavenly bodies? What do we say about God's creator?

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Re: Who Created God ? by Maynman: 3:25pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.

We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do we say about the heavenly bodies? What do we say about God's creator?
Which heavenly bodies are you talking about?
And which of the Gods is moving it?

Re: Who Created God ? by Evilblackman(m): 3:43pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.

We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do we say about the heavenly bodies? What do we say about God's creator?

“If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.”

This were you got it wrong there’s always an energy moving it but you didn’t study it in school ... sadly Nigerian education is poor

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Re: Who Created God ? by imiski(m): 3:52pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.

We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do w
exactly since we don't know that force that gave God force, we can't dismiss the creator of the creator.

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Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 3:54pm On Oct 02, 2022
Evilblackman:


“If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.”

This were you got it wrong there’s always an energy moving it but you didn’t study it in school ... sadly Nigerian education is poor

Tell us the energy moving it. What is its name?
Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 3:55pm On Oct 02, 2022
Maynman:

Which heavenly bodies are you talking about?
And which of the Gods is moving it?

No one said God is moving anything. Go back and read.
Re: Who Created God ? by Evilblackman(m): 4:06pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Tell us the energy moving it. What is its name?

Ever heard of kinetic energy
Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 4:10pm On Oct 02, 2022
imiski:
exactly since we don't know that force that gave God force, we can't dismiss the creator of the creator.

Yes, since we don't know the force that gave the heavenly bodies their movement, we cannot dismiss the force that created the force. For instance, science says that gravity is created by energy momentum density, which is related to mass and its motion. That's clear.

Now, what force is moving the heavenly bodies? What is the source or the creator of that force?

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Re: Who Created God ? by ThankGodFriday(m): 4:11pm On Oct 02, 2022

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Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 4:13pm On Oct 02, 2022
Evilblackman:


Ever heard of kinetic energy

Kinetic energy does not move bodies. A body gains kinetic energy by virtue of its movement. Kinetic energy is the outcome of motion, not the cause.

Since we don't know the force that gave the heavenly bodies their movement, we cannot dismiss the force that created the force. For instance, science says that gravity is created by energy momentum density, which is related to mass and its motion. That's clear.

Now, what force is moving the heavenly bodies? What is the source or the creator of that force?
Re: Who Created God ? by Maynman: 4:13pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


No one said God is moving anything. Go back and read.
Which heavenly bodies is moving?
Re: Who Created God ? by FxMasterz: 4:20pm On Oct 02, 2022
Maynman:

Which heavenly bodies is moving?

The planets and the entire heavenly bodies in space. Most of them make calculative moves such that you calculate where they would be the next moment.

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Re: Who Created God ? by Maynman: 4:22pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


The planets and the entire heavenly bodies in space. Most of them make calculative moves such that you calculate where they would be the next moment.

The gravity of the Sun keeps the planets in their orbits.

Re: Who Created God ? by imiski(m): 4:25pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Yes, since we don't know the force that gave the heavenly bodies their movement, we cannot dismiss the force that created the force. For instance, science says that gravity is created by energy momentum density, which is related to mass and its motion. That's clear.

Now, what force is moving the heavenly bodies? What is the source or the creator of that force?
If I get your analogy right, you're trying to prove that since we don't know the force that moves the universe, then a being can come to existence without a creator. Since the universe has a program/push/force/energy. Then the creator can't have all that power without a source of energy/push/force on its own accord. Since we all first agreed that: nothing can move on its accord, without something driving it.

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Re: Who Created God ? by Evilblackman(m): 5:46pm On Oct 02, 2022
FxMasterz:


Kinetic energy does not move bodies. A body gains kinetic energy by virtue of its movement. Kinetic energy is the outcome of motion, not the cause.

Since we don't know the force that gave the heavenly bodies their movement, we cannot dismiss the force that created the force. For instance, science says that gravity is created by energy momentum density, which is related to mass and its motion. That's clear.

Now, what force is moving the heavenly bodies? What is the source or the creator of that force?

And the circle continues
Re: Who Created God ? by RichieDemorest: 3:21pm On Nov 26, 2022

Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:21pm On Nov 26, 2022
Evilblackman:
I was on the internet doing my research about [/b]why God can’t show himself[b]

And i came across this question and article
[/b]Who created God ? [b]

We ask, "If all things have a creator, then who created God?" Actually, only created things have a creator, so it's improper to lump God with his creation. God has revealed himself to us in the Bible as having always existed. Atheists counter that there is no reason to assume the universe was created.


, although I’ve been thinking about this same question , when i ask I don’t get any answers back.

Humans created god
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:24pm On Nov 26, 2022
Evilblackman:


I feel only science can come close to the discovery
If we humans can create time machine
What do you mean by time machine?
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:25pm On Nov 26, 2022
FxMasterz:


Now, the heavenly bodies are constantly moving. Do you know the force moving them?
Yes we know, it’s called dark Energy and gravity.
How does that explain the existence of god?
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:31pm On Nov 26, 2022
FxMasterz:


Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:
we know what moves the “heavenly” bodies, Dark Energy are responsible for the expansion of the universe while gravity are responsible for movement of planets, starts and other bodies via orbiting.

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.
fallacy if appealing to ignorance

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.[quote] god doesn’t exist because they move with a force which is called gravity and dark energy?

[quote]We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do we say about the heavenly bodies? What do we say about God's creator?
fallacy of appealing to ignorance again.

Please check up for the meaning of that fallacy on google and try to correct yourself before replying me
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:32pm On Nov 26, 2022
imiski:
exactly since we don't know that force that gave God force, we can't dismiss the creator of the creator.
we know the force.
That guy didn’t attend a proper school.
Re: Who Created God ? by imiski(m): 4:45pm On Nov 26, 2022
Workch:
we know the force. That guy didn’t attend a proper school.
lol...whats the force
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 4:49pm On Nov 26, 2022
imiski:
lol...whats the force
1. Gravity; responsible for keeping bodies in orbital motion. It happens when two bodies attract each other and misses. Read up on that
Gravity is responsible for moving of planets, colliding stars, Binary stars, moons, asteroids and even affects movement of galaxies. Basically, any two objects in space will move in relation to the gravity they exact on each other

Gravity is why we can put object in earth’s orbit and make them move. Without gravity, it won’t be possible

2. Dark energy, dark energy is the reason that the universe Is expanding and galaxies are moving farther away from each other. Read more about it.
Dark energy is the reason why the universe is expanding faster than the Speed of light
Re: Who Created God ? by imiski(m): 5:06pm On Nov 26, 2022
Workch:

1. Gravity; responsible for keeping bodies in orbital motion. It happens when two bodies attract each other and misses. Read up on that
Gravity is responsible for moving of planets, colliding stars, Binary stars, moons, asteroids and even affects movement of galaxies. Basically, any two objects in space will move in relation to the gravity they exact on each other

Gravity is why we can put object in earth’s orbit and make them move. Without gravity, it won’t be possible

2. Dark energy, dark energy is the reason that the universe Is expanding and galaxies are moving farther away from each other. Read more about it.
Dark energy is the reason why the universe is expanding faster than the Speed of light
I didn't know about this before I'll go and read it up. That nigger just disappear.
Re: Who Created God ? by Workch: 5:12pm On Nov 26, 2022
imiski:
I didn't know about this before I'll go and read it up. That nigger just disappear.
Yeah, google it. It’s all there for you to study

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