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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
Theflint1:
Of course, mobilization money was released, but possible it wasn't from Tinubu directly, could have been one or a couple of his goons coming together to organize this. This is at least a 3K march, 10K per head will get you that number and even more sef. The market women that came out for Tinubu, all they need do is close the market for the day, promise each person 10K, free shirt and transport to and fro covered and you have them available. Also, there are APC women members in Lagos as part of those numbers, and mobilization is also done from out of state. At least 50m go don drop for this movement you dey see, even one of Tinubu guys go chest am, that's the structure, that's what structure does.

Did you even stop to think how they can share 10k each for 3,000 persons?

How long and hectic the process would be

I like your imaginations sha

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 7:58pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


Did you even stop to think how they can share 10k each for 3,000 persons?

How long and hectic the process would be

I like your imaginations sha
Lol, na person wey neva dey involved in these kin things go dey question how 10K can be shared for 3K persons. Maybe you reason 3K persons go line up in front of one person dey collect 10K each abi? cheesy

There's probably like up to 30-50 persons in charge of mobilization, and these are the persons that will be in charge of paying the money. This is some pretty organized stuff, my guy dey run this mobilization parole for university then, and there have been times we went out of state unto mobilization so I kinda have an idea or two on this.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 8:01pm On Oct 03, 2022
Mobilization money is now a crime??

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:02pm On Oct 03, 2022
Back then, dem go don provide up to 10 buses take mobilize students from school, some persons go even lap sef, others dey beg make dem follow the bus go cheesy

All you needed do was make sure you knew the person in charge of your group and keep him visible at all times. In fact some persons that were mobilized go hustle their way into being money sharers and they go with twice what the people that were mobilized were supposed to get.
Theflint1:
Lol, na person wey neva dey involved in these kin things go dey question how 10K can be shared for 3K persons. Maybe you reason 3K persons go line up in front of one person dey collect 10K each abi? cheesy

There's probably like up to 30-50 persons in charge of mobilization, and these are the persons that will be in charge of paying the money. This is some pretty organized stuff, my guy dey run this mobilization parole for university then, and there have been times we went out of state unto mobilization so I kinda have an idea or two on this.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 8:04pm On Oct 03, 2022
raumdeuter:


The concoction no complete, He didnt use his blockus to do jazz segedinho ebukacute
when i saw d post...i just know i must definitely get a mention from you..


las las ..u no disappoint
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 8:05pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


So where did you see APC Leadership involved in this?

There is nothing wrong with mobilization. They organized a rally and they attended it.


A rally that had the aspirants daughter in it?? A rally that had celebrities sponsored by the party and you're still asking me about the leadership of APC in today's rally?

And secondly, yes both are mobilization, but we're pointing to the difference in both movements.

In the establishment rallies, you have people who are paid to come or induced by monetary or material gains, or in some cases as we can see, mentally coerced to come, and then our looted state funds is used to sponsor these rallies, while in the other, you have ordinary people coming together to use their own resources to "mobilize" themselves and show support for their candidate, even without the candidates knowledge or party knowledge.

I'm simply highlighting how this is totally a people oriented movement.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 8:06pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


Did you even stop to think how they can share 10k each for 3,000 persons?

How long and hectic the process would be

I like your imaginations sha

Hectic?

Hectic ke?

What's hectic in sharing money to 3000 people?

How did NYSC share bicycle and transport allowance in NYSC camp?

How do they share state bursary cash to university students?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:09pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


So where did you see APC Leadership involved in this?

See how you took your time to explain the same MOBILIZATION you are accusing another person of.

There is nothing wrong with mobilization. They organized a rally and they attended it.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:09pm On Oct 03, 2022
wman:


Hectic?

Hectic ke?

What's hectic in sharing money to 3000 people?

How did NYSC share bicycle and transport allowance in NYSC camp?

How do they share state bursary cash to university students?

Were you 3,000 in your NYSC camp?

3,000 people

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:12pm On Oct 03, 2022
Donjazet2:



A rally that had the aspirants daughter in it?? A rally that had celebrities sponsored by the party and you're still asking me about the leadership of APC in today's rally?

And secondly, yes both are mobilization, but we're pointing to the difference in both movements.

In the establishment rallies, you have people who are paid to come or induced by monetary or material gains, or in some cases as we can see, mentally coerced to come, and then our looted state funds is used to sponsor these rallies, while in the other, you have ordinary people coming together to use their own resources to "mobilize" themselves and show support for their candidate, even without the candidates knowledge or party knowledge.

I'm simply highlighting how this is totally a people oriented movement.

So aspirant's daughter should have attended your rally?

That rally doesn't need to induce people to go.

And yes mobilization money is needed. Even churches use money to do rallies.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:13pm On Oct 03, 2022
Theflint1:
Lol, na person wey neva dey involved in these kin things go dey question how 10K can be shared for 3K persons. Maybe you reason 3K persons go line up in front of one person dey collect 10K each abi? cheesy

There's probably like up to 30-50 persons in charge of mobilization, and these are the persons that will be in charge of paying the money. This is some pretty organized stuff, my guy dey run this mobilization parole for university then, and there have been times we went out of state unto mobilization so I kinda have an idea or two on this.

If you were privileged to see a video of the rally, you'll definitely see the video of the sharing session.

Stop assuming what is not there

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:15pm On Oct 03, 2022
grin

Anything Peter does is legit, but turns a crime once Paul does same.

2 legs good but 4 legs are bad for real..... as far as Obidindinrin are concerned.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:24pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


If you were privileged to see a video of the rally, you'll definitely see the video of the sharing session.

Stop assuming what is not there
Lol
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 8:25pm On Oct 03, 2022
Labour Party is currently extorting Okwute’s miscreants on Twitter with their GoFundMe almajiri programs, stealing from poor masses who’s only crime was supporting their party.

No one is saying anything about the extortion from gullible Okwute’s miscreants, but Tinubu sponsoring his campaign and running mobilization all of a sudden, became a crime to those who justified LP stealing and extorting the poor masses.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 8:45pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


Did you even stop to think how they can share 10k each for 3,000 persons?

How long and hectic the process would be

I like your imaginations sha
This was how it was done as at d time i was involved.

you are given some calculated amount of money to raise a given number within ur municipal.

at d converging point...you write down names of people you meet there....and most of dem already know your assignment and would draw your attention...

a time is set 4 disbursment and most time it is done when you guy are done.......either another meeting date is fixed(seldomly) or immediately you guys gets home to avoid story that touch........

This same thing is done in all d zones/ wards.......

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ToyinDipo(m): 8:54pm On Oct 03, 2022

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:07pm On Oct 03, 2022
grin


"Inorganic paid urchins, BATstard...."

- Don J


Eiye si wa la po, e lo fara ba le, tori e o ti ri nkan nkan.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ebukacute(m): 9:31pm On Oct 03, 2022
raumdeuter:


The concoction no complete, He didnt use his blockus to do jazz segedinho ebukacute
grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 9:37pm On Oct 03, 2022
izzou:


Were you 3,000 in your NYSC camp?

3,000 people

10 platoons.

About 200 people per platoon.

That's 2000 people.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 9:40pm On Oct 03, 2022
I have a small advice for the Obi movement. I presume your camp is made up of very smart, urbane and modern individuals. Why can't the brilliant experts amongst you come up with alternative ideas, plans and manifestos for free and give to your candidate which he will use in his interviews and debates?

This will help to make him look like someone offering concrete solutions to Nigeria's problem. The Obidient movements projects itself as young and intelligent, well this is where you can put your money where your mouth is. Choose geniuses amongst yourselves to volunteer and provide concrete long term and short term solutions.

This in my opinion will stand you out for your candidate rather than engaging in online fights that will not translate to any real votes, but only strengthen the resolve of your opponents.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:41pm On Oct 03, 2022
REALITY

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:42pm On Oct 03, 2022
wman:


10 platoons.

About 200 people per platoon.

That's 2000 people.

Imagine an extra 1000.

No documentation.

Just share 10k to them. And tell me how easy it would be
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 9:58pm On Oct 03, 2022
An organization took a random survey in Molete, Ibadan to see who people will vote for in the upcoming elections.


Here are their reactions:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_utYiB7WU

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emmynator(m): 10:07pm On Oct 03, 2022
You hate him, so it's difficult to believe that others can love him for free.

Where has rally ever been done without mobilization of some sort, APC already has a define structure, so their rallies will definitely be more organized than the "structureless" rallies, if they bought shirts and caps, did they also force people to not only collect and wear it, but also march with them?
Winning elections is expensive, that's why LP is accepting donations. Apc is a bona-fide political party with 8 years plus of building political structure, they don't have to neglect using their structure to get things done, to prove a point to obidients, they built those structures for a reason.
Na this kind mentality dey make me comment on Obidients matter, later Don j go dey ask me if I truly Wan vote Obi grin
Last last, we will see if ballots will differentiate between organic and inorganic votes.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:17pm On Oct 03, 2022
OasisX:
REALITY

I am skeptical of some states he classified under APC especially in the North. The part I agree with is that
"APC and PDP have Reps and Senators who are having their elections on that day and will do anything to return" and make their principal win

In many places LP and NNPP don't even have candidates

That in quote is the structure. Who is the NNPP or LP candidate in Atisbo, or Kaiama or Vandekiya or Dukku or Donga LGA that will push and campaign for the party. I am sure PDP and APC already have ward leaders in all these places
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:38pm On Oct 03, 2022
Lol...so for entire North na only 3 states Atiku get inside pocket? cheesy
The analysis is fair in some states but that projection up North is unrealistic.
OasisX:
REALITY

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:05pm On Oct 03, 2022
Theflint1:
Lol...so for entire North na only 3 states Atiku get inside pocket? cheesy
The analysis is fair in some states but that projection up North is unrealistic.

Kebbi Niger Bauchi Jigawa are still swing states

And I think LP might snatch 2 SS states in addition to 5SE especially if Wike remains stubborn and unyielding
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:06pm On Oct 03, 2022
Lagos - APC 58%, LP 30%, PDP 12%
Edo - APC 15%, LP 60%, PDP 25%
Bayelsa - APC 10%, LP 30%, PDP 60%
Rivers - APC 12%, LP 60%, PDP 28%
Delta - APC 9%, LP 40%, PDP 41%
C/Rivers- APC 8%, LP 58%, PDP 34%
A/Ibom - APC 13%, LP 33%, PDP 54%
S/East - APC 9%, LP 71%, PDP 20%
Abuja - APC 25%, LP 35%, PDP 40%

Other North Central States, can't say precisely, but expect LP to get 25% in most, APC will win some, PDP will win some, don't see LP winning any.

I can't speak much on N/E and N/W states, but I expect Atiku to make a good showing in most. APC will do well too, but vote sharing go plenty. Other than Kano, don't see NNPP winning any other state, and it won't be by much. NNPP would get votes in other Northern states sha.

South West states other than Lagos, APC will get up to 60% on average, LP and PDP go get like 15% and 25% on average, respectively.

PDP will easily get 24/36.

OasisX:
REALITY

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:07pm On Oct 03, 2022
raumdeuter:


Kebbi Niger Bauchi Jigawa are still swing states

And I think LP might snatch 2 SS states in addition to 5SE especially if Wike remains stubborn and unyielding
I'm thinking it will be up to 3. Edo, C/Rivers and Rivers.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:22pm On Oct 03, 2022
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 11:24pm On Oct 03, 2022
Theflint1:
Lagos - APC 58%, LP 30%, PDP 12%
Edo - APC 15%, LP 60%, PDP 25%
Bayelsa - APC 10%, LP 30%, PDP 60%
Rivers - APC 12%, LP 60%, PDP 28%
Delta - APC 9%, LP 40%, PDP 41%
C/Rivers- APC 8%, LP 58%, PDP 34%
A/Ibom - APC 13%, LP 33%, PDP 54%
S/East - APC 9%, LP 71%, PDP 20%
Abuja - APC 25%, LP 35%, PDP 40%

Other North Central States, can't say precisely, but expect LP to get 25% in most, APC will win some, PDP will win some, don't see LP winning any.

I can't speak much on N/E and N/W states, but I expect Atiku to make a good showing in most. APC will do well too, but vote sharing go plenty. Other than Kano, don't see NNPP winning any other state, and it won't be by much. NNPP would get votes in other Northern states sha.

South West states other than Lagos, APC will get up to 60% on average, LP and PDP go get like 15% and 25% on average, respectively.

PDP will easily get 24/36.

Them dey call party, una dey call NNPP.

Lmao! Na secondary school PTA organization be that?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:29pm On Oct 03, 2022
Theflint1:
Lagos - APC 58%, LP 30%, PDP 12%
Edo - APC 15%, LP 60%, PDP 25%
Bayelsa - APC 10%, LP 30%, PDP 60%
Rivers - APC 12%, LP 60%, PDP 28%
Delta - APC 9%, LP 40%, PDP 41%
C/Rivers- APC 8%, LP 58%, PDP 34%
A/Ibom - APC 13%, LP 33%, PDP 54%
S/East - APC 9%, LP 71%, PDP 20%
Abuja - APC 25%, LP 35%, PDP 40%

Other North Central States, can't say precisely, but expect LP to get 25% in most, APC will win some, PDP will win some, don't see LP winning any.

I can't speak much on N/E and N/W states, but I expect Atiku to make a good showing in most. APC will do well too, but vote sharing go plenty. Other than Kano, don't see NNPP winning any other state, and it won't be by much. NNPP would get votes in other Northern states sha.

South West states other than Lagos, APC will get up to 60% on average, LP and PDP go get like 15% and 25% on average, respectively.

PDP will easily get 24/36.


I think most of this is reasonable within margin of error. So you have LP winning 8 states in total. I think 8 is reasonable if they get 10 that is a massive feat which means 5 in SS

NC I expect this

Kwara APC 70% PDP 25% LP 5%
Kogi APC 55% PDP 35% LP 5% NNPP 5%
Benue APC 35% PDP 35% LP 30%
Plateau APC 30% PDP 40% LP 30%
Niger APC 40% PDP 40% NNPP 10% LP 5%
Nasarawa APC 30% PDP 35% LP 25% NNP 10%

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